Do Micro Niche Adsense Sites still work

[AhmedA]

Hi,

I've seen a lot of members in the "Complete websites for sale" offering to build micro niche adsense websites that make around $1/day with google #1 guarantee. Does this really work?

So I need advice should I buy from them? Will it really make me money?

Thank you,

Ahmed Auf

[mosthost]

They can't guarantee Google income. No one can.

[Marketing Fool]

Micro niche sites can work...but no one can guarantee a number one ranking at Google.

And I would never pay someone to build a micro niche site...do it yourself, they're small easy sites to build - that's kinda the point.

I focus on thin sites myself, which is a variation on micro niche sites that I add my own spin to and make pretty good money with. You can read all about my methods for free at my website (link in sig below).

[rtailor]

If those sites are really making $1 daily with guarantee, than why don't they continue with those sites to earn and start SEO campaign to improve their earnings? This is the question.

[3000]

Niche sites do still make money I have a few that gives me 1-2 a day. To be honest though you should just learn how to build your own niche sites because once you get the correct process down you can make an endless amount of niche sites that you can sell or keep for a nice passive income.

[bbonus]

i build micro niche sites for clients as well as for myself, and they still continue to perform. don't get me wrong, though, with panda and everything else there are NEVER any guarantees that anyone can offer that they can truly stand behind. one of my personal micro niche sites continues to make $200 a day, as the content is good, and the niche is correct...

[bfas]

The days of 'single-keyword-focus' sites are over. Though some may retain their rankings, and new ones may even still work, they are one of the focuses of Google's new efforts at 'cleaning up' the SERPs.

Michael

[Tony W]

They work now... I have a couple myself... but I have a feeling they're going to get demolished in a future panda update.

I also think product brand micro sites will be killed off too. Since most of these provide 0 value to the user.

[Oracle_320th]

Micro niche adsense is still alive and well. Take a look at the following case study: nichepursuits.com and adsenseflippers.com
Those two websites are made by Warrior members.
However, I will recommend you build your own micro niche websites rather than trying to buy. Your earning is more guarantee that way.

[BigNorm]

I don't entirely agree with the comments about building it yourself. I have two warriors I go to, to build sites for me which are relatively cheap. I consider this as simply outsourcing. They build it, then I add more content to it, outsourcing this process as well from Warrior Forum. I check the keywords they send me for the site and EMD to ensure they are quality and if I'm happy let them build away. They get it indexed, then I use 4 different warriors who provide backlinking services to begin moving the pages up the serps. So far it's working well and the sites are making enough to pay for themselves, backlinking and profit.

Now looking at the whole process, I actually don't do a hell of alot except addtional KW research for the additional content. The site is about 97% built and promoted using nothing but Warrior services.

[Rukshan]

Nobody can guarantee with Google. If you stick with proper SEO management with site, you can have a stable income. Still MNS works with adsense.

[MrJohns]

I saw someone on flippa a couple weeks ago selling 40 micro niche coupon websites that made them around 4k a month using adsense. I'd say they work pretty well to some degree.

[sandy11]

Learn to build it yourself, no need to pay for someone to do it.

It still works great currently, I have a few of them.

Sandy

[lovboa]

They still work, some people claim...but these are the same people losing their hair when a new Google algorithm update comes around.

[sitecontact]

They work, but they're not what they were. I read in Google's blog something like this:

The exact match domains were getting too much credit, which was not fair...

Now they simply get less credit and worse positions, but they are not completely out of the game...

[fxstay]

i think if you do it in right way it works

[sitecontact]

YEs this is the most important - to do it the right way. not spamming around and adding really valuable content. now you need more work to do to acieve earnings this way

[Welsh Warrior]

Originally Posted by sitecontact

They work, but they're not what they were. I read in Google's blog something like this:

The exact match domains were getting too much credit, which was not fair...

Now they simply get less credit and worse positions, but they are not completely out of the game...

Exactly this. They work, and work very well (I make a decent living off of them), but they are no longer simply the push button solution. It used to be you could rank with many with no backlinks and next to no articles...these days you need to build the site out a bit more (imo) and do proper SEO efforts (on and offpage)

I tested an EMD vs a nonEMD for a specific niche and found the EMD to still be easier to rank with, so there is still an advantage to them, it just takes a bit more work

But I still find the pay off worth it, so continue to grow my micro niche sites by a couple a week, whilst also trying to learn CPA/PPC so not all my eggs are in one basket

[bhuff85]

Do they work? You bet they do! However, I see a blend of both sites that have only 1 to 2 pages of content and rank well, while others have multiple pages. That's more or less a case of the level of competition (at least the way I've seen it).

My definition of "micro niche sites" would be those that have around 5 pages of solid content and cover the users search query or points them in the right direction (hence the targeted Adsense ads). At least that's how I try to build them out. So far, so good.

[AfteraDream]

I just got into them. Got 5 sites, one is starting to make money slowly(bit over a month old) others are too new yet. It's recommended to wait 90-120 days cuz that's when you can see if the site is ranking well or not. Still lots of time to wait and see the results.

I outsource content creation and linkbuilding. Setting up a site is real easy and free..

[Kakashi]

Some works , some dont.
But I would prefer for Micro niche info based instead of product based.

[bitriot]

I am still pretty new to IM (part timing it for a little over a year), but I have 3 MFA sites that make $1/day.

I think there are 2 factors here. First is that you can provide a genuinely helpful site with only a page of content. And if you do that, google will be thrilled.

Second, while people should build out any MFA site that is performing, the fact remains, for many keywords, there just isn't going to be any authority on the web.

That said, all of the good keywords that aren't for new things / products are basically gone, so the MFA game is much harder than it used to be.

For now, I try to build out my niche sites with 10 articles of good content per site as I think that is a solid keyword profile to generate enough traffic to make the whole thing work.

[bitriot]

Originally Posted by AfteraDream

I just got into them. Got 5 sites, one is starting to make money slowly(bit over a month old) others are too new yet. It's recommended to wait 90-120 days cuz that's when you can see if the site is ranking well or not. Still lots of time to wait and see the results.

I outsource content creation and linkbuilding. Setting up a site is real easy and free..

I agree with this entirely. My few MFA sites took 2-5months to start making money, but once it happens, it is great. I am not sure if that is how long it took for google to rank the site or for backlinks to show up or what.

[yukon]

Originally Posted by bitriot

That said, all of the good keywords that aren't for new things / products are basically gone, so the MFA game is much harder than it used to be.

What do you mean, the good keywords are gone?

Are you saying that since you can't get an EMD, you can't use the same keyword anyplace on a non-EMD site?

I hope that's not the way you do keyword research.

[Welsh Warrior]

Originally Posted by bitriot

That said, all of the good keywords that aren't for new things / products are basically gone, so the MFA game is much harder than it used to be.
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I disagree, I find over a dozen each and every day, but for time constraints really only do a few a week (and a few more I sell on to clients who like my work).

there are still a LOT of EMDs available

[penpoint]

Originally Posted by BigNorm

I don't entirely agree with the comments about building it yourself. I have two warriors I go to, to build sites for me which are relatively cheap. I consider this as simply outsourcing. They build it, then I add more content to it, outsourcing this process as well from Warrior Forum. I check the keywords they send me for the site and EMD to ensure they are quality and if I'm happy let them build away. They get it indexed, then I use 4 different warriors who provide backlinking services to begin moving the pages up the serps. So far it's working well and the sites are making enough to pay for themselves, backlinking and profit.

Now looking at the whole process, I actually don't do a hell of alot except addtional KW research for the additional content. The site is about 97% built and promoted using nothing but Warrior services.

In the world of franchising they call that "working on your business rather than in your business." Good business management.

[AnneE]

Originally Posted by rtailor

If those sites are really making $1 daily with guarantee, than why don't they continue with those sites to earn and start SEO campaign to improve their earnings? This is the question.

Well, that's an easy question to answer. They may need cash NOW and obviously they would have more money in hand now if they sell the site, then if they keep collecting the $1 a day. Also, generally you have to post some content occasionally to the sites to keep a decent ranking, so the sites will require some maintenance and if they have a lot, then selling some is appealing.

[discustipated]

lamo.. "all the good keywords are gone" that is utter crap..open your mind and think outside of the box. theres so many keyword and there always will be. when the next hot product comes out there will be millions more. think about iphones and kindles and all the keyword that they opened up. think about new phones on the market and so on.. i still find plenty of emd's that arnt all long and retarded like most people go after I.E. "big-table-saw-that-cuts-wood-and-leaves-no-dust.net" get outta here with that.

[pauljohnny]

It may work for some people who are really serious on updating and building links to the site and I see a lot of those still working on this everyday on the net. But for me, Id rather start an authority niche site rather than micro niche site. Cause these days, its easier to rank for than a one keyword optimized site.

[AfteraDream]

Originally Posted by pauljohnny

It may work for some people who are really serious on updating and building links to the site and I see a lot of those still working on this everyday on the net. But for me, Id rather start an authority niche site rather than micro niche site. Cause these days, its easier to rank for than a one keyword optimized site.

Who said you can't grow micro site into authority site? Authority is not about page count, if you got a great small site it can still be authority one. You can venture out into additional keywords and have a site that expands and becomes very useful for visitors.

[BigNorm]

Originally Posted by penpoint

In the world of franchising they call that "working on your business rather than in your business." Good business management.

I agree. You can have anywhere up to 10+ adsense sites built a week this way. These are my steps.

1. Hire the warriors I use to make my sites.
   
2. Once the sites are complete leave them for a couple of weeks to begin accumulating natural traffic(no backlinking).
   
3. In that time perform additional KW research for additional content.
   
4. Send keywords to my article writer with instructions on how I want the articles written to provide the best quality material for the site and readers.
   
5. Once the articles are written, add them to my wordpress sites, SEO optimized and schedule them between 3-5 days apart.
   
6. After two weeks begin backlinking using different warriors who use different methods. One warrior at a time targeting one site, main KW which has the EMD and then the internal pages.
   
7. Also begin blog network services to drip feed articles to my sites hitting targeted and non targeted but related KW's.

It's taken me a good month and half to get it working right and testing just one of my adsense sites to get it to where I'm happy with it and now it's a process of rinse and repeat. The other sites which have had very little or no work done to them are even earning adsense money and all of this from having a micro niche blog built and then adding to it myself.

More time for fishing!

[AfteraDream]

Originally Posted by BigNorm

I agree. You can have anywhere up to 10+ adsense sites built a week this way. These are my steps.

1. Hire the warriors I use to make my sites.
2. Once the sites are complete leave them for a couple of weeks to begin accumulating natural traffic(no backlinking).
3. In that time perform additional KW research for additional content.
4. Send keywords to my article writer with instructions on how I want the articles written to provide the best quality material for the site and readers.
5. Once the articles are written, add them to my wordpress sites, SEO optimized and schedule them between 3-5 days apart.
6. After two weeks begin backlinking using different warriors who use different methods. One warrior at a time targeting one site, main KW which has the EMD and then the internal pages.
7. Also begin blog network services to drip feed articles to my sites hitting targeted and non targeted but related KW's.

It's taken me a good month and half to get it working right and testing just one of my adsense sites to get it to where I'm happy with it and now it's a process of rinse and repeat. The other sites which have had very little or no work done to them are even earning adsense money and all of this from having a micro niche blog built and then adding to it myself.

More time for fishing!

You can have 10 sites a day launched! Takes me 30 mins to set up a site. The only thing holding you back can be content, but if you get it written fast by your VAs then you can be launching multiple sites a day.

You can also just buy sites from WF forum here where they will make you a site and even do initial link building. Bought one, it's hovering about 10-11th place now.. didn't do anything to it.

But you are right definitely. If you launch a site a day for a month you should be able to get part time income from them in 3-4 months. Which you can then leverage to build more sites.

[Tony W]

These sites are cool and all (I actually have a couple myself) but I recommend thinking long term. Ask yourself how much value can your microniche sites actually provide.

There's so many junk made-for-Adsense sites exact match domain sites out there already. If yours isn't going to add any value to anyone, there's no point. Google Panda is getting smarter at filtering out low quality websites and it seems like it will only be a matter of time before micro nice sites get hit, EMD or not.

The other issue I have with them is that with 4-5 pages of content, you're not going to get that many search engine traffic, even for your main keyword.

I have a website that's ranked number 5 for a keyword that gets 3600 exactly monthly local searches.

In the last 2 weeks, I've only received 42 visitors from that keyword!

...And over 400 visitors from a single BLOG COMMENT.

Honestly, you're better off creating an authority site with killer content. Much better long term strategy and you'll get more search engine traffic that way.

My 2 cents

[boxoun]

I've used 5 service providers from warrior forum and they all sucked and I deleted them all. Not saying it can't work but if they could build money makers, it would be a better decision to build them for themselves.

The reason why I deleted them was the content was horrible and some used tactics that is so obviously against adsense tos.

Find a good writer and build them yourself.

[Goath]

It definitely works. I am scaling this up right now. Great way to make easy money.

[EricBaglio]

I have a very profitable micro nich network. When the panda update came out but I've been testing various link building tactics and they are on the rise again. Once you find a system that works well, its just a matter of small tweaks here and there.

[BigNorm]

Originally Posted by AfteraDream

You can have 10 sites a day launched! Takes me 30 mins to set up a site. The only thing holding you back can be content, but if you get it written fast by your VAs then you can be launching multiple sites a day.

You can also just buy sites from WF forum here where they will make you a site and even do initial link building. Bought one, it's hovering about 10-11th place now.. didn't do anything to it.

But you are right definitely. If you launch a site a day for a month you should be able to get part time income from them in 3-4 months. Which you can then leverage to build more sites.

I'll be honest, I joined the ranks because I'm lazy. The less work I do the better . But your right though, take the equity from the sites built and pump that right back into my business. If I can get 50% return on the other sites as I am on the site I focused on to get the combination right, in 2-3 months I'll have a full time income to quit my current job without financial worry. This is the ultimate goal of everyone I've spoken to on the subject.

I looked at buying fully built sites as well and will have another look further on down the track especially for eCommerce sites.

[AfteraDream]

Originally Posted by BigNorm

I'll be honest, I joined the ranks because I'm lazy. The less work I do the better . But your right though, take the equity from the sites built and pump that right back into my business. If I can get 50% return on the other sites as I am on the site I focused on to get the combination right, in 2-3 months I'll have a full time income to quit my current job without financial worry. This is the ultimate goal of everyone I've spoken to on the subject.

I looked at buying fully built sites as well and will have another look further on down the track especially for eCommerce sites.

Oh I'm a really lazy shmuck!!!! I don't want to do anything. But setting up site is easy and I can do it fast so once I have some funds I can scale it up and build up couple a hundred sites and then I too am considering buying some ecommerce sites.

I think AdSense sites are great start and they can provide money to use to build other business ventures, IM or not.. I hope I'm right on that!

[bitriot]

Originally Posted by yukon

What do you mean, the good keywords are gone?

Are you saying that since you can't get an EMD, you can't use the same keyword anyplace on a non-EMD site?

I hope that's not the way you do keyword research.

Well, when someone says MFA i assume they are talking about EMD type sites. I personally try to find an EMD and the build out another 10-15 pages around that EMD even if the EMD itself is only a 400 visits per month sort of keyword.

But I am a fairly new and inexperienced marketer - I only make $200 a month right now so I am sure someone experienced and full of good advice like yourself could put me on some knowledge :]

[bitriot]

Originally Posted by Welsh Warrior

I disagree, I find over a dozen each and every day, but for time constraints really only do a few a week (and a few more I sell on to clients who like my work).

there are still a LOT of EMDs available

I am glad you are finding great EMD's still. Maybe I am just not creative enough in my research. Either way, you have to admit that EMD research is much more difficult today than it was even 3 years ago.

[Welsh Warrior]

Originally Posted by bitriot

I am glad you are finding great EMD's still. Maybe I am just not creative enough in my research. Either way, you have to admit that EMD research is much more difficult today than it was even 3 years ago.

oh, abseloutley, took me a few minutes a few years back, these days it can take me an hour to find one (usually though, when you find one then you end up with 3 or 4 related ones within minutes, at least that is what I have found).

[BigNorm]

This might sound backwards, but I've found it easier to take huge keyword lists, add my settings and look for EMD's using MS before looking at competition analysis of individual keywords. Then when I find one I drill down further into the KW to see if maybe I can find another which may yield more favorable results. Once I've completed that then I start the analysis.

[davidlarson87]

As many other says, Don´t buy micro nich, Make it self, most of them are in wordpress and it´s really easy to setup

[marshaux]

I made a simple niche site just on wordpress and it is working well for me. Give it a shot - doesn't have to be massive, just good content and keyword specific. Best wishes!

[Barry Unruh]

I've been discovering building MFR sites is more stable and profitable in the long-term than building MFA sites.

[Welsh Warrior]

Originally Posted by Barry Unruh

I've been discovering building MFR sites is more stable and profitable in the long-term than building MFA sites.

Sorry for being a tad daft but - MFR?

[Daniel Wilson]

Niche sites will always work. This is basically the only way for the newcomers to be competitive to the high authority sites.

The game is changing tho. Times of 2 articles on the site with 3 ad blocks with a ton of backlinks are over.

I start every site with a package of 10 500 word articles. I don't do any backlinking for the first month or so. I smile when I see people using software to get 1000s of backlinks in a matter of days to a new site that has been hardly indexed by Google.


So yes, micro niche sites still work and will work for a long time.

[giseo]

Do both. On fat site and many thin. Hedge your bets.

[CarmenDA]

Yes it still works. I can vouch for that. People who make niche sites usually have several and it all adds up after a while.

I consider it a stepping stone tho. I would hope no one stops at adsense.

[TheFBGuy]

Yes they absolutely work. I have 1 which is about 8 months old for sale if anyone is interested. Has 8 unique articles, need quick cash, PM me if interested. Number 1 on Google, its an exact match domain, a .org