![]() | | ||||||||
| | #1 |
| SEO Expert & Developer War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 43
Thanks: 2
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
|
This is interesting, and I'm trying to find some info on it from Google or Matt Cutts. Basically, do you feel the Average Time On Site count towards your SERP? If anyone has any articles on this, feel free to share. I've noticed recently some of my pages are ranking for the wrong keywords, thus getting a lower Average Time on Site result in analytics. Naturally I want Google to stop ranking me for these keywords, and at a guess I'd say they are using it as the information is not relevant for the user on those keywords. Anymore on this topic? |
| My Toolbox: Article Marketing Robot, SENukeX, ScrapeBox, Market Samurai and Micro Niche Finder.
| |
| | |
| | #2 |
| MarketingFool.com Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 169
Thanks: 8
Thanked 22 Times in 18 Posts
|
Google definitely uses bounce rates as a ranking factor....time on site is close to the same thing so I don't see why they wouldn't use it. Not sure I've read anything specifically on this though... That's why I never never never use Google analytics on my adsense websites. Google will use your analytics data to make ranking decisions... Adsense sites are built to get people to click an advertisement and LEAVE your site...so a successful adsense site will be a site with a high bounce rate and low time on site number... which will penalize your rankings...it's an insane catch 22. Make it as hard for Google to indentify time on site and bounce rate as you can by not using Google analytics... end crazy rant. |
| $0 to $4,000 per month in Adsense Income...follow my Adsense Journey for free at MarketingFool.com | |
| | |
| | #3 |
| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: USA
Posts: 1,871
Thanks: 403
Thanked 391 Times in 325 Posts
|
I haven't read anything about it but I have very short times on my landing pages and I use google analytics and my sites are ranking on page one in some pretty competitive keywords so I think it must be with enough other good factors, it must not be such a big deal.
|
| How To Build A List-Newbies Friendly - Keyword Research | Targeted Traffic Free | Killer Squeeze Pages Advice To New Warrior Members | |
| | |
| | #4 |
| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,017
Thanks: 6
Thanked 294 Times in 172 Posts
|
Nobody can be sure what "Google definitely does"! The truth is a High Bounce and Low Time on Site isn't always a bad thing. You can have a page that provides EXACTLY what the reader is looking for ...then that reader wouldn't have a reason to go elsewhere. A good example is the "what is my ip address" keyword. Guess whatismyaddress.com's bounce rate & time on site? Are they suffering in rankings? |
| | |
| | #5 |
| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 365
Thanks: 1
Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts
|
I think it would affect , higher average time on site mean that your content quality is better. If you do not have quality website will cause lot of bounce rate due to average on site low. |
| | |
| | |
| | #6 | |
| MarketingFool.com Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 169
Thanks: 8
Thanked 22 Times in 18 Posts
| Quote:
But if your site is on the thinnish side, which many adsense sites are...then it's definitely something to keep in mind... | |
| $0 to $4,000 per month in Adsense Income...follow my Adsense Journey for free at MarketingFool.com | ||
| | |
| | #7 |
| MarketingFool.com Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 169
Thanks: 8
Thanked 22 Times in 18 Posts
| Oh I don't know...when google announces or suggests that they're using bounce rates as a ranking factor, and then I start to see hundreds of my sites with high bounce rates take a big dip in the rankings....and then when I remove Google analytics and slowly start to see those sites struggle back *shrugs* I'll amend my statement to "Google definitely seems to take..." :-P
|
| $0 to $4,000 per month in Adsense Income...follow my Adsense Journey for free at MarketingFool.com | |
| | |
| | #8 |
| New Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 102
Thanks: 0
Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
|
Low Average Time On Site and high Bounce rate, it is bad use experience. Let alone SEO |
|
So crazy about NBA Events. So crazy for Chinese Knots and Wholesale Chinese Products. So cazy about Tourism Items So cazy about Toy Bus Model | |
| | |
| | #9 | |
| MarketingFool.com Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 169
Thanks: 8
Thanked 22 Times in 18 Posts
| Quote:
The user found exactly what they wanted (cheap deals on the vacuum cleaner they want), I got paid for them clicking on the ad....everyone is happy! Except Google...google thinks that was a bad user experience! Go figure... | |
| $0 to $4,000 per month in Adsense Income...follow my Adsense Journey for free at MarketingFool.com | ||
| | |
| | #10 | |
| Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Orange County, Ca
Posts: 82
Thanks: 5
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
| Quote:
However, it is not going to completely wreck a sites ranking if they have a low average time on the site. | |
| | ||
| | |
| | #11 | |
| MarketingFool.com Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 169
Thanks: 8
Thanked 22 Times in 18 Posts
| Quote:
Yeah but in my example, Google gets paid too....because that visitor is clicking on a Google ad. In your example, Google doesn't earn a penny. Which says more about why sites like mine rank and will continue to rank, me thinks.... ;-) | |
| $0 to $4,000 per month in Adsense Income...follow my Adsense Journey for free at MarketingFool.com | ||
| | |
| | #12 |
| Plundering the Web War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: , , .
Posts: 4,851
Thanks: 804
Thanked 1,200 Times in 887 Posts
|
What they like to measure, and something they can measure, is the rate at someone clicks back to the search results after clicking on your site, from the search results. The other stuff is pure speculation, as they would have to have some worldwide tracking of servers. Something I don't think is possible. Like they care about how much time someone spends on a trillion sites? Measured by who? What? Where? Google analytics? Sure, but I'll bet 99.9999% of the sites worldwide do not use GA. So...if someone gets to your site then goes to make a cup of coffee....you go up in rank?!? Here's a tip. On the main page of your site, put a sign up, front and center. "Please leave browser window open on my site for 10 minutes. Help me rank in google." Sound silly? Exactly. Google ranks pages, not domains anyway. And who stays on a page very long anyway? Longer article means higher rank? Because people read it? Fat chance. Paul |
| How to Make Money off Facebook: Login to your account. Deactivate your account. Get your butt to work.
| |
| | |
| | #13 |
| Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: US of A
Posts: 2,190
Thanks: 47
Thanked 258 Times in 212 Posts
|
The answer from everything I've read is YES it is a factor. The question is "To what extent". Anything that Google measures in Google Analytics is a potential ranking factor... the question again is what is the weight used in the Alogrithum? |
| | |
| | |
| | #14 | |
| The Silent Watcher War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 102
Thanks: 18
Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts
| Quote:
Google Analytics is not a bad thing. I don't really see how it would hurt you, since you already have a piece of their code anyway (AdSense units), so they can see whatever interests them anyway. | |
| | |
| | #15 |
| L'il Rascal Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 332
Thanks: 89
Thanked 40 Times in 35 Posts
|
Google Analytics is not only tool with which they can track the bounce rate of a particular website, they can also use cookies when people search from their engine to track the bounce rate. May be they are already doing it.
|
| Projection of your subconscious. - Cobb | |
| | |
| | #16 |
| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Posts: 287
Thanks: 43
Thanked 110 Times in 77 Posts
|
Okay, well if we're going by what Google says they do NOT use GA to influence rankings - Period. However, bounce rate? You betcha. What they CAN see with their little cookies is how long it took the user to see your website, and if they returned to the search page afterwards and how long it took them to do so, hence how Google generates it's own bounce rate figures outside of GA.
|
| Content Knights - The Holy Grail of Writing Services | |
| | |
| | #17 |
| SEO Expert & Developer War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 43
Thanks: 2
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
|
I am pretty sure a number of the people posting silly responses about "low avg. time on sit e is a bad user experience" cannot read properly. Did I not say I am ranking for additional keywords that I do not want to rank for which are unrelated to my site? Is that not in my post above? I appreciate all the other posts that attribute to this discussion. I am going to ask Matt Cutts about this, maybe he'll answer my question in a video. |
| My Toolbox: Article Marketing Robot, SENukeX, ScrapeBox, Market Samurai and Micro Niche Finder.
| |
| | |
![]() |
|
| Tags |
| avg, factor, ranking, site, time |
| Thread Tools | |
| |
![]() |