My competitor has 12,000 backlinks

[outwest]

Showing on Market Samurai

When I go to Ahrefs it shows like 800

Now
The number of backlinks with anchor text targeting my target kw? is only about 100 or so

The other backlinks target either completely unrelated anchor text
or
They target similar words, or www.hissite.com

Is it a valid assumption that
the only backlinks that are my competition are the ones targeting my kw in the anchor text?

or are all his backlinks just as important even though their anchor text is either totally unrelated or not even remotely similar

A lot of his backlinks do target anchor text for LSI words though. I am not sure how important those are to
google as far as backlink anchor text. I know LSI words are important in articles though

[outwest]

For all I have been told, You are basically ranked based on backlinks with anchor text for your kw

If a guy has 500 backlinks
100 are anchor text 1967 Mustang
100 New Cars
100 Classic 70s cars
100 Muscle Cars of the 1970s
100 1956 Corvettes

Sure thats 500 backlinks
and he will probably show up on all of these terms

However as far as number of backlinks for each term?
I dont think google would say ok he has 500 backlinks on EACH term

they would split them

so for example
if someone came in with 200 backlinks with stronger PR for any one of these terms
he should be able to beat the guy ON THAT KW TERM

Unless my logic is flawed

For example on a new niche I am starting
Wikipedia is ranked number one, on many of the terms

However
On a few of the terms I know for a fact that
the terms are VERY LOW on the anchor text for wikipedia, linking in

so just because wikipedia has 10,000 backlinks
if they are rated number one for 1959 Mustang...................and the wikipedia page coming up is wikipedia.com/blahblah/muscle-cars-1960s.html

and thats the title of the page and there are only TEN incoming links with 1969 Mustang as the anchor text
Then I think it might be true that you could outrank that Wikipedia page with a nice portfolio of anchor links with 1969 Mustang as Anchor text.... thats way higher in number than TEN.........Also the wikipedia.com/blahblah/muscle-cars-1960s.html wiki page is NOT SEO for the term 1969 mustang............AT ALL

Thats my theory that google is pulling up the pages on the Strength of the Backlinks with that anchor text..........................how relevant are the BACKLINKS WITH ANCHOR TEXT FOR THE RELEVANT KW TERM............for that page....................I think that is how google decides what page to pull up...................Otherwise how would they decide to pull up that page or not? There are only two big factors........Onpage SEO ................and Backlinks......................

[usaimarketing]

There is different phenomena of back links for your competitor, you really want get rank well against not primary keyword of your website on initial basis you need to rank against long tail less competition keywords of your website. So no need to extract the number of back links of your competitors just extract them and try to build back links of your own website on those links and forgot about number.

[outwest]

Originally Posted by usaimarketing

There is different phenomena of back links for your competitor, you really want get rank well against not primary keyword of your website on initial basis you need to rank against long tail less competition keywords of your website. So no need to extract the number of back links of your competitors just extract them and try to build back links of your own website on those links and forgot about number.

Oh believe me I AM RANKING on the longtails

its just that the main kw I am talking about here, (not a longtail) gets 30 to 50 times the searches that the short tails get so thats why I am trying to rank for that also

Yes I realize the longtail versions of this kw............and the LSI Words can also be ranked on but

My main question was

Lets say you have a guy with 100k backlinks

only 200 of those target your kw you are targeting

THAT HAS TO BE RELEVANT
you cant just look at it and say oh its 100k backlinks no way I can outrank that

Its like ONPAGE SEO
the whole point of that is to see if your competitor is ACTUALLY TARGETING your kw , actively,

if he is not, its ten to 100 times easier to outrank him

same with backlinks
IMO the anchor text of the backlinks...........(your competitors backlinks)
tells you IF HE IS TARGETING YOUR TERM OR NOT

if he is not
then who cares if he has 100k backlinks

my question is,
is that logical or true

[outwest]

Guess this thread didnt generate much excitement

[treezie]

Yes for the most part you are right from my experience, if you are targetting a keyword, you should mostly worry about the anchor text that you are trying to compete for...and also to a lesser extent, the anchor text that is related to the keywords you are trying to compete for. Also, from my experience, Market Samurai does overinflate the amount of backlinks a site has as it is using Majestic SEO. One more thing you have to ask yourself how many of those links are from diff domains?

BTW, if your competitor has 100 links with the anchor text you are chasing after, you might be in for a tough battle if you want to beat him out.

[outwest]

Originally Posted by treezie

Yes for the most part you are right from my experience, if you are targetting a keyword, you should mostly worry about the anchor text that you are trying to compete for...and also to a lesser extent, the anchor text that is related to the keywords you are trying to compete for. Also, from my experience, Market Samurai does overinflate the amount of backlinks a site has as it is using Majestic SEO. One more thing you have to ask yourself how many of those links are from diff domains?

BTW, if your competitor has 100 links with the anchor text you are chasing after, you might be in for a tough battle if you want to beat him out.

100 links? tough battle? LOL
not within a few weeks perhaps but within a year I would be more than happy to outrank him

Yes I wonder about Market Samurai Backlinks
I removed some forum signatures from my backlinks profile, months ago
they still show up on Market samurai for my resort

[treezie]

Originally Posted by outwest

100 links? tough battle? LOL
not within a few weeks perhaps but within a year I would be more than happy to outrank him

No, 100 links with the exact anchor text you are competing for, not 100 total links. Cuz if your competitor is anything like me---he will build more links as soon as he sees competitors creep up. Not saying it is impossible, just saying it is a bit tougher because someone already has a head start.

[DeskCoder]

I would worry about all their links, specifically:

1) Any link with anchor text with the keyword
2) Any link with anchor text with keywords that relate to your keyword
3) Any link on a page with content that relates to your keyword

[outwest]

Originally Posted by treezie

No, 100 links with the exact anchor text you are competing for, not 100 total links. Cuz if your competitor is anything like me---he will build more links as soon as he sees competitors creep up. Not saying it is impossible, just saying it is a bit tougher because someone already has a head start.

No I am sure he will build more backlinks but , its ok
I have about 20 kw terms to 30 kw terms for that new niche site
and I own the product, I dont get paid commission I get all the money

so
Thats not that big of a disaster If I cant get past this guy, its just a long term goal of mine
he is targeting too many terms to be that aware if I am creeping up on him on this particular term, I think. Also this is such a high dollar item, I think he is not hurting for money