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Old 12-11-2011, 07:35 PM   #1
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Default Ranking high in google for a domain with a letter at the end

Hi. I am curious about something.

If I find a keyword in google keyword tool that gets 12000 exact global searches per month, for example lets just say dog training, and then I go to google and i type it within quotes to find my competition and I get "dog training" 25,000 which means this is my competing pages and then I go to market samurai and and analyze my competition for that keyword and is very easy to beat them on page seo and off page seo

but then i go to godaddy or name cheap and i tried to buy the domain and is taken, everything, .com .net. org. info, etc... all is taken

and now lets say i buy dogtrainingx, and dogtrainingx.com is available,

my question is, can i still rank for the keyword dog training even though I put an x at the end of the url or would that mess up my on page and off page seo campaign for trying to rank for this keyword

Please answer only if you have experience is this matter.


The above is just an example, obviously dog training is really hard to rank for, lol


Ok thank you
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:23 PM   #2
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my question is, can i still rank for the keyword dog training even though I put an x at the end of the url or would that mess up my on page and off page seo campaign for trying to rank for this keyword
Yes, you can rank a domain with a letter at the end of it - or some other word or number or combination of the two. I have done it and I regularly see examples of the same.

However, you can also rank a non-exact match domain for your target keyword. It might take a bit of extra work but you can either do dogtrainingx.com or you can do swishydog.com (yes, I made that up) and rank that for dog training if your on-page SEO, off-page SEO and content were all about your keyword.

For affiliate marketing, it's normal to look for exact match domains but there are many successful businesses that build their websites with a brandable name and still rank for all kinds of valuable keywords.

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Default Re: Ranking high in google for a domain with a letter at the end

The EMD (exact match domain) factor is a very small part of SEO.
Backlink diversity and incoming anchor text plus actual site contents
are the other things to consider whether you'll rank or not.

I handled over 1,000 EMDs in my previous job,
and we had all of the paid tools you can imagine (Scrapebox,
nuclear link blaster, megalink blaster, traffic geyser, magic article
submitter, etc.)

The result? Unpredictable, even on low competition, geographically
targeted keywords.

So you can only estimate to make it to the top, but there's a difference
when you actually do it. Trust me.

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Ok kool thank you so much
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Yes but the weight not that high the the dog training keyword while it put more weight with the x behind.
If me i will request go with other domain extension. Why not you purchase domain with your country domain extension .
It help you stand out among your competitor in the local search . If you go with dogtrainingx.com. Then make sure you need do lot of hardwork on building link with dogtrainig without the x.

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It does work. I don't remember his name but there used to a super affiliate whose domains always ended with X
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Default Re: Ranking high in google for a domain with a letter at the end

I have also had success with adding a word at the end.

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etc. I would rather have a .com with an x or word at the end than a different extension.

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Default Re: Ranking high in google for a domain with a letter at the end

Most of the time when I can't find an exact match domain name I'll add a word to the end of my keyword i.e. mykeywordsite.com

I rank for my keyword just fine doing it this way. I may take a bit longer to rank than if I had the emd, but I really haven't noticed.

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Default Re: Ranking high in google for a domain with a letter at the end

Google is constantly optimizing it's algorithm to serve its users with the most relevant search results for any given keyword. Yes you could definitely pick the domain name and add an 'x, 101, site, blog etc' and get good rankings.. but if you can't get the exact match domains .com .net .org (which according to my testing still does make it a lot easier to rank) it makes more sense to choose at least a semantic relevant keyword. That is if your priority is SEO, and not building a brand or product.

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what about if I sed a hyphen instead

for example , if i wanted to rank for the keyword "dog training" using this domain dogtrainingx.com versus dog-training.com which one of those would give me a better and faster rank results?

Would the hyphen interfere for me trying to rank for the exact keyword dog training?

Just an example, no one ever talks about this little technical things that might make a big difference.

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Default Re: Ranking high in google for a domain with a letter at the end

I forgot the keyword but I remember it was a hot niche and the first page of google results looking something like this:

keywordhq.com
keywordv.com
keywordx.com
keyword101.com
keyword1.com

I have only one site where I added a letter but I would never do it again. If a site gets good traffic and shows potential of becoming a larger authority site, it's not professional having a letter as a suffix. I normally add hq or 101.


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what about if I sed a hyphen instead

for example , if i wanted to rank for the keyword "dog training" using this domain dogtrainingx.com versus dog-training.com which one of those would give me a better and faster rank results?

Would the hyphen interfere for me trying to rank for the exact keyword dog training?

Just an example, no one ever talks about this little technical things that might make a big difference.

Thank you
You're thinking too much into it. EMD doesn't make a significant different. Google "dating sites". How many have the words dating sites in it? None.
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The EMD (exact match domain) factor is a very small part of SEO.
I read what you wrote, but in my experience keyword in domain/URL is a very, very strong factor...

KW in URL, better even EMD....good title...and you are always halfway there...i have seen total garbage sites ranking like that for tough KWs

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