Go Back   WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > Adsense / PPC / SEO Discussion Forum
Register Blogs FAQ Social Groups CalendarHelp Desk

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-26-2011, 02:36 AM   #1
HyperActive Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 219
Thanks: 0
Thanked 20 Times in 16 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Default Latest From Panda - Backlinks Over Quality?

Over the last couple of weeks (since October 14th- allegedly Panda 2.5.2) i am sensing that Google is now giving backlinks the advantage over quality content, almost just like before the first Panda update in February.

Does anyone else feel this way and sense this change?
omrishabbat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 02:47 AM   #2
Active Warrior
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 32
Thanks: 13
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Latest From Panda - Backlinks Over Quality?

Quote:
Originally Posted by omrishabbat View Post
Over the last couple of weeks (since October 14th- allegedly Panda 2.5.2) i am sensing that Google is now giving backlinks the advantage over quality content, almost just like before the first Panda update in February.

Does anyone else feel this way and sense this change?
I've been doing the same ever since I started doing SEO last year, and I didn't feel anything from the Panda Update. I build links the same way, the same amount, etc. Why do you feel Google is giving backlinks more credit? Thanks.
huangyouyou117 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 03:16 AM   #3
HyperActive Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 219
Thanks: 0
Thanked 20 Times in 16 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Default Re: Latest From Panda - Backlinks Over Quality?

I have noticed that few quality sites i regularly visit, have fallen in rankings and more spammy sites have moved up ahead.

Additionally, my website which is 100% original and very high-quality also suffered from somewhat of a drop.
omrishabbat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 03:51 AM   #4
Warrior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Latest From Panda - Backlinks Over Quality?

Quote:
Originally Posted by omrishabbat View Post
I have noticed that few quality sites i regularly visit, have fallen in rankings and more spammy sites have moved up ahead.

Additionally, my website which is 100% original and very high-quality also suffered from somewhat of a drop.
Really? Maybe that's only a temporary thing. After all Google always put quality over backlinks.
orina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 02:03 PM   #5
Active Warrior
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 31
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Default Re: Latest From Panda - Backlinks Over Quality?

I have a similar feeling as you do. But I have not done enough tests to make this with certainty claimed.

tomaz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 02:08 PM   #6
Eleanor Ruse
War Room Member
 
bubbins1987's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Berkshire, UK
Posts: 302
Thanks: 49
Thanked 103 Times in 69 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to bubbins1987
Default Re: Latest From Panda - Backlinks Over Quality?

Google will always be looking for quality sites but they are, and have been for a long time, moving towards high quality content combined with high quality backlinks.

Google might be leaning towards giving an advantage to sites with high quality backlinks as well as high quality content. If this is the case (which it probably is) then sites that have average content might get a temporary boost if their backlinks are of high quality.

Just my thoughts.

Thanks
Eleanor

bubbins1987 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 02:12 PM   #7
Senior Warrior Member
 
mosthost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 1,189
Thanks: 104
Thanked 138 Times in 122 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Default Re: Latest From Panda - Backlinks Over Quality?

I've given up trying to figure out what Google wants. It's about what I want now

Cloud phone system - Built specifically for SoHo and IMs. Try it free for 30 days - Click here | ADD URL | IM Ninja
mosthost is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 02:13 PM   #8
HyperActive Warrior
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 231
Thanks: 5
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Default Re: Latest From Panda - Backlinks Over Quality?

Quote:
Originally Posted by omrishabbat View Post
Over the last couple of weeks (since October 14th- allegedly Panda 2.5.2) i am sensing that Google is now giving backlinks the advantage over quality content, almost just like before the first Panda update in February.

Does anyone else feel this way and sense this change?
It is a common known fact that Google puts more weight in backlinks that any other feature of SEO and rankings in search engines. As long as you don't do anything drasticly, Panda, dup content is just for those to talk about, while the rest jump up in the searches.

commoditytrainer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 02:43 PM   #9
RevSEO.com High PR Links
 
RevSEO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NYC
Posts: 853
Thanks: 26
Thanked 111 Times in 93 Posts
Default Re: Latest From Panda - Backlinks Over Quality?

Google's actually after a few things with the recent Panda update.

Here's what they are after:

Quality content - Google's admitted publicaly that they have a problem. HackerNews, a popular tech "forum", often has dialogue with Matt Cutts about how littered the search results are. Heck, they've even gone as far as creating a form that helped combat duplicate content for a while.

Crap spun content is on its way out as the bots and algorithms get smarter and smarter. Panda was created in an effort to do just that, combat low quality content.

Quality backlinks - Let's face it, with each new linkbuilding service often comes a new spam service. I hate it more than the next guy. But, there are more and more these types of services being released to the public daily. Profile links, blog comments, and other abused links once were a good indicator of backlinks. Now, not so much.

Taking it to the next level Google's doing all they can to de-index and remove the crap from the SERPs. Part of that are forum profiles from overly abused domains with huge databases of spammers. Why should Google index a forum profile that's just like the next 50,000 on the same domain? They shouldn't.

Google's has two real goals as a search engine, provide kick-butt results for the searchers, and make sure they refine the way they make money.

The trick is finding how to balance great content, high PageRank backlinks, and the value that the searcher is looking for.

No need to reinvent the wheel.

RevSEO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 04:15 PM   #10
HyperActive Warrior
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 293
Thanks: 1
Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts
Default Re: Latest From Panda - Backlinks Over Quality?

Why can't you have both? That way you can't go wrong? High quality content and lots of high quality backlinks?

jwmann2 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 08:14 PM   #11
Senior Warrior Member
 
Black Hat Cat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: , , .
Posts: 2,360
Thanks: 24
Thanked 668 Times in 363 Posts
Default Re: Latest From Panda - Backlinks Over Quality?

Quote:
Originally Posted by omrishabbat View Post
Over the last couple of weeks (since October 14th- allegedly Panda 2.5.2) i am sensing that Google is now giving backlinks the advantage over quality content, almost just like before the first Panda update in February.

Does anyone else feel this way and sense this change?
So, basically, they're doing what they've always done then, because content quality has never played much of a role in the ranking process.

Click here, and the bunny gets it.
Black Hat Cat is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2011, 11:34 PM   #12
Active Warrior
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 55
Thanks: 2
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Default Re: Latest From Panda - Backlinks Over Quality?

My impression is that they are doing alot more human reviewing now, and also trying to match search results better to "searcher intent".

eg
walmart.com is probably a good match for someone searching for "walmart"
cheap-blue-widgets.com may not be a good match for someone searching for "cheap blue widgets".
JettH is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > Adsense / PPC / SEO Discussion Forum

Tags
backlinks, latest, panda, quality

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:48 PM.