Backlinks -Frequently Asked Questions

[PPV Guru]

He guys someone showed me this today and asked me if this is a good example of the linking strategy. Now this is not my site, this is not an affiliate link, this is not something I have anything to do with...but check out this chart, it's a good one.

Blackhat backlink development buffer circle | Exposed seo and internet marketing

[KentChow]

It sounds great. I know I could use automation to backlink those tier 2 sites.

Do you use Linkwheel to link them all? I heard it no longer works. Thanks!

[jacksite]

Originally Posted by PPV Guru

So the content on these 8 sites will be original. I don’t care if you spin it and make sure it’s readable 8 times, just as long as the initial content is orginal and you are fine.

So I can post the same original content from my money site to these 8 sites, right?
Sorry about my silly questions, I just ask what I am confused.

[Alexander Simons]

Great post PPV Guru, here are just some things that i think you schould change in the text/backlinking strategy:

Originally Posted by PPV Guru

This is why we spend a great deal of time on link wheels.

You keep telling that you schould use natural backlinks or your site will get slapped and then you say that you schould spend time on link wheels? A linkwheel isn´t natural at all. Search engines (Google) are very smart and they will see that all links are linked to each other sooner or later and in worst case will your linkwheels get your site slapped. Sorry but link wheels was a great strategy a few years ago but now when the search engines are smarter link wheels simply wont work. I would say that link pyramids is the way to go if you want something similar to a link wheel but i prefer and recommend myself just all natural links. (article links,social bookmarks,guestposts,blog networks etc.)

Originally Posted by PPV Guru

Now if you want to use a software, you can start to do it because there is no WAY google is gonna slap a PR5+ site, you can forget about it. If it were that easy to get slapped the entire search engine infrastructure would collapse overnight.

I agree that Google wont slap a pr5+ site bescuse of an unatural amount of backlinks but there are several pr5+ sites that has been slapped for example ezinearticles got slapped pretty hard in the panda update so sure there sure is a WAY that a high pr could be slapped. And as you have already said Google ranks pages. Even if the main domain dosen´t get slapped your page may get slapped bescuse of the unatural links and if your page gets slapped the links on the page will lose some (or all of) its ranking power.

[stodary2000]

Hi PPV Guru,
Thank you so much for sharing this valuable information

I have few questions

1) For the contents which are going to be written (posted) in your 8 blog sites

is it OK to write 1 new unique article and spin it to the 8 remaining sites (actually to the 7 remaining as the original article will be posted to the 1st blog site)

2) If spinning is OK, what is the percentage
50% is OK or more ??

3) If I am targeting 5 low competitive keywords in my money site
should I create 5 * 8 blogs = 40 blog sites

meaning do I have to create 5 Squidoos for the 5 keywords

or only I choose 1 keyword and that's it

[dhpkc]

He says ONCE, "This is why we spend a great deal of time on link wheels." I don't know exactly what he means by this but he does say it in reference to getting links indexed, not getting links. You recommend link pyramids as opposed to link wheels. I agree, and evidently so does the author of this thread; his entire post walks you through step by step how to build a link pyramid, e.g. build 8 PR-5 backlinks to your money site then build 8 or more backlinks to each of the previous 8 backlinks that are linking to your money site - this is a link pyramid.

Your next point is that a PR-5 site can get slapped. Regardless, it is still MUCH better for one of your links to get slapped than your money site. That way your site will maybe fall a few spots as opposed to a few pages in Google's rankings.

I echo your sentiments of this being an excellent post by PPV Guru. So often on the Warrior Forum you find marketers giving the advice left and right to build link pyramids (or a whole myriad of other things/advice) assuming that everybody knows exactly what a link pyramid is and how to build one.

It is actually quite difficult to find posts such as this that explains exactly, in a step by step manner, how to do exactly what he is suggesting, i.e. build a link pyramid. Very valuable information here and a huge kudos and thanks to the author for providing this value to the Warrior Forum.

Originally Posted by Alexander Simons

Great post PPV Guru, here are just some things that i think you schould change in the text/backlinking strategy:

You keep telling that you schould use natural backlinks or your site will get slapped and then you say that you schould spend time on link wheels? A linkwheel isn´t natural at all. Search engines (Google) are very smart and they will see that all links are linked to each other sooner or later and in worst case will your linkwheels get your site slapped. Sorry but link wheels was a great strategy a few years ago but now when the search engines are smarter link wheels simply wont work. I would say that link pyramids is the way to go if you want something similar to a link wheel but i prefer and recommend myself just all natural links. (article links,social bookmarks,guestposts,blog networks etc.)

I agree that Google wont slap a pr5+ site bescuse of an unatural amount of backlinks but there are several pr5+ sites that has been slapped for example ezinearticles got slapped pretty hard in the panda update so sure there sure is a WAY that a high pr could be slapped. And as you have already said Google ranks pages. Even if the main domain dosen´t get slapped your page may get slapped bescuse of the unatural links and if your page gets slapped the links on the page will lose some (or all of) its ranking power.

[stodary2000]

Hi PPV Guru,
Thank you so much for sharing this valuable information

I am just waiting for my questions to be answered

1) For the contents which are going to be written (posted) in your 8 blog sites

is it OK to write 1 new unique article and spin it to the 8 remaining sites (actually to the 7 remaining as the original article will be posted to the 1st blog site)

2) If spinning is OK, what is the percentage
50% is OK or more ??

3) If I am targeting 5 low competitive keywords in my money site
should I create 5 * 8 blogs = 40 blog sites

meaning do I have to create 5 Squidoos for the 5 keywords

or only I choose 1 keyword and that's it

[markowe]

Ok, my take, this is basically the link pyramid explained neatly for newbies. Not sure I agree with all the explanations about PR and what is natural and what is not but the main point is that this kind of linkbuilding WORKS for getting keywords ranked and is the easiest approach for newbies to follow (aside maybe from high-PR manual blog commenting). Certainly easier (cheaper and less involved) than buying high-PR homepage links, guest blogging etc. Thing is, doing this approach consistently can SEEM like a lot of work and the results can be slow to come - look at at 1-3 months to rank for a low-med competition kwp. But those are very stable long term rankings - give me those over spamming your site with blog comments anyday and seeing it dance around constantly and possibly get sandboxed.
So, it works, but if you don't want to bother, well, fine by us who do

[markowe]

P.s. About spinning, don't overthink that stuff. My opinion, a backlink is a backlink. Maybe well-spun content makes for more effective backlink fodder, maybe not. I would like to be able to have "unique" content on all those tier 1s but I often can't be bothered and it's still working fine for me, maybe it just takes longer *shrug*

[ichl13]

Thanks for this post I really found it useful but I have a couple of questions.

Say I made a blogger account as a second tier backlink, would it be ok if the name was exactly the same as the emd that I got for my money site? so www(dot)emd(dot)net with a blogger account thats emd(dot)blogspot(dot)com?

Secondly, for the tier 3 backlinks, Can I do the same websites for backlinks for each tier 2 backlink... so for example a different ezine article for each backlink, then maybe a different youtube video for each backlink etc?

Edit: How do you drop links to your money site from blogger? Would you do it after each post? or just a single one in the header or footer?

[synconlinemedia]

I have been using this strategy for a while...and variations of...it works. To mix things up I will also place additional links into my 2nd row leading to other related, non-competitive site which seems to add to the index speed and value of the 2nd row page. Any opinion on this?

[synconlinemedia]

Originally Posted by jacksite

I have the same question

Im not sure what the guru thinks but my input is as follows:

1) For the content which are going to be written (posted) in your 8 blog sites is it OK to write 1 new unique article and spin it to the 8 remaining sites (actually to the 7 remaining as the original article will be posted to the 1st blog site). ***Yes....spin the original and use each, including the original, as you want...but yes you have to spin it for sure (8x is fine).

2) If spinning is OK, what is the percentage 50% is OK or more? ***This is an opionion but I like 50%+...closer to 60% ideally, however 30% can be ok depending on how many backlinks, etc. Truth is if you spin at 30% and backlink the junk out of that site the spin % wont matter if it appears to be relevent to Google (hence the massive backlinks).

3) If I am targeting 5 low competitive keywords in my money site
should I create 5 * 8 blogs = 40 blog sites ***You can yes, however, if I were you I would optimize each 2nd level site for all key words and cut the work load down initially. Also, having 40 blog sites in lets say 10 large link wheels built on top of each other would be pretty powerful...but a lot of work.

[stodary2000]

Hi synconlinemedia,
Thank you for your reply
I think PPV Guru will say the same thing

You're right
it is impossible to go for 40 blogs
it is so so much work

if you outsource this task (creating the 8 blogs..etc)
how much you should pay for it and where to find a good outsourcing website

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by elevationz

You have done a really good job in explaining, especially to newbies. Thanks.

Glad you were able to get something from it.

Originally Posted by Josh MacDonald

There are only 8 sites there, not 10.

Yeah I meant to change that when I edited it...lol

Originally Posted by Pixel Minisite

thanks for sharing

Originally Posted by chrisen

Thank you PPV. I've been following your other thread as well.

np guys

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by KentChow

It sounds great. I know I could use automation to backlink those tier 2 sites.

Do you use Linkwheel to link them all? I heard it no longer works. Thanks!

Linkwheeling the old way has lost a lot of effectiveness, yes. That old way being linking as many sites as you can to your money site. But linkwheeling the way explained above by setting up a few "buffer" sites and then linkwheeling them is more effective today because of the keyword quality. People just aren't linking with quality sites anymore, they're sticking with PR0-PR3 mostly because they're easy to get backlinks from but the more powerful sites google takes more seriously.

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by jacksite

So I can post the same original content from my money site to these 8 sites, right?
Sorry about my silly questions, I just ask what I am confused.

You can actually. It's probably better to spin it 8 times but you can still get away with it if you didn't. It works kind of like press releases. You don't spin them yet when prweb sends them out, they all get indexed just as fast, some higher than others, but they get indexed with no problems.

Originally Posted by onlinemarketer23

Hey guy,

great great info.. I totally agree with you and in addition, the sites you come up with to build reliable and authoritative backlinks might be very important to give a serious boost yo our site´s rankings..

I hope to read on some more informative wso of yours very soon

Cheers,

Hmmmm...I actually wasn't planning a WSO but but i could probably explain it better if I did one. Glad you got something out of it though.

Originally Posted by aeros

keep in mind that just because you post to a high PR site does not mean the page that your link ends up on is the same PR

Yeah I know, I explained that part in the process above and explain how they increase the page rank for that site.

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by Alexander Simons

Great post PPV Guru, here are just some things that i think you schould change in the text/backlinking strategy:

You keep telling that you schould use natural backlinks or your site will get slapped and then you say that you schould spend time on link wheels? A linkwheel isn´t natural at all. Search engines (Google) are very smart and they will see that all links are linked to each other sooner or later and in worst case will your linkwheels get your site slapped. Sorry but link wheels was a great strategy a few years ago but now when the search engines are smarter link wheels simply wont work. I would say that link pyramids is the way to go if you want something similar to a link wheel but i prefer and recommend myself just all natural links. (article links,social bookmarks,guestposts,blog networks etc.)

I agree that Google wont slap a pr5+ site bescuse of an unatural amount of backlinks but there are several pr5+ sites that has been slapped for example ezinearticles got slapped pretty hard in the panda update so sure there sure is a WAY that a high pr could be slapped. And as you have already said Google ranks pages. Even if the main domain dosen´t get slapped your page may get slapped bescuse of the unatural links and if your page gets slapped the links on the page will lose some (or all of) its ranking power.

Ok you've said a lot and I'll try to address it all.

The term "linkwheel" is irrelevant. I only use the term as people are familiar with it and I don't want to confuse newbies. What matters more than my industry buzzword is the method that I'm using.

Concerning google slapping PR5+ sites. If you notice, all the sites with high PR getting slapped are article sites. This is why I don't INCLUDE article sites in my strategy anymore becuase google doesn't find most of them relevant. Same with blog commenting...it's ineffective in the long run and considered spammy.

But you won't see google slapping Blogger. Why? Because they OWN blogger. You wont' see them slapping a lot of high tier blog or article sites like wordpress, hubpages etc because they know that these sites moderate the HECK out of their content, unlike these other article sites. So as a rule of thumb, if its harder to get a backlink from a particular site because they moderate it too tight, it's probably a good backlink.

Let you post some poorly written and spun article to hubpages or blogger....they will delete in within 2 days. This whole "linkwheel" process is NOT about your structure more than it is about the QUALITY of the process. I'll go into something else.

Blog commenting doesn't work for long and gets you slapped over time. Why? Because you're putting in 3k blog comments a day for 60 days, then all of a sudden, the moderator of the blogs start deleted your comments in record fashion. You start loosing too many of your backlinks at one time and google will EASILY pickup that you're being removed because of a low quality experience to visitors.

However, google is NOT gonna slap a social site, or a video site. Period. And they're not gonna slap high tier, highly moderated blog and article sites either and that is why we use it in our strategy.

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by dhpkc

He says ONCE, "This is why we spend a great deal of time on link wheels." I don't know exactly what he means by this but he does say it in reference to getting links indexed, not getting links. You recommend link pyramids as opposed to link wheels. I agree, and evidently so does the author of this thread; his entire post walks you through step by step how to build a link pyramid, e.g. build 8 PR-5 backlinks to your money site then build 8 or more backlinks to each of the previous 8 backlinks that are linking to your money site - this is a link pyramid.

Your next point is that a PR-5 site can get slapped. Regardless, it is still MUCH better for one of your links to get slapped than your money site. That way your site will maybe fall a few spots as opposed to a few pages in Google's rankings.

I echo your sentiments of this being an excellent post by PPV Guru. So often on the Warrior Forum you find marketers giving the advice left and right to build link pyramids (or a whole myriad of other things/advice) assuming that everybody knows exactly what a link pyramid is and how to build one.

It is actually quite difficult to find posts such as this that explains exactly, in a step by step manner, how to do exactly what he is suggesting, i.e. build a link pyramid. Very valuable information here and a huge kudos and thanks to the author for providing this value to the Warrior Forum.

Thanks for explaining that and thanks for the kudos. I don't need to go behind you because you've already got this one nailed down. The meaning of that phrase actually isn't that deep, I was just saying that linking is very important to your seo campaign no matter how anyone looks at it.

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by stodary2000

Hi PPV Guru,
Thank you so much for sharing this valuable information

I have few questions

1) For the contents which are going to be written (posted) in your 8 blog sites

is it OK to write 1 new unique article and spin it to the 8 remaining sites (actually to the 7 remaining as the original article will be posted to the 1st blog site)

2) If spinning is OK, what is the percentage
50% is OK or more ??

3) If I am targeting 5 low competitive keywords in my money site
should I create 5 * 8 blogs = 40 blog sites

meaning do I have to create 5 Squidoos for the 5 keywords

or only I choose 1 keyword and that's it

NP.

1) Absolutely. Just as long as each of your spins are readable to the visitor.

2) The min you have to spin is 30% but I always try to get at LEAST 40% but an article spun really well is spun at 50% or more.

3) To get the most, yes. A different keyword in each blog creation because the site link HAS to have the keyword in it for it to be as effective. For squidoo, you just create one account and 5 different lenses (which those can be created very easily).

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by markowe

P.s. About spinning, don't overthink that stuff. My opinion, a backlink is a backlink. Maybe well-spun content makes for more effective backlink fodder, maybe not. I would like to be able to have "unique" content on all those tier 1s but I often can't be bothered and it's still working fine for me, maybe it just takes longer *shrug*

I agree actually. People put waaaaaay too much into spinning when it's not really all that important for off page seo simply because you're not putting the same article on the same site. It matters most when you're gonna be putting the same article on the same site, then you need variations, not questions asked. But it's NOT as important to do is in offsite linking. Great point.

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by ichl13

Thanks for this post I really found it useful but I have a couple of questions.

Say I made a blogger account as a second tier backlink, would it be ok if the name was exactly the same as the emd that I got for my money site? so www(dot)emd(dot)net with a blogger account thats emd(dot)blogspot(dot)com?

Secondly, for the tier 3 backlinks, Can I do the same websites for backlinks for each tier 2 backlink... so for example a different ezine article for each backlink, then maybe a different youtube video for each backlink etc?

Edit: How do you drop links to your money site from blogger? Would you do it after each post? or just a single one in the header or footer?

Good question. It actually does matter because if emd is not a keyword your visitors will search for to get to your site, then you're getting ranked for a term that won't bring you any traffic. It's always best to include the keyword in account creation. Now, you can put emd somewhere IN the keyword like YOUR-KEYWORD-EMD.blogger. com and that will get you both your money keyword and your site name keyword indexed at the same time.

For third tier sites, it really doesn't matter what you backlink with actually. I still recommend high PR sites (it's just my thing, i know it costs more but you get what you pay for) but yes you can use blogger and stuff for 3rd tier too.

But what you ALSO want to include on tier 3 are social bookmarking sites, article sites (cause it doesn't matter much on tier 3), press releases and blog posts on other blogs (not comments), youtube for example.

From blogger, you can put related links on the right side of every page via their editor. Also, at the end of each blog post, or somewhere inside, you refer to your money site but you do it in a conversational manner, not a selling manner.

You have to do it like your talking to a friend and just want to recommend a good resource for them to check out. Now, they do have a header and footer as well so you can setup a footer and have it link to it if you want too also but your BEST bet for both seo and visitor interest qualities, you should put it at the bottom of all your blog posts or somewhere in the blog post itself.

And when you do it, put in a keyword and hyperlink it to your money site. So if your keyword is "learn to play golf" then you might write a phrase like this:

"There are plenty of course that you can use to learn to play golf that won't cost you an arm and a leg..."

That keyword would be hyperlinked to your money site. This gives the visitor the option of being exposed to your other "money site" message with ease plus it offers you GREAT seo qualities because you have an anchor keyword that is linked to your money site which should be optimized for that same keyword.

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by synconlinemedia

I have been using this strategy for a while...and variations of...it works. To mix things up I will also place additional links into my 2nd row leading to other related, non-competitive site which seems to add to the index speed and value of the 2nd row page. Any opinion on this?

YES! That's it. I didn't want to confuse people so I didn't mention that part. You also want to link to a site that you don't control, make money from, and is a reference for the visitor. Google likes to see links going to sites that you don't "benefit" from because it enhances the visitor experience. Again, quality is the key.

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by synconlinemedia

Im not sure what the guru thinks but my input is as follows:

1) For the content which are going to be written (posted) in your 8 blog sites is it OK to write 1 new unique article and spin it to the 8 remaining sites (actually to the 7 remaining as the original article will be posted to the 1st blog site). ***Yes....spin the original and use each, including the original, as you want...but yes you have to spin it for sure (8x is fine).

2) If spinning is OK, what is the percentage 50% is OK or more? ***This is an opionion but I like 50%+...closer to 60% ideally, however 30% can be ok depending on how many backlinks, etc. Truth is if you spin at 30% and backlink the junk out of that site the spin % wont matter if it appears to be relevent to Google (hence the massive backlinks).

3) If I am targeting 5 low competitive keywords in my money site
should I create 5 * 8 blogs = 40 blog sites ***You can yes, however, if I were you I would optimize each 2nd level site for all key words and cut the work load down initially. Also, having 40 blog sites in lets say 10 large link wheels built on top of each other would be pretty powerful...but a lot of work.

I agree with everything 100%. I'll have to retract something from earlier. You don't HAVE to build 40 blogs. You can just write blog posts for each keyword etc. Now I do but I'm an extremist...LOL!

I'm very paranoid about Google so everything I do is to make absolutely 100% sure that Google doesn't screw me over with their algo changes. But you don't HAVE to do that, I'm just over the top. Now I will say that I usually pay people to create accounts for me and you get them for dirt cheap over in philpines and malaysia. They're really smart people, don't mind the work, and are pretty good at tasks such as this, as well as writing and posting.

[dhpkc]

Great idea IMO. I bet there would be a ton of people (myself included) willing to buy a guide for dummies on building link pyramids.

Originally Posted by onlinemarketer23

Hey guy,

great great info.. I totally agree with you and in addition, the sites you come up with to build reliable and authoritative backlinks might be very important to give a serious boost yo our site´s rankings..

I hope to read on some more informative wso of yours very soon

Cheers,

[Teez]

Thanks for the share a lot of useful info here

a question I posted about a week ago but got to response to was about backlinks hydra I wanna get it but I wanted to know if its techniques are still viable after the panda incident

Below was my original post

''Hi Ive been out of the game for a while since January 2011 actually to be exact was about to get back in and I heard about Panda

I remember the last piece of my jigsaw was to get backlinks hydra back in December 2010/ Jan 2011 but I got sidetracked with finals.

Anyways Im done now and wanna get back in is backlinks hydra still useful after Panda

Because from my understanding some of the backlinking methods like article marketting have now become obsolete. ''

thanks in advance

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by Teez

Thanks for the share a lot of useful info here

a question I posted about a week ago but got to response to was about backlinks hydra I wanna get it but I wanted to know if its techniques are still viable after the panda incident

Below was my original post

''Hi Ive been out of the game for a while since January 2011 actually to be exact was about to get back in and I heard about Panda

I remember the last piece of my jigsaw was to get backlinks hydra back in December 2010/ Jan 2011 but I got sidetracked with finals.

Anyways Im done now and wanna get back in is backlinks hydra still useful after Panda

Because from my understanding some of the backlinking methods like article marketting have now become obsolete. ''

thanks in advance

Hi. I actually have zero experience with either of these companies so I can't tell you anything about them. However, backlinking I can talk about. While most article sites are ineffective now for linking, there are other sites like blog site, social sites, video sites and press releases that will not go out of style for a while.

Now, article marketing is not obsolete per se, but it isn't as effective as it used to be. Other places are still powerful and effective for linking strategies.

[ichl13]

I know this isnt directly on topic but do you use The Best Spinner for spinning articles or is there a free tool to do it?

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by ichl13

I know this isnt directly on topic but do you use The Best Spinner for spinning articles or is there a free tool to do it?

Eh it's sort of on topic. I use the best spinner for this. I don't know of any free spinners out there.

[beatlechan]

Originally Posted by ichl13

I know this isnt directly on topic but do you use The Best Spinner for spinning articles or is there a free tool to do it?

You can try SpinnerChief(not affiliate link). They have a paid and free version. I've use it sometimes for spinning. It does the job well. I have not tried Best Spinner so I don't know how it compares.

[jacksite]

another question:
I spin my articles and post them on those 8 high pr sites, and then build lots of backlinks to these 2nd tier sites. But is that possible that the 8 2nd tier sites rank higher than my own money site? Because they themseves have high pr, and then have some high pr backlinks.

[dagaul101]

Nice tips, Google has always stressed quality over quantity, if more folks realised that Google is watching the type of links they get and how quickly the links arrive the more they will be aware of how to avoid getting slapped

[ichl13]

Originally Posted by beatlechan

You can try SpinnerChief(not affiliate link). They have a paid and free version. I've use it sometimes for spinning. It does the job well. I have not tried Best Spinner so I don't know how it compares.

Thanks for the suggestion, spinnerchief is working perfectly!
Last question for OP going through the list, I thought blogspot and blogger were the same thing? or am i mistaken

[Magim]

Originally Posted by PPV Guru

I agree with everything 100%. I'll have to retract something from earlier. You don't HAVE to build 40 blogs. You can just write blog posts for each keyword etc. Now I do but I'm an extremist...LOL!

I'm very paranoid about Google so everything I do is to make absolutely 100% sure that Google doesn't screw me over with their algo changes. But you don't HAVE to do that, I'm just over the top. Now I will say that I usually pay people to create accounts for me and you get them for dirt cheap over in philpines and malaysia. They're really smart people, don't mind the work, and are pretty good at tasks such as this, as well as writing and posting.

If you write blog posts for each keyword on your second tier sites, would you want to backlink to each of those individual blog posts? Or should you focus on just getting a large number of backlinks just to the root of the second tier site? (i.e. http://yoursite.tumblr.com/) Seems like backlinking to the individual posts could get pretty hairy..

[stodary2000]

Originally Posted by PPV Guru

Now I will say that I usually pay people to create accounts for me and you get them for dirt cheap over in philpines and malaysia. They're really smart people, don't mind the work, and are pretty good at tasks such as this, as well as writing and posting.

Please PPV Guru,

1) which websites do you use for outsourcing this kind of jobs?
2) What do you really ask for
in my scenario, I am targeting 5 low competitive with moderate seaches 1500-2500 searches/mon

Do you ask for 5 keywords x 8 blogs sites = 40 or what do you really ask for ??

3) what is a good price to pay for those services?

[stodary2000]

Hi PPV Guru,
Thank you for your replies to my questions

I have 3 more questions

Now you say that the 8 blog sites are of PR 5
but for sure the one which I will create will be PR 0

so let's say I will create a Squidoo lens for one of my keywords
so it is going to be of PR 0

so my questions are

1) after how many links to this PR 0 Squidoo lens, it is going to move to PR 5

2) how many links I can have from one Squidoo lens pointing to money sites (I am asking because I can have 2-3 links with different keywords in every Squidoo lens)

3) If I am using an outsource service for SE Nuke 2.0
do you know anyone from our Warrior Forum who can do exactly or very close to your scenario ?

[johnasthlon]

First of thanks for sharing ample amount of good resource to generate back link campaign with unique content.

I have noticed that Corank and Bloggeries also good resource to generate back links.

[joshua1daniel]

thanks for sharing ,

i always use Squidoo.com and blogspot.com for back link, and submit to dofollow bookmarking sites like google bookmark

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by jacksite

another question:
I spin my articles and post them on those 8 high pr sites, and then build lots of backlinks to these 2nd tier sites. But is that possible that the 8 2nd tier sites rank higher than my own money site? Because they themseves have high pr, and then have some high pr backlinks.

I think I understand your question. All the sites you will be linking to have higher PR than your money site at first. Of course, once you create the post on the 2nd tier site (for example) that post won't have the overall sites PR.

So for example, you're posting to blogger. Blogger is a PR8 or PR9 site I believe. Eventhough blogger.com has PR8 or whatever, your blog post will probably be PR0 at the start. But, by shear fact that it links to the blogger.com homepage via an on page link (which is already on the site without you having to do anything) it will jump to PR1, PR2 etc really fast because it's on a strong site.

It will also get indexed faster and will often times go to the first page of google for that keyword within as early at 45 mins to an hour. Then when this post gets higher and higher in PR which it will really fast, it will then pass the power back to your site.

I know guys who dont' even OWN a website of their own, all they do is use blogger and other sites to get indexed and traffic and sales FASTER. But we SEO people like to have multi benefits from it. It's not enough to just get indexed and sales from blogger, we want to also make our OWN site powerful so that we eventually don't need to back link anymore for that site becuase we'd be an authority.

Anyway, a longwinded answer, not sure if it helps you or not, but I'd love to hear your response to this to see if I touched on your issue well enough.

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by ichl13

Thanks for the suggestion, spinnerchief is working perfectly!
Last question for OP going through the list, I thought blogspot and blogger were the same thing? or am i mistaken

Yeah I keep forgetting. They are the same thing. When I'm done responding to people, i'm gonna post a list of all the sites I use for the 2nd tier.

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by Magim

If you write blog posts for each keyword on your second tier sites, would you want to backlink to each of those individual blog posts? Or should you focus on just getting a large number of backlinks just to the root of the second tier site? (i.e. AUSHUAUSHUA'S) Seems like backlinking to the individual posts could get pretty hairy..

Very good question. I backlink every post and that's the reason why we keep consitent content going. Most people put up content once, then backlink the same links every month and that's how you get slapped.

But what I do is I make a new blog post every so often, sometimes daily, sometimes a few times a week, sometimes every week. And then I backlink it to all the sites.

IMPORTANT NOTE: I NEVER back link the same link to the same site twice. Once I've backlink that link I never touch it again.

So if I have 100 posts on my 2nd tier site, I only back link each post once. Now on the 3rd tier, say I have 50 social bookmark site on my list and 50 article sites on that list. I would only backlink each of the 100 posts one time to each site then never touch it again.

Now for extremist, if you want to backlink it more than once, fine. But what you need to do is create a new account for each of the 50 social bookmark sites on tier 3 and each of the 50 article sites on tier 3 etc. But you NEVER back link the same link, with the same keyword, on the same profile for ANY 3rd tier linking site more than once.

I'm not saying it will hurt you if you break this rule but I'm saying for those who play it safe, this is your method. And yes, you would back link a different keyword for that different blog post.

So if blog post 1 was keyword "build a house" you back link with "build a house" as your keyword. Blog 2 is "renters insurance" then you back link "renters insurance" for blog post 2.

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by stodary2000

Please PPV Guru,

1) which websites do you use for outsourcing this kind of jobs?
2) What do you really ask for
in my scenario, I am targeting 5 low competitive with moderate seaches 1500-2500 searches/mon

Do you ask for 5 keywords x 8 blogs sites = 40 or what do you really ask for ??

3) what is a good price to pay for those services?

1) I use Elance and Guru.com
2) Typically you ask them how much they charge per backlink, they'll tell you 10 cents for this kind of link with this kind of PR or 25 cents per this kind of link etc and then you figure out how many you want to do based on the price quotes they give you.
3)The average pay ratio is between 10 and 25 cents per link depending on type of site and PR. I know I probably just pissed off some SEO service providers by sharing this information but they'll get over it.

Originally Posted by stodary2000

Hi PPV Guru,
Thank you for your replies to my questions

I have 3 more questions

Now you say that the 8 blog sites are of PR 5
but for sure the one which I will create will be PR 0

so let's say I will create a Squidoo lens for one of my keywords
so it is going to be of PR 0

so my questions are

1) after how many links to this PR 0 Squidoo lens, it is going to move to PR 5

2) how many links I can have from one Squidoo lens pointing to money sites (I am asking because I can have 2-3 links with different keywords in every Squidoo lens)

3) If I am using an outsource service for SE Nuke 2.0
do you know anyone from our Warrior Forum who can do exactly or very close to your scenario ?

1) That question can't be answered because Google doesn't reveal the true number of any sites back links to anyone other than the site owner. But typically, all you have to do is keep linking until you see the PR jump which will be pretty fast in most cases.

2) Squidoo is awesome because you can link as many times as you want. Some of my lenses have 10 different money site links in it. I link them to different pages. I might do a squidoo video one day to show people how to do it right.

3) I actually do in fact. I know a couple of great companies out there that. Personally, my company, or one of them, does SEO back linkings too but currently we only deal with high end clientele at this time. In other words, the prices are really, really high and we dont' have a low in service line yet. However, if you offline me (and this goes for anyone out there) I know some companies who will be able to service you for dirt cheap, and I mean quality from start to finish. I will note, I don't make money from referring you to them either so I'm not profiting from saying or doing that. I just like to see good people succeed in life and business.

[genegem]

all the sites with high PR getting slapped are article sites.

Good reason to avoid them esp EZA with all their contradictions. Better to build a few dozen hubs and some free WP blogs.

[tiara]

Lately, I am seeing backlink dripping package that allows you to 'drip' the links at low volumes instead of dumping them all at one. Do you think this is a good strategy?

I guess when Google algo becomes smarter, so does the products from backlink providers.

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by tiara

Lately, I am seeing backlink dripping package that allows you to 'drip' the links at low volumes instead of dumping them all at one. Do you think this is a good strategy?

I guess when Google algo becomes smarter, so does the products from backlink providers.

Yes. It's the only strategy I use now.

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by tiara

Lately, I am seeing backlink dripping package that allows you to 'drip' the links at low volumes instead of dumping them all at one. Do you think this is a good strategy?

I guess when Google algo becomes smarter, so does the products from backlink providers.

Well I'll say that I usually always do an occassional big dump from time to time for a boost, but then I'll do the dripping strategy the most. Probably like once a month or two I'll do a big dump at once.

[markowe]

Originally Posted by ttkim

I am just starting in the IM business so first off, I want to thank you for providing this information. It's well explained and a huge help to me. I just had a question.

I don't think this question was asked, but would you have all your 8 second tier sites backlinking to your money blog post? Isn't it a bit suspicious that those 8 sites consistently backlink to your money site every time it makes a new post?

I agree that is probably a footprint you want to avoid. It makes those 8 sites obviously self-serving. Even if that is something the google algo is not crunching right now it could do in the future. I really mix it up, link out to all kinds of different stuff from the Tier 1s (but always high authority stuff). That way it is impossible to really tell which site is "supposed to be" benefitting from the linking, yet you still get plenty of juice. Who knows, you may even get more since your site is being mentioned in good company

[arshavin]

Sorry is this is a stupid question. But can we use Senuke to create our web 2.0 buffers and then use Senuke to do the rest of the link building?

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by ttkim

I am just starting in the IM business so first off, I want to thank you for providing this information. It's well explained and a huge help to me. I just had a question.

I don't think this question was asked, but would you have all your 8 second tier sites backlinking to your money blog post? Isn't it a bit suspicious that those 8 sites consistently backlink to your money site every time it makes a new post?

Absolutely not. If you use the site to backlink different links ON your site, then no it doesn't. It's only a footprint when you backlink the same keyword, the same url, over and over and over again. That's why we have to keep consistent on page content as well as consistent off page content so that we are not back linking the same url over and over again.

Keep in mind, Google doesn't rank SITES it ranks URLS. I don't think people get that concept because most of us are programmed wrong. It's the site that Google slaps more than it is the URL that gets slapped. And it doesn't create a footprint if you backlink different links on your site.

So if you post to your 2nd tier sites say 3 times a week, you also need to post to your money site 3 times a week and you need to back link each new post from your money site from your 2nd tier site.

Please understand Google doesn't penalize you for working the system, they penalize you for spamming. And it's not spamming when you are giving people access and notification of new information that is presented on your site.

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by cybertrash

Wow, very informative, so you do not suggest purchasing backlinks ?

Nah, you can buy backlinks too. I just stress that you try to build your own team because you can usually tell them EXACTLY how you want your links linked versus a company that may not know a thing about SEO will do it THEIR way and their way might be wrong and get you slapped. You really don't know.

So it's best to learn it yourself, build your own team, and then teach them what you want done so that you know it gets done right. Plus, it saves you money sometimes because all of these companies outsource ANYWAY so why buy from them and get a markup price? Cut the middle man out and get your own team.

Now, if you don't want to do all of that because of time? That's fine. Use another company to do it as that will save you lots of time in the process and time is money in this business.

[PPV Guru]

Originally Posted by markowe

I agree that is probably a footprint you want to avoid. It makes those 8 sites obviously self-serving. Even if that is something the google algo is not crunching right now it could do in the future. I really mix it up, link out to all kinds of different stuff from the Tier 1s (but always high authority stuff). That way it is impossible to really tell which site is "supposed to be" benefitting from the linking, yet you still get plenty of juice. Who knows, you may even get more since your site is being mentioned in good company

Well as explained above, there are two ways to avoid this problem. First way is to link to a different post on your site. This is why you never link to the same URL over and over again. I only backlink each URL to my sites once, then I never touch it again.

If I want to backlink again, I just create a new post on my money site then start linking. This is safe and doesn't create footprints.

Second way is to link to two or three sources in your blog post or on your page. Somewhere, you need to create a few links to other resources that don't make you money, that don't have a product to sell. I explained that as well in the method.

This eliminates all issues of "footprints" as the 2nd tier linking page appears to be natural.