How long before you can expect ranking improvements

[alxvallejo]

This is the first time I'm pitching my SEO services and I'm not sure what timeframe I should tell them to expect before they notice improved rankings. Assuming I put in all the effort for backlink building, citations, SEO audits, a little social media...what would you guys say?

[elizabethjean733]

Before plane to rank your website or keywords you should concentrate on on-page seo because the main and effective thing is on-page seo then you should start work on off-page seo. However, try to get high quality, do-follow and relevant backlinks then you can achieve your goals rapidly.

[bodmov]

Normal time is 3-6 months, but there different keywords rank for different time, the time can be more than a year, or less that a week, if you know how to do it.

[alxvallejo]

Originally Posted by bodmov

Normal time is 3-6 months, but there different keywords rank for different time, the time can be more than a year, or less that a week, if you know how to do it.

Knowing how to do it is easy. You'd have to really neglect your SEO research to not know how to build backlinks, on-site audit, etc. Unless there's some secret that they aren't telling me? Quality backlinks + citations + some press releases + some social media + on-site audit = SEO. God help me if I've come this far and have missed the message.

So what separates a year from a week in terms of improved ranking turnover?

[onlinemarketer23]

hey mate,

the timeframe google needs for a site to go upward or downward in the search results pages depends mainly on different circumstances.. specially the importance of sites getting ranked high.. let´s imagine you targeting a keyword that wikipedia.com holds a number one position.. most probably this wikipedia url would have thousands of backlinks pointing to it.. so in this event..getting the number one spot is somehow a matter of patience and consistence!!

just explain this to your customer and wish a very successful career as a SEO service marketer!!

cheers to all..

[clarajames]

It will depend on keyword weightage and I think it will take 3 to 4 months to appear on first page.

[alxvallejo]

Originally Posted by clarajames

It will depend on keyword weightage and I think it will take 3 to 4 months to appear on first page.

I also want to introduce the question of 'why'. At this point, I'm telling my client that it depends on two things: the search engine algorithm and your competitors SEO. Yes of course, if you're going up against Wikipedia you need a million + 1 backlinks etc.

But do you say that it takes 3-4 months just in the fact that it takes that much time to acquire X many backlinks? It certainly doesn't take that long for spiders to count the backlinks and give you a page rank score. I figure that the moment after you acquire your competitor's # of backlinks + 1, it takes a matter of days before the spider sees that + 1 and bumps you in the rankings. Of course I'm being simplistic but I'm just trying to figure out if the timing issue is mostly weighed towards acquiring links vs. Google recognizing those SEO efforts.

[paulgl]

Originally Posted by alxvallejo

This is the first time I'm pitching my SEO services and I'm not sure what timeframe I should tell them to expect before they notice improved rankings. Assuming I put in all the effort for backlink building, citations, SEO audits, a little social media...what would you guys say?

No offense, but haven't you done this before?
You are, after all, selling services...

How long did it take for the plethora of sites that
you have worked on in the past?

Did you ever work on any sites? Didn't you keep
track of "how long" ?

Nobody here can answer the question.

Before pitching one's services, one should have
services to pitch, along with a track record.

I myself would be mad if I was hiring someone and
they and they had to go to the WF to ask, "How long?"

Paul

[alxvallejo]

I understand that concern. This is my second client. My first client already had good rankings and I focused mainly on best practices and SEM. This client referred me to a new client and now I'm pitching them based on limited experience. But hey, a client is a client and I need to start somewhere.

[aygabtu]

The original question was concerning improved rankings, not the #1 position. I'd say after whatever effort you put in, the client should start noticing improvements in a week or two with a peak in 30-60 days.

Obviously there will be other factors like competitor efforts, your own clients efforts and organic back linking that will continue to alter the results, but for the most part, I think google will process everything you do and render the end result between 30 to 60 days.

[paulgl]

Originally Posted by aygabtu

I think google will process everything you do and render the end result between 30 to 60 days.

That makes no sense. Like, we now have a time table to
wait on google?

Newsflash: Google changes the algo at least twice a day.

60 days? Then no improvement, so you what, give up?

I have to wait 30 days?!?!?! Man what about my competition
in those 30 days? Are they waiting?

The question cannot be answered. Period.

But at least we now have THE answer. Your SEO efforts
do not go into effect until 30-60 days. Take notes!

Paul

[carlenesky]

Before Google updates every 3 months or 6 months but now because of the new algorithm, they updates randomly anytime and we can say that you can see the result in a month or two.

[NiyazK]

i would 30 to 60 days if you know what you are doing

[TBInternetMarketing]

Originally Posted by paulgl

No offense, but haven't you done this before?
You are, after all, selling services...

I must admit, this is exactly what I was thinking myself?

Only experience will tell you this kind of thing, but even then, no one can tell for sure. Unless you work for Google, and had an integral part in writing their algorithm, it's hard to be sure. 3-6 months in my experience is usually a decent time frame to start seeing some ranking results.

occasionally my sites rank sooner, occasionally they never rank at all, but work on 3-6 months

[Juvv2096]

Originally Posted by elizabethjean733

Before plane to rank your website or keywords you should concentrate on on-page seo because the main and effective thing is on-page seo then you should start work on off-page seo. However, try to get high quality, do-follow and relevant backlinks then you can achieve your goals rapidly.

Agreed. Off page SEO is last. Sort out the site first then do the backlink building.

No amount of backlink building will help if the site is garbage.