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So I've put up 40 new micro niche sites last week, and now it's time to rank them! I should mention that these are non-EMDs (exact match domains) but I do have the keyphrase in the domain (ie. allkeyphrase.com, mykeyphrase.com, keyphrase101.com). This is the first time I've done a batch of MNS this big that are not EMDs, so it would be interesting to see where these sites end up next month. HERE’S WHAT I’VE DONE SO FAR:
Please don't ask for the niche, keywords, or my URLs cuz I won't be giving those away. Other than that, feel free to ask questions. |
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Hi Good luck...now get some good backlinks to them and make them rank high on page one..im sure you will soon be able to see money coming in... Cheers |
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I would call this suicide seriously, having 1 website and promote each of the inner pages are a lot work already.
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I'd be interested to monitor this thread.Keep updated. Do you put links between them?Are they on different C class and whois? |
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It does sound crazy, but with the right tools and strategy it is not impossible. | |
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| I don't link any of my niche sites together, I've seen that do more harm than good. All 40 are spread on 10 different C class and all whois are set to private.
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Hey NichePirate, Thinking of challenging myself on some Adsense sites soon as never really done them as never cared too much for the low incomes. So a few questions - 1. What are your earnings per day on the 10 set up previously? 2. Are you worried or have you already hit the $100 a day I hear so much about? 3. What will you/have you done about it and will your sites withstand a manual review? 4. What if your hit with all these small MFA sounding sites (correct me if I'm wrong) by Google? Surely they will link them and all will tank? 5. If they are not Adsense then what monetisation are you doing on them? I am going to run a little test on here with an Adsense site soon I think so will be interesting to see how this one goes. |
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WHat is your "exact" goal you have in mind.. Short term- Long term- Flipping- Adsense Revenue- I have just placed a block of 50 adsense sites up for auction on flippa...so I am just currious. arnold55 mike reynolds | |
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1. Each of the 10 sites I previously set up does about $2 - $5 per day. 2. I have not hit the $100 adsense day yet, but I've seen a buddy of mine well over surpass that already. So I know that it's do-able. 3. All content in these sites are orig written by me and my VA. I do not scrape content or upload spun articles. I also spend a bit of time tweaking the theme / creating banners and making sure the sites look decent. Having some sort of standard of quality is the key. 4. If I were making straight up crappy sites then, yes I would be worried about this . As mentioned on #3, I try to keep a standard of quality which should help. Just remember to stick to the basics.. Is the content good? Does it provide relevant info for the keyword being searched? It is not against the rules to put adsense on multiple sites, so as long as you follow the guidelines, it should be ok.For what it's worth, none of my previous 10 "adsense" sites have been dinged. 5. Plenty of ways to monetize (Amazon, affiliates, Chitika, etc.) just depends on what you're after. But for this batch I'm focusing solely on adsense. Good luck on your test. I hope you get good results! | |
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Short term - Put 40 up these sites up and rank them to page 1. Long term - I'd like to have a 100 of these type of sites, but I'd like to see what happens to these 40 first. I'm thinking to keep 100 for myself and whatever I have in excess will go to... Flipping - Yes, I've thought about Flipping, but not at the moment. Again, I'd like to have a stack of these for myself first. Adsense Rev - I'm more concerned about ranking them at the moment, but if I had to answer that question I would say a modest $2 per site / per day. At 40 sites that should bring this project up to a ~$80 total / day. | |
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I follow somewhat of a similar model, but on a smaller scale. If it were me, I would've just focused on another 10 sites instead of 40 just to make sure they all get the right care and attention needed. Personally, I would start losing track of things if I were building all of those sites at once. Managing them, on the other hand, is a different story and completely do-able. Either way, good luck with this man! It's a lot to take on, that's for sure. Are you analyzing any of these websites after a certain time period at all? I tend to judge them after a solid 60 to 90 days to really get a feel for their potential. If I can't see the potential for growth, the plan is to flip them for a few bucks. Good way to get more cash to reinvest into more sites or other projects! |
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What Wordpress themes do you use? I always seem to find one I like, then I end up tweaking the heck out of it to get it perfect.
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It does seem a lot to undertake, but I have a VA to help me out this time around. I'm a bit OCD sometimes and I do have spreadsheets and schedules set up for these projects which helps me keep track of things. How's your model working out for you? | |
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| Haha yea I know exactly what you mean. Sometimes I spend way too much time messing with code and Photoshopping than I should. I use mostly the free ones and tweak them, but I do throw in thesis and smartblog here and there.
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Right now, I am experimenting with outsourcing the entire process (building out the site, writing and setting up content, ads, etc) - no dedicated VA though. Once I can get that streamlined, I will be able to just work on selecting the niches and building links, saving me some time and allowing me to scale things a lot faster. Until I get that all situated, it's just me, myself and I working on everything right now. So far, so good though, as I am now averaging $25 to $30 per day with only around 13 websites total. I'll keep an eye on your project to see how things are going a month or two down the road. Hopefully you can hit some gold along the way! | |
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I must say that it took some effort to screen quite a few of them to find one good enough for my project. But once you find one that works out, things get much easier. I like how you broke down the tasks of setting up content, building links, etc.. cuz that's basically how my day looks like too haha. Keep it up buddy! I'm rooting for you, and hope you hit some gold too! | |
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I have a few that bring in $2-$4 a day but I'm afraid to commit more work into them with all this talk about more Google updates going around. Quote:
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I find that mine can take a couple months before they start showing in serps even when they are indexed. Have you experienced this? What is your criteria for deciding if a site has potential or not after a 60 or 90 day period? Have all of your niche sites been keepers? | |
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Great project i will keep an eye on it ! Can i ask you what is your strategy to rank, are you doing some backlinking and how ? Good luck and all the best |
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It works. I am using some info domains. They are 11 months old and now i am sending links.
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I am more into adsense niche sites these days. Hope i can find a good lesson from here. Keep us updated specially on earnings and in what time do you have them? And what was the cpc and exact monthy searches were for that website. I have not asked you to reveal your niche ... Have I ... |
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I'll be following along as well. Have a similar project in place starting this week, although with fewer sites on board. The plan is to develop a workflow so that I can easily replicate the effort for new sites. Also am trying to figure out what parts I can best outsource and which I want to keep for the next round. Let's roll.
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Just a quick question, I've been meaning to do something like this for a while now. 1.) How much did the domain names run you? (all of em .com?) 2.) Did you pay extra for the hidden whois crap? From the research I did domains are pretty cheap, but the hidden whois stuff can run up the bill. Whats your opinion on this, is it worth it? |
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I know for me, I can't tell how many sites have been keepers or not. At this point, most of them are worth holding (at least what I've built thus far). I try to give it at least a good 90 days to truly evaluate them and determine whether or not they will grow income-wise. | ||
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I build links a few days after they get indexed so waiting months for showing in SERPs is a very long time. Within 1 or 2 months of slow link building most are ranking under 20, or 50 depending on the keywords. | |
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I divide the type of links I build into "waves" - the first wave generally starts out with a lot of social bookmark-type links, then I work it up to higher PR types in the weeks later. Don't throw all your backlinks at your site(s) at one time. Try to mix 'em up with various tools and/or services. As for these 40 sites, I'm pretty much doing all the link-building myself so I'll be spending the next few weeks just doing that and keeping track of SERP movements. What I've done as of 12/11/11: The past week was the first wave of link building. All 40 sites have been submitted to social bookmarks/directories. Some movement should start happening this week, so I'll check where everything is at tomorrow and update you guys. Total Uniques: 0 Adsense Revenue: 0 | ||
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2. I always put whois privacy on, it's just something I like to do. It's like a habit now. I just think that it is "safer" in case Google wants to b*tch slap all your sites. Does it work? To be honest, I don't know, but I've never had a batch of sites all go down. Is it worth it? I'd rather have privacy on than not. IMO, if your sites happened to get manual reviewed and let's say they think you are doing something wrong, you probably wouldn't want all your whois info exposed to Google's team. If there's anyone out there who does multiple niche sites w/o privacy, let us know your experience. | |||
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This is going to be really interesting to follow. Be sure to keep us posted. Best of luck! |
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![]() Its a great business model very easy money if you just put the ground work in. | |
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Hey great to see a fellow MN builder I currently am working on 75 sites - its been a really long haul and taken me a lot longer than i initially hoped, mainly due to a lot of bad virtual assistants and poor quality articles that have cost me a lot more time. I am still working through all 75 domains, and getting faster now some have been up over a month but have not ranked great, i am experimenting a lot with link techniques and im guessing i will tank quite a few because i like to experiment. by the way im trying EMD and Non EMD like yourself And also i have not put privacy on the domains - so yes maybe too experimental for my own good, but with so much heresay i kinda like to just go against the flow sometimes... oh well - ill be following this post too good luck to you PM me if you want to compare notes ![]() |
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I am just interested in which way did you determine your competition in Google?
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Trust me, I have also gone through this and I also started out on a mission to rank EMDs and monetize them with adsense. It was really difficult to concentrate on so many websites and I did not end up ranking all of them. Now, I only concentrate on three main websites and I am focusing on building them up and making the posts rank for their respective keywords. | |
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Subscribed. Should be a great thread to follow.
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This didn't last long ... no updates for 2 weeks.
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40 sites at once is too much work, I did that in the past it was a completly disaster, I didn't have time to work on them and now most of them are lost through google pages, slowly I'm adding more content and then I will do backlinks. Lesson learnt: no more many sites! work in few first and then move on... I think when you buy domain with privacy, you're hiding something on google eyes, not good for seo in my opinion. Becareful if you purchase domain from Godaddy, they are supporting SOPA and they are losing hundreds of clients overtime, you can find some thread on this forum about it. Regards, Quote:
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Maybe OP just took a break from the holidays. I've been subscribed for a while and watching this also. I too tried this and didn't like the results. I wasted a lot of time and should have focused on one or two at a time instead of the 20 that I started with...I'm still working them slowly over time but I don't think I'll be building any more MN sites after this batch...Time to focus on slightly larger sites.
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"TAKE ACTION" is the first thing everyone tells you and then they leave it at that. I'll add a second part: TRACK EVERYTHING" - It's the only way to ensure your ACTION leads to results.
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The whole MN thing is really hard unless you're going outsources almost everything. At least at anykind of scale. I'm in the process of doing 100, and have been in the process for way to long. For instance, right now I have 5-10 articles for 39 sites sitting in dropbox waiting to be loaded on to my sites. I've been trying to find someone to do this because I'd rather stab myself in the eye with a pen, but just been to busy with other stuff. Anyway, good luck to everyone. I've already switched to larger sites. I'll get these all done, ranking, making some money and flip them asap so I can get out of this crazy game. |
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Hey guys good info here. My question is this because I am looking at launching about 30 niche sites. I have hit the $100+ a day mark with Adsense with many different sites. So everyone talks about who is privacy which I do, no analytics which I do, but if we are running adsense then google still knows. Lol Right? I mean I'm not that worried I make sure my sites are legit but I keep seeing all the diff class c, privacy etc but at end of day you are running the same Adsense account. Ok maybe you even have 2 Adsense accts I guess the big ? Is if you have 40 sites all in same niche running same Adsense acct, is google gonna even give a crap if you are giving a good user experience and sending quality clicks? |
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Hey guys! I'm so sorry it took this long for an update. I was actually out of the country in the past month and didn't get to work on the project as much as I wanted to. In any case, a few things have changed. The set no longer has 40 sites, but rather 38. I had to cut 3 out and added 1 emd in the mix back in December. I want to share you guys the results, but I'd like to say this project is going to take longer than I expected. So I'll keep you guys updated. |
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![]() btw, are the 100 MNS you're working on emds? Quote:
As far as that goes, every case might be different. As for me, I'm basing my confidence on the first 10 MNS I made last year which have no problems so far. | ||
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Here are the ranking results I pulled from last week: ![]() As you can see only 1 site is in the first page which happens to be the emd. It got there within a month's time. It gets about 100 UV /day at #2 position. So not bad at all. The rest (non-emds) are still dancing around the serps. All sites get the same amount of backlink treatment. All sites are indexed, but only half are in top 100. So far I say emds still rock. We'll continue link building and let you guys know how they move this week. |
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