SeNukeX: There's A Right Way To Use It?

[EricBaglio]

I had SeNukeX for a couple months but didn't really notice all that many good results. My links weren't really getting indexed well and I wasn't seeing much action in the SERPS.

Lately I'll see someone ask which is better: SeNuke vs Magic Submitter vs Rankbuilder and a lot of times there will be answers like "SeNuke is awesome if you know how to use it right." or "SeNuke works great as long as your not a newbie and actually know how to use it correctly."

So what is the right way to use SeNuke to get the most out of it? I'd like to know and I'm sure others would like to know as well. What are some methods Warriors have implemented that yielded actual result?

Just curious...

[Mike Anthony]

Best way? uninstall it and get refund. Don't you know that people say "you have to know how to use it" about anything even if the things track record is that it just doesn't work? Its the universal cover story for anything that generally fails.

[Matt Red]

I mean, there are a lot of success stories with Senuke..... so i think that answer is a little outrageous.

But yes, to a degree you do have to know "how to use it". Essentially Senuke is just a really good way of automating things you would already do...

You still need to know how to build links in what way for it to be successful. However, there are TONS of guides on best use practices around the internet and even on this forum.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by EricBaglio

I had SeNukeX for a couple months but didn't really notice all that many good results. My links weren't really getting indexed well and I wasn't seeing much action in the SERPS.

Lately I'll see someone ask which is better: SeNuke vs Magic Submitter vs Rankbuilder and a lot of times there will be answers like "SeNuke is awesome if you know how to use it right." or "SeNuke works great as long as your not a newbie and actually know how to use it correctly."

So what is the right way to use SeNuke to get the most out of it? I'd like to know and I'm sure others would like to know as well. What are some methods Warriors have implemented that yielded actual result?

Just curious...

May I know what is the keywords you are trying to target? SENukeX ranking power is limited. There is a way to boost the ranking power but usually if you pick keyword within 500K quote search competition should be fine.

After setup all the web 2.0 properties, send it to an indexer for fast indexing, I think SENukeX had a default indexer, you may try backlinksindexer or Nuclear Link Indexer for the job, any one will do.

Usually people fail because they pick the wrong keyword...

PM me if you have more questions.

[Rukshan]

I don't see any bug with Senukex. You need to make a proper plan to manage backlinks structure to get best results. As a hint use Social networks to make Tier 1 backlinks and blast them with profile backlinks. You also need to use backlink indexing tool, Ping tool and Social bookmarking tool to index those new properties.

[neil_patmore]

Oh no, here we go again! :-)

Eric, the most effective way to use this or any other clone software is to build a network of web 2.0 properties which point to your money site and act as 'buffer' sites. You then create spammy type links to the web 2.0 properties with the generally correct assumption that link juice is passed through the web 2.0 sites whilst any penalties are not.

More advanced use includes creating a network of web 2.0 sites around your money site and creating open or closed link wheels to each site within your web 2.0 network. You can then create spammy links to each site within each tier of your network. You can end up with a powerful link pyramid to your money site and on the contrary to what Mike says, this does work, but there is a big problem with this strategy which makes Mike's argument a very valid one:

This whole strategy relies on the web 2.0 buffer sites to remain in place. You have no control over these sites and the owners can delete the sites or make the OBL's nofollow whenever they please. When this happens, the whole strategy becomes virtually useless.

These web 2.0 sites are slowly but surely deleting accounts that are creating low quality sites with backlinks to the pages. So you could use the software for several weeks only for your efforts to be demolished at the buffer site level.

Is it really a good idea to spend $147 a month and countless hours of your time on a strategy the you effectively have no control over?

[Natlex]

I personally never found Senukex worth it's cost. I really wonder why people bother with it. I can see that web 2.0s might worth but I feel even with automation they take a lot of time to manage vs other sources of backlinks such as articles/social bookmarks.. (which have better software with one time fees).

[Tmill]

To use Senukex effectively you will have to make the links appear real. When your links come off as spam then most of them wont get indexed. I didn't use the program right for a couple months as well and was just building pointless links. Submit the links over a long period of time as well as using multiple email accounts per blast.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by Matt Red

I mean, there are a lot of success stories with Senuke..... so i think that answer is a little outrageous.

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outrageous is claiming that links known not to work very well after Panda are magically made great because a piece of software placed them. Outrageous, silly and delusional. I have yet to see a Single success story in this forum that was backed up by any hard evidence. Facts are outside of Senukeservice sellers and their testimonial pages there are more complaints that it does not work than do.

[Mike Anthony]

Originally Posted by neil_patmore

You can end up with a powerful link pyramid to your money site and on the contrary to what Mike says, this does work, but there is a big problem with this strategy which makes Mike's argument a very valid one:

This whole strategy relies on the web 2.0 buffer sites to remain in place. You have no control over these sites and the owners can delete the sites or make the OBL's nofollow whenever they please. When this happens, the whole strategy becomes virtually useless.

Thing is Neil everything is relative. Let me clarify that position a little more. Contrary to what you say I say I do think that you can use buffer sites but why oh why would I use web 2.0 sites instead of some decent blog comments that i can actually find with good juice? and why would I use forum profiles and bookmarks rather than press releases and article marketing. Do people every link to a bookmark site or forum profile because they think its good content? At least with an article theres a prayer.

My objection to SenukeX is well known so I am surprised to see you mischaracterize it ( I doubt it was intentional). . Its a total waste for the cash and its loaded up with the worse kind of links possible - forum profiles.

Why are they the worse - well let me count the ways -

A) forum profiles are most of the time buried deep into the site and get little of the juice flowing through a site. A lof of them are entirely cutoff from the site
B) Forum profiles get deleted regularly by webmasters due to the accounts becoming dormant
C) Forum profiles get deleted because webmasters routinely delete them for spam AND REPORT usernames etc to other webmasters
D) Forum software makers constantly update their customers software to give better spam protection and in the process make the links nofollowed
E) Forum profiles pages are low in content and easy to see footprints which Google can easily spot and program algo changes for
F) sites that are slammed by forum profile spammers are dropping thousands of links dividing up any of the little PR juice that there was to begin with.

Furthermore software like SenukeX just compounds the problem by loading up the software with the same sites that all the SenukeX users and service providers run mercilessly until the webmasters can't take it anymore. Given the ridiculous pricing (essentially$1800 a year for those not bootlegging it) a high percentage of customers are running the software for themselves and other s to recoup costs.

So buffer sites I do think can work. I prefer to call them funnel sites for the way I would use them but Senukex is a lousy way to build up juice. Hate to say it because I don't like Spamming ANY site but scrapebox is better for that and AMR and all whole lot cheaper. Fact is if you really use Scrapebox to FINDS the blogs that convey the most juice to your site you don;t even need to spam. The whole point of the Funnel site is to find sites with High PR and low OBL and as fate would have it those tend to not be the sites that comment spammers can get links on because they are moderated.

Hey that tanking thread was still enjoyable and educational. Hope you were able to get back on track with ranking the site. Best wishes to you for the New year.

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

if you pick keyword within 500K quote search competition should be fine.

The number of listings has NOTHING to do with the level of competition.

[neil_patmore]

My objection to SenukeX is well known so I am surprised to see you mischaracterize it ( I doubt it was intentional). . Its a total waste for the cash and its loaded up with the worse kind of links possible - forum profiles.

LOL, no it wasn't intentional Mike!

Hey that tanking thread was still enjoyable and educational. Hope you were able to get back on track with ranking the site. Best wishes to you for the New year.

Thanks, there may be another on the way soon (just gotta be extra sure this one works tho :-) ). All the best to you too.

[Jeff Snyder]

Originally Posted by EricBaglio

I had SeNukeX for a couple months but didn't really notice all that many good results. My links weren't really getting indexed well and I wasn't seeing much action in the SERPS.

Lately I'll see someone ask which is better: SeNuke vs Magic Submitter vs Rankbuilder and a lot of times there will be answers like "SeNuke is awesome if you know how to use it right." or "SeNuke works great as long as your not a newbie and actually know how to use it correctly."

So what is the right way to use SeNuke to get the most out of it? I'd like to know and I'm sure others would like to know as well. What are some methods Warriors have implemented that yielded actual result?

Just curious...

You said you've been using it for a couple months. Can you elaborate on how you've been using the software?

SENuke still has features that can streamline otherwise labor-intesnsive tasks. Take advantage of press release distribution, article marketing and social bookmarking. All of these can safely build links to your money site. Use social bookmarks to help index your articles, press releases, and new content on your money site.

The most important aspect to keeping your accounts alive and indexed is to make everything as natural as possible.

With social bookmarks, find a bunch of relevant (non-competitive if you desire) sites in your market and randomly bookmark those sites across your account. Also start bookmarking other random non-related sites like a normal person would. This is one of the most important elements people miss.

With web 2.0's, I suggest going back through each account and fill out an author profile, add a picture, and other general info. Go find other relevant blogs and post a few comments. Not for link juice, but to make yourself appear to be an active member of the community. 90% of people using automation software aren't doing this, which means that you'll be at the bottom of the list for sites that get removed due to suspected spam.

Continue adding fresh, unique content to your web 2.0 sites and build forum profile links to those sites along with social bookmarks. Skip the forum profiles for your money site. You'd be surprised how quickly you establish decent PR on your web 2.0's.

[EricBaglio]

Originally Posted by Jeff Snyder

You said you've been using it for a couple months. Can you elaborate on how you've been using the software?
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The most important aspect to keeping your accounts alive and indexed is to make everything as natural as possible.
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With web 2.0's, I suggest going back through each account and fill out an author profile, add a picture, and other general info. Go find other relevant blogs and post a few comments. Not for link juice, but to make yourself appear to be an active member of the community. 90% of people using automation software aren't doing this, which means that you'll be at the bottom of the list for sites that get removed due to suspected spam.
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I would just like to clarify right now that I am not using this software anymore. I had it about 6 months ago but I brought it up because of all the threads I see in the forum. People ask if it works and other people say it works if you know how to use it correctly...I do like your idea about going back in and adding author profiles though. That is probably a smart idea. I think you're right too. I don't know of that many people that do this step. If they do, they don't mention it usually.

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Best way? uninstall it and get refund. Don't you know that people say "you have to know how to use it" about anything even if the things track record is that it just doesn't work? Its the universal cover story for anything that generally fails.

I have noticed this. That's why I brought it up. I want to see some actual theories about this rather than just a blanket "you have to know how to do it right..." statement. If someone is having success with this software, I'd like to know what distinguishes them from the countless users that are having dwindling results.

Originally Posted by kkchoon

May I know what is the keywords you are trying to target? SENukeX ranking power is limited. There is a way to boost the ranking power but usually if you pick keyword within 500K quote search competition should be fine.

After setup all the web 2.0 properties, send it to an indexer for fast indexing, I think SENukeX had a default indexer, you may try backlinksindexer or Nuclear Link Indexer for the job, any one will do.

Usually people fail because they pick the wrong keyword...

PM me if you have more questions.

Thanks for the tip. I'll take a look at those indexers. I don't have a keyword right now to share however since I'm not actively using this software. I have Rankbuilder which is pretty similar for about half the cost. Anything that I learn from this thread, I'm sure I can apply to RB. If I'm successful, maybe I'll give SENukeX another shot.

Originally Posted by neil_patmore

Oh no, here we go again! :-)

Eric, the most effective way to use this or any other clone software is to build a network of web 2.0 properties which point to your money site and act as 'buffer' sites. You then create spammy type links to the web 2.0 properties with the generally correct assumption that link juice is passed through the web 2.0 sites whilst any penalties are not.

More advanced use includes creating a network of web 2.0 sites around your money site and creating open or closed link wheels to each site within your web 2.0 network. You can then create spammy links to each site within each tier of your network. You can end up with a powerful link pyramid to your money site and on the contrary to what Mike says, this does work, but there is a big problem with this strategy which makes Mike's argument a very valid one:

This whole strategy relies on the web 2.0 buffer sites to remain in place. You have no control over these sites and the owners can delete the sites or make the OBL's nofollow whenever they please. When this happens, the whole strategy becomes virtually useless.

These web 2.0 sites are slowly but surely deleting accounts that are creating low quality sites with backlinks to the pages. So you could use the software for several weeks only for your efforts to be demolished at the buffer site level.

Is it really a good idea to spend $147 a month and countless hours of your time on a strategy the you effectively have no control over?

The buffer site tactic seems to be pretty popular. I've seen this discussed in countless threads. I think this is a crucial step as well. I prefer open ended linkwheels to closed ones.

Also, I don't necessarily agree with you about the 2.0 sites all losing their reliability. The chance of all these sites losing their effectiveness is pretty slim. I think if 80% of these sites stay in tact, it's still a pretty effective strategy. It's like Social Bookmarks: Some are approved and some aren't. It comes down to a numbers game. Be persistent and you'll see steady results.

[himanuzo]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

May I know what is the keywords you are trying to target? SENukeX ranking power is limited. There is a way to boost the ranking power but usually if you pick keyword within 500K quote search competition should be fine.

After setup all the web 2.0 properties, send it to an indexer for fast indexing, I think SENukeX had a default indexer, you may try backlinksindexer or Nuclear Link Indexer for the job, any one will do.

Usually people fail because they pick the wrong keyword...

PM me if you have more questions.

He is right. Two of my websites got ranked at Google with SE Nuke for the low competition keywords.

If you want to rank keywords with high competition at Google, you need to search thousands of authority sites for backlining.