Is it worth it building backlinks that aren't publicly viewable

OMichael · 11-18-2011, 06:10 AM

I think I already know the answer to these, but just to be sure...

Is it worth it building backlinks that aren't publicly viewable? Where one has to login in order to see the backlinks?

Am i correct in assuming that even search engines won't be able to crawl/index these backlinks and at such not worth taking the time to build?

Lastly, is there a way to force such links to be viewable to the search engines without loging in?

TheJustWarrior · 11-18-2011, 06:18 AM

Dont believe everything you read. Backlinks is such a hilarious concept. People actually pay for backlinks for rankings.

Research deeper if you want to get good seo...backlinks is the cover story, read the fine print.

krishacetravison · 11-18-2011, 08:19 AM

It depends. But those websites are more likely to give you more value since they are not attacked by blatant spammers IMO. Links that come from them can give you better results in my experience. However, since those sites are not publicly viewable, you have less chance of getting a good number of traffic "from those websites".

It is not also true that they are not crawlable by search engines. It doesn't actually mean that a link that comes from a website that is not publicly viewable is not crawlable by search engines.

Even if you are not log in, those links will definitely be crawled by search engines.

MikeFriedman · 11-18-2011, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMichael

Am i correct in assuming that even search engines won't be able to crawl/index these backlinks and at such not worth taking the time to build?

Lastly, is there a way to force such links to be viewable to the search engines without loging in?

Yes you are correct, and no there is no way to make them viewable.

bermuda · 11-18-2011, 08:26 AM

On some websites and internet communities, the links added to the posts will be only viewable by people and the members who are already logged in and naturally, search engines robots will not find and count them. They can be similar to the AdWords units which although contain clickable addresses of websites and internet pages, but since they are not direct links, so they would not have any impacts on overall rankings of the sites and business portals in the cyber world.

Having said that, from traffic-generating perspective, some links packs could be still beneficial because although they may remain hidden to most search engines and net crawling robots, but since they are viewed by a lot of visitors and readers on a constant basis, so they could absorb lots of clicks, leading to page views and enhanced traffic shares. It seems scripts and web codes would be controlling the way those links are loading on the web spots you are referring to.

App Developers · 11-18-2011, 08:27 AM

I have thought that it was not worth it if you had to log in to see the back link. You can test it out. Add your back links and see if it is indexed. If I have a doubt I usually just test it out and see. No harm in that.

AndyBlackSEO · 11-18-2011, 08:43 AM

If a human can't access the page where these links are placed without login details... there is no possible way Google could acces it. Otherwise this would raise 'serious' security issues all round

Andy

nahids · 11-18-2011, 09:09 AM

I also agree to those comment. Google will not indexed log in linkt that links is not public.

LinkVariety · 11-18-2011, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyBlackSEO

If a human can't access the page where these links are placed without login details... there is no possible way Google could acces it. Otherwise this would raise 'serious' security issues all round

Andy

That is not strictly true. Take a paid forum for example. These forums allow google to index the content to attract traffic, but when you visit the page it will tell you to subscribe to get the information.

For the most part however this holds true PARTICULARLY FOR LINK PLACEMENT where blocking search engines from indexing links is an anti spam measure.

One way to test is to use Google Translate to "translate" that page from English to English, if Google returns the page you know it can access it. This does not always work either...

Another way is to check the cache of the site in google, not necesarrily on your own page, but see if any other restricted pages are blocked using a query like:

"inurl:domain.com/restricted/path/"

Again, for the most part you are right, and logged in pages are completely locked down... Im just pointing out that there are exceptions to this.

OMichael · 11-22-2011, 04:57 AM

Great. Many thanks for your input all.

shailender · 11-22-2011, 05:18 AM

I too learned something here, thanks for such useful replies and yes question too.

Daniel Wilson · 11-22-2011, 05:43 AM

If they can get indexed they will count.

Simply try to use "site:" to find a page in Google you are trying to link from. If you can find then there is a good possibility that the link will get indexed.

stellaandreapark · 11-22-2011, 06:09 AM

It is always important to see to it that backlinks are publicly viewable. There is no use building links that search engine spiders can't crawl.

11-18-2011, 06:10 AM	#1
OMichael Active Warrior Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Contact Info	Is it worth it building backlinks that aren't publicly viewable I think I already know the answer to these, but just to be sure... Is it worth it building backlinks that aren't publicly viewable? Where one has to login in order to see the backlinks? Am i correct in assuming that even search engines won't be able to crawl/index these backlinks and at such not worth taking the time to build? Lastly, is there a way to force such links to be viewable to the search engines without loging in?

11-18-2011, 06:18 AM	#2
TheJustWarrior Always On Call Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 109 Thanks: 12 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Is it worth it building backlinks that aren't publicly viewable Dont believe everything you read. Backlinks is such a hilarious concept. People actually pay for backlinks for rankings. Research deeper if you want to get good seo...backlinks is the cover story, read the fine print.

11-18-2011, 08:19 AM	#3
krishacetravison Active Warrior Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 65 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Is it worth it building backlinks that aren't publicly viewable It depends. But those websites are more likely to give you more value since they are not attacked by blatant spammers IMO. Links that come from them can give you better results in my experience. However, since those sites are not publicly viewable, you have less chance of getting a good number of traffic "from those websites". It is not also true that they are not crawlable by search engines. It doesn't actually mean that a link that comes from a website that is not publicly viewable is not crawlable by search engines. Even if you are not log in, those links will definitely be crawled by search engines.

11-18-2011, 08:26 AM	#5
bermuda HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 235 Thanks: 1 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Is it worth it building backlinks that aren't publicly viewable On some websites and internet communities, the links added to the posts will be only viewable by people and the members who are already logged in and naturally, search engines robots will not find and count them. They can be similar to the AdWords units which although contain clickable addresses of websites and internet pages, but since they are not direct links, so they would not have any impacts on overall rankings of the sites and business portals in the cyber world. Having said that, from traffic-generating perspective, some links packs could be still beneficial because although they may remain hidden to most search engines and net crawling robots, but since they are viewed by a lot of visitors and readers on a constant basis, so they could absorb lots of clicks, leading to page views and enhanced traffic shares. It seems scripts and web codes would be controlling the way those links are loading on the web spots you are referring to.
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11-18-2011, 09:09 AM	#8
nahids Active Warrior Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 60 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Contact Info	Re: Is it worth it building backlinks that aren't publicly viewable I also agree to those comment. Google will not indexed log in linkt that links is not public.

11-22-2011, 04:57 AM	#10
OMichael Active Warrior Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Contact Info	Re: Is it worth it building backlinks that aren't publicly viewable Great. Many thanks for your input all.

11-22-2011, 05:18 AM	#11
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11-22-2011, 06:09 AM	#13
stellaandreapark Active Warrior Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Is it worth it building backlinks that aren't publicly viewable It is always important to see to it that backlinks are publicly viewable. There is no use building links that search engine spiders can't crawl.