SENuke X got me penalized

[arnie19]

Well, my other website which is PR4 got penalized by G. I am only using senuke x to it and it started when the indexed backlinks where deindexed and my website's backlink counts dropped. I believed it was when those backlink you've created with the software where deleted by the webmaster of the site where they have been put.

I still agree that using manual method for permanent link is much better or hiring people and outsourcing works to them.

I know the tools a lot and all contents I am using are 3 spun version and original articles only with high quality that I got from Freelancer writers.

Did you experience the same? it started to happen this August 2011.

[iAmNameLess]

I really doubt that is why you are penalized. I think that you feel you are penalized because you don't have optimal results and instead of adjusting your strategy you are just blaming software.

I think you should look more towards link velocity... You say your links were deindexed, if that is the case why didn't you buy more? If your links were removed by the webmaster of alleged sites, then it isn't the software that got you penalized, it is the removal of links that hurt your ranking.

Not everything is a penalty. People can be on the first page and move back to page 8, for natural reasons not involving penalties.

[Raul991]

Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

I really doubt that is why you are penalized. I think that you feel you are penalized because you don't have optimal results and instead of adjusting your strategy you are just blaming software.

I think you should look more towards link velocity... You say your links were deindexed, if that is the case why didn't you buy more? If your links were removed by the webmaster of alleged sites, then it isn't the software that got you penalized, it is the removal of links that hurt your ranking.

Not everything is a penalty. People can be on the first page and move back to page 8, for natural reasons not involving penalties.

Yeah, I agree there is no point in blaming the software that does what it supposed to. Just keep on building the backlinks and you will reach your goals.

[Cool Hand Luke]

The above poster is right. SeNukeX is simply put, a spamming technique which shows itself easily with an unnatural link velocity. Get rid of it and find new methods.

[Mike Anthony]

I must confess I don't understand SenukeX users. I mean I get if you are a service provider selling the weak link service to others because you can make back the money out of it but if you are not a service provider why in the world would you shell out $149 for those kind of garbage links? You could build yourself a nice SEO network over the next year with the funds and once you learn how to leverage it end up with real links even beyond the aged domains you buy.

All I can figure is that it sells based on the silly myth that there is a piece of software out there where if you just click a button it can make you rank. People keep telling me on this forum that SEO is easy and yet there are ton loads of people right here buying the nonsense that a piece of software can make you rank with a push of a button.

[CanadaSEO]

The problem is not with the use of the software. It is how you properly optimize your site. It doesn't mean that when you don't get optimal results from any theory, service or software, it doesn't work. Just properly execute your SEO campaign and you'll be on your way to the top of the search engines.

[Bryan V]

@Arnie19 - Better remove your penis enlargement sig link.

[arnie19]

Oh well. I think I need to stop using senuke and focus on my other tools. FYI, Google sent a message to me for the unusual activity of the site (Spamming).

To all the above response. I respect your thoughts and thanks!

[kkchoon]

SENUke or any other tools if not used properly won't give any result, but I doubt it will post any penalty. Need more information before we can have any conclusion.

[Natlex]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

I must confess I don't understand SenukeX users. I mean I get if you are a service provider selling the weak link service to others because you can make back the money out of it but if you are not a service provider why in the world would you shell out $149 for those kind of garbage links? You could build yourself a nice SEO network over the next year with the funds and once you learn how to leverage it end up with real links even beyond the aged domains you buy.

All I can figure is that it sells based on the silly myth that there is a piece of software out there where if you just click a button it can make you rank. People keep telling me on this forum that SEO is easy and yet there are ton loads of people right here buying the nonsense that a piece of software can make you rank with a push of a button.

Amen... It's really fun to use but I really do not see results that make it worthwhile to use. The results I get from it so far are mild and honestly to put more time into it (building a LOT of web 2.0s, managing them with new content, giving them links from AMR/scrapebox, getting everything indexed with social bookmarking) I might as well get a VA operating it so then I have the monthly fee + VA to pay... All for results that seem very mild to me vs other cheaper alternatives (blog netowrks/article syndication services)

[thebitbotdotcom]

Originally Posted by arnie19

Oh well. I think I need to stop using senuke and focus on my other tools. FYI, Google sent a message to me for the unusual activity of the site (Spamming).

To all the above response. I respect your thoughts and thanks!

Wow. They sent you an email. That's pretty bad.

[Illuminart]

Word of advise, never settle for automated software. They may be effective but they can be very detrimental if misused.

[Hustle]

Its not SEnuke to be honest. Its you Seriously, the software is designed to build links and it does it fine. Now its up to you to use it wisely or go nuts.
Think of a gun... its a life saver when you use it for your personal defense but extremely dangerous when you give it to some 6 years old kid.

[kulonuwun]

as long as you have high quality website with more unique articles and also aged domain, using automated sofware should be no problem. For a new website must be carefull, dont too fast do link building. Mr G may penalized for that spammed link building.

[Raul991]

Originally Posted by arnie19

Oh well. I think I need to stop using senuke and focus on my other tools. FYI, Google sent a message to me for the unusual activity of the site (Spamming).

To all the above response. I respect your thoughts and thanks!

Really? Google sent you a message? Wow, I have done backlinking for so long and I havent had the pleasure of Google contacting me, I would be honoured

[linkbuildr]

This is the msg they send;

Dear site owner or webmaster of ^^^^^^
We’ve detected that some of your site’s pages may be using techniques that are outside Google’s Webmaster Guidelines.
Specifically, look for possibly artificial or unnatural links pointing to your site that could be intended to manipulate PageRank. Examples of unnatural linking could include buying links to pass PageRank or participating in link schemes.
We encourage you to make changes to your site so that it meets our quality guidelines. Once you’ve made these changes, please submit your site for reconsideration in Google’s search results.
If you find unnatural links to your site that you are unable to control or remove, please provide the details in your reconsideration request.
If you have any questions about how to resolve this issue, please see our Webmaster Help Forum for support.
Sincerely, Google Search Quality Team

SE Nuke is a link scheme and highly against Google's TOS

[Whos That Guru]

Originally Posted by linkbuildr

This is the msg they send;

Dear site owner or webmaster of ^^^^^^
We’ve detected that some of your site’s pages may be using techniques that are outside Google’s Webmaster Guidelines.
Specifically, look for possibly artificial or unnatural links pointing to your site that could be intended to manipulate PageRank. Examples of unnatural linking could include buying links to pass PageRank or participating in link schemes.
We encourage you to make changes to your site so that it meets our quality guidelines. Once you’ve made these changes, please submit your site for reconsideration in Google’s search results.
If you find unnatural links to your site that you are unable to control or remove, please provide the details in your reconsideration request.
If you have any questions about how to resolve this issue, please see our Webmaster Help Forum for support.
Sincerely, Google Search Quality Team

SE Nuke is a link scheme and highly against Google's TOS

Who cares?

Google isn't the only search engine on the web. Blast your links and dominate all the other engines.. lol

Also, think about this.. I do not believe for a second that you got a penalty.

If this were the case, I could go and run a piss-poor campaign on a competitor's site just to get rid of my competition. Which I can't. lol so why would it be different for a site of your own?

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Whos That Guru

Who cares?

Google isn't the only search engine on the web. Blast your links and dominate all the other engines.. lol

Also, think about this.. I do not believe for a second that you got a penalty.

If this were the case, I could go and run a piss-poor campaign on a competitor's site just to get rid of my competition. Which I can't. lol so why would it be different for a site of your own?

This tired response needs to be re - tired. Its absolutely false and its offered even in the DIRECT presence of real evidence. Google has been sending out and penalizing MULTIPLE SITES. That letter is not unusual. They started sending out a few months back and I have posted the links to this over and over.

You will never tank your competitors sites IF they have good solid links. You can and sites have been tanked when they do not have those solid links. Its time to deal with reality instead of responding with the same "if that were true I could tank my competitors sites" answer.

Yes you can tank sites. Google couldn't care less if you or your competitors sites disappear IF they are the kinds of sites that they don't want anyway. Wake up! Google is not out to protect anything but the quality of their search results.

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by Whos That Guru

Who cares?

Google isn't the only search engine on the web. Blast your links and dominate all the other engines.. lol

Who cares? Really? If you don't live in Russia (Yandex) or China (Baidu) and you are going to worry about search engine traffic at all, you better care about Google or else you are just missing the majority of your search engine traffic.

If you are not going to care about Google, you might as well just not focus on search engine traffic at all.

[Whos That Guru]

I know they are the most popular. I'm just saying they aren't the only search engine...

Trust me I know how important they are, but if it was taken away I wouldn't care.. There are millions of other ways to drive traffic to a site.

And I STILL don't believe he is penalized.

If anything he is probably sandboxed or started the "google dance" - it's not the end of the world.

Happened to me before, and I kept building links from quality sites. When I came out, I ranked higher than I did before.

All I know, is I do plenty of link building and I've never got any email like that.. I'm on first page of serps for my sites.

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by Whos That Guru

And I STILL don't believe he is penalized.

If anything he is probably sandboxed or started the "google dance" - it's not the end of the world.

Happened to me before, and I kept building links from quality sites. When I came out, I ranked higher than I did before.

All I know, is I do plenty of link building and I've never got any email like that.. I'm on first page of serps for my sites.

There are hundreds and hundreds of people that have posted receiving this exact same letter from Google. You only get it if you use Webmaster Tools. If you are not using that, you wouldn't receive it.

In the letter, they state after cleaning up your link profile to submit your site for reconsideration. That sounds a hell of a lot like a penalty to me.

[boxoun]

If you build links manually to try to manipulate search results you are going against Google tos and you are spamming. Mind as well learn to use tools. You simply are using it wrong.

You can also rent services for as little as $30/month so the price argument is no longer valid.

[Whos That Guru]

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

There are hundreds and hundreds of people that have posted receiving this exact same letter from Google. You only get it if you use Webmaster Tools. If you are not using that, you wouldn't receive it.

In the letter, they state after cleaning up your link profile to submit your site for reconsideration. That sounds a hell of a lot like a penalty to me.

Ohh. Yeah I don't use webmaster tools.

But that could also have something to do with why they penalized him in the first place.. I read somewhere that its not a good idea to use it if you are using automation to build links.

They can apparently see all sorts of things that they wouldn't be able to see if you weren't using webmaster tools.

But keep in mind, I have no idea if this is true or not.. This is just what I read awhile back.

As for the reconsideration request, not really sure about that either.. Never had to do anything like that. I must have overlooked that part before. So after reading that, yes I admit it does sound like a penalty.

LOL I'm not saying I'm right or wrong here, I dont know. Nobody knows what Google is going to do except for Google.

[iAmNameLess]

Well... either way... I don't think he is penalized because of SE Nuke. These software programs and scripts do exactly what they are supposed to. It is the user who is to blame, not the software.

[russianbear]

It's been reported several times already. You get a penalty if you use popular senuke templates like "full monty". Google has started to recognize these footprints.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Whos That Guru

LOL I'm not saying I'm right or wrong here, I dont know. Nobody knows what Google is going to do except for Google.

Thats the thing though. They have talked the talk and now walked the walk. A pile of people have got those notices and I wouldn't necessarily put it down to Webmaster tools. A good chunk of these reports start out with a spam complaint from a competitor and not having webmaster tools installed doesn't stop a manual review based on a spam report.

[boxoun]

Originally Posted by russianbear

It's been reported several times already. You get a penalty if you use popular senuke templates like "full monty". Google has started to recognize these footprints.

I agree here. Using templates are for newbs and newbs get penalized. Stop being lazy and learn advanced/ safe techniques. Otherwise don't use it.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by iAmNameLess

e. These software programs and scripts do exactly what they are supposed to. It is the user who is to blame, not the software.

SenukeX is designed to send those kinds of links. Theres no amount of dancing to get around that fact

[Whos That Guru]

Na come on man. Anybody who knows how to use the software knows that they can import their own links.

Combine Senuke X with Scrapebox and space out your schedules for the next few months, and thats really all there is to it..

I'm sure you know that with SB you can harvest relevant sites, forums, anything.. not just blogs.

You can also check the PR, scan the number of outbound links, all sorts of stuff. lol so yeah it all depends on how they are being used.

Obviously the default settings and sites are going to be abused.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Whos That Guru

Combine Senuke X with Scrapebox and space out your schedules for the next few months, and thats really all there is to it..

You are right - Thats all there is to it. You get a bunch of crappy links For A hundred and plenty a month. Thats it. nothing else. Scrapebox CAN be used in a variety of ways but did I mention SB? Nope. You brought that in. Senukex is a spamming tool - plain and simple. It has more forum profile links than anything else. If I am wrong then correct me because it was such a laugher for $147 per month I never looked back. It is a total WASTE of money unless you are a newb that does not know better or a service provider peddling its inferior backlinks in order for it to pay for itself. Anyone using it for even six months would end up spending near a thousand dollars that you could do A WHOLE LOT BETTER with

If Panda and the slaps people are getting does not wake people up that the old days of throwing 10,000 forum links at a page are gone then nothing will, Can you submit articles with SenukeX? or bookmarking ? Sure but at the end of the day AMR and BMD can cover you and leave plenty cash left over as one time purchases.

Everytime someone gets slapped by using software like Xrummer and SenukeX the EXACT way they are designed and promoted to be used someone always comes in blaming the person using it like it just couldn't be the terribly flawed concept behind the software itself

[Whos That Guru]

I know SB wasn't mentioned and I was the one who brought it up. But if someone is going to have Senuke, 9 times out of 10 they also have SB.

Chill out man, lol I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying. I'm actually agreeing with a lot of it. But at the same time, these things are best when used together with other programs.

As for the price, it can easily pay for itself and then some. lol

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Whos That Guru

As for the price, it can easily pay for itself and then some. lol

Sure. thats why I see it killing all the top search terms on Google. Oh wait

I only see those links in weak serps.

Nah man. its not about your great love of spamming software . its about helping people and unless you are running a service SenukeX is a waste for individual users. they can do ten times better for the price and have more lasting resources. Plus whether you like it , forgot it or are just lost this thread is about how those kinds of links and practices get sites penalized. FACT

So you can blame the Op all you want multiple people have go the warning notices and been penalized and they are not all newbs. they use the software just the way it was intended to be used. but funny thing....

Why didn't you correct me that SenukeX isn't heaviest with forum links?

[Whos That Guru]

unless you are running a service SenukeX is a waste for individual users

I never said I wasn't running a blasting service

However I also use it for my own sites, and with great results.

Sure, some people get penalized. And others don't.

But just like a gun, it can be used for good or bad. But its not the gun's fault if it is used for something bad.

It's the person operating it.. lol figuratively speaking of course.

they can do ten times better for the price and have more lasting resources.

definitely, but that would involve some hands-on work which people just seem a bit too lazy to do these days.

Why didn't you correct me that SenukeX isn't heaviest with forum links?

like i said, i agree with a lot of what you posted.

Anyway, yeah you do make valid points. But don't be too quick to dismiss the possibility that it really DOES produce awesome results when used correctly.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Whos That Guru

I never said I wasn't running a blasting service

The truth always comes out

But just like a gun, it can be used for good or bad. But its not the gun's fault if it is used for something bad. It's the person operating it..

ROFL. That analogy is so weak man. Tell me what is the forum profile section in SenukeX designed to do? Make meaningful spam free posts?

To use your analogy. its like saying guns were not designed to fire bullets

Anyway, yeah you do make valid points. But don't be too quick to dismiss the possibility that it really DOES produce awesome results when used correctly.

It doesn't. you are just redefining what awesome means. I see ton loads of serps that are very competitive and make ton loads of money and they ALWAYS have links coming from authority PR pages causing tham to rank. You want to show us awesome?? Show me a truly competitive serp where forum profile links are killing it. I've offered a hundred dollars by Paypal to anyone who could meet the challenge and they always run away.

remember I said REALLY competitive. I'll let you in on a secret . - If I ever do find a serp where forum profile sand social bookmarks along with article directories are causing rankings it is usually a weak old long tail. I safely quit all competitive research because I then KNOW I can outrank the top sites - easily.

Come on man. Stop trying to lead people astray. IF Senuke X gave Awesome results people wouldn't need services like Build My rank and Homepage backlinks. You as a service provider would be blowing up all those services.

[Whos That Guru]

LOL there are guns that fire blanks!

So there are 2 separate ways to use it, ya kno? haha

And yeah I know its a weak analogy, but still. No point arguing over something like this, its not like I created the software. lol

But to be fair, the forum profile module doesn't make any posts. So how is it spamming?

I think you are confusing XRumer with Senuke in that aspect.

Senuke only creates the profiles and updates them with the links and bio, or "about me" section - it doesn't go and post on the forums or threads.. So technically, its not spamming anything.

Spam is the use of electronic messaging systems (including most broadcast media, digital delivery systems) to send unsolicited bulk messages indiscriminately.

So how is it spamming if it doesnt "send" or "post" anything? It just updates the profile with a link..

edit: I just saw your edit, lol

You want proof?? LOL I can show you #2 rank (might still be #1 but im not sure) on google out of 20,000,000 results..

And to prove it even more, you can see my profile on there.. Username is Whos That Guru, title - ADMIN.

Now I admit, I didn't use Senuke alone. I also used Scrapebox, TA Pro and some other methods of promotion. But the fact remains, site is #2 out of 20,000,000 results (and thats just google's rough estimate)

I never got any email telling me to stop it, or to submit the site for reconsideration..

Ryan (another admin) has wiped out the entire database countless times, and we STILL rank that high! lol so please, i'll take my 100 dollars via paypal now. lmfao

but no seriously, hit me up on skype if you think im just screwing with you. i can show you.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Whos That Guru

So how is it spamming if it doesnt "send" or "post" anything? It just updates the profile with a link..

Oh vey. You do know we have been talking about link spamming this entire time. Thats what Google penalizes. time to do some google searches until you know what is being discussed.


and yeah forum owners not only identify forum profile blasts as spam but they have registries of the spamming email addresses and IP (not that it does them any good with proxies and one time email addresses). Spamming is not just confined to posts.

[Whos That Guru]

Touche.

lol either way, this is getting us nowhere. haha its like arguing with myself, i'll never win. again figuratively speaking. (obviously if im arguing with myself, i would win no matter the outcome) but i just mean that as far as persistence goes.

you have your opinions, i have mine. but i do respect the fact that you are willing to e-fight to defend your opinion!

all i know is the wife is yelling for me saying the tacos are done

take care man, i look forward to some more hearty debates that could go on for hours and hours in the future! lol

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Whos That Guru

Now I admit, I didn't use Senuke alone. I also used Scrapebox, TA Pro and some other methods of promotion. But the fact remains, site is #2 out of 20,000,000 results (and thats just google's rough estimate)

LOL. What would SenukeX sellers do without that completely made up nonsense fake competition number of how many results are in Google for a term as if that determines a competitive serp.

Here then
https://www.google.com/search?source...9l3.3.5.2l13l0

That beats yours by 17 million and STILL is as weak as paper - unless you think there are 37 million people competing to rank for "water bread shoes" - because search count is just an indication of how many times a term appears in the index NOT how much people want to rank for it and gives you NO idea of competition.

Keep this up and you will have to send ME a hundred dollars for teaching you SEO.

[Whos That Guru]

LOL I like this guy.

I know all about the index. I never said it was 20,000,000 competing sites. I said results..

But anyway, na I really am getting hungry so I'm going to eat. lol ttyl man

And just out of curiosity, what made you think of "water bread shoes" ?? HAHA that would have been an excellent point if I HAD said 20,000,000 competitors

That is some random stuff right there.

[rankinghero]

"SENuke X got me penalized"

Sorry but Senuke X didn't . You did it. SeNuke is just a tool.... you are the one using it mate.

[Matt Baker]

I have tried using SEnukeX and its good for link building. But it would also used for spamming which is I think the cause why your website is penalized.

[Gary Becks]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

I must confess I don't understand SenukeX users. I mean I get if you are a service provider selling the weak link service to others because you can make back the money out of it but if you are not a service provider why in the world would you shell out $149 for those kind of garbage links? You could build yourself a nice SEO network over the next year with the funds and once you learn how to leverage it end up with real links even beyond the aged domains you buy.

All I can figure is that it sells based on the silly myth that there is a piece of software out there where if you just click a button it can make you rank. People keep telling me on this forum that SEO is easy and yet there are ton loads of people right here buying the nonsense that a piece of software can make you rank with a push of a button.

Not that I totally disagree with your statement (not a big senuke fan myself) but just trying to get some clarification on your stance regarding the links that it builds. From what I read here you are basically saying it's useless but then in this thread SENUKE vs MAGIC SUBMITTER...thoughts? your singing praises to Magic submitter which more or less does the exact same thing.

In regards to the OP, Senuke is a tool and as such your thread title is bogus, "Senuke got me penalized" you got your site penalized by the way you chose to use or not use the tool effectively for your overall seo needs..

[Domsa]

It's high time people start thinking for themselves. When purchasing a product or a service, stop thinking you have just discovered an I.WIN. button. First of all, it's on the market, meaning you're not that special. Second of all, if it was so good, the creator would rank every single high traffic term there is (since it's autopilot of course) and become the king of the interwebz.

[JeanneLynn]

I am building several sites right now. I wanted to try different techniques with each one to try to get a blueprint of success for future sites. The sites that I had blasted with SENuke and Sb (Fiverr gigs) are doing horrible. The site I didn't use anything on (no backlinking at all, just original content written by me) is doing the best of all. It's about 6 weeks old and I'm getting about 200 unique visitors a day. I know, not much traffic yet, but I'm watching to see how it grows naturally.

[JohnnyC123]

Originally Posted by JeanneLynn

I am building several sites right now. I wanted to try different techniques with each one to try to get a blueprint of success for future sites. The sites that I had blasted with SENuke and Sb (Fiverr gigs) are doing horrible. The site I didn't use anything on (no backlinking at all, just original content written by me) is doing the best of all. It's about 6 weeks old and I'm getting about 200 unique visitors a day. I know, not much traffic yet, but I'm watching to see how it grows naturally.

Surely you must have built some basic links or done some promotion of sorts in order to get it noticed?

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Gary Becks

From what I read here you are basically saying it's useless but then in this thread SENUKE vs MAGIC SUBMITTER...thoughts? your singing praises to Magic submitter which more or less does the exact same thing.

I find it remarkable that you would claim to have read what I wrote in that thread and not have actually read what I wrote in that thread. I thought it was clarified pretty well there. Maybe you could read it again? I have been terribly consistent if you read my posts. Magic submitter has one HUGE difference - YOU CAN ADD ANY SITE TO IT. Thats is SPECIFICALLY noted by me in that thread. That means I can utilize all kinds of sites and pages - not just a standard set of forum profiles to spam, not just a certain set of bookmarks. I can add blogs where I am allowed to post, press release sites of my choosing , sites where I am a regular contributor and on and on and on. I even can use it to post and add links to my own domains and blogs in my network. So you are wrong. they are not the same thing. Now If SenukeX can now do these things then that objection would be removed but why would I bother when I pay a third of the monthly fee and get everything including now a diagrammer with MS?

In regards to the OP, Senuke is a tool and as such your thread title is bogus, "Senuke got me penalized" you got your site penalized by the way you chose to use or not use the tool effectively for your overall seo needs..

Now thats bogus. If people pay $149 a month for program you expect them not to use all its capabilities? What? they are supposed to not use the forum profiles that Senuke X has the most of? This is just an example of shooting the messenger. Thes links are weak and spammy. they can help with popularity from time to time but they just plain are not worth getting on an individual basis for $147 a month. Period. Blame the OP all you want. Its the kind of links that it delivers that is the problem.

[JeanneLynn]

Originally Posted by JohnnyC123

Surely you must have built some basic links or done some promotion of sorts in order to get it noticed?

I did create a facebook fan page and submit some of the posts to Digg.com. However, I have absolutely no backlinks in Google at all when I check. I overwrite my posts though. They average about 700 words; one is 1800 words. I've got about 30 original articles on the website right now. I'm trying to get to 100 articles.

To be fair, I have no pagerank at all (0/10) and my Alexa rank is 2.2 million. So I assume that people are finding it through various search phrases found in the long articles.

I'm a newbie so I'm just trying to guess how it all works as I'm going along. I've read some ebooks and WSOs on article writing.

The blog is not profitable yet. I've made a whopping $15 in Adsense in the last 6 weeks. The main problem is that they're not giving me relevant ads. I'm hoping this changes soon. I want some money!

[boxoun]

Nothing to see here. Just another poster who admits to never using it but feels like they have the expert opinion. Once again, you can find senukex for as little as $30/month so your price point argument is not valid.

I'm willing to bet a lot of money you also spam whether you think it is or not. Get off your high horse. Try it out and maybe, just maybe, we'll care about your opinions.

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

You are right - Thats all there is to it. You get a bunch of crappy links For A hundred and plenty a month. Thats it. nothing else. Scrapebox CAN be used in a variety of ways but did I mention SB? Nope. You brought that in. Senukex is a spamming tool - plain and simple. It has more forum profile links than anything else. If I am wrong then correct me because it was such a laugher for $147 per month I never looked back. It is a total WASTE of money unless you are a newb that does not know better or a service provider peddling its inferior backlinks in order for it to pay for itself. Anyone using it for even six months would end up spending near a thousand dollars that you could do A WHOLE LOT BETTER with

If Panda and the slaps people are getting does not wake people up that the old days of throwing 10,000 forum links at a page are gone then nothing will, Can you submit articles with SenukeX? or bookmarking ? Sure but at the end of the day AMR and BMD can cover you and leave plenty cash left over as one time purchases.

Everytime someone gets slapped by using software like Xrummer and SenukeX the EXACT way they are designed and promoted to be used someone always comes in blaming the person using it like it just couldn't be the terribly flawed concept behind the software itself

[boxoun]

Of course you use profiles, to backlinks your links. Next.

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

I find it remarkable that you would claim to have read what I wrote in that thread and not have actually read what I wrote in that thread. I thought it was clarified pretty well there. Maybe you could read it again? I have been terribly consistent if you read my posts. Magic submitter has one HUGE difference - YOU CAN ADD ANY SITE TO IT. Thats is SPECIFICALLY noted by me in that thread. That means I can utilize all kinds of sites and pages - not just a standard set of forum profiles to spam, not just a certain set of bookmarks. I can add blogs where I am allowed to post, press release sites of my choosing , sites where I am a regular contributor and on and on and on. I even can use it to post and add links to my own domains and blogs in my network. So you are wrong. they are not the same thing. Now If SenukeX can now do these things then that objection would be removed but why would I bother when I pay a third of the monthly fee and get everything including now a diagrammer with MS?

Now thats bogus. If people pay $149 a month for program you expect them not to use all its capabilities? What? they are supposed to not use the forum profiles that Senuke X has the most of? This is just an example of shooting the messenger. Thes links are weak and spammy. they can help with popularity from time to time but they just plain are not worth getting on an individual basis for $147 a month. Period. Blame the OP all you want. Its the kind of links that it delivers that is the problem.

[Gary Becks]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

I find it remarkable that you would claim to have read what I wrote in that thread and not have actually read what I wrote in that thread. I thought it was clarified pretty well there. Maybe you could read it again? I have been terribly consistent if you read my posts. Magic submitter has one HUGE difference - YOU CAN ADD ANY SITE TO IT. Thats is SPECIFICALLY noted by me in that thread. That means I can utilize all kinds of sites and pages - not just a standard set of forum profiles to spam, not just a certain set of bookmarks. I can add blogs where I am allowed to post, press release sites of my choosing , sites where I am a regular contributor and on and on and on. I even can use it to post and add links to my own domains and blogs in my network. So you are wrong. they are not the same thing. Now If SenukeX can now do these things then that objection would be removed but why would I bother when I pay a third of the monthly fee and get everything including now a diagrammer with MS?

Now thats bogus. If people pay $149 a month for program you expect them not to use all its capabilities? What? they are supposed to not use the forum profiles that Senuke X has the most of? This is just an example of shooting the messenger. Thes links are weak and spammy. they can help with popularity from time to time but they just plain are not worth getting on an individual basis for $147 a month. Period. Blame the OP all you want. Its the kind of links that it delivers that is the problem.

What you are saying makes absolutely no sense at all , how can you blame a tool for what it does when you are the one controlling it?

That is essentially the same thing as me joining an architecture forum and creating a thread entitled "The New Stanley Hammer Banged a Gigantic Hole In My Wall!". Like it or not a tool is a tool and you are the one who is expected to be responsible for how it is used. If I choose to swing the hammer with all of the force that I can muster and end up damaging my wall am I right to blame the tool? Or do I take the blame for not knowing what I am doing with tool and misusing it thus causing damage to my property? Senuke has 1000s of users paying the monthly fee for it so it obviously HAS to work when used properly by people who have a full and complete understanding of SEO.

This is really simple and you disagreeing with it only brings to point that your main agenda here in this thread is to do obvious promotion of one of the various links in your sig by downing tools like Senuke while telling the op "You could build yourself a nice SEO network over the next year with the funds and once you learn how to leverage it end up with real links even beyond the aged domains you buy." You my friend are bogus and totally obvious at the same time. Stop marketing and start giving some real helpful advise for a change...