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Old 11-21-2011, 04:13 AM   #1
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For the past few months one of my sites has been doing great (first and second page of Google) for 3 weeks and then dropping down to the 500-800 range for three weeks and then it repeats the process. (Clarification: This site is over 2 years old with around 6,000 backlinks.)

The entire site has been cycling like this. All pages go down at the same time and then come back.

During this time, I have done continuous, diverse backlinking that should not be setting off any "red flags".

Has anyone else been experiencing this?

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Old 11-21-2011, 04:18 AM   #2
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Yes, this is completely normal when you do link building especially to new sites.
It moves around the serps... sometimes mildly, sometimes wildly...before settling in an established position in the rankings.

It's called...(Aah I hate to even say the term anymore)...Google Dance.
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Old 11-21-2011, 04:35 AM   #3
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This happens to me.. but not more than 5th page..I think this happens due to the lack of backlinks. Google always like links from new URL's. If we failed to create new links/contents I think this happens. But when you keep on building links..our site will be back to the prior position.

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Yeah google dance

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Old 11-21-2011, 05:54 AM   #5
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when google update its index .sites rank increase and decrease for short period of time.
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Old 11-21-2011, 06:22 AM   #6
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This site is almost 2 years old with currently over 6,000 backlinks. It started this "dancing" about 6 months ago.

I thought it would have settled down by now.

I might understand it dancing with one page, but the entire site?
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Old 11-21-2011, 06:39 AM   #7
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Default Re: Have you seen this on your site?

I have experienced lot in this thing that some day it will go to second page but it wont go more than second page, then it will come into first page as usual. I could understand that i was not doing building for more than one month, so my site's some keywords went to tenth page in G SE.

Most of the changes happening by back links and SERP . Thats why we need to do link building with highly reputed site or high page rank sites in continually. By calculating this back link, keyword dancing along with the Google Algorithm.

Not only for yous but all the keywords will go back and come front by your quality work. If your keywords continually go back means you need to take some more care for your link building work along with a experts.

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Old 11-21-2011, 06:50 AM   #8
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Not only for yous but all the keywords will go back and come front by your quality work. If your keywords continually go back means you need to take some more care for your link building work along with a experts.
So, you are saying the quality of backlinks could cause this for the entire site?
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:18 AM   #9
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I would expect a site to bounce within the first 3 months or so (maybe six??), but would this still happen after a year?
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:25 AM   #10
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yup.. the dance happen specially if you change your site theme (for wordpress blogs)
AHA! Yes, I changed my site's theme (Wordpress) not long before all of this started. I didn't realized Google would care since the underlying content did not change.
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:33 AM   #11
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Assuming the dance may have been started because of a Wordpress theme change, any experience on how long this will last?

To me, three months of bouncing seems like a long time.
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There are some scenarios happen than even a 10 year old site can be affected by Google dance. If you think that you're doing the right thing in optimizing your site, then you have nothing to worry about.
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There are some scenarios happen than even a 10 year old site can be affected by Google dance. If you think that you're doing the right thing in optimizing your site, then you have nothing to worry about.
Thanks. I guess I just need to know there is an end in site. I don't like the idea of dumping more and more time and money into this site if it is going to keep doing this forever. It will never be profitable until it stabilizes.
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What is the longest you've seen an established (1+ year) site dance?
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There are a couple of reasons this could be happening:

1) Aggressive link building can get your site temporarily filtered. Depending on what you did it can take a couple of weeks to a few months to come back

2) You have a high bounce rate / low time on site etc. Google uses these metrics to assess quality. If you have a site with good links etc that "should rank" Google will "test your site" from time to time giving it a stronger rank, but if click through / bounce rate etc indicate to Google that your site is "low quality" then it will drop again.

Ref point 2, I have seen this a few times, the most notable was a competitors site that was bought out. Prior to the sale it looked really spammy and used to bounce around all the time. After it changed hands it was cleaned up and from then on held its position.

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2) You have a high bounce rate / low time on site etc. Google uses these metrics to assess quality. If you have a site with good links etc that "should rank" Google will "test your site" from time to time giving it a stronger rank, but if click through / bounce rate etc indicate to Google that your site is "low quality" then it will drop again.
What would you consider a high bounce rate?
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For the past few months one of my sites has been doing great (first and second page of Google) for 3 weeks and then dropping down to the 500-800 range for three weeks and then it repeats the process. (Clarification: This site is over 2 years old with around 6,000 backlinks.)

The entire site has been cycling like this. All pages go down at the same time and then come back.

During this time, I have done continuous, diverse backlinking that should not be setting off any "red flags".

Has anyone else been experiencing this?
This is very normal with new domains and low authority domains. It's called google dance

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Old 11-21-2011, 12:32 PM   #18
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i do not know proper reason but i m 99% sure this is Google dance same as with me past 2 week comes gone.i hope stable soon or please read more posting in this forum i m sure help you a lots.

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