What an IDIOT!!!! A Cautionary TALE!

[IMSince2003]

I could just scream! I built a client 40 niche sites over a period of a year or so. They all had nice rankings, making money, the birds were chirping, bees buzzing, and all of a sudden, nothing... nuclear winter nothing...

I looked at the site stats, all 40 de-indexed! WHOA! What happened?

I sent my client an email asking if he was doing anything I should know about. Guess what? He sent paid traffic to one of his own (not the ones we built) sites to "kick it up a bit".

Google's response? Goodbye everything, including all the sites that were built 100% white-hat all the way.

SHEESH!!! Some people just never learn.

[DynaPass]

I take it you are not talking about paid PPC traffic from Google? hah

[JayDoh]

What kind of paid traffic did he send? Were all the sites on the same shared hosting account?

Tough break man, sorry to hear this!

[IMSince2003]

You know those banners that advertise 10,000 clicks for $10? Yeah, one of those. Man, what was he thinking? Well, I retired his IP and removed all his ads. I told him that he can try to get the sites included back in the index, but hey, 40 sites will take a lot of convincing. Fortunately, we only build sites that can pass a manual review so that won't be an issue. Still, that was so stupid.

[outwest]

Were these Adsense sites? How did google know all the sites were owned by the same person and why did they de index all the sites?

[IMSince2003]

The only thing that tied the sites together was the Adsense code. Nothing else. And yes, all the sites, all at the same time.

[Scorched87]

Greedy. Thats why I'm teaching myself how to do make niche sites before I outsource it so I can understand what to do and to not do.

This is a good lesson though in that the best way to get good rankings is by good SEO and never ever by spamming anything to a main domain. Google probably thought he slipped up one time and decided he was doing this to all of his sites.

[OO]

Greed can do serious damage. This should be a lesson to all who are on the fence about semi-bluefart techniques. Big G-won't stand for it!

[WiFi]

Originally Posted by OO

Greed can do serious damage. This should be a lesson to all who are on the fence about semi-bluefart techniques. Big G-won't stand for it!

So true, don't understand why people still instist on using old shady techniques of the past. It's time we all play fair.

[troybh]

People that stupid that do not understand internet marketing are the kinds of people that should have their adsense accounts banned as well as sites deindexed. There is stupid but this is over the top stupid.

[jord2n]

Originally Posted by IMSince2003

The only thing that tied the sites together was the Adsense code. Nothing else. And yes, all the sites, all at the same time.

That does not sound correct. Are you sure all sites were not either listed in the same Adwords or Google Webmaster account?

[JSProjects]

Originally Posted by jord2n

That does not sound correct. Are you sure all sites were not either listed in the same Adwords or Google Webmaster account?

That's all it'd take, really. Just an Adsense account that's used across all of the sites.

[outwest]

Does Google say they will deindex sites with paid or crap traffic?
I can understand this being against Adsense TOS and the Adsense acct is banned

but to deindex all the sites?
what if they had not been running Adsense? I guess there would have been no way for google to know about the sites otherwise,
and probably the ONLY reason they looked at the sites to begin with is because they were running adsense

[IMSince2003]

Originally Posted by jord2n

That does not sound correct. Are you sure all sites were not either listed in the same Adwords or Google Webmaster account?

I am a bit cautious about having Google know everything, so Google Analytics was NOT on a single site.

[IMSince2003]

Originally Posted by outwest

and probably the ONLY reason they looked at the sites to begin with is because they were running adsense

That is exactly why I recommend creating a network of sites that include a mix of sites that don't have any Google Analytics or Adsense or paid traffic of any kind. Remember, all eggs in one basket means real trouble if the big bad wolf comes to town

[jord2n]

Originally Posted by IMSince2003

I am a bit cautious about having Google know everything, so Google Analytics was NOT on a single site.

What about the Google Webmasters account, was the client using this for all their sites? I have heard of many in this forum who has multiple sites de-indexed with all sites being included in the webmasters account. This is the first case where Adsense is the culprit for multi de-indexinh which is why I am curious.

What do you think?

[IMSince2003]

Originally Posted by jord2n

What about the Google Webmasters account, was the client using this for all their sites? I have heard of many in this forum who has multiple sites de-indexed with all sites being included in the webmasters account. This is the first case where Adsense is the culprit for multi de-indexinh which is why I am curious.

What do you think?

Nope, Adsense was the ONLY common element. These sites were on a different server, private reg., StatCounter stats., and no Google Analytics, no Google Webmaster Tools, No Adwords traffic to the sites, nada, zip.

[TBInternetMarketing]

Wow, that is a crazy story. I didn't think this kind of thing really happened to be honest.
What a pain. Not sure I agree with Google's logic here, since why penalize all sites, even the ones that are giving the user what they want.

Are they still indexed in Yahoo and MSN?

[outwest]

Again is there some rule that ANY site in the serps, regardless whether it runs ADSENSE cant get paid crap traffic?

[WakondaMarketing]

That's one hell of a crazy story you've got there. Geez! From "AHA" to "NADA".

[Juvv2096]

what were his SERPs like for these sites?