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Car insurance quotes has 61.4 MILLION results in serps. So not sure what u r talking about Quote:
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When doing your KW research and looking for 50K+ exact searches per month, are you looking at Global or Local? Also, when using your method to find KWs to build a site, how often does it yield a profit vs. being a dud? Typically, when building backlinks directly to your money site, how many backlinks do you set out to build? JT |
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Why on earth would you consider pages in the supplemental SERPs competition? If Google says those pages are junk, what's the point in including them in your own research? I've shown you twice that SERP result number is totally bogus for seo. I'm done trying to explain. Good luck, | |
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Great job!!! No point to argue, you guys want to make money. And he did it, simple. |
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nobody searches with quotations marks thus that search method for determining competition is invalid |
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1 in 5 is a winner on average. For the other ones, if they can make the domain renewal fee i keep them, if not i try to sell them for a few bucks or let them expire. This is good for me because i only invest about 5 hours per site in beginning. 1000 to start. But i do not ping them, i let them get indexed naturally. Yes, using quotes is no good. | |
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Power to you...if you ever feel like proving some of this...I am available and will share - no problem... Cheers! remember to enjoy some of that financial freedom!
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Whatever, qrp would have tossed out car insurance quotes either way. | |
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Just a reminder to people are fairly new to keyword research, SEO, etc, don't worry about overall competition. See if you can beat the top 3 competition. If so, get to work. | |
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Actually this strategy works..but it takes time. I am also ranking on 4,5,6,7 for little less then 50k exact with cpc 28 cents. i get 5-15k traffic from one keyword..ctr is not good. I made me $120 highest. Also, once i strarted ranking for 250 exact for crap keyword on 20 position. Wow but now i lost that keyword. But yes things are possible. So, i replicated and created tons of blogspot. But i am too lazy. Even i make $400+ per month and i am doing good on amazon. But this thing works. |
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But I think you guys both have your points. It makes sense that a keyword phrase will TEND to be easier to rank for if there is a favorable ratio of searchers versus competitors but you still have to consider how strong the pages are that are ranking in the top positions in order to be reasonably sure that you can rank in the top 3 or 4 with a reasonable amount of work. | |
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I've been doing Adsense for years and years and have no dog in this fight, but I must question the OP on the income claims. This has nothing to do with the validity of his method here, but is just pure math. Here's what I mean: Let's do some math people. Number of searches: 350,000 Organic search gets 70%, paid 30% 350,000 x .7 = 245,000 Top spot gets 42% of this traffic, so there's 58% left: 245,000 x .58 = 142,100 searches/month Now you get 20% CTR so that would be a maximum of 142,100 x .2 = 28,420 clicks maximum. So, if you had every single spot on the first page except the first spot, you would have a theoretical maximum monthly payout of 28,420 x .05 = $1,421. Google shares around 65% of this so your take would be $1,421 x .65 or $923.65. Now admitting that you don't have ALL the first page slots, that would make the number at least 12% or so lower so I would say around the $830 mark. So, in short, based SOLELY on the numbers you provided, $2-3K is not achievable. But, my hat's still off to you because we're still talking about almost a thousand dollars for a SINGLE keyword. That's impressive! Newbies: Please take note that finding a keyword phrase that is even close in performance to the OP's keyword phrase is going to be almost impossible to find. In short, thanks for the share and the inspiration. I prefer methods that are simple and easy to break down into doable steps with repeatable results. When you have repeatable results, you have a proven system. With a proven system, you have a successful business and that's what this is. Just my $0.02. |
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There are 773 actual results that Google deemed worthy to show for that keyword. Trying clicking next page and find the result for #774, you can't because the rest are in the "supplement index". Google has put the rest of the websites into the supplement index as they feel they are not worthy to be in the main index, which means they are not your competition, the 773 is the real competitor number. This has been shown many times over by many people, the number of resulting pages you see is only really looked at by beginners as that is whats taught in the countless ebooks and videos. The number of competing pages is still irrelevant, there could be 61 mill or 773, makes zero difference, whats matters is how strong are the above the fold websites. Andy | |
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If they had every spot on the first page, or almost they would be getting WAY MORE Than the 42% number you only included that number which is just the number for the TOP spot, , basically if they owned all the spots on the first page they would be getting like 99 percent of the traffic or clicks...........all your numbers keep talking only about the 42% for the first spot | |
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You said this "So, if you had every single spot on the first page except the first spot ou would have a theoretical maximum monthly payout of 28,420 x .05 = $1,421" Here is why you are wrong You also said 350,000 x .7 = 245,000 Top spot gets 42% of this traffic, so there's 58% left: 245,000 x .58 = 142,100 searches/month Now you get 20% CTR so that would be a maximum of 142,100 x .2 = 28,420 clicks maximum In that calculation you are using the 42% to compute the 28,420 But wait in my top pasted quote you said "if you had every single spot on the first page except the first spot" If you had every single spot on the first page you would get 99 percent of the traffic not 42% |
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| The 100% - 42% = 58% is assuming that each and every searcher clicks on only one listing per search. I don't recall the estimated numbers for each position on page one, but the total is more than 100% because searchers will click on multiple sites returned in serps.
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My 1000 emd maked $80 per month. So, i hate doing mathematics before any results.
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This a great share, and we should forget about million results or thousand results, this does not mean anything until we have money on our account. So op share a good tip, and I think that after we find the good keyword, we need to check how many back links on the 1st, 2nd spot have.
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This is not so easy bro. Can you elaborate on your method of getting backlinks. |
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Nice tip, the key ofcourse is finding that elusive keyword that doesn't have too much competition
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It's great. It's too hard for lazy people like me to play with google |
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qrp, Are these going to be keyword phrases with commercial intent and keyword phrases in which there are advertisers actively bidding on these keyword phrases? Or will the ads that appear for the keyword phrases that you target going to display irrelevant ads that will be enticing for visitors to click? I apologize if that may seem like a silly question but I just want to be certain about the types of keyword phrases that you go after using this method of acquiring keyword phrases. |
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One of my larger sites (not the one is this example) has had organic search engine traffic over the past year driven from over 28,000 keywords (according to Google Analytics). I'm only focused on the SEO for maybe 15 of those. Quote:
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I do not discriminate against any niche. As long as the keyword meets my criteria I will give it a shot. Of course, action keywords can have a higher CTR than non-action keywords (i.e. "find cheap hosting" vs "are bananas healthy"). But I will give anything I find that fits the criteria a go, and then after a month or two you track how it is going and you invest more into the higher performing keyword sites you have. So some sites I will not touch any further after I initially create them, other sites I will add content weekly or monthly depending on how much they are pulling in for me. And if you are doing well with a keyword, you are leaving money on the table by not creating more sites to grab more of the first page spots in Google. Even if you rank #1 in Google, try to create another site and grab the #2 spot as well. Once you get some analytical information from your first site it is easy to spot if you should be building a second, third, fourth site attacking the same keyword. | |||
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Also, do you take into consideration whether keyword phrases have a decent number of advertisers? For example, the following keyword phrases fit your criteria (last time I checked) but they don't seem to have any advertisers: 1. baby games - 74K searches and about 2 million results 2. paycheck calculator - 110K searches and 2.25 million results roughly 3. medium length hair styles - 60K searches and 2.5 million results 4. crossword puzzle maker - 90K searches and 873K results All of the above keyword phrases fit your criteria but none of them really have advertisers nor any real commercial intent. Moreover, when I checked the top 10 the competition was a little competitive but not extremely. | |
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1. baby games - has over 2 billion results - avoid 3. medium length hair styles - has 5.2 million results - avoid (medium length hairstyles has 2.5 million results but the search volume for this is much less) 2 and 4 fit the criteria. now if you had a list of 100 keywords that fit the criteria and you only have time to build 5 sites, you would narrow it down further. for me, if i needed to narrow it down further i'd like at CPC, # of Results in SERPS, and Exact Searches, with a little bit of my gut thrown into it. Both 2 and 4 have 110k exact searches per month. 2 has 2.3 million results and a $2.18 CPC, 4 has 880k results and a 0.37 CPC. While neither may have commercial intent, there still could be relevant and enticing ads (for paycheck calculator I could picture someone advertising on this phrase for something like 'how to increase your paycheck' 'work online and get larger paychecks' etc... for the crossword puzzle there could be ads about 'playing games online'). Will either of these two result in a home run? Probably not. Can either of these possibly pull $50-150 per month, Yes. And these two topics I think would do much better financially with CPA instead of Adsense. For the paycheck calculator i would put a bizz opp offer or a clickbank product offer on there which could pay anywhere from $20-100 depending on which one you promote, and for the crossword puzzle i'd put a cpa offer for a Games Toolbar or something along those lines that pays $1.5-$2.5 per conversion. I know I'm getting off the adsense track here but there is no set definitive formula that will work in every instance. Once you begin to get experience you will be able to fine tune what you are doing to maximize your revenue and make sure you are not leaving money on the table. |
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Cool story, it just shows that having a plan and taking action pays off. Have you tried improving revenue with a premium adsensetheme like CTR theme???? |
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And are you getting the CPC from Google Keyword Tool or the Contextual Targeting Tool (for Adsense)?
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This is the second time I saw people talking about this strategy, focus on one niche is really that benficial? I would try.
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Your post is quite encouraging, but there is no detail to implement it. What I mean is, where do you get a list of all the words in a dictionary and how would you combine them, then find their exact search volumes without getting your IP banned by google for automated search queries. Perhaps, you should write a short article and sell it as a wso? |
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You can get dictionary words online using Google to find lists. You can also hire someone to build a scraper to scrape sites and then remove duplicate words that are found. There are many ways to combine lists of words. In Excel you can create a macro. If you know php you can create a scrip. Or you can hire someone to create one of these for you. I have 50 private proxies that I rent and use. | |||
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Does anyone else hear the BS meter ringing?
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Awesome keyword you came up with, makes me hungry. You're, indeed, right. I usually illustrate like this: Would you fight 2 people who happen to be Bruce Lee level martial artists or would you rather take on 5,000,000 3-month old babies? (Note: no babies are ever harmed in my illustrations). I have yet to come across someone who'd pick the Bruce Lee type adversaries. Even though there's only 2 of 'em. So, why do people not see it when it's SEO? Quote:
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| It's comments like this that take people who share their knowledge and make them question next time if they want to share. Where do I hear a BS meter? It's actually on your blog Barry: "Normally installation and setup of your custom blog would cost you $500." - barrywheeler.ca/custom-blog-for-free/ Nowadays you can get a blog setup for $25 from a multitude of providers. But you keep trying to take advantage of those noobs Barry by selling them on this "$500 value" "custom blog". And if it is a "custom blog" why are you installing the same 9 plugins for everyone, and they have to pick 1 of 6 themes. Kinda defeats the purpose of the word "Custom", huh? See Barry, while you are "helping" people for your $100 hostgator commission I'm actually helping people without the hidden agenda. |
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Whenever I see no signature I read. If there's a signature on an OP that's offering "advice" I stop reading. I can attest to this method working...I stumbled upon it by accident (with products). Anyway, thanks for offering your method to the WF without pushing a BS product, service, newsletter, etc... | |
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So jelaouse wish I could do this I can't create a website
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Fact of the matter is that any search you do using quotes, will give you under 1000 results if you go to the last page of the SERPS. | |
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Even without quotes (still not sure why you said quotes) you'll never get more than 1,000 SERP results. Does it even matter If you have 1,001 SERP results? Who cares what the competition is on page 100 of the SERPs, lol. ![]() No real seo cares about SERP result numbers. | |
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qrp, Your keyword research seems to be too thourogh considering you are looking for keywords with 50k in monthly searches. Can't you find these keywords using more modest methods? |
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I think that the serp result number has some value if you combine it with other factors. Let's say we found a keyword that has a low search result number and with a high search volume. Chances are that the keyword would be something to look more closely at. If the exact keyword isn't on a lot of pages then there may not be a lot of anchor text links with the exact keyword either which means there may be lower competition. This only works if you use quotes to find the search results. Probably why I assumed you were using quotes. If you are going through a ton of keywords this is a pretty effective sifter. Obviously there are exceptions but that doesn't mean it doesn't have any usefulness. | |
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Here's an example (I don't go after this term as it doesn't have enough searches but it is for illustrative purposes): Brangelina (the term for brad pitt/angelina jolie) This used to be a hotter term a few years back, but even today it gets 15k exact global searches a month. Only 1.3M results in Google. And on the first page is the UrbanDictionary.com site. Anytime I see a dictionary site on the first page for a keyword I know the competition is very weak. | |
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Try using Dave Guidon's Keyword Optimizer Pro. It's free at the moment. Or atleast watch his video on You Tube. Textech. |
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Great thread!
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If I understood it right, one such keyword is yoga poses: 60,500 searches, and 4,720,000 results. Would it be a good keyword to use?
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However would your process uncover "brangelina"? | |
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