Private High PR Blog Networks...

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by jinx1221

This isnt a conspiracy theory, like I pointed out before:

"While we have no plans to register domains at this time, we believe this information (registrar whois data) can help us increase the quality of our search results." -Eileen Rodriguez, a Google spokeswoman

You just don't understand the issues. Understandable because you didn't enter this thread to debate the issues in it. Whois information consists of IP, age, nameservers etc. It DOES NOT with privacy bought relate to ownership details. So yes Google and many other services utilize whois information but it is of no significance to domain buying because the issue there is who owns the domain. You are just pretending to know what google does and pretending to know whether Google will violate privacy issues with legal ramifications. Its classic conspiracy theory that is rebutted by the fact that if Google did do such things no SEO network on the planet would work (or the really big ones would go Puff in the night) in Google and they most certainly do.

But no, Im not saying that it always happens, just that Im sure it does. The second article absolutely talks about losing PR from buying aged/ranked domains, if you read it. I havent bought used domains, but that doesnt make my cautionary viewpoint and research invalid.

OF course it does. totally invalidates it . You have never bought a domain and you are claiming what happens when you buy one even claiming to know surely what does. Like I said you do not understand the issues. The second article talks about simple issues related to buying domains that all regular domain buyers understand and has nothing to do with Google being a registrar. I did read it. All of those things on the page would be immaterial if Google was going into private whois information. Changing content and putting the site up ASAP has nothing, zip to so with whois information.

Thing is though I don't even get the point. Like I said theres no link building strategy that google might tag in the future. They may well change the algo entirely next year. SO what? we site around looking at each other until then? .

Don't use BMR because it might go down In the future?
Maybe we will all go social in a year so lets not build any links?

Whats the point really?

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[gearmonkey]

anyone have experience with creating major brand (wordpress, blogspot, etc..) web2.0 sites, adding unique LSI content with your anchor text to your money site embedded in the article, then throw about 50k low quality links at each 2.0 blog and just forget about the campaign? -- then repeat these steps all over again in a new campaign..

In my mind, that seems like a no-brainer blog network method for those who can't afford to build their own.

I personally have not tried it that elaborately though...
Thoughts?

[Carl Brown]

Originally Posted by gearmonkey

anyone have experience with creating major brand (wordpress, blogspot, etc..) web2.0 sites, adding unique LSI content with your anchor text to your money site embedded in the article, then throw about 50k low quality links at each 2.0 blog and just forget about the campaign? -- then repeat these steps all over again in a new campaign..

In my mind, that seems like a no-brainer blog network method for those who can't afford to build their own.

I personally have not tried it that elaborately though...
Thoughts?

I'm been using a blog network service for the last 3 months that helped a lot, but I'll probably cancel next month.

The fiverr gig I mentioned in another post gave me a good start on my own. They created a linkwheel (open) with these 2.0 sites:

wikispaces.com
webs.com
tripod.com
weebly.com
posterous.com
jimdo.com
livejournal.com
multiply.com
orbs.com
yolasite.com
onsugar.com
blog.com

I'm going to build on this by adding content for a couple of my other sites and also add a few more blogs to this list. Then I will start adding backlinks to these sites.

[gearmonkey]

Originally Posted by Carl Brown

I'm been using a blog network service for the last 3 months that helped a lot, but I'll probably cancel next month.

The fiverr gig I mentioned in another post gave me a good start on my own. They created a linkwheel (open) with these 2.0 sites:

wikispaces.com
webs.com
tripod.com
weebly.com
posterous.com
jimdo.com
livejournal.com
multiply.com
orbs.com
yolasite.com
onsugar.com
blog.com

I'm going to build on this by adding content for a couple of my other sites and also add a few more blogs to this list. Then I will start adding backlinks to these sites.

Yeah that's what I was wondering about. In theory, this looks like a no-brainer way to build backlinks and I'm surprised this isn't more talked about on WF.

Personally, I think linkwheels are overrated, but the idea of throwing 50k backlinks to each blog site seems like a valuable way to build backlinks. I'd imagine those blog sites would grow into solid PR2's with very low OBLs on a personal blog designed for your keywords....

Using a Page Rank metric, those 12 blogs are potentially better than any low quality blog network... in theory.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by gearmonkey

Yeah that's what I was wondering about. In theory, this looks like a no-brainer way to build backlinks and I'm surprised this isn't more talked about on WF.

The principle actually has been just remember people are not going to give their best secrets out so variations and details on this are never going to be things people throw around in here in depth. People call it different things - buffer sites, booster sites and the one I use funnel sites. As with most things though if you apply a little creativity and quality to it it does much better. Bare minimum technique? No need to blast to kingdom come just do some really good blog commenting/tumblr links and you get far better juice.

However I would never go long term in those free blogs. You can find hosting at a dollar a month and do whatever you want. Many of the free blogs will delete your stuff. Now light extra unique ip diversity certainly.

[morchman]

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

The principle actually has been just remember people are not going to give their best secrets out so variations and details on this are never going to be things people throw around in here in depth. People call it different things - buffer sites, booster sites and the one I use funnel sites. As with most things though if you apply a little creativity and quality to it it does much better. Bare minimum technique? No need to blast to kingdom come just do some really good blog commenting/tumblr links and you get far better juice.

However I would never go long term in those free blogs. You can find hosting at a dollar a month and do whatever you want. Many of the free blogs will delete your stuff. Now light extra unique ip diversity certainly.

Mike Anthony

After wading through this immensely educational thread ....

I dont want to take advantage but wonder whether I could push a few queries your way in order that I can get the PBN set up bang on from the outset rather than waste valuable time heading down blind alleys.

My main queries are:

Is it best to buy dropped domains with PR (I understand the PR / links may disappear once a new reg is recognised) Or are fresh / new domains ok provided you can get some PR running through them in a few iterations?

I suppose a combination of 1) Dropped domains 2) Currently owned (but private) domains 3) Brand new domains - would not be a problem..?

How would you approach this starting out? If this is secret sauce stuff I understand if you dont want to give too much away

Best wishes

Morchman

[morchman]

Sorry should have added ... Im new to Warrior and definitely new to the concept of private blog networks.

I love the idea of creating my own link real estate with decent rather than spun content.