No Conversion's

billuk3 · 11-22-2011, 03:41 PM

I really need some advice I have followed many wso I started building affiliate sites march this year.
My sites range from 3rd to 9th on google's first page I have broad keywords
Like anti cellulite 4th on google ,lip plumper 4th on google.3 card poker 4th on google.
and about 6 other sites .
I have not had one sale As these sites are coming up for renewal I am wondering to carry on.
Is there a massive difference from ranking 4th to first.
Any help from you guys would go much appreciated.

here is on of my sites Anti Cellulite|The Real Working Solution To Anti Cellulite

mosthost · 11-22-2011, 03:45 PM

Those are very broad search terms. It's not clear their intention is to buy. The probably just want general info.

dadamson · 11-22-2011, 03:49 PM

BROAD BROAD BROAD!

That's why you are NOT making conversions.

Your keywords are "ok", but borderline broad. Conversion rate won't be too high anyway.

After looking at your site I see a lot of text, the writing quality is "ok" and the ad placement is "ok", but nothing makes me want to click on one of those ads. To be honest my eyes glazed over them as I read about what I came to read about.

Your text didn't actually say anything like "to get rid of cellulite you need to try this cream", it basically told me about cellulite and that I should probably do something about it.

Nothing is focused and although you are providing content you are not providing a call to action.

The traffic greatly increases when your keywords are on 1-3 in Google. Anything other than that will not even get a quarter of the searchers on that keyword.

Why not rank for the keywords of the actual products you are promoting? of more buyer-focused keywords like "best cellulite cream", etc? That TARGET your article towards creating excitment from your product and selling it.

You are so close, don't give up now because your $10 domains will expire.... how serious are you about making money online?

cheers,

EvanHinrichsen · 11-22-2011, 04:53 PM

I'm having a similar problem with my site. I'm trying to increase the conversions but find that it is imperative to rank for some broad keywords.

Haven't come up with a good answer just yet. Possibly check your landing page design and see if it is appealing enough for people to want to buy!

billuk3 · 11-22-2011, 05:20 PM

ok some sites are broad I also have sites that are longtail product based Colon Cleanse Bowtrol they dont convert either .
So should I get article written (because I stink at writing) more salesy.

Thanks dadamson for taking a look

dadamson · 11-22-2011, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvanHinrichsen

I'm having a similar problem with my site. I'm trying to increase the conversions but find that it is imperative to rank for some broad keywords.

Haven't come up with a good answer just yet. Possibly check your landing page design and see if it is appealing enough for people to want to buy!

^ You need to read my reply above.

billuk3 - More "salesy" is not always the answer. Just research the product in question and write something a little more reflective of the product and perhaps a little persuasion to buy.

Try braking up your first and second paragraph with an affiliate link that says something like "If you want to cure XYZ fast then you should definitely check out XYZ" - Monitor the clicks you get here in comparison to your other ads.

Test, test, test!

Becker13 · 11-22-2011, 05:32 PM

Your site is also way to generic to really target any specific person. If your going to be ranking for stuff like this, make a header that grabs a very specific type of person.

If you sites is about cellulite have a big header that lists three benefits your site would have to people with the problem

- Simple ways to cut out your leg fat
-The tools that saved my beach body in 2 weeeks
-etc

Like think about what a random google visitor thinks when they come on your page

Hmmm cellulites reviews....errr....why would a site review cellulite and how does this apply to me...oh look a facebook message *gone forever*

Think about people that visit your site, find out their problems and then make a page that say HEY THIS APPLIES TO YOU.

This page right now only applies to the most desperate of people with this problem.

Learn some stuff about conversions and copy writing and you can easily convert this traffic dude.

stevenalowe · 11-25-2011, 03:33 PM

dadamson is right - and i would add that if you are sending PPC visitors to the main page of your web site, you are distracting them with too many options.

niche down. narrow your focus. solve a specific problem, and craft a landing page that addresses just that problem. Talk about the benefits to the visitor of the product, and boldly ask for the sale. Don't put anything else on the page except your engaging text and buy button.

Metrics like bounce rate and time-on-site are nearly worthless if the landing page has twenty different distractions on it.

good luck!

yukon · 11-25-2011, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billuk3

I really need some advice I have followed many wso I started building affiliate sites march this year.
My sites range from 3rd to 9th on google's first page I have broad keywords
Like anti cellulite 4th on google ,lip plumper 4th on google.3 card poker 4th on google.
and about 6 other sites .
I have not had one sale As these sites are coming up for renewal I am wondering to carry on.
Is there a massive difference from ranking 4th to first.
Any help from you guys would go much appreciated.

here is on of my sites Anti Cellulite|The Real Working Solution To Anti Cellulite

Your #194 for the keyword anti cellulite.

If you think your #4 I guarantee your getting personalized SERP results based on your browser history.

Use Google Chrome Incognito browser when checking your keywords in Google Search, it doesn't save browser history. Also don't login to anything when checking keywords in the SERPs.

iDoubLe001 · 11-25-2011, 07:01 PM

It's all about getting niche-ier with your niches! Good luck.

billuk3 · 11-26-2011, 01:57 PM

No it was 4th it dropped down a few days late due to heavy link building
I use serp attacks not my browser

Quote:

Originally Posted by yukon

Your #194 for the keyword anti cellulite.

If you think your #4 I guarantee your getting personalized SERP results based on your browser history.

Use Google Chrome Incognito browser when checking your keywords in Google Search, it doesn't save browser history. Also don't login to anything when checking keywords in the SERPs.

lovboa · 11-26-2011, 02:25 PM

I think the best way to test is PPC at first. I targeted a keyword that is very competitive and was getting very good CTR on adsense from this keyword. I wasn't ranking when I first started, but I had a $100 adwords coupon and I used it to put myself at the top of Google page when someone searched for that keyword.

Because it was so competitive, I decided to go for an easier keyword, but very very similar in meaning. I am ranking on first page now, but the CTR on that keyword is very low. Because I am on first page I am getting the close to the same number of visitors as I was when I set up the adwords account for the other keyword.

I think it is a topic that doesn't come up very often on WF. When you're doing keyword research, it would be ideal if you test out the conversion rate with PPC (since you won't have any visitors at first if you're not ranking yet).
Two keywords, even though very similar in meaning, could have a large difference in how targeted your visitors will be and highly affect your CTR.

yukon · 11-26-2011, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billuk3

No it was 4th it dropped down a few days late due to heavy link building
I use serp attacks not my browser

My bad, it's #299 today, for the keyword (anti cellulite).

Do you have any data showing your getting traffic from the exact keyword?

Zero traffic equals zero sales.

BTW, regardless of what serp attacks returns, your traffic is running only popular browsers (not serp attacks). Check your browser (no cookies, history or logged into anything).

That screenshot below, the browser (Chrome Incognito) is set to 100 SERP results per page. I doubt my browser is lying.

11-22-2011, 03:45 PM	#2
mosthost Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,189 Thanks: 104 Thanked 138 Times in 122 Posts Social Networking	Re: No Conversion's Those are very broad search terms. It's not clear their intention is to buy. The probably just want general info.
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11-22-2011, 03:49 PM	#3
dadamson SEO Enthusiast War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 1,843 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 52 Thanked 345 Times in 262 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: No Conversion's BROAD BROAD BROAD! That's why you are NOT making conversions. Your keywords are "ok", but borderline broad. Conversion rate won't be too high anyway. After looking at your site I see a lot of text, the writing quality is "ok" and the ad placement is "ok", but nothing makes me want to click on one of those ads. To be honest my eyes glazed over them as I read about what I came to read about. Your text didn't actually say anything like "to get rid of cellulite you need to try this cream", it basically told me about cellulite and that I should probably do something about it. Nothing is focused and although you are providing content you are not providing a call to action. The traffic greatly increases when your keywords are on 1-3 in Google. Anything other than that will not even get a quarter of the searchers on that keyword. Why not rank for the keywords of the actual products you are promoting? of more buyer-focused keywords like "best cellulite cream", etc? That TARGET your article towards creating excitment from your product and selling it. You are so close, don't give up now because your $10 domains will expire.... how serious are you about making money online? cheers,
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11-22-2011, 05:20 PM	#5
billuk3 Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 42 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: No Conversion's ok some sites are broad I also have sites that are longtail product based Colon Cleanse Bowtrol they dont convert either . So should I get article written (because I stink at writing) more salesy. Thanks dadamson for taking a look

11-22-2011, 05:32 PM	#7
Becker13 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 322 Thanks: 25 Thanked 169 Times in 44 Posts	Re: No Conversion's Your site is also way to generic to really target any specific person. If your going to be ranking for stuff like this, make a header that grabs a very specific type of person. If you sites is about cellulite have a big header that lists three benefits your site would have to people with the problem - Simple ways to cut out your leg fat -The tools that saved my beach body in 2 weeeks -etc Like think about what a random google visitor thinks when they come on your page Hmmm cellulites reviews....errr....why would a site review cellulite and how does this apply to me...oh look a facebook message gone forever Think about people that visit your site, find out their problems and then make a page that say HEY THIS APPLIES TO YOU. This page right now only applies to the most desperate of people with this problem. Learn some stuff about conversions and copy writing and you can easily convert this traffic dude.
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11-25-2011, 03:33 PM	#8
stevenalowe Innovator War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: TN/AR Posts: 89 Thanks: 21 Thanked 22 Times in 20 Posts	Re: No Conversion's dadamson is right - and i would add that if you are sending PPC visitors to the main page of your web site, you are distracting them with too many options. niche down. narrow your focus. solve a specific problem, and craft a landing page that addresses just that problem. Talk about the benefits to the visitor of the product, and boldly ask for the sale. Don't put anything else on the page except your engaging text and buy button. Metrics like bounce rate and time-on-site are nearly worthless if the landing page has twenty different distractions on it. good luck!

11-22-2011, 03:41 PM	#1
billuk3 Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 42 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	No Conversion's I really need some advice I have followed many wso I started building affiliate sites march this year. My sites range from 3rd to 9th on google's first page I have broad keywords Like anti cellulite 4th on google ,lip plumper 4th on google.3 card poker 4th on google. and about 6 other sites . I have not had one sale As these sites are coming up for renewal I am wondering to carry on. Is there a massive difference from ranking 4th to first. Any help from you guys would go much appreciated. here is on of my sites Anti Cellulite\|The Real Working Solution To Anti Cellulite

11-22-2011, 04:53 PM	#4
EvanHinrichsen Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 23 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: No Conversion's I'm having a similar problem with my site. I'm trying to increase the conversions but find that it is imperative to rank for some broad keywords. Haven't come up with a good answer just yet. Possibly check your landing page design and see if it is appealing enough for people to want to buy!

11-25-2011, 07:01 PM	#10
iDoubLe001 Business Minded Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: WI, USA Posts: 22 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: No Conversion's It's all about getting niche-ier with your niches! Good luck.

11-26-2011, 02:25 PM	#12
lovboa Advanced Warrior Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 741 Thanks: 119 Thanked 80 Times in 71 Posts	Re: No Conversion's I think the best way to test is PPC at first. I targeted a keyword that is very competitive and was getting very good CTR on adsense from this keyword. I wasn't ranking when I first started, but I had a $100 adwords coupon and I used it to put myself at the top of Google page when someone searched for that keyword. Because it was so competitive, I decided to go for an easier keyword, but very very similar in meaning. I am ranking on first page now, but the CTR on that keyword is very low. Because I am on first page I am getting the close to the same number of visitors as I was when I set up the adwords account for the other keyword. I think it is a topic that doesn't come up very often on WF. When you're doing keyword research, it would be ideal if you test out the conversion rate with PPC (since you won't have any visitors at first if you're not ranking yet). Two keywords, even though very similar in meaning, could have a large difference in how targeted your visitors will be and highly affect your CTR.