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Old 11-13-2011, 08:52 AM   #1
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I'm having trouble deciding a niche idea. In fact, I've been brainstorming for 2 months . I was hoping to get my niche started this weekend while Godaddy was selling $1.00 domains but missed my window of opportunity.

So I guess, I'm just asking for some advice. I've read many of the articles here on Warrior Forums and I've learned several key things

- Careful of too much competition
- Try to get domains that match the keywords (i.e. how to play basketball = howtoplaybasketball.com)
- Avoid niches that you can't earn money on.

so my questions are

- Should I have how i'm going to make money with a site in mind BEFORE launching it? i.e. do i need to target sites that either a> have amazon products I can sell, b> have commission junction products I can cell?
- Should I just pick something and run with it?

Some of the niche ideas I've come up with include it security training (this is something i'm good at), something related to a sport (i don't know much about but think i could find products to review fairly easy) and i have another larger list..it's just difficult to find something to get started..if i can get past this point..i'm excited to start the writing and technical part!!
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It'd be a bad idea to have a website having 1 post and full of affiliate banners, no?

Get started with the website and work on building traffic, at the same time implement ads on your site, am not sure if the Godaddy sale is still on, but there are plenty of coupons available i use this site for Godaddy shopping livecodes.blogspot.com (Not Mine)

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Old 11-13-2011, 09:04 AM   #3
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Hi Swabby

Getting started is always the hardest part and for most people their first website is like a learning curve. My advice would be to go with security training as you stated you are good at if. If i were in your shoes here is what i would do.

1.) right a course on security training while doing the below

- Pick a keyword related to your niche and find as many long tail keywords relating to that keyword as possible.

- Next write around a 600+ word article on those keywords trying to include the long tail whenever possible.

- Starting back linking those pages slowly using social bookmarking, blog comments, forum posts, web 2.0 properties and article marketing. Diversity is the key.

- Rinse and repeat the above.

Once your security course is complete start by offering it for free to the first 5 people if they agree to leave a review.

Once you have reviews from real people you can not only improve it if need be but also realise it for sale with the reviews to back it up.

Basically you just need to go for it, there is only so much planning one can do

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Whatever niche you are interested in look for some keywords that get a good amount of exact monthly Google global searches as per the Google keyword tool with not a lot of competition.

Regardless of what else you put on the site, have an opt in box so that you can build a list.

I haven't used it for this but some people suggested on here that if you have trouble getting a good niche idea or keywords that convert, to buy the service on Fiverr.com.

Just make sure that you get someone with a lot of good reviews.

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Old 11-13-2011, 09:21 AM   #5
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My advise (since I wasted too much time doing what you are doing)

Dont worry about Niche
If you do Adsense you can do any niche

Concentrate on learning to research kws
do you even know how to search the top 10 google competition?
If you did you would not be concentrating on security guard training
the top site on that kw has 200,000 backlinks you will never beat it

concentrate on learning how to research kw competition before you decide to even try to choose a niche

the 5 new kws I am writing for this week?
all have like 5-10k monthly searches (exact)

each also has number 1, and 2 on google top 10 competition?
0 backlinks, and 0 backlinks...........respectively

when you can get to that point
you know you have learned well


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Old 11-13-2011, 09:55 AM   #6
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I agree with outwest about that specific keyword (security guard training).

The page I see at #1 is very serious about ranking that keyword phrase, he has 190 pages with the exact keyword phrase in the page titles. I didn't check backlinks.

intitle:"security guard training" site:securityguardtraininghq.com

Still If security is your passion, I have no doubts that plenty of other related keywords would be a lot less work to rank in the SERPs, you just have to do the research & be realistic. You don't want to spend 6 months trying to rank a keyword that gets 1k search per month.

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i do understand, please strive hard and always visit this forum to get best of ideas from succesful warriors
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Old 11-13-2011, 10:42 AM   #8
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I have learned more from this forum in the last 2 months than I learned from other forums in 4 yrs


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I have free training on my blog that might help you focus on one critical area.
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My approaches are ALWAYS product driven. There's no point spending hours of your time and money creating sites you CANT monetize!?

E.g. find a product that has high Gravity on Clickbank and check the competition on page 1 of Google. High Gravity means high demand but also more competition in terms of ranking keywords, buying the full .com domain etc.

If you're really good at SEO and page ranking then I would skip all that and target local businesses. It's much easier to rank for keywords like "dentist in <yourtown>". Even if the keyword search is low (50 searches a month) you're target buyers with little or no competition.

That should get you started!

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I'm having trouble deciding a niche idea. In fact, I've been brainstorming for 2 months . I was hoping to get my niche started this weekend while Godaddy was selling $1.00 domains but missed my window of opportunity.

So I guess, I'm just asking for some advice. I've read many of the articles here on Warrior Forums and I've learned several key things

- Careful of too much competition
- Try to get domains that match the keywords (i.e. how to play basketball = howtoplaybasketball.com)
- Avoid niches that you can't earn money on.

so my questions are

- Should I have how i'm going to make money with a site in mind BEFORE launching it? i.e. do i need to target sites that either a> have amazon products I can sell, b> have commission junction products I can cell?
- Should I just pick something and run with it?

Some of the niche ideas I've come up with include it security training (this is something i'm good at), something related to a sport (i don't know much about but think i could find products to review fairly easy) and i have another larger list..it's just difficult to find something to get started..if i can get past this point..i'm excited to start the writing and technical part!!
here's what i think
  • dont be afraid of competition (within reason)
  • you dont need exact match domain
  • start smaller move up
and yes, make sure the keywords have high bids

i easily beat people with EMD it counts for nothing

example

coolmotorcyclehelmet.com

i will just register coolmotorcycleguy.com and use a single page like "coolmotorcycleguy.com/helmet.html" to outrank him. done easily.

of course, theres no such niche of mine its just an example

in fact, one of the recent "EMD" sites i beat got dropped to spot 6 or 7 that used to be #1 while i'm at spot #1 now. idk why EMD is even still around.

you mentioned security training.. here's what my 1 minute research came up with.



here's what i would do

1) register SecurityTraining-----.com
2) write a 800word or so homepage (static)
3) write 5-6 pages 500-600words each
4) write down exactly the pages that each keywords i'm ranking for.. for example, "cyber security training" i would just link to SecurityTraining-----.com/cyber.html and so on. but the main keywords would stay to your homepage
5) write some ezinearticles, goarticles, articlesbase, post some stuff on wordpress.com, blogger, google knol, multiply, and other social network places
6) give it a little rest to wait for your pages to get indexed
7) after index, start more backlink building and keep at it until you're spot 1

later, of course, you can build a list, push products, blah blah blah. dont get into that now.

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I just wanted to say thank you everyone that responded. EVERYONE added something that is going to help me out and I really appreciate it! It's awesome having such a great group here. Now i'm excited to get started!
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The best thing you can do is JUST start...

On the way you will learn what works and what not.

What makes you money, what not...

And step by step you are becoming an PRO...

(and then you are not excited anymore, but boring that everything you jump in works like a charm...)
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I have learned more from this forum in the last 2 months than I learned from other forums in 4 yrs
Lol, really...? Good, good for you.
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I may have some helpfull advice in my Free training traffic creation that will help you.Adding content to my blog daily that will help with niche research.
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I'm having trouble deciding a niche idea. In fact, I've been brainstorming for 2 months . I was hoping to get my niche started this weekend while Godaddy was selling $1.00 domains but missed my window of opportunity.

So I guess, I'm just asking for some advice. I've read many of the articles here on Warrior Forums and I've learned several key things

- Careful of too much competition
- Try to get domains that match the keywords (i.e. how to play basketball = howtoplaybasketball.com)
- Avoid niches that you can't earn money on.

so my questions are

- Should I have how i'm going to make money with a site in mind BEFORE launching it? i.e. do i need to target sites that either a> have amazon products I can sell, b> have commission junction products I can cell?
- Should I just pick something and run with it?

Some of the niche ideas I've come up with include it security training (this is something i'm good at), something related to a sport (i don't know much about but think i could find products to review fairly easy) and i have another larger list..it's just difficult to find something to get started..if i can get past this point..i'm excited to start the writing and technical part!!
Avoid this forum and taking advice from people with diff. Answers. Instead, read up on some blogs that will offer you everthing you need for free. Youll lose lots of money on this forum if you listen to what some people say and buy all the worthless wso. Be smart like me and read up on blogs. I new nothing avout seo or IM 3 months ago. I found this forum, said hell with this, found some useful blog articles. Now i havw 22 sites bringing we in 2,000 a month. Just research and learn as much as you can, stay out the forums, and you will have a head start.
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Avoid this forum and taking advice from people with diff. Answers. Instead, read up on some blogs that will offer you everthing you need for free. Youll lose lots of money on this forum if you listen to what some people say and buy all the worthless wso. Be smart like me and read up on blogs. I new nothing avout seo or IM 3 months ago. I found this forum, said hell with this, found some useful blog articles. Now i havw 22 sites bringing we in 2,000 a month. Just research and learn as much as you can, stay out the forums, and you will have a head start.
I realize a lot of spam flows into this forum, still some of us are more than willing to help others with or without a WSO.

Do you really think every single blog would agree how to do the same task?

Everyone has their own opinions on how to do certain things. I already know seo & have had my own sites for at least 5-years. Still I learn something new on these forums every single day I'm here, you can't get live feedback on a blog.

If this forum is such a disappointment for you, why are you here now?

I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ I'm just curious.
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I realize a lot of spam flows into this forum, still some of us are more than willing to help others with or without a WSO.

Do you really think every single blog would agree how to do the same task?

Everyone has their own opinions on how to do certain things. I already know seo & have had my own sites for at least 5-years. Still I learn something new on these forums every single day I'm here, you can't get live feedback on a blog.

If this forum is such a disappointment for you, why are you here now?

I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ I'm just curious.
a few months ago i even posted that 90 percent of this forum is just newbies

Now I do not think that
I have now determined that sure there are a lot of newbies here but
there are so many knowledgeable members here who REALLY know their stuff that this forum is like an encyclopedia for webmastering and marketing

and its all business no bull****ting all the time allowed which is great too

I have found no other forum on the net that has so many people with as much information as this forum
this forum is king


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Have a look at google insight which will tell you what is hot and not.
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