Google Dancing Question

[latnem]

Hey Warriors,

So from what I read people say the dance with google can take up to three months to settle.
So is it basically useless to check your SERPs for the first three months of the site?

My Site Example:
bounced between #80 and #12 for about a month
got to #4 for about 5 days and then dropped to #8

When my site settled at #4 for 5 days I started getting decent organic traffic and thought my google dance was over.

Now that it dropped down from #4 to #8 I'm wondering if this even means anything since I still could be "dancing"

Also, after the "three months" have passed does your site stay stable? Or does it still dance if you build more backlinks?

Thanks Guys!

[Clint Faber]

Although the algorithms are continuously changing and search engines we have a consistent experience with Google proving that the first month of a brand-new domain which has not been registered the prior year will fluctuate rankings for the first month.

After the first month things should start stabilizing showing you average position. You can start assessing your SeO efforts based on this average position to determine whether or not you should shift to a different strategy.

After we register a new name we quickly post a link on twitter to get it indexed ASAP after that we began distributing articles to document sharing sites such as Docstoc and scribd. We try to distribute high-quality unique material specific to addressing concerns in the natch for about the first 2 to 3 months after that we began using PLR material and spun articles to continue our link building strategy.

So in summary for the first month things are very unmeasurable for a new domain. The next two months following you will be able to obtain a average position where you can determine whether or not to change your SeO strategies.

[latnem]

Originally Posted by Clint Faber

Although the algorithms are continuously changing and search engines we have a consistent experience with Google proving that the first month of a brand-new domain which has not been registered the prior year will fluctuate rankings for the first month.

After the first month things should start stabilizing showing you average position. You can start assessing your SeO efforts based on this average position to determine whether or not you should shift to a different strategy.

After we register a new name we quickly post a link on twitter to get it indexed ASAP after that we began distributing articles to document sharing sites such as Docstoc and scribd. We try to distribute high-quality unique material specific to addressing concerns in the natch for about the first 2 to 3 months after that we began using PLR material and spun articles to continue our link building strategy.

So in summary for the first month things are very unmeasurable for a new domain. The next two months following you will be able to obtain a average position where you can determine whether or not to change your SeO strategies.

Thanks for the in-depth response Clint. Good info

Originally Posted by latnem

Also, after the "three months" have passed does your site stay stable? Or does it still dance if you build more backlinks?

Regarding this, can anyone chime in? Thanks

[furniture7]

The name "Google Dance" is often used to describe the index update of the Google search engine. Google's index update occurs on average once per month. It can be identified by significant movement in search results and especially by Google's cache of all indexed pages reflecting the status of Google's last spidering

[Trevor]

Moving from number 4 to 8 doesn't necessarily have to be a Google Dance. In fact, it's possible that your competitors were working on better rankings and just outranked you.

I had sites losing their rankings and being pushed from the first page to nowhere to be seen (maybe page 10 or something), but I just kept going and didn't bother about it too much and after a month I got back with a vengeance.

So yeah, if you were pushed down the SERPs ladder, just keep doing what you have been doing and you should be back sooner or later, maybe with better rankings than ever.

[frankcans]

Well, we have the same case. Only Google knows.

[Clint Faber]

Originally Posted by latnem

Thanks for the in-depth response Clint. Good info
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Regarding this, can anyone chime in? Thanks

Happy to offer you a detailed explanation on my experiences and what has and has not worked as this is what the form is set up for helping one another succeed in sharing expertise.

This forum offers a fantastic tool if you wish to thank someone for the information they provided it is designated in the little black box Thanks button. When the thankful user clicks this button it puts the think post into his profile for all to view which helps the distribution of quality material to others looking fror useful material from a specific user.

On to answer the question which I failed to address specifically as for is the continuation of SeO efforts. It was my intention to portray the continuous development of back links when I stated "after two or three months after that we began using PLR material"

We do in fact continue to build back links to our site utilizing document sharing sites but rather than 100% unique. As far as the specific of how many back links you will need each day and whether or not you need unique articles or spun versions you will in fact need to test yourself as it varies.

[Clint Faber]

Originally Posted by sisatel

Google does not dance anymore and has not danced for over a year. A google dance is a term referring to the way google used to update their SERP results, every 4 – 6 weeks. There was usually a massive change in the search results and the search results were generally unstable. Now google uses a continuously updating pattern so the results shown by google are much more stable than they once were.

This is not accurate the Google dance refers to the fluctuation in rankings and not necessarily to a algorithm change. As you can see the Google dance still exists for new sites.

But let's not get all caught up in the terminology you knew what the poster was referring to brat

[Clint Faber]

Originally Posted by Trevor

So yeah, if you were pushed down the SERPs ladder, just keep doing what you have been doing and you should be back sooner or later, maybe with better rankings than ever.

I have to agree with you that the fluctuation can definitely be due to different techniques implemented by competitors but have to disagree with just keep doing what you're doing and some day in the distant future you will get back up there buddy and be a winner.

You constantly need to split test different methods to find the one that works for you and as you do this always keep a eye on what your competitors are doing so you know whether or not it is because of your techniques or a outside source. So do not just blindly continue implementing a technique that is not proving results.