Hyphens vs Extra Word vs Extra Letters In Domains

EricBaglio · 11-30-2011, 10:29 AM

I know that EMD's are going to start receiving less weight from Google but they still do help in overall SEO. My question though is when you insert hyphens, extra words or extra letters, has anyone had more success with one over the other?

Here's an example:

Which if any would hold more weight and why?

niche-keyword-site.com (all hyphens)
nichekeyword-site.com (hyphen one word)
niche-keywordsite.com (hyphen one word)
nichekeywordsitex.com (extra letter)
nichekeywordsiteinfo.com (extra word)

Thanks,

I've ranked with a couple of these already but I haven't tried all of them so I was just wondering if someone out there has already.

TolyZ · 11-30-2011, 10:36 AM

I was just going to create a thread about this. I'm also wondering the same thing. Currently looking into purchasing 2-3 extra domains in my niche, but not sure which ones are better.

mileagedriver · 11-30-2011, 10:36 AM

Eric...first domain will make you reach good position. For more details go here: Promotion Tip: Are Hyphenated Domain Names A Good Buy?

JSProjects · 11-30-2011, 10:44 AM

I used to always recommend hyphens. But recently, there's been some opinion by 'experts' that Google is starting to look at these as spammy domains. (I've seen it pop up in a few threads here & elsewhere.) So now I can't really say for sure.

Why not a .net, .org, etc, instead of adding additional letters or words?

Tony Shipp · 11-30-2011, 10:46 AM

Depends on your intent. If you want branding or "word of mouth" traffic then eliminate the hyphens all together and even go with a generic name. But if you are getting your traffic from the serps then any of those domain variations will work.

outwest · 11-30-2011, 10:49 AM

If you have a brand, never use hypen
I can only think you would want a hyphen since the non hyphenated is already taken

Example
CheapShoes.com taken
you buy Cheap-shoes.com

So anyone who was to remember your company names goes back to google
Types in Cheapshoes.com
you lose that business

EricBaglio · 11-30-2011, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSProjects

I used to always recommend hyphens. But recently, there's been some opinion by 'experts' that Google is starting to look at these as spammy domains. (I've seen it pop up in a few threads here & elsewhere.) So now I can't really say for sure.

Why not a .net, .org, etc, instead of adding additional letters or words?

Thanks for the input JS. As for the .net/.org, they were already taken as well. I am targetting a specific niche product so I wanted a keyword rich domain.

I've heard these are ways to cash in on some of the SEO benefits. I was just not sure which one has more weight if any.

Bryan V · 11-30-2011, 03:27 PM

I like:
1. EMD.com/net/org
2. EMD with 1 or 2 hyphens, just to get the .com

Personally I don't like adding an "x" to the end or whatever letter, just because it looks spammy. The main point of the choices above is to be able to SELL the site later and not have someone turned off by it.

In my experience of ranking results, it's simply too small of a difference to matter or even test unless you're trying to rank the sites without backlinking (which I do not do).

EricBaglio · 11-30-2011, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mileagedriver

Eric...first domain will make you reach good position. For more details go here: Promotion Tip: Are Hyphenated Domain Names A Good Buy?

Thanks. That is the one I think looks the nicest. Also thanks for the link. It was a good read.

imdomination · 11-30-2011, 04:43 PM

If I can't get the EMD .com/.net/.org I will almost always try and add a word to the end of it and if that fails a letter. I prefer word though.

outwest · 11-30-2011, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imdomination

If I can't get the EMD .com/.net/.org I will almost always try and add a word to the end of it and if that fails a letter. I prefer word though.

why? thats not an EMD any more

EricBaglio · 11-30-2011, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock Irish

Loving stop works compared to jsut hyphens or other extensions I might add.

What is Loving stop?

mikedex · 12-01-2011, 12:24 AM

First one sounds good.

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EricBaglio Warrior Enthusiast War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: California Posts: 179 Thanks: 28 Thanked 30 Times in 22 Posts	Hyphens vs Extra Word vs Extra Letters In Domains I know that EMD's are going to start receiving less weight from Google but they still do help in overall SEO. My question though is when you insert hyphens, extra words or extra letters, has anyone had more success with one over the other? Here's an example: Which if any would hold more weight and why? niche-keyword-site.com (all hyphens) nichekeyword-site.com (hyphen one word) niche-keywordsite.com (hyphen one word) nichekeywordsitex.com (extra letter) nichekeywordsiteinfo.com (extra word) Thanks, I've ranked with a couple of these already but I haven't tried all of them so I was just wondering if someone out there has already.
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JSProjects Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,118 Thanks: 57 Thanked 201 Times in 177 Posts Contact Info	Re: Hyphens vs Extra Word vs Extra Letters In Domains I used to always recommend hyphens. But recently, there's been some opinion by 'experts' that Google is starting to look at these as spammy domains. (I've seen it pop up in a few threads here & elsewhere.) So now I can't really say for sure. Why not a .net, .org, etc, instead of adding additional letters or words?
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Tony Shipp Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 90 Thanks: 19 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Hyphens vs Extra Word vs Extra Letters In Domains Depends on your intent. If you want branding or "word of mouth" traffic then eliminate the hyphens all together and even go with a generic name. But if you are getting your traffic from the serps then any of those domain variations will work.
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outwest Lovin Life War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: USA and Asia Posts: 2,690 Thanks: 118 Thanked 180 Times in 161 Posts	Re: Hyphens vs Extra Word vs Extra Letters In Domains If you have a brand, never use hypen I can only think you would want a hyphen since the non hyphenated is already taken Example CheapShoes.com taken you buy Cheap-shoes.com So anyone who was to remember your company names goes back to google Types in Cheapshoes.com you lose that business

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Bryan V Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 523 Thanks: 37 Thanked 65 Times in 61 Posts	Re: Hyphens vs Extra Word vs Extra Letters In Domains I like: 1. EMD.com/net/org 2. EMD with 1 or 2 hyphens, just to get the .com Personally I don't like adding an "x" to the end or whatever letter, just because it looks spammy. The main point of the choices above is to be able to SELL the site later and not have someone turned off by it. In my experience of ranking results, it's simply too small of a difference to matter or even test unless you're trying to rank the sites without backlinking (which I do not do).
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