SENuke X got me penalized

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by jinx1221

Would you not do the same if you could?

Ummm no. I'd prefer to make a great product than just some software to take people's money but its pretty much how I suspected you would see internet marketing.

It DOES help you rank and make you money.. my friend Liz Spot just made $2 this year on the keyword "purple monkey underwear" on a site senuke was used to rank with.

Don't worry it will be just our secret that that example is one of your best success stories

Originally Posted by jinx1221

Please explain. You mean that if I buy a chansaw, and I saw my head off with it, I can sue Black and Decker, because the instructions didn't specifically warn me, "Do not run the blades of this chainsaw around your neck and slice through it, or your head might become disengaged from your body,

No Einstein but if it has a high setting and it has no warnings that the blades may slip off at high speed and fly into the air and they end up around your neck and cutting off your head your loved ones will have a good lawsuit to collect on. See....... your still no good with the analogies.

[jinx1221]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

I didn't like you dropping everything on the Op and blaming him not because he is my customer (he's not) but because on PRINCIPLE I think its wrong. I am not going to dance and whine and dine around you because you will or will not buy my products. get over yourself. this seller believes in what he sells more than he needs your cash and isn't going to let you dump on the OP because its good "PR".

Sheesh you not buying a product from me isn't the point of this thread. Thinking it is is the most arrogant thing in this thread to date.

Well thats good, then, to have principles. So what are you saying? Im not sure of your end verdict on the subject at hand? All Ive heard is a bunch of whining about senuke! I say, use a tool if you want, dont blame the tool if your site disappears, and if you use a tool, use it to make what you would do manually anyways alot easier.

[licketysplit]

Originally Posted by jinx1221

It DOES help you rank and make you money.. my friend Liz Spot just made $2 this year on the keyword "purple monkey underwear" on a site senuke was used to rank with..

Welp, I can't really argue with your friend's $2 per year return on their $100-something per month investment...

but nowhere I've seen on their website says "You Will NOT be penalized by using this software" Haha!

Haha, I just checked out their website and it says exactly that:

"Due to the huge number of sites available in SEnuke X, our customers are immune from any Google slaps."

Boom. Try spinning that...

[jinx1221]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Ummm no. I'd prefer to make a great product than just some software to take people's money but its pretty much how I suspected you would see internet marketing.

Actually, Im being sarcastic, and no, thats not how I see internet marketing.. again and again, are you blind or stupid, I am not promoting senuke! Why all the insults? Wtf is with you and your personal attacks?!!

[jinx1221]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Don't worry it will be just our secret that that example is one of your best success stories

Again, sarcasm. If you can actually read between the lines, you would see that I am making light senukes abilities.. I am saying that the site says it can make you money and rank your site, so I feel $2 a year and ranking "purple monkey underwear" is doing what it advertizes, right?

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by licketysplit

"Due to the huge number of sites available in SEnuke X, our customers are immune from any Google slaps."

Boom. Try spinning that...

LOL! Missed that one. all the defences are falling off the rails. Immune? Thats either gross ignorance on their part or straight up in your face lying.

Originally Posted by jinx1221

I am not promoting senuke!

Promoting ? perhaps not. Defending and claiming it does exactly what is promised? unquestionable and who is calling you blind and stupid? You are doing the personal attacks and name calling

[jinx1221]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

No Einstein but if it has a high setting and it has no warnings that the blades may slip off at high speed and fly into the air and they end up around your neck and cutting off your head your loved ones will have a good lawsuit to collect on. See....... your still no good with the analogies.

Well, yeah, if there was a design flaw. But there isnt any design flaw here. If the site does in fact say that you will never, ever, in a million years have your sites taken down for the use of senuke, then I guess that's marketing for you.. but if were talking lawsuits, and you check your tos when you install some piece of software, then decide to sue them for using said software, you would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the software caused your site to be deindexed. In which case you would have to testify that you were blatantly going against googles tos which specifically prohibits the use of such methods of using artificial means as a way to rank your sites higher. Either way, you lose.

What you are saying is, "Your honor, there was no warning label that said that if I pull this trigger, the bullet that comes out will kill someone, so my friends death is all Smith and Wessons fault!".. point is, dont blame the software for doing what it is designed to do, and you know what it does!

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by jinx1221

Either way, you lose. Someone who is obviously promoting SEO methods might want to not go there with me in the legal category.

someone who has no clue about law should not go there with me. Google's rules have nothing to do with product liability flaws in SenukeX's software. Paticularly in light of their promise

Originally Posted by licketysplit

"Due to the huge number of sites available in SEnuke X, our customers are immune from ANY Google slaps."

It would be perfectly understandable if someone read that and came away with the conclusion that everything was on the up and up with the software in regard to Google since the only logical way that any software maker could claim to be immune of ANY penalty is if their techniques were completely within the TOS. So rather than help you their claim in light of the TOS bites your argument in the rear as a misrepresentation of their products conformity to Google's TOS.

Either way yet another one of your arguments in defence fails.

anyway its been fun helping you double your post count but I must retire now to finish some work and then hit the sack.

[jinx1221]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

someone who has no clue about law should not go there with me. Google's rules have nothing to do with product liability flaws in SenukeX's software. Paticularly in light of their promises.

Ok well good night then, oh by the way, are all the methods you teach in your "Destroy Google" campaign all within googles tos? One would hope that after reading your methods, one site doesn't suddenly disappear for reading and implementing such advice as setting up contextual links on sites with high PR in order to boost ones rankings. But you do have a disclaimer that prevents legal action, should one arise, do you not?

[marsali67]

Maybe having a mixture of both manual and automatic links might help deter the big g from paying too much attention.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by jinx1221

Ok well good night then, oh by the way, are all the methods you teach in your "Destroy Google" campaign all within googles tos? One would hope that after reading your methods, one site doesn't suddenly disappear for reading and implementing such advice as setting up contextual links on sites with high PR in order to boost ones rankings. But you do have a disclaimer that prevents legal action, should one arise, do you not?

Don't need to put any disclaimers in the fine print. My course covers all of that right in the videos. You think you would catch me in some hypocrisy Jinx? That I would complain about SenukeX not telling the whole truth and nothing but and do the same thing?

Theres not a person that goes through my course that does not know the risks and the best practices to limit them (but never entirely eliminate them). Sorry no hypocrisy for you to expose.

edit : scratch that. Stay on the subject of this thread not whats in my sig.

[Marc_L]

Originally Posted by jinx1221

Ok well good night then, oh by the way, are all the methods you teach in your "Destroy Google" campaign all within googles tos? One would hope that after reading your methods, one site doesn't suddenly disappear for reading and implementing such advice as setting up contextual links on sites with high PR in order to boost ones rankings. But you do have a disclaimer that prevents legal action, should one arise, do you not?

Buying aged PR domains to manipulate the SERPs is just as black hat as doing xrumer blasts. Don't let anybody fool you.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Marc_L

Buying aged PR domains to manipulate the SERPs is just as black hat as doing xrumer blasts. Don't let anybody fool you.

Like I told Jinx -off topic. last I checked this thread was neither about xrummer blasts or aged domains. You are just running from thread to thread to start talking about whatever I have in my sig. but please go on. Like jinx its great advertising. I should pay you guys.

Hmmm what is it about Mikes sig that has everyone so fascinated with it / scared of it? LOL

[Marc_L]

Originally Posted by Marc_L

Buying aged PR domains to manipulate the SERPs is just as black hat as doing xrumer blasts. Don't let anybody fool you.

Buying aged PR domains to manipulate the SERPs is just as black hat as doing senuke blasts. Don't let anybody fool you.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Marc_L

Buying aged PR domains to manipulate the SERPs is just as black hat as doing senuke blasts. Don't let anybody fool you.

You are half way there . Now where in the OP is there anything about aged domains and exactly who was allegedly fooling anybody that buying aged domains was White hat?

[Barry Unruh]

Originally Posted by licketysplit

"Due to the huge number of sites available in SEnuke X, our customers are immune from any Google slaps."

Boom. Try spinning that...

Ok...I'll spin that by using their wonderful added disclaimer since you took that line out of context...

Due to the huge number of sites available in SEnuke X, our customers are immune from any Google slaps. Those in trouble are the ones who rely on one type of link to boost their sites, or post junk content on their site.

Of course...who judges whether the content is "JUNK" or not? It sure is a good escape clause....

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Barry Unruh

Of course...who judges whether the content is "JUNK" or not? It sure is a good escape clause....

Hey Barry. Read it two times and I see no escape clause there. You kinda took it out of context as well. Heres the paragraph that goes before it.

As you can probably tell by the success stories above, SEnuke X is fully compatible with Google's latest changes! No matter what your niche is: dog training, weight loss or any of the other thousands of niches, we are getting success reports on a weekly basis saying their rankings haven't been hurt one bit by the latest Google changes. A lot of them even say their rankings have improved!

So the copy IS telling them that there are Google slaps that people get but that if they use SenukeX with all of its links they are immune from link spam issues.

"Those in trouble are the ones who rely on one type of link to boost their sites,OR post junk content on their site.


So they are clearly saying there are two reasons for slaps and the software protects you from one which is very much false.

[arnold55]

Originally Posted by arnie19

Well, my other website which is PR4 got penalized by G. I am only using senuke x to it and it started when the indexed backlinks where deindexed and my website's backlink counts dropped. I believed it was when those backlink you've created with the software where deleted by the webmaster of the site where they have been put.

I still agree that using manual method for permanent link is much better or hiring people and outsourcing works to them.

I know the tools a lot and all contents I am using are 3 spun version and original articles only with high quality that I got from Freelancer writers.

Did you experience the same? it started to happen this August 2011.

How much traffic do you have...and....how many incoming links do you have?
Is it over balanced?

arnold55
mike reynolds

[monere]

So much hate on you man! Really ...

[sergeru]

i used senukex n i seen some great results with it, as long as u dont abuse it and spread the submissions and also use other types of linkbuilding with it for diversity #truestory