Devastated. HELP!!! Page fell from #3 on Google to #14. Adsense earnings destroyed!

[Greenfatman]

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Actually, it's not that hard, it just takes more work than using some push button SEO system or blanketing the internet with garbage for trashy backlinks.




That is complete and utter bull****. Google could care less if your site ranks or not. In fact, the more people struggle to gain rankings, the more likely they will turn to PPC ads instead which is where Google really makes their moeny.

Yes Google doesn't care about you, but it cares about people staying more time on Google.
Always will be 10 sites on the first page to people click on, why not would google care????
If google just cares about adwords, the first page would be just adsense sites on any keyword.
Google wants value, where people can go to the site and find great info or purchase right products.

[OpenMindsEnt]

Thanks again all, I think my backlinks were indeed, devalued. Tons of great info in this thread, I will be back at my home to read the rest and respond.

Again, very much appreciated! Talk soon...

Tim

[MaverickUK]

Wow, some of the people commenting in this thread must of been smoking crack prior to posting, for that I'm almost certain.

[jimnastics]

So.... did your site bounce back??

[zharfan]

wow amazing. i still learn

[himanuzo]

You need more high quality backlinks!

[outwest]

Originally Posted by yukon

OP, whatever you do don't give up on that keyword!

Pulling in $22 a day on your first site/page is very good, considering that was when the page was sitting at position #3 in the SERPs. I wouldn't be surprised If position #1 in the SERPs for that keyword hit $40+ per day.

1) Build a few more internal pages (5 or so) & point internal keyword anchor-text links at the page that was ranking in the SERPs at position #3. Make the new pages include the keyword you used on the old page be included in the new page titles/URLs.

2) Build 10+ high PR5+ external backlinks at the old page that was ranking at position #3.

3) Build a few quality links pointing at the new supporting pages.

#1should get 4x the traffic that number 3 gets so theoretically $80/day for number 1

how many local exact searches monthly for this term?

[Tom L]

Originally Posted by TheFBGuy

FraserC: Not attacking you, I commended you on your thread of ranking without any backlinks and what you have done with your universe today website. But... terrible advice in this thread, it's not "almost impossible" to recover from Panda or any algorithmic change Google makes. Furthermore, NO ONE is immune or will always be immune to Google's crazy and unpredictable algorithm.

Also that Google Webmaster Central forum is a terrible place to be if you are an "internet marketer", and for that reason alone, I wouldn't advice anyone to people seek counsel there, lol...

OP: Welcome to the Google Dance, you are sitting on a little money maker so continue building links!

He got that site ranking without any backlinks? Did you actually go and look at it... lol

WF advice is good for a good laugh.

Regards,

TomL

[Cantbedone!]

Originally Posted by FraserC

@TheFBGuy - Good point, noted. I've looked at a LOT of sites hit by Panda it seems difficult to rehabilitate a stricken site, but if your experience is different, I'm happy to go with your experience instead.

Regarding GWC, totally disagree. I'd say that group is the most capable technical SEOs around. They can diagnose canonical errors, robots.txt, duplicate content, etc. and have very good advice.

If your site has taken a huge drop, it could just be a technical SEO problem with an easy fix. So they would be the first community I'd reach out to.

So, to clarify. They would be a good resource for legit onsite SEO issues.

For off site SEO or problems related to backlinking, not so much...

[Cantbedone!]

Originally Posted by Greenfatman

Yes Fraser is right....

If would be easy come back from the panda strike, it wouldn't be a lot of people complaining, it wouldn't be alot of fuzz and comments all around the net.
So please guys don't try to be smatter here, but realistic.It's hard if not impossible to reach back again.

I've never been on webmaster tool forum, but why in the earth they wouldn't like to help you????

Google wants you make right things on your site, so people can come in constantly, enjoy your site and click on the ads and google will make money....

So I agree again with Frase.

Regards,

Completely not impossible! Panda is about content so yeah, if you had weak content, you have some work to do. So get better content and continue to work your sites back to where they were. people are complaining because they had weak content sites and they don't want to do the work to bring them back. By the way "people complaining" is never a strong argument. People complain about everything!

I have sites that took a hit and are currently very close to being right back where they were before the hit. It just takes work and time. Anyone who says it is impossible hasn't tried very hard.

Hell, there hasn't even been enough time passed since panda to claim that recovery is not possible.

..."oh well, I gave it a month, didnt work, guess its not possible...ho hum..woe is me..."


You can't be serious.

[TSprocket]

I unfortunately was also hit by the most recent algorithm update. I had many keywords ranked within the top ten that plunged; some to the point where they are no longer ranked.

I was primarily using an automated link builder, BMR, and UAW to build links. The keywords that I was using for the automated link builder were penalized the most, followed by BMR, and then UAW.

I immediately cancelled by automated link builder subscription, and have hired a contractor to post blogs on BMR that are more relevant to the selected keyword. Hopefully this will help. I'm also looking to build more manual links to the site.

I haven't decided at this point if UAW is worth keeping or not. I may try it for a while to see if I can increase the ranking of some of my keywords and ditch it in a month or two if I haven't made any progress.

Any other software programs that I should consideror just focus on the above?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Tony