$0 to $40/day In My First 4 Months (Lessons Learned)

[Chasing Pace]

I've come a long way in the past 4 months. I first found out about Internet Marketing (IM) when I was doing research for my first blog and happened upon the Warrior Forum (WF). For the first couple months I was probably on WF nearly every day trying to glean as much information as I possibly could. Now that I'm starting to earn a little bit (around $1300 last month) I figured I'd share my journey with ya'll.

I know I struggled a lot when I first started, and if it wasn't for WF I might not have made it. Hope this helps and motivates everyone a bit.

*Disclaimer: I am no IM expert/guru, this is just a quick story with a little bit of data and information I used to reach $40/day after just 160 days. Also, this is probably going to be a looooong post.

My First Sites

When I first started I was a tad bit obsessed with creating Made for Adsense (MFA) sites. I didn't understand creating a bunch of crap on the internet isn't the way to go. Nor did I really understand that Google is actually trying to return quality information to their users.

So, from the advice of a couple people I met on WF, I started in a very shady niche. Unfortunately, at the time, I had no concept of copyright/trademark laws and ended up purchasing about 10 domains that all contained some form of a copyrighted name, like "Nike" or "Reebok".

I can tell you right now, regardless of how great the CTR is, or how easy it may be to rank DO NOT BREAK COPYRIGHT LAWS. It's not a good business practice and it's really not worth it to put in a lot of time and effort just to receive a C&D letter taking the site away from you, or worse. Google "DCMA" if you want to learn more.

Keyword Research

After I got out of the that niche I finally figured out about keyword research, whereas I had previously created sites based on almost no research and just what a few people had told me.

Tools in my Arsenal: Long Tail Pro (LTP), Google Adword Keyword Tool (GAKT), Soovle, SEOBook Toolbar, SerpIQ, My Sister and My Wife, My Brain, My Passion, My House

There's not exactly a shortage of information on keyword research, so I'm not going to get too far into the details. How you do keyword research will depend entirely on the types of sites you are looking to build. I personally build a mixture of sites at varying competition levels.

For low comp sites I use methods very similar to Spencer at Niche Pursuits. I primarily use LTP and GAKT. A quick tip, I use SerpIQ to double check my research. I usually don't proceed unless I get a SerpIQ less than 40. I've been able to rank some sites with a SerpIQ of 32-35 with 0 backlinks and they've stayed top 10 for 3-4 months.

Here is my criteria for low comp sites:

• 750 exact/local/monthly searches
• $1 CPC (though I'll go lower if searches increase a bit)
• EMD available in .com, .net., .org
• PR average of top 10 less than 3, prefer less than 2 and at least 1 PR 0 and hopefully a PR N/A
• Prefer to see a few sites with 0 backlinks to page, and a few with less than 10
• No more than 1 root domain in top 10
• Visual inspection of On-Page SEO. Is the keyword in the title? description? all over the site? Basically is the site optimized to rank for that keyword or not

Here is my criteria for the rest of my sites:

• At least 2,000 total exact/local/monthly searches for ALL the keywords I'll be targeting. I don't listen to what everyone says about how you need 10,000 searches to profit. I've made sites with only 320 searches a month that make $2-$5 a day.
• Am I passionate about it? These are my long term sites that I'm going to build up over time, so I want it to be about things I'm passionate about. If you struggle here, think of off shoots. For example, let's say you love fishing. Obviously ranking for fishing is going to be tough. But what if you had a product site around "the best fishing shirt or hat" or "the best fishing gps", these may be less competitive and they still allow you to write about something you like. You can also add a ton of great quality content by just adding some general fishing articles to the site.

That's pretty much it. I'll glance at the top 10 and see the comp, I rarely bother much with it. I rank these sites by going after tons of long tails. I don't care if they get 10, 20, or 200 searches a month I go after them, starting with ones I can rank for instantly. I target keywords other people aren't willing to.

You may still be wondering, but where exactly do I come up with keywords?

In order to succeed you've got to get in this mindset: EVERYTHING IS A KEYWORD. Everyone talks about looking at the Amazon Best Sellers, or looking through Flippa Auctions or at high gravity items on Click Bank. Well, I do none of that crap. Instead I find seed keywords by using the resources around me.

First off, I look in my house. If I own something it's likely other people own it. The other day I made a site based on an item sitting on my countertop. I've made about $10 in 20 days, which isn't a lot, but I haven't done anything but put up a few product reviews.

Secondly, I ask my mom and sister. Laugh all you want, if you're not targeting things that women do/buy then you're missing out. I find out all the things my sister buys at Publix, Walmart, the mall, etc. I'll talk to my mom (who is retired) about what she does during the day, etc. It's unbelievable some of the great keywords that come out of them.

Thirdly, I talk to my wife. Like I said above, women are your money makers. They're absolutely click happy. I ask my wife what are things she would buy. Sometimes I'll just pick 10 items on Amazon and simply say, "Would you buy this online?" I'll ask her why or why not and from there I usually find even more keywords.

Fourth, I use my brain. Finding keywords is more common sense than anything else. People make it way, way too difficult. If it seems like a stupid keyword, it probably is (though that's not always the case). I'm an engineer and I see the numbers behind everything. So, when I'm walking through the mall or in Walmart or at the movies I now see the numbers behind keywords. I look at what old people are doing, why kids are crying, what are dads wearing, etc. I look at EVERYTHING. If it's even a possibility I jot it down or put it in my wife's iPhone to analyze later.

That's typically how I find my seed keywords. From there I'll go to Soovle or use Long Tail Pro to really narrow down my seed keywords to either long tails I can target or build a site around.

A lot of my sites fail. My methods are not flawless. I've purchased 48 domains in the past 4 months. Of those 48 I am working on around 10-12 sites. And of those 10-12 90% of my income comes from 3-4 of them. You are going to fail, you just need to keep at it.

Content Creation

For my lower comp sites they're typically only 4-5 pages and 4-5 posts and after ranking them I don't touch them much.

For my higher comp sites they're getting to be quite large. I think my largest site has around 15 pages and over 100 posts (300-800 words long).

I currently write all my content. However I just hired my first writer, who will be writing around 20,000 words a month for some of my link building. I thought outsourcing was overrated, but what everyone says is right...you can't do it all yourself, and it's just going to be painful if you do.

On-Page SEO

I'm still learning a bit in this department, but I can say from experience optimizing your site for your keywords is HUGE. I've moved up entire pages in rankings after optimizing. I put my first priority here on every site I make.

My keywords are always in the title. Even for my newer branded sites I have the keywords in the title. I use All in One SEO and regardless of what everyone says I still fill out the meta description and meta keywords. I'm fairly confident this helps rank in Bing/Yahoo a bit faster.

I'll also try to link back to my home page and to another post with each new post. I don't force this, but if it makes sense and helps the reader I'll interlink.

Monetization

I used to monetize entirely with Google Adsense, and that's where most of my income comes each month (about $900/mo just from adsense). I keep it simple and usually just place a 336x280 or 300x250 block in the top right of each page/post. I test out text only versus image/text and after about a month will just go with one and leave it. I've found more luck with text only, but I know that's not the case with every niche.

I've also recently been creating a lot of Amazon sites. I have about 5 Amazon sites up and running and in my first 2 months have made around $300 with Amazon. I'm on track to do about the same this month. My Amazon sites are usually based around a general product, such as "basketball shoes." On the site I'll do product reviews, product accessories, product articles and product tips. My product articles and product tips usually don't contain affiliate links, so I can balance out the site some and it doesn't look like total crap.
Themes/Plugins

I currently use a combination of themes. My lower comp adsense sites all use CTR. My long term sites use Pagelines, and my Amazon sites mostly use some themes from Themeforest.

I don't use free themes. I probably should, and I've wasted A LOT of money on "premium" themes, but I can't stand having my sites look like crap (though CTR isn't exactly beautiful).

I knew nothing about css/html when I started, but I'm slowly learning some. I highly recommend everyone learn the basics...at least.

Here's a quick list of plugins I use:

Mandatory

• All in One SEO
• Contact Form 7
• Askimet

Optional:

• Pretty Link Lite
• Related Post Thumbnails
• Backup Buddy (not free)

As you can see I don't use a lot of plugins...yet.

Off-Page SEO

I hate link building, absolutely hate it. But unfortunately it's necessary for most niches. Here is a basic breakdown of what I do:

• Week 1: social bookmarks
• Week 2: submit to top directories, a few blog comments
• Week 3: forum comments (not profiles), Web 2.0 sites or free blogs
• Week 4: article marketing, just a couple to ezine, goarticles, etc.
• Week 5: private blog networks
• Week 6: guest posting (if I can find any)
• Rinse and Repeat weeks 3-5, including blog comments

Those are my basics. I don't follow it to the smallest detail, but I generally don't start link building much until after month 1. I like to let the site settle a lot.

I don't pay a lot of attention to PR and prefer to post on sites relative to my niche. Though I can say that if you can find a handful of PR3+ sites to get some quality in text links, you're golden.

With my newer sites I've had a lot of success by spending month 1 publishing 1 quality article per day. I've been able to ride the new content bonus wave and usually rank quicker after it drops off with some posts on private blog networks.

I'm also starting to look heavily into Guest Posting and I really think this is the single best form of link building. I recently joined The Keyword Academy and their Post Runner system is pretty awesome. I recommend everyone check them out.

One thing I've been doing a lot lately is responding to questions in forums. I've found a lot of people search the forums for "Best Keyword". So I'll go into them and respond with "I think the best keywords is blank and here is why. I also found this great site www[dot]mysite[dot]com. Some of my Amazon sites are getting 20-30 visitors a day from just a few forums. And I can tell you that these people ending up in forums are ready to buy and convert very well.

Going Forward

I'm focusing less and less on my lower comp/thin adsense sites. They don't add a lot of quality to the internet and I'm not sure they'll make it through many more algo updates.

My focus is on quality sites in niches that I like. While I'm making good money from Adsense I'm leaning more and more towards Amazon, only because it seems to be more conducive to the kinds of sites I enjoy creating.

[meihualam]

Thanks! Great post. I'm just really getting started though I've been "lurking" for quite some time. Gives me something concrete to get started with.

[dadamson]

Nice post man!

It's these kinds of posts that instill enthusiasm and drive to new IMers.

It also lays the cold hard truth on the line! Failure is HUGE in this game.

You said you purchased nearly 50 domains, of them you are only working on 10 or so of them and only 3-4 are actually making any money!

People think that one thing will work first go, honestly it doesn't.

The only thing gurus or experienced IMers know that you don't is they have an experienced view on what will work vs what won't work. As for the actual methods and procedures, these are the same as everything demonstrated here on the forum.

As you stated onpage SEO is highly important, especially since the Panda updates where Google is reinstating quality to it's users. Don't "over-optimize" though, when I say optimize I mean work on lots of high quality content which is focused to your visitors, not keyword-stuffed text blocks.

Keep working on it man, that $1,300 per month will turn into $13,000 per month sooner than you think!

Dave

[Kris79]

Thank for sharing.

Few questions:
- Off-page SEO - do you use it only for high comp sites, do you do any backlinking for you low sites, or it depands
- do you use only EMD or would you buy also phrase match (with prefix or something)

[TryBPO]

Great post. We too are looking at this as a numbers game. Depending on your exact process a certain percentage of micro niche sites simply never rank and therefore never earn. Some earn a lot less than expected because your CPC and advertiser research was off (or at least the data provided to you was off).

We tell people all the time -- get off the forums and start building sites. Try things out. You be amazed at what works, but you have to stick with it.

[Larry Darrell]

Nice post! I'll look forward to following your progress in your blog

[Bryan V]

Good to hear! You've hit levels most people trying AdSense will never see.

Sure, it's a numbers game but there are ways to lower that failure rate. By now, you must have noticed some pattern showing why they didn't make the cut right?

[Juvv2096]

Good read, I like the story behind the success mate.

How many hours a week you spending trying to manage it all?

[Chasing Pace]

Originally Posted by Kris79

Thank for sharing.

Few questions:
- Off-page SEO - do you use it only for high comp sites, do you do any backlinking for you low sites, or it depands
- do you use only EMD or would you buy also phrase match (with prefix or something)

I do off page SEO for all sites, it's just that my lower comp sites don't need a lot usually. Typically some social bookmarks, a few blog comments, and 10-20 contextual backlinks is all they need to rank.

For my lower comp sites I only use EMD. In the short run I've found it adds a little bonus to ranking faster. I've tried adding prefix/suffix and found it didn't work as well.

For my longer term sites I never use EMD. I pick a branded name and then work on branding that site.

[Chasing Pace]

Originally Posted by Bryan V

Sure, it's a numbers game but there are ways to lower that failure rate. By now, you must have noticed some pattern showing why they didn't make the cut right?

I'm definitely getting better at weeding out bad niches. Of the past 10 sites I've built, I'd say 4 of them are looking pretty good.

How many hours a week you spending trying to manage it all?

When I first started I worked as much as I possibly could. Off work at 6pm, home and working on sites from 7pm to 1 or 2am, everyday for about 2 months.

Lately, with the help of my wife I've got a content/link building schedule (I set a specific number of articles/words I want to hit each night). I work each night from 7:45pm to 10:45pm. So that's about 20 hours a week. This isn't work to me though, I love spending time on my sites.

[bjd461]

Very nice, and thanks for sharing.
I always love hearing these success stories.
Inspiring!

[trafficmasters]

Agreed its always nice to read about something meeting there goal!

congrats

[Hobo82]

Thanks for sharing your story. I know as for myself a couple of months ago I joined Amazon Associates have 2 sites getting visitors on the sites but no orders as of yet. I guess it takes time. Once again thanks for your info, I know it will help me. Have a great holiday.

Hobo82

[penpoint]

Good work. Thanks for the info. If you want to try a decent free theme take a look at Weaver. They can be made to look pretty good and, while they are not SEO optimized out of the box, they are fairly easy to get SEO ready.

Luck to you.

[larkykid]

Inspiring post, and well done to your recent success. Do you host all your sites on the same account, or do you spread them out a bit between different accounts?

If you host all your sites on the same account, have you noticed any ranking difficulties or has it not really made an impact?

[Chasing Pace]

Originally Posted by larkykid

Inspiring post, and well done to your recent success. Do you host all your sites on the same account, or do you spread them out a bit between different accounts?

If you host all your sites on the same account, have you noticed any ranking difficulties or has it not really made an impact?

I don't host all my sites on the same account. However, it's only recently (about 2 weeks ago) that I purchased another hosting account.

So, most of my sites are still on one account and I've experienced no problems ranking any sites.

[MaryaZ]

It was great reading about your journey. I like the way you think out of the box for your keywords.

[outwest]

Sounds like a lot of domains bought never got used
I do that too but try to do it as little as possible

I am not a fan of the EMD buy a new domain for each new Kw thingy

[CoryW]

Congrats. I started about 4 months ago as well...up to about $150 per month now in Adsense revenue. 19 sites and only a handful are ranked high enough to make money. I build backlinks very slowly, but my patience is diminishing.

[Chasing Pace]

Originally Posted by outwest

Sounds like a lot of domains bought never got used
I do that too but try to do it as little as possible

I am not a fan of the EMD buy a new domain for each new Kw thingy

I used all of the domains. A lot of them just didn't pan out, and some of them I just let die because I felt like they offered low quality.

I build backlinks very slowly, but my patience is diminishing.

For my newer sites I'm building links very slowly as well. It does test your patience. However, most of my goals are 3 year goals. It took me a few months to get over "instant gratification syndrome", but once you can sit back and build for the future I think you end up building higher quality links which will last in the long run.

[Russel Mogul]

Good stuff, now take this thread down , create a video course and go promote this in the WSO section. I might even buy it and give a rave review!

[golf69]

good to see someone making a few bucks with adsense...great way to make money

[maclennan]

Thanks for this..

This is a great story,showing that it is difficult,but possible, to make money at this business, it is inspirational for people to hear stories of true experience,rather than claims of making $1,000'ss a day. Well done!!! ...

Once again,thanks for sharing, will follow you blog, and take some of your ideas..

[nancyjan]

Thanks for the great post and information.

[athink]

Thanks for the post bro very informative.

[chrislu]

i noted this list of tool of you, merci

[outwest]

My question is with your new strategy of 2000 exact monthly, (minimum I assume)
are you only going to go for EMDs again?
If so I think you are missing a lot of kws that are great kws, just because they dont have the EMDs you pass them by? I think thats a mistake

I think you guys who judge if a kw is good or not by not necessarily the top 10 Google competition, but by whether the EMDs are available, that confuses me

what if a kw has pathetic competition on top 10 google, but some idiot domain squatter already bought all the EMDs? so then you pass that kw right by then? just because the EMDs are not available? That makes no sense at all

Example
For a new niche I am going after I spent a TON of time researching
I found kws with 12000, 15000 EXACT searches per month (local)
these kws had some top 3 places on google with backlinks of
5, 10, 0
seriously
with that many monthly searches

now were they easy to find HELL NO
but I didnt look if they had EMDs available, because it makes zero difference to me, I can easily rank these pages for these kws, on an authority domain for that niche

if I had looked for EMDs like you guys do and said, OOPS NO EMD, go on to the next kw
that would have been very foolish

ah well u guys keep buyin those EMDs

[Juvv2096]

Originally Posted by outwest

My question is with your new strategy of 2000 exact monthly, (minimum I assume)
are you only going to go for EMDs again?
If so I think you are missing a lot of kws that are great kws, just because they dont have the EMDs you pass them by? I think thats a mistake

I think you guys who judge if a kw is good or not by not necessarily the top 10 Google competition, but by whether the EMDs are available, that confuses me

what if a kw has pathetic competition on top 10 google, but some idiot domain squatter already bought all the EMDs? so then you pass that kw right by then? just because the EMDs are not available? That makes no sense at all

Example
For a new niche I am going after I spent a TON of time researching
I found kws with 12000, 15000 EXACT searches per month (local)
these kws had some top 3 places on google with backlinks of
5, 10, 0
seriously
with that many monthly searches

now were they easy to find HELL NO
but I didnt look if they had EMDs available, because it makes zero difference to me, I can easily rank these pages for these kws, on an authority domain for that niche

if I had looked for EMDs like you guys do and said, OOPS NO EMD, go on to the next kw
that would have been very foolish

but you EMD worshippers, only look for kws with EMD available
which to me is very foolish

Very good points here. I would have to agree with you. For my local business, I rank very high for keywords that arent in my domain. IF your on page SEO is good, and your backlinks are strong, you can rank for any keyword regardless if its in your URL.

If you are so worried about ranking with the keyword in the domain, create a page specifically for it thats not your home page. This is my strategy for every single site I work with.

Choose 20 keywords, then create sub pages specific for that keyword. It still holds lots of relevence and shows up in google on the url even if its not the top level EMD.

Eg. for people who dont understand what im saying:

Keyword : Dog Training

www.thetrainerz.com/services/dog-training

[Chasing Pace]

Originally Posted by outwest

My question is with your new strategy of 2000 exact monthly, (minimum I assume)
are you only going to go for EMDs again?
If so I think you are missing a lot of kws that are great kws, just because they dont have the EMDs you pass them by? I think thats a mistake

I think you're slightly confused on my strategy. I make 2 different types of websites.

Short Term

These are smaller sites (maybe 10-15 pages) that I create strictly based on keyword research and the criteria I use above. I can easily rank these sites and keep them on page 1 within 3-4 weeks. I then use the income I generate from these short term sites to fund my long term sites.

I call these short term sites because I put very little effort into them and I believe they could easily drop in the SERPs with a Google update. Why do I make "thin sites" if I believe they could easily drop? Because the return on investment is super high and they require very little time, maybe a few hours to build the site and 1 hour a week for a month and that's it.

I use EMDs because I've had better experience ranking a site quicker with EMDs. Am I missing out on some keywords? Probably. But I don't put much effort into these sites. I just write a few high quality articles and rank the site to start generating income.

Long Term

These are larger sites and really the sites I plan on using to generate enough revenue to live off of. While keyword research does play a part in these sites, I mostly create these sites around what I'm passionate about. I use a brandable domain name for these sites. This is where 90% of my effort goes.

I think you guys who judge if a kw is good or not by not necessarily the top 10 Google competition, but by whether the EMDs are available, that confuses me

I don't judge keyword's profitability by whether or not the EMD is available. I decide on whether or not I will pursue that keyword. I specifically choose not to pursue keywords that do not have EMDs (for my short term sites) because I've found it harder to rank them and don't want to put in the effort, that's all.

what if a kw has pathetic competition on top 10 google, but some idiot domain squatter already bought all the EMDs? so then you pass that kw right by then? just because the EMDs are not available? That makes no sense at all

I haven't come across this yet. If I happened upon something like this I would consider going after it.

Example
For a new niche I am going after I spent a TON of time researching
I found kws with 12000, 15000 EXACT searches per month (local)
these kws had some top 3 places on google with backlinks of
5, 10, 0
seriously
with that many monthly searches

now were they easy to find HELL NO
but I didnt look if they had EMDs available, because it makes zero difference to me, I can easily rank these pages for these kws, on an authority domain for that niche

if I had looked for EMDs like you guys do and said, OOPS NO EMD, go on to the next kw
that would have been very foolish

ah well u guys keep buyin those EMDs

I hope your method continues to serve you well. My method just happens to be different.

[gregmac037]

Great share.. Very Inspiring.. I love your story... Good Luck on your journey...

[dncserv]

Wow, just what I was looking for !!!
Finally someone with a REAL life experience.
I have been reading posts and WSO's and all sorts of things. Been promised everything and found practically nothing!!!
There have been some positives (this is one) with people who want to truly help newbie IM'ers and I have learned a lot from them. e.g.
Be patient
be consistent with quality
be resilient when things fail (as they have and will)
Be sure to find people you CAN TRUST and LISTEN TO THEM.

This is one post I am going to print out, put in my notebook and refer back to so that I can remind myself to keep going and my business WILL grow.

Thanks for all the helpful info.

[Andy Hart]

SOOVLE looks pretty cool didn't know about that, would be even better if there was a soovle scraper.

Do you know of one??

[outwest]

Originally Posted by dncserv

Wow, just what I was looking for !!!
Finally someone with a REAL life experience.
I have been reading posts and WSO's and all sorts of things. Been promised everything and found practically nothing!!!
There have been some positives (this is one) with people who want to truly help newbie IM'ers and I have learned a lot from them. e.g.
Be patient
be consistent with quality
be resilient when things fail (as they have and will)
Be sure to find people you CAN TRUST and LISTEN TO THEM.

This is one post I am going to print out, put in my notebook and refer back to so that I can remind myself to keep going and my business WILL grow.

Thanks for all the helpful info.

Try the Adsense100k course
I got that and its the best blueprint I have found on Adsense

[lostcyclist]

Man.

I'm still blown away.

Really appreciated the break-down between your two types of sites and what you look for in keywords

I tend to just try to find a couple stronger words that have over 5,000 monthly, and then shoot for a lot of long-tails around them that have as little as 100/ monthly. I think it makes it easier to find words with less competition that way.

Although, 2012 is going to really tell. I'm going to be really excited to see what Chasing Pace unfolds!

[yukon]

Originally Posted by Andy Hart

SOOVLE looks pretty cool didn't know about that, would be even better if there was a soovle scraper.

Do you know of one??

Do your search on soovle then highlight the whole page (text) & Right click, Copy, then Paste into a new text file on your desktop.

[DGFletcher]

I liked what you said about 'instant gratification versus 3 year goals'. My question is what do I do about the fact that I have a $250 rent, a $80 phone bill and a $50 food bill, plus website expenses that do need to be 'instant gratified' in order for me to have time to sit down and start working on 3 year goals? Especially that darn rent bill.

Everything else I can pretty much cover through sit-down-once and freelance crap.

[Chasing Pace]

Originally Posted by DGFletcher

I liked what you said about 'instant gratification versus 3 year goals'. My question is what do I do about the fact that I have a $250 rent, a $80 phone bill and a $50 food bill, plus website expenses that do need to be 'instant gratified' in order for me to have time to sit down and start working on 3 year goals? Especially that darn rent bill.

Everything else I can pretty much cover through sit-down-once and freelance crap.

I think your question was more rhetorical, but I wanted to respond because this kind of hit home with me.

I can't remember if I said this above or not, but I work a full time job from 7am to 6pm and sometimes on the weekend. All the work I do on my sites is in addition to that work, and when I first started that was around 6-7 hours a night, though now it's around 3-4.

So, if you add that up I was probably working 100 hours a week for the first couple months and around 80 hours a week now. I guess my answer is the only thing you can do is continue to work hard and keep your costs down by doing everything yourself. That should leave you with only $15/mo or so in basic hosting/domain costs.

P.S. I got rid of my Blackberry ($90/mo) to buy into a private blog network at $75/mo

[BettyM]

Inspiring post. I started with goals like paying the cable bill, then the electric bill.

Now I want to pay off my mortgage. Achieivable goals are the way to stay on track.

Plus now you have a skill that you can charge consulting fees for. That is where I make my major income. Adsense/Amazon sites are more of a hobby for me and keep my skill level high on blogging and SEO. You also gain a portfolio you can use to impress clients.

[mikkyone]

Thanks for sharing with us. It was a very interesting and useful. I will definitely try and apply some of your methods. Great Post.

[WakondaMarketing]

This is one of the "eureka" and "aha" moments that I really love to read. Congratulations and more success to you!

[Chasing Pace]

Originally Posted by mikkyone

Thanks for sharing with us. It was a very interesting and useful. I will definitely try and apply some of your methods. Great Post.

Good deal, let me know how it goes.

Also I'm going to be doing a pretty sweet Case Study starting around Christmas. Going to reveal my methods from start to finish in a niche challenge of sorts. I'm sure I'll be back in a couple weeks with a post on here if anyone is interested.

[gtk29]

I have come across this kind of well written nice post in a long while. Good work bro ! and Thanks

[charlescl]

Thanks for sharing.
Ah, you just use three wordpress plugins, I used a lot.

will take your advices of the off page SEO.

[Alex Liu]

Can't imagine how simple you made everything. I used the same method and have been making a living for sometime. Great share.

[JuicerFan]

Hey Adsense Experts.

Anyone know how to deal with people giving you multiple clicks.

Maybe they are trying to be nice. Maybe they are trying to mess with your Adsense Hustle. Either way, either or, be it A or B, its a problem, yes?

Someone in another threat told me to limit ads per IP or per visitor? Any thoughts guy?

Good luck with your Adsense Hustle.

[ukcarl]

Awesome post man I have just over 30 thin adsense sites and I have to say I am also leaning towards building more built out sites that add more value.

Very cool though man $40/day is pretty respectable, just keep going soon it will be $100+/day

[Russel Mogul]

Originally Posted by JuicerFan

Hey Adsense Experts.

Anyone know how to deal with people giving you multiple clicks.

Maybe they are trying to be nice. Maybe they are trying to mess with your Adsense Hustle. Either way, either or, be it A or B, its a problem, yes?

Someone in another threat told me to limit ads per IP or per visitor? Any thoughts guy?

Good luck with your Adsense Hustle.

Report any suspicious behavior to Adsense directly. No use getting your account banned on the first few months. you know

[Chasing Pace]

Originally Posted by ukcarl

Awesome post man I have just over 30 thin adsense sites and I have to say I am also leaning towards building more built out sites that add more value.

Very cool though man $40/day is pretty respectable, just keep going soon it will be $100+/day

Ya, I have no empirical evidence that suggests micro niche sites are going away, in fact Spencer at Niche Pursuits is a great example of them still thriving.

Though I can't help but think it's not a business model that can last and I'd like to be around for a long time in IM

[ukcarl]

Originally Posted by Chasing Pace

Ya, I have no empirical evidence that suggests micro niche sites are going away, in fact Spencer at Niche Pursuits is a great example of them still thriving.

Though I can't help but think it's not a business model that can last and I'd like to be around for a long time in IM

Too true, I wouldnt base my hole business on it, but I think its a nice base to get money coming in fast.

Then you can look into larger projects that will take longer to see results, when you can afford to wait for results thats my theory anyway.

I dont mind short lived income streams as long as there isn't too much work, also micro sites have a great exit stratergy, your looking at like 10-15X monthly revenue on somewhere like Flippa.com pretty sweet and excelent potential ROI

[chrislangley]

Nice tips, the key ofcourse is enjoying building backlinks and content for the niches you enjoy