Settings in Wordpress

[outwest]

I want to post a separate page obviously for my main targeted kws

On each of these separate pages, I want to post 2 supporting articles, and then one main article about my target keyword

I am using clickbump theme (not sure if that makes any difference)

1. are there any procedures for "settings" in wordpress that I should be following, in order to accomplish this?

2. Any other recommended tips for this?

Thank you

btw I have lots of wordpress experience but almost none in Clickbump, and almost none in changing all the setup/settings

[milapetersburg]

Are you pointing out Juggernaut SEO? I think the way around to achieve what you want is to define autolinking for the article having your main keyword.. Say, article1 is supported by article2 and article3. Article1 has your main keyword. You could define an autolink to article1 like "article1 keyword" so other pages links back to it when it is mentioned. So, article2 and 3 should have the exact match "article1 keyword" so it links up automatically to article1, else nothing happens.

[outwest]

Originally Posted by milapetersburg

Are you pointing out Juggernaut SEO? I think the way around to achieve what you want is to define autolinking for the article having your main keyword.. Say, article1 is supported by article2 and article3. Article1 has your main keyword. You could define an autolink to article1 like "article1 keyword" so other pages links back to it when it is mentioned. So, article2 and 3 should have the exact match "article1 keyword" so it links up automatically to article1, else nothing happens.

It does not necessarily follow this Juggernaut pattern (really have not researched that method)

I just want to find out how to set up the settings so that

Lets say I have 4 main kws I want to target

those will each be on separate PAGES
on each of those THOSE pages, will be three articles,
2 supporting articles
1 main article about the main kw

how is that accomplished in settings

[outwest]

wow so hard to get an answer on this

is this a boring topic?
or just nobody knows the answer?
strange

[Barry Unruh]

What you are describing is not possible as far as I am aware.

A page is the equivalent of a single post or web page. You could write "stories" one after another, but they will all be on one webpage and not have any individual attributes.

I would recommend you write the individual pages for your target keywords and then do all your supporting posts as standard posts linking back to the pages they support.

In other words, your 8 supporting posts would all be in the posts section of Wordpress, and the 4 keyword pages would be on static pages.

[yukon]

OP,

What your asking about is called a "Virtual Silo", the silo is controlled by internal linking.

This is an old school way of siloing a site, which is still just as powerful today as it ever was in the SERPs.

Siloing is also very practical for human traffic on your sites, just like reading a book, the site structure mimics a TOC.

I suggest don't take any automated shortcuts with plugins etc..., you need to take the time & structure your site yourself.

When you start going automated internal linking the $hit will hit the fan & screw up the tightly themed silo, which defeats the whole idea of the silo to begin with.

You'll see guys selling products (Juggernaut, etc...) acting like it's today's NEW! SEO, skip the hype & build strong site structure that will still be powerful years from now in the SERPs & at the same time give the traffic what they want/need (tightly themed/linked pages).

A lot of folks think they can buy their way out of work that needs to be done up front (site structure) by buying today's seo gimmicks.

You need to understand site structure (silos) in order to build external linking to the proper internal pages. If your building links to a single page your wasting time If your trying to rank multiple pages/keywords.

I've been meaning to start a new thread, explaining how I structure my Wordpress silos, it's not complicated once you have a visual map/diagram built before you build the site.

[outwest]

Yukon thanks
I understand how SILO structure is structured

I just dont understand how to setup the settings for it

I assume these pages that each kw goes on is a page, and I know those must be setup in "page" setup in the settings which I know how to do

but how to piece all this together is a bit confusing
and
as you say
it should be done BEFORE
the site is begun, not after the fact so

I am sure once you do it a few times it becomes way more easy
thanks for at least attempting to answer
most people either dont know the answer or
the title of the post is uninspiring LOL

Actually
The way I thought Silo Structure would have worked
before
is to have each article on a separate page lets say there are 5 articles supporting a main article
and each of those articles would be on separate pages
those pages would all be linked back to the main page such as this

1)Classic Car Websites
2)Classic Car Discounts
3)Classic Car Parts
4)Classic Car Corvettes
5)Classic Car Painting services

The main article would be
Classic Cars ...thats on one page

The 1-5 topics would all have separate pages and be linked back to
Classic Cars with the anchor text "classic cars"

Classic Cars Page would link out to all the 1-5
Articles with the anchor text being the title of those articles (1-5)

Now I have been told by another guy no thats not right (well thats not how he does it)
he puts 3 supporting articles on the same topic (LSI kws included in these) on the same page
and then on that same page the Main Keyword Article is also put on that page

so thats a bit confusing

[JRCarson]

In my opinion, there's way too much thought going into this...

(But I totally understand, I've been there)

Do you have a main keyword that is in the domain name that will be optimized on the home page?

(Yes?)

Okay, make a POST for the home page. Make it "sticky" with the quick settings after you publish the post. Put it in a category that has the keyword in it.

Make other POSTS that are targeting other related keywords, link them to your home page with keyword anchor text in the content. Put those in categories with those targeted keywords in the category name.

Put a "categories" widget in the sidebar. Put a "recent posts" widget in the sidebar.

This is now a site that is easily navigated by the user.

The whole "siloing" thing is...SO confusing! Or maybe I just described siloing...I don't know! I don't care! I care if my site is useful to visitors, that's all that Google cares about.

[outwest]

Originally Posted by JRCarson

In my opinion, there's way too much thought going into this...

(But I totally understand, I've been there)

Do you have a main keyword that is in the domain name that will be optimized on the home page?

(Yes?)

Okay, make a POST for the home page. Make it "sticky" with the quick settings after you publish the post. Put it in a category that has the keyword in it.

Make other POSTS that are targeting other related keywords, link them to your home page with keyword anchor text in the content. Put those in categories with those targeted keywords in the category name.

Put a "categories" widget in the sidebar. Put a "recent posts" widget in the sidebar.

This is now a site that is easily navigated by the user.

The whole "siloing" thing is...SO confusing! Or maybe I just described siloing...I don't know! I don't care! I care if my site is useful to visitors, that's all that Google cares about.

IMO what you are proposing is standard operating procedure for many wp blogs and it is not SILO structure and confuses Google
everything seems to link to each other.
And you are saying make the post a sticky? on the home page?
that can only be done with one Post, (on top I am assuming?)

I am not sure though if what you said is SILO structure but it does not seem to describe what I know as SILO structure

others who are more familiar with it can either correct me or validate your plan

[JRCarson]

Originally Posted by outwest

IMO what you are proposing is standard operating procedure for many wp blogs and it is not SILO structure and confuses Google
everything seems to link to each other.
And you are saying make the post a sticky? on the home page?
that can only be done with one Post, (on top I am assuming?)

I am not sure though if what you said is SILO structure but it does not seem to describe what I know as SILO structure

others who are more familiar with it can either correct me or validate your plan

Describe how Wikipedia is set up (A site that links the crap out of itself to itself).

Anyway, I'll bow out for someones more technical answer. But in my experience it's not worth worrying about too much.

[MikeFriedman]

To accomplish what you want you need to make the keywords categories, not pages. Then you will want to set your categories as what shows up in the navigation menu. Your posts will then go under the appropriate categories.

It is actually pretty easy. Not sure why everyone was making it so complicated.

[yukon]

Originally Posted by JRCarson

In my opinion, there's way too much thought going into this...

(But I totally understand, I've been there)

Do you have a main keyword that is in the domain name that will be optimized on the home page?

(Yes?)

Okay, make a POST for the home page. Make it "sticky" with the quick settings after you publish the post. Put it in a category that has the keyword in it.

Make other POSTS that are targeting other related keywords, link them to your home page with keyword anchor text in the content. Put those in categories with those targeted keywords in the category name.

Put a "categories" widget in the sidebar. Put a "recent posts" widget in the sidebar.

This is now a site that is easily navigated by the user.

The whole "siloing" thing is...SO confusing! Or maybe I just described siloing...I don't know! I don't care! I care if my site is useful to visitors, that's all that Google cares about.

That's not a silo:

1) If you put a default Category widget in the sidebar you'll have ever single Category listed on every single Post page, which isn't going to be tightly themed.

You need custom code to return only the pages inside a single Category + any sub-categories in the category depending on the individual Post your currently viewing.

2) The "recent posts" widget would only continue diluting any silo theme, now it's just mixing every single Post page at random, again defeats a virtual silo.

Setting up a virtual silo is more than worth the time it takes, when trying to rank in the SERPs.

[yukon]

Guys I have some custom php code I think you'll like, If you really want a virtual silo inside Wordpress.

I've got custom php code for both Wordpress Pages & Post, so you can pick whatever one you want to use.

Hang on I'll post it here, I need to remove some hard coded stuff specific to my own WP theme.

[yukon]

For some reason when I remove the DIV from my code it screws up the sub-categories for Post pages. Still working on it...

Here is the Pages php code:

Wordpress Post Category.txt

I have to post a text file/link, WF keeps removing some of the php code.

Backup your site, or do like I do & use a test wordpress blog, until you tweak the code like you want (CSS/DIV, etc...).

This example would use all Pages (not Post) & replace your sidebar Categories code. The code runs good just remember to backup before testing anything.

You'll have a single Parent Page for each root keyword your trying to rank in the SERPs, then each supporting page will be a Child of the Parent Page.

Repeat for new keywords...

[outwest]

Looks like we are starting to get this cleared up Thanks yukon
will this jive or mesh with Clickbump theme?

[outwest]

Apparently Clickbump has a special theme just for Silo Structure

i got this off another site

"This theme is called the “clickbump X-factored 2” theme, and he has since added an additional silo theme simply called “authority”. It is built specifically to break a site up into relevant category landing pages, with the landing pages linking to each individual post in that category. Having all the relevant posts linked to from one page is very relevant in the eyes of the Google search algorithm, and helps greatly with LSI. The silo structure is not the only advantage of this theme though. The theme has built in SEO options, as well as numerous built-in advertising tools I.E. just enter your adsense code and a wide variety of adsense blocks are instantly available to display on your site. Also, the theme is updated constantly, and when I say constantly I mean once a week and the improvements are quite impressive."

[yukon]

Originally Posted by outwest

Looks like we are starting to get this cleared up Thanks yukon
will this jive or mesh with Clickbump theme?

I have no idea what CB does, I do all my own SEO, I don't want to guess what's going on with my sites SEO.

Bottom line is, the internal links on every page need to be from it's own Category If you really want a true silo (virtual silo).

You can link out of the keyword theme/silo just link to another silo root keyword page, or If you really have to link out of the theme/silo use a nofollow & keep the link count as low as possible. Myself I don't link outside of a keyword theme/silo.

[outwest]

Originally Posted by yukon

I have no idea what CB does, I do all my own SEO, I don't want to guess what's going on with my sites SEO.

Bottom line is, the internal links on every page need to be from it's own Category If you really want a true silo (virtual silo).

You can link out of the keyword theme/silo just link to another silo root keyword page, or If you really have to link out of the theme/silo use a nofollow & keep the link count as low as possible. Myself I don't link outside of a keyword theme/silo.

Thanks Yukon
i agree about the Importance of Silo structure, and I also think most 90 percent have no clue how to do it, but I want to start doing it, I know Google values it a lot

[Barry Unruh]

Just to add to the confusion...Or to try to get rid of my own headache after reading Yukon and Outwest's posts..

Here are a few YouTube Videos which try to address the issue:

Wordpress Silo Plugin & Silo Structure Explained...

Increase Rankings by Adding Silo Structure to an...

what is a silo structure - YouTube

Now, where was that bottle of Tylenol...

[yukon]

Originally Posted by Barry Unruh

Just to add to the confusion...Or to try to get rid of my own headache after reading Yukon and Outwest's posts..

Here are a few YouTube Videos which try to address the issue:

Now, where was that bottle of Tylenol...

The only video I agree with is the Theme Zoom video, the way they have their structure setup.

The first video just made me want to punch my monitor so the crazy sounding narration would stop.

The last video I don't agree linking out of the last supporting page in a theme/silo just because you can, that's just putting a hole in the theme/silo structure & defeats the whole point of creating the silo. Link out of a silo only If you have to, I can't think of a reason, I suppose maybe someone might need to? I would nofollow or iframe the link.

Silos are not complicated, you can link in/out of any page you want (all of them) in a single theme/silo, it's the linking out to unrelated pages outside of the theme/silo that dilutes the tight group of pages.

[outwest]

Originally Posted by yukon

The only video I agree with is the Theme Zoom video, the way they have their structure setup.

The first video just made me want to punch my monitor so the crazy sounding narration would stop.

The last video I don't agree linking out of the last supporting page in a theme/silo just because you can, that's just putting a hole in the theme/silo structure & defeats the whole point of creating the silo. Link out of a silo only If you have to, I can't think of a reason, I suppose maybe someone might need to? I would nofollow or iframe the link.

Silos are not complicated, you can link in/out of any page you want (all of them) in a single theme/silo, it's the linking out to unrelated pages outside of the theme/silo that dilutes the tight group of pages.

Correct Yukon
they dont seem complicated to me, but it takes a bit of time initially to grasp the entire concept, but once you do that,
you have to admit this is unconventional as far as the way most blogs are internally linked

Thanks to you and all who contributed to this thread

[MikeTheBuilder]

Originally Posted by yukon

For some reason when I remove the DIV from my code it screws up the sub-categories for Post pages. Still working on it...

Here is the Pages php code:

Wordpress Post Category.txt

I have to post a text file/link, WF keeps removing some of the php code.

Backup your site, or do like I do & use a test wordpress blog, until you tweak the code like you want (CSS/DIV, etc...).

This example would use all Pages (not Post) & replace your sidebar Categories code. The code runs good just remember to backup before testing anything.

You'll have a single Parent Page for each root keyword your trying to rank in the SERPs, then each supporting page will be a Child of the Parent Page.

Repeat for new keywords...

Hey Yukon, is there any chance you can upload the file again? I enjoy reading about your silo project and would like to get more information about it. However, I can't PM you yet..

P.s I do build my sites pretty close to the silo you describe. However, I'd like to maximize the potential of a silo.

Thanks in advance,
Mike..

[jdooley13]

So if you have a category widget in the sidebar and a recent post widget in the sidebar, you have defeated the silo even if you have your supporting posts all linking back to the proper page?
If that is correct, can you explain to me (I have very little technical skill if code needs to be changed) how I restrict the posts to only the page that they are linking to?
As it stands, I have a post on the HOME page that I made sticky. I have 4 other pages with content targeting for other kewords. Each supporting post targets one particular page and links back to that page in the text. (I think all that is how it is supposed to be done, correct?)
However, all the supporting posts show up on the HOME page beneath the sticky post and each supporting post shows up in the sidebar under "recent posts" (Until they drop off the page). Each category is also listed in the sidebar although you have to clcik on the category to see the posts in that category. The Recent Posts and the Categories show up on everypage.
How do I correct this problem if it does defeat the silo?

Thanks so much.