Does anyone here buy Backlink packets?

[theultimate1]

Hello Warriors,

I see a lot of people in the IM community offering backlink packets. I just saw something like "10,000 Blog Comment Backlinks for $15" (a little cheaper than that, actually). Also, the service promised that 100% of the backlinks would be active and working.

So, my question(s) are:
1. Does anyone here buy these kinds of services?

2. What can be expected from such services - Does it help you with your search engine rankings significantly?

3. Do you use these services to build links directly to your money site? Or do you use them to rank your linkwheel properties? [Am I giving out ideas here? ]

4. Are you aware how these services actually go about delivering 10,000 Blog Comment Backlinks in a period of less than 4-7 days? Do they use ScrapeBox with spintax kind of stuff? Xrumer? Something else?

5. How often do you buy such packages for linking to the same URL?

Please advise with your thoughts, experiences and opinions. Thanks in advance


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P.S.: Mods, my apologies for posting this in the wrong section. Please move it to the SEO Discussion section. Inconvenience regretted.

[braincandy7]

You need to be careful when getting link packages. Don't get me wrong some are great but always remember that google isn't stupid. They want people to offer good content and expect real honest sites to build backlinks naturally themselves.

If your site suddenly has 10,000 blog comments appearing in the space of a day or two it is as clear as day to google that you did not create them yourself.

If you are seen to be adding links too quickly you can be penalized or even "sandboxed" which will destroy all your work so far.

[marksmith21]

I am very very careful with buying link packages because a lot of times they just spam comments on blogs to get links which can actually harm your site. I usually do my own blog commenting to get links.

Now if you are interested in buying backlinks then there are some legit services. I personally buy links by paying for the distribution of articles with my links in them and getting backlinks through social media.

[Tadresources]

I just buy paul and angelas packets and I used to be a subscriber to terrys. I then get them done very cheap. I can get about 120 of pauls completed for about $6 so its worth my while.

But dont expect to just do a bit of backlinking through profiles or blog comments and expect to be first page of Google - it is not like that.

But it is a good background type of seo that you can run along with publishing articles, social media, press releases etc.

[celente]

A good press release that is well written, can get you get not only great results but many good backlinks and good rankings.

I outsource this to a good writer who knows how to SEO it, and write top quality. That is key.

[kennykjtan]

Buying backlinks is a waste of time. They simply spam all the blogs and do profile linking. It doesn't help at all. I do my own backlinking and I managed to get both my website to top spots.

I do it manually and I'm still cannot understand why 400 back links done manually is better than 5000 back links than I bought. Hmmm.....

[braincandy7]

Buying Blog Comment backlinks is a waste of time. There are decent services out there which are not blog comments.

Originally Posted by kennykjtan

Buying backlinks is a waste of time. They simply spam all the blogs and do profile linking. It doesn't help at all. I do my own backlinking and I managed to get both my website to top spots.

I do it manually and I'm still cannot understand why 400 back links done manually is better than 5000 back links than I bought. Hmmm.....

[theultimate1]

Originally Posted by braincandy7

Buying Blog Comment backlinks is a waste of time. There are decent services out there which are not blog comments.

Are you hinting at Profile Backlinks, Article Directory Submissions, Social Bookmarking Services? Or something else?

[braincandy7]

I have a service I offer and use myself which builds 500 keyword anchored permanent backlinks from relevant sites. It does not do this in one bulk but at an average rate of 0-8 per day until the quota is met. Helps it look more natural.

The links are reciprocal but setup in the system so that they only come back to you as one way links. Any dead links are replaced so the total figure will always be 500 or more.

[Nscnikhil]

I buy backlinks..but not for $15....i get them for $5 and one more thing,i buy 20'000 for $5...

[Nico Koehler]

Hello,

There are a lot of good packages around here. Just be careful when you are buying them. Just look what the other users are saying.

[PromoDirect]

Buy backlinks from blogroll and through guest post.. blog comments are of no use. Also getting too many backlinks in short time and from irrelevant websites can be harmful for your website in the search engine performance.

[alistair]

I use to make my own forum packets using Sick Submitter and blog lists using Scrapebox but I don't bother now. It's not to say i don't use packets, if i need to blast something with a load of links I'll just go to fiverr and get it done there. Just saves me the time and effort.

[Law guy]

Originally Posted by theultimate1

Hello Warriors,

I see a lot of people in the IM community offering backlink packets. I just saw something like "10,000 Blog Comment Backlinks for $15" (a little cheaper than that, actually). Also, the service promised that 100% of the backlinks would be active and working.

So, my question(s) are:
1. Does anyone here buy these kinds of services?

2. What can be expected from such services - Does it help you with your search engine rankings significantly?

3. Do you use these services to build links directly to your money site? Or do you use them to rank your linkwheel properties? [Am I giving out ideas here? ]

4. Are you aware how these services actually go about delivering 10,000 Blog Comment Backlinks in a period of less than 4-7 days? Do they use ScrapeBox with spintax kind of stuff? Xrumer? Something else?

5. How often do you buy such packages for linking to the same URL?

Please advise with your thoughts, experiences and opinions. Thanks in advance


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P.S.: Mods, my apologies for posting this in the wrong section. Please move it to the SEO Discussion section. Inconvenience regretted.

1. You will find a lot of people buy these services. The key here is being able to distinguish between crap, for lack of a better word, and quality services. As the saying goes - "it takes money to make money". Or of course you could learn how to do it yourself

2. Good services help with your rankings, bad services either don't or even hurt your rankings. Simple as that.

3. Depends on which links. I do not buy any services as I own all the tools and can do everything myself. Rule of thumb is to send quality backlinks at your money site and spammy low quality backlinks at your tier 1 links. Generally contextual, social (social bookmarks) backlinks and high PR blog comments are good enough to be sent directly at your money site. Typical blog comments on the other hand and forum profiles should never be sent directly at your money site - aim them at your tier 1 links for additional link juice.

4. They use automated software like - scrapebox, xrumer, senuke x, and many other tools - custom or otherwise.

5. As often as you'd like and/or can afford. The more diverse your backlinks profile, the better. Diversity is the name of the game here.


EDIT: I forgot to mention another cliche, but one that still rings true, that is - "you get what you pay for".

[xkuba]

I buy some packages but not those "10.000 blog comments" for 5 USD. Those packages are useless, Google will never index them and if so then he will never count them. BTW what can anybody expect to get for 5 USD? Crap...

Try to buy packages like "20 blog comments on high PR" for 15 USD or "20 guest posts" for 20 USD.

[theultimate1]

Originally Posted by Law guy

1. You will find a lot of people buy these services. The key here is being able to distinguish between crap, for lack of a better word, and quality services. As the saying goes - "it takes money to make money". Or of course you could learn how to do it yourself

2. Good services help with your rankings, bad services either don't or even hurt your rankings. Simple as that.

3. Depends on which links. I do not buy any services as I own all the tools and can do everything myself. Rule of thumb is to send quality backlinks at your money site and spammy low quality backlinks at your tier 1 links. Generally contextual, social (social bookmarks) backlinks and high PR blog comments are good enough to be sent directly at your money site. Typical blog comments on the other hand and forum profiles should never be sent directly at your money site - aim them at your tier 1 links for additional link juice.

4. They use automated software like - scrapebox, xrumer, senuke x, and many other tools - custom or otherwise.

5. As often as you'd like and/or can afford. The more diverse your backlinks profile, the better. Diversity is the name of the game here.


EDIT: I forgot to mention another cliche, but one that still rings true, that is - "you get what you pay for".

WOW... That was just too cool, 'Law guy'. Thank You, Sire

Just probing a bit more here: You said in #3 that you have the tools to do it yourself. Do you have the same tools as you mentioned in #4? Or do you have other tools? I'd be interested in doing it myself too. I've heard about these tools, but I'm not sure I'll be able to do it really well. Are there any (video) tutorials you're aware of or that you learned from when you got started?

Oh, and yes, whether you get off on coffee or beer, whatever it is, or even both... I owe You one

Don't go by the literal meaning of 'get off' though :P

[Andyhenry]

Link Packets are one of the big IM distractions. They're one of the least effective link building strategies.

That's not to say that if you spend the time to do them they'll have no effect, just that they're a low value activity that you need to do a lot of on a consistent basis for them to make much difference.

There are 2 generally applied approaches as others have mentioned. There's the blast your URL to the biggest list of scraped sites you can find approach. This is likely to cause you problems. The other is the more time intensive manual setup of accounts on sites that have been more researched.

The general focus tends to be around the Page Rank of the domain and or page, and whether the links are do follow or not.

These are both valid considerations, but should not be the be-all and end-all of how you get your links.

You can get much more effective links much quicker just using other common strategies, like using press releases, video sharing, social bookmarking, twitter, facebook etc....

The main people who use backlink packets are beginners who have no proper linking strategy and think that backlink packets are going to save them having to create their own strategy.

Aswell as being less effective as other methods, if you're buying these type of links you're probably part of a group of people all also using them and therefore including yourself in the footprint of abuse that the SE's are looking for when trying to make sure people are not gaming the system.

If you buy blasts (as mentioned by some people) then you're asking for trouble as they're literally just plugging your url and keyword into a tool that has already blasted the exact same places with other people's links.

All of these strategies mean you're just another person scrounging an unrelated link from someones site that you have no real reason to get one from.

So, while I can understand why people buy them - it's usually because they don't have a better strategy and I think THAT is the main problem.

Andy

[cashcow]

I think if you are going to use these packets that you should point the links at a web2.0 property that then links to your money site. Build up the "clout" of the web2.0 property without risking the wrath of google for spammy links pointing to your money site.

I wouldn't spend a lot of time or money doing this though as they are very low level links.

Just IMHO

Lee

[Law guy]

Originally Posted by theultimate1

WOW... That was just too cool, 'Law guy'. Thank You, Sire

Just probing a bit more here: You said in #3 that you have the tools to do it yourself. Do you have the same tools as you mentioned in #4? Or do you have other tools? I'd be interested in doing it myself too. I've heard about these tools, but I'm not sure I'll be able to do it really well. Are there any (video) tutorials you're aware of or that you learned from when you got started?

Oh, and yes, whether you get off on coffee or beer, whatever it is, or even both... I owe You one

Don't go by the literal meaning of 'get off' though :P

Yes, I own the tools I mentioned, as well as many others, along with multiple VPS' where I run them from. It takes time to learn how to use them and even more time to figure out how to use them optimally. You can find a lot of information online if you poke around a bit.

And I like both coffee and beer, depending on the time of day

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Link Packets are one of the big IM distractions. They're one of the least effective link building strategies.

That's not to say that if you spend the time to do them they'll have no effect, just that they're a low value activity that you need to do a lot of on a consistent basis for them to make much difference.

There are 2 generally applied approaches as others have mentioned. There's the blast your URL to the biggest list of scraped sites you can find approach. This is likely to cause you problems. The other is the more time intensive manual setup of accounts on sites that have been more researched.

The general focus tends to be around the Page Rank of the domain and or page, and whether the links are do follow or not.

These are both valid considerations, but should not be the be-all and end-all of how you get your links.

You can get much more effective links much quicker just using other common strategies, like using press releases, video sharing, social bookmarking, twitter, facebook etc....

The main people who use backlink packets are beginners who have no proper linking strategy and think that backlink packets are going to save them having to create their own strategy.

Aswell as being less effective as other methods, if you're buying these type of links you're probably part of a group of people all also using them and therefore including yourself in the footprint of abuse that the SE's are looking for when trying to make sure people are not gaming the system.

If you buy blasts (as mentioned by some people) then you're asking for trouble as they're literally just plugging your url and keyword into a tool that has already blasted the exact same places with other people's links.

All of these strategies mean you're just another person scrounging an unrelated link from someones site that you have no real reason to get one from.

So, while I can understand why people buy them - it's usually because they don't have a better strategy and I think THAT is the main problem.

Andy

This is wrong on so many levels and self-contradicting that I don't even know where to begin nor have the time to point out all the fallacies.

You slam "link packets" and then go on to advocate manual link building which is essentially identical, albeit slower, to buying link packets. A link is a link is a link. Google doesn't look at links and go "Oh this link looks like it was done manually, 10 points!". The key is avoiding leaving footprints with your automated linkbuilding, or picking link packet providers that avoid leaving footprints.

You can spend an hour registering accounts and submitting 10 social bookmarks to receive minimal effect, while in the same timeframe I will have made 300 social bookmarks all with the help of a few mouseclicks and will have 30 times the effect from my "efforts" than you will have with your manual submissions

Now if you'll excuse me I have another website I need to push to the top of page 1 of Google, all in the span of a day

[Andyhenry]

Originally Posted by Law guy

Yes, I own the tools I mentioned, as well as many others, along with multiple VPS' where I run them from. It takes time to learn how to use them and even more time to figure out how to use them optimally. You can find a lot of information online if you poke around a bit.

And I like both coffee and beer, depending on the time of day



This is wrong on so many levels and self-contradicting that I don't even know where to begin nor have the time to point out all the fallacies.

You slam "link packets" and then go on to advocate manual link building which is essentially identical, albeit slower, to buying link packets. A link is a link is a link. Google doesn't look at links and go "Oh this link looks like it was done manually, 10 points!". The key is avoiding leaving footprints with your automated linkbuilding, or picking link packet providers that avoid leaving footprints.

You can spend an hour registering accounts and submitting 10 social bookmarks to receive minimal effect, while in the same timeframe I will have made 300 social bookmarks all with the help of a few mouseclicks and will have 30 times the effect from my "efforts" than you will have with your manual submissions

Now if you'll excuse me I have another website I need to push to the top of page 1 of Google, all in the span of a day

Then I think you misunderstood me. I also have those tools and servers that host them and get great rankings quickly, so don't be so naive as to think that I'm ignorant of their uses.

If you read my post you'll see that I started it by saying that getting links like that can provide a boost, and I certainly never said that I spend any of my time manually doing any of this stuff.

Also I didn't "slam" link packets. I think some of them are great for certain people who don't have any solid linking strategy and are in uncompetitive niches and need 'something' to get them going.

This is not about a black and white situation of automation versus manual and my posts are not all about what my personal opinion is. I have no interest in trying to convert anyone to my way of thinking.

However, I do know that many people who read these threads are just starting out and do not have a lot of experience or knowledge in how to promote/market their website and are looking for information on all angles of these subjects.

Just because I know that it's possible to run a bunch of tools and spam the crap out of any website that fits a certain footprint pattern, and spam their stats logs, their blogs, their comments, etc. and press a button and get accounts on all of the various platforms created automatically to continue to merry-go-round of spam targets - that doesn't mean I would advise anyone to do it.

Some people are happy to sell guns and drugs to kids to make money - that doesn't mean I would suggest it as a way for other people.

Sometimes you need to take your head out of your own perspective and try to help people make their own choices rather than just repeat your own perspective at them.

[Richard Van]

Originally Posted by Law guy

Now if you'll excuse me I have another website I need to push to the top of page 1 of Google, all in the span of a day

I understand now, why in yesterdays arguement that you managed to get in, why you're so keen on Google being regulated.

I'm also surprised yesterday you were so anti them when today you're openly admitting you game them to make your money.

Interesting stance.

Originally Posted by graphic1970a

If you want i can offer you SEO service. Just PM me or reply to this message

Thanks
George

Respectfully, though I may find it impossible to ever see eye to eye with Law Man, I doubt whether he and certainly not Andy, will be PMing you.

[Soren]

1) I'm sure there is. But I doubt you'll find people with years of experience in the seo field that will ever buy these packets. Because they know what they are, they know the money/time is better spent else where, and most (not all!!) SEO service providers, really are just spammers using BlueFart (they call it greyhat) software, trying to constantly find loopholes and trick google. Some even tricks their customers (who knows nothing about keyword research), picks out some easy keywords to rank 1 for but with a low/non-existing oci and close to no searches.

Also those packets are often used by hundreds of other spam service providers, so your links, if indexed (5-10% max) will probably be deindexed or deleted in a couple of weeks.

A better approach!->

Rule no. 1 in SEO is not quantity, but quality.. and the marketing approach is my favourite: Offer high value for free, build a brand, build your lists where you treat you subscribers and THINK -> before <- posting articles or sending emails out. Have the right mindset. Figure out what they need, figure out the solution and let 'word of mouth' and them sharing your content be your primary role in SEO.

2) It CAN help getting you ranks for LOW competition keywords, like fx (new amazon products) or product numbers in general. Also works for blogposts built around long tail keywords, but writing a couple of articles, doing some videos (could even be powerpoint where you read your articles out aloud), a simple lens/hub while connecting a ping.fm account with your blog/website's rss feed - this takes little time to do, and is much much better in my experience.

3) Because few of the links are indexed, and most of the indexed links gets deleted within .. say a year .. it is not a great idea to try and make advanced linkwheels, linking across the tier hieraki (and I'm not even going to go into a debate about linkwheel indexing, no/do follow, indexing/crawling and all that - I just don't think it helps if done on auto-pilot!). A broken link from 1 approved, indexed article to a deleted article, could mean that your approved article gets deleted.. Makes sense right?

4) I know the black/grey-hat techniques, because it in my newbie days I used some of the (least unethical) backlinking tools, and today I just think it's a shame those people waste their time trying to delay being beat by Google, over and over again - also it's good to know your 'competition' (lol) right?

Scrapebox, xrumer.. well it you're 'lucky' they'll at least do a minor effort to scrape and spin it a little using those softwares. If you're very lucky, perhaps they've made their own directories for submitting articles, press releases, forum profiles (which is ****), etc, and if you're incredible lucky they even update those directories, and schedule your backlinking campaign so it looks somewhat natural to google.

Even so, you could do a better job (in 99% of the cases) doing a little manual work.. and it shouldn't be a problem, if you believe in and care for what you're trying to promote, right?

5) Never of course!

Hope my thoughts, experiences and opinions is of any use.

[BlogTyrant]

Forget it.

If you are thinking about it being a good idea you can bet Google has already discounted it. Those guys are smart.

The other thing is that too many links too quickly does more harm than good - especially if they are not linked up with social media love.

Those packages are a good way to kill a site. I know of several friends who have murdered otherwise good blogs.

[Daniel Wilson]

I'd pick the ones with most testimonials. Getting to trust someone to backlink is really tough as you're not sure what the results will be.

For $15 you'll get a bunch of low quality links that will be created with an automated software. You're better of by backlinking yourself.

[Law guy]

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Then I think you misunderstood me. I also have those tools and servers that host them and get great rankings quickly, so don't be so naive as to think that I'm ignorant of their uses.

If you read my post you'll see that I started it by saying that getting links like that can provide a boost, and I certainly never said that I spend any of my time manually doing any of this stuff.

Also I didn't "slam" link packets. I think some of them are great for certain people who don't have any solid linking strategy and are in uncompetitive niches and need 'something' to get them going.

This is not about a black and white situation of automation versus manual and my posts are not all about what my personal opinion is. I have no interest in trying to convert anyone to my way of thinking.

However, I do know that many people who read these threads are just starting out and do not have a lot of experience or knowledge in how to promote/market their website and are looking for information on all angles of these subjects.

Just because I know that it's possible to run a bunch of tools and spam the crap out of any website that fits a certain footprint pattern, and spam their stats logs, their blogs, their comments, etc. and press a button and get accounts on all of the various platforms created automatically to continue to merry-go-round of spam targets - that doesn't mean I would advise anyone to do it.

Some people are happy to sell guns and drugs to kids to make money - that doesn't mean I would suggest it as a way for other people.

Sometimes you need to take your head out of your own perspective and try to help people make their own choices rather than just repeat your own perspective at them.

Did you seriously just compare automated linkbuilding to selling guns and drugs to kids? Oh my...

Originally Posted by Richard Van

I understand now, why in yesterdays arguement that you managed to get in, why you're so keen on Google being regulated.

I'm also surprised yesterday you were so anti them when today you're openly admitting you game them to make your money.

Interesting stance.



Respectfully, though I may find it impossible to ever see eye to eye with Law Man, I doubt whether he and certainly not Andy, will be PMing you.

I think you will agree that people always have hidden agendas, although I hardly make it a secret that I dabble in SEO techniques that may not be considered completely "whitehat". But then, what is truly whitehat nowadays? That is a rhetorical question by the way, I have no intention of engaging in yet another lengthy discussion with you about simple semantics.

I am flattered though that I have left a big enough of an impression on you for you to follow me into this thread and point out the obvious.

Yours truly,


Law Man

[Richard Van]

Originally Posted by Law guy

That is a rhetorical question by the way, I have no intention of engaging in yet another lengthy discussion with you about simple semantics.

Simple semantics? You were getting so stressed over it, I politely bowed out of the conversation.

Besides, I have no intention of having a discussion with you of any sorts. You make it up as you go along.

I am flattered though that I have left a big enough of an impression on you for you to follow me into this thread and point out the obvious.

The only impression you've left on me, is of a person that hides behind the name "Law Man", which to me is odd anyway and of someone that is here for no reason but to pick arguements and go around being rude to people.

So you don't give yourself an overly heightened sense of opinion, I came in here to read Andy's posts. Andy has helped many people on this forum and is one of the most experienced marketers I know, yet you treat him with contempt.

Believe me, I'm certainly not the only one to have noticed that.

Have a pleasant evening.

[1jus3tin1]

If I can throw in my 2 cents: Its very, very hit or miss. Also there is a right and wrong way to do it. NEVER do mass blog comments to your site. The only links that you want pointing at your site are quality links from trusted sites with varied anchor text. And, although it is difficult you should have a second tier of quality links pointing to the first tier. Then, if you want to do some backlink packets to ONLY those links go ahead. Just make sure that the link packets are not coming from the same URLs. 10,000 backlinks from 10,000 different urls is what you want...again this is not at all easy to find..maybe impossible, but its what you should shoot for. And finally on top of that expect those links to take a fairly long time to help your site in the rankings. It takes google awhile to index those types of links, if they do at all.

[DustinG]

It not worth risking being banned from Google, IMO.

[1jus3tin1]

Google doesnt ban sites so much as stop counting the links. Again just never point these to your money sites just as cashcow mentioned and it wont kill you if you dont overdue it. But yes I think that there are better ways to spend your hard earned money.

[thetravelbug]

You are far better spending half an hour of your own time finding some related blogs with interesting posts and leaving proper comments on and a link back to your site. You might only do 5 to 10 in 30 minutes but these will be of far higher quality and more likely to get you organic traffic from a related website than spending a few dollars on pointless comments, usually made by someone with little grasp of English. I get these type of crap spam comments on my blogs all the time and just delete them (or if I have time contact the website owner that the spammer is trying to promote and tell them to get a better SEO person).

[John Romaine]

Originally Posted by Andyhenry

Link Packets are one of the big IM distractions. They're one of the least effective link building strategies.

AB-SO-LUTE-LY

Anyone trying to argue this point either

a) Has no idea of SEO
b) Is selling this crap

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[Andyhenry]

Originally Posted by 1jus3tin1

Google doesnt ban sites so much as stop counting the links.

Actually that's not strictly true, as anyone who's abused these types of links will know when their site suddenly plunged in rankings.

The SEs are not stupid and they are constantly looking at non-natural behaviour. If you take out any kind of activity that is part of a common footprint (i.e you get your non-relevant links just for SEO purposes from the same places as lots of other people) then you'll eventually get stung.

If you get links in large numbers from similar places at random (spikey) intervals then you're asking to get caught by a filter.

This stuff is the same as ever - if you try to game the system then you need to be careful how to do it.

If you're just manually out commenting on relevant blogs - no problem. If you're pressing a button to get lots of links then be sure you understand what you're doing.

It's not hard to get things right, but if your focus is on cutting corners or trying to get big results without really understanding the impact then you're likely to come unstuck.

At the end of the day - the right answer is different for different people.

If you're just starting out and have no money and want to get a little boost to your new site then it's much easier to use a social bookmarking plugin and get all of your pages indexed and bookmarked. yes you need to get accounts set up but that's free and when you're not looking to spend money it's worth doing (you only need to do it once).

If you have some budget then a few tools or outsourcing to a reputable provider makes sense.

Or you can do what I do - which is all 3. I do some manual stuff, I have all the popular tools and I outsource all the time too.

Just make sure you learn a little about things before jumping to pay other people because people will happily charge you for things that will make no difference to you.

Andy

[amarketing]

Like they saying goes: "You get what you pay for." I've often times thought about using something like this for bulding a pile of niche sites that have low competition keywords. However, I really question whether something like this would help. Like others have said, getting that many bakclinks will probably do more hurt to your SEO efforts yourself.

[SEOHelix]

I have not bought these links, but I do know a lot of people who buy links. Make sure you know the person providing the service more in depth.

[Hossain]

spend 50 bucks and purchase quality backlinks instead of throwing your hard earned money into river.

[TolyZ]

I offer backlink services. Have been actually for the past 2 years. I offer all kinds of links, from .edu to article submission to PR5+ blogrolls. PM me or contact me through my web site - Buy backlinks, Quality link building services, Buy Backlinks Cheap

[Juvv2096]

if someone offers you 10 thousand backlinks for 15 dollars, do you honestly expect it to be of any value? If you do then your sadly mistaken. If you feel the urge to use it, back link a decent quality link you have made for your site. For example a free wordpress site, with 5 articles on it. Blast that with 10 thousand links, not your money site.

If you want a decent quality service, go for quality, not quantity. id rather 5 decent backlinks instead of 10 thousand garbage scrapebox ones.

Join a High PR network, or use a service like mine so you can get in the network without actually doing anything. Worth a try.

[IwebSeo]

Within 2-3 days getting 10,000 of backlinks is very harmful for your website because google isn't stupid with backlinks crawling. so avoid that type of services. if they can do this 10,000 comment services more then 20-40 days so its ok. its my opinion.

[nacke81]

Are you referring to "packets" like Angela's and Pauls? If so, I can tell you that these are low quality links, but they will help with your seo.

The 10,000 links for $15 thing is surely being done with xRumer or Scrapebox.

I've tested both of these pieces of software for my money sites and for backlinking my backlinks.

For money sites, I don't recommend it. I've really tried to push the limits of using automated tools for SEO to discover the negative consequences in Google, and until a few months ago, I never saw any negative impact. But then I got my hands on a big 19,000 autoapprove list and hammered one of my aged sites that already has lots of backlinks, and my site went from page 1 #7 to #136 in about a week.

It took about two months to get my ranking back, but I can tell you from experience that it's just not worth hammering your money site with spam links. I'd heard others arguing both sides of this argument, and I just had to find our for myself.

As for using it to backlink your backlinks ... I still do it.

And I also buy backlinking services from many different people here on the Warrior Forum.

There's no real need to buy packets like Paul's and Angela's if you have scrapebox. It doesn't take long to figure out how to use scrapebox to find good footprints and discover your own forums for building profile links.

I used to have subscriptions to both of these services, but eventually canceled when I learned to use Scrapebox. Oh yeah ... and I also use Auto Backlink Bomb to build the profile links, it's slow but it works. I'm not doing this a ton these days because a lot of my rankings can be achieved with SeNukeX (which includes forum profile linking), but for keywords that are really competitive, I have to use lots of different tools other than just SeNukeX ... including ScrapeBox, AutoBacklink Bomb, Bookmarking Demon, Sliq Submitter, and buying backlink services here on the Warrior Forum, including blog comments and homepage backlinks.

Seems like the stuff that works keeps changing and the only way to figure it out is by constantly trying different strategies and keeping track of everything you do on your multiple web properties.

Works for me anyway...

[SeoSarah]

I have to disagree with those who said blog comment backlinks are useless. How comes some of my sites are ranking quite well through blog comment links? Of course I'm not talking about high competitve keywords, I guess that's obvious. But it's still a quite decent result in my opinion. One of those sites earns me about $80 per month. You might say that's not a fortune and that's true, but keep in mind that all the backlinks of that site were created by tools.
Think about how much time I would have spent to build all those links manually. Sure I could have outsourced it, but that would have cost me a lot more money. You hardly will find someone who's going to manually build 10.000 backlinks for you for just $15

I mainly use those links to push my link wheels and link pyramids. No problem at all if any of them gets a penality. If that would happen, I would just build some more. But until now it never happend to me.
I also use them to build backlinks for my backlinks. I don't know about you, but $15 to index my backlinks and make them stronger sounds like a damn good deal to me. It saves me a lot of time. Time that I can use to earn way more then $15.

It always depends on how you use these kind of links. Tools like Scrapebox, SenukeX and such are made to save you time and they do that very well.