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Old 01-05-2012, 01:06 PM   #1
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Default So buying links is bad right? Do you use them?

how comes major companies spend $xx,xxx per month on this?

Does anyone use a brokering service to buy links

I have been testing out a homepage link service recently and the results havent been too bad for what i have purchased.

Whats your experience with buying links?

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I do buy links from time to time. As a matter of fact i find it highly helpful for my link building effort.

Before you buy links here are some tips:

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Buy quality links and not quantity
Send the links to your web 2.0 or articles and not directly to your site.

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please consider that there are 2 different kinds of buying for links as discussed here:

paying to outsource linkbuilding
paying for the link itself

of course you need to be careful with both, but when done right you will definitely benefit a lot of it

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Default Re: So buying links is bad right? Do you use them?

im talking about buying the link itself

High PR Homepage Links

at the moment i have them linking to my website, its merely for testing. Linking them across web 2.0's is a good idea too.

Anyone know any link marketplaces for buying and selling

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I would be use this very careful and on an individual basis (or maybe find them via Fiverr)..
sponsored posts, link marketplaces etc. are (more) easy to identify by Google

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If you don't have time or knowledge of creating backlinks then buying backlinks is your best option. It's actually a very popular practice.

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You can always buy YOUR links. I mean, invest in your own stuff, create your own diversity, power and target, with the ability to use them whenever you wish/need them.



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im talking about buying the link itself

High PR Homepage Links

at the moment i have them linking to my website, its merely for testing. Linking them across web 2.0's is a good idea too.

Anyone know any link marketplaces for buying and selling
Buying links from the actual owners of the website is ok and can work out well.

It seems links from web2.0 properties do not have the same weight as a few years ago. I still use them but they are on automatic on my own properties.

You asked so I'm telling....
I have a SEO backlinking service (maybe some of my clients will chime in) but what I am doing right now is offering a few warriors free linking in exchange for testimonies.

If interested click the link in my signature for free links for warriors.

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Old 01-05-2012, 02:36 PM   #9
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Buying links from the actual owners of the website is ok and can work out well.

It seems links from web2.0 properties do not have the same weight as a few years ago. I still use them but they are on automatic on my own properties.

You asked so I'm telling....
I have a SEO backlinking service (maybe some of my clients will chime in) but what I am doing right now is offering a few warriors free linking in exchange for testimonies.

If interested click the link in my signature for free links for warriors.

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Yes this is what i mean buying them directly from webmasters, i have come across linkadage.com and it seems to be the place i am looking for

Re web 2.0 - i mean buying links from sites and linking them to my web 2.0 satellite sites so the link juice is passed on to my money site without the risk of my money site getting in trouble.

At the moment i just have them linked to my money site.

What exactly is your offer, i really not interested in article blasts, indexing sites and such. Im using all those at the moment really want to find someone with a little more power

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Why to buy links if you are capable to post quality contents and is doing well organic SEO.Buying link is done by the marketers who haven't time but money.
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how comes major companies spend ,xxx per month on this?
Because it works. Very few SEO companies will admit it to Google but buying links in one shape or form still drives much of Google's results. However its much too expensive to buy each link and it comes with alot of risk that the links will not be removed. Far better to buy domains that already have links to them with PR and be able to control all the links on the page and keep them.

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Old 01-06-2012, 11:23 AM   #13
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Because it works. Very few SEO companies will admit it to Google but buying links in one shape or form still drives much of Google's results. However its much too expensive to buy each link and it comes with alot of risk that the links will not be removed. Far better to buy domains that already have links to them with PR and be able to control all the links on the page and keep them.
Yes i am slowly coming around to this little truth, i guess its something i should factor into my future link building campaigns

i think the costs of buying a link as opposed to buying a domain, building a website and maintaining it for page rank is probably cheaper

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Buying backlinks is not bad as long as you get them from quality resources.
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i think the costs of buying a link as opposed to buying a domain, building a website and maintaining it for page rank is probably cheaper
Certainly if you only want one. Most people however have to buy several for different sites and serps. Adds up in no time. Awhile back I was talking to a guy that buys PR2s for $15 each. BY the time he bought three he was above the price of a PR2 domain.

If you just need a few high Pr links then buying is more cost effect certainly though

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I got some success buying links,although they will not rank your site single handedly.

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Yeh it depends on the competition. For the keyword I'm targeting "basement waterproofing NJ" I am searching competition and seeing that nearly ALL showing on the first page in google places ARE spending fortunes on backlinks.

Then some other competitors barely have any backlinks but are still showing on page 1. They're buying from yahoo, joeants, xmarks, and all sorts of other good ranking sites.

I'm trying to learn how to do this myself and did not realize how much money some of these companies are likely spending just to get ranked. My question is is there any way around that?
If I have a competitor with only 69 backlinks, showing on page 1, how the hell are they doing it? Does that just mean its not a competitive keyword? If I do 300 backlinks for the website I'm trying to market would it be hard to get ranked on page 1 with google places?

I don't mean to hijack the thread just figured it would be relevant. It seems like theres definitely room to get this companies page (www.allcountywaterproofing.com) on page 1 how should I go about link building for them if they're already spending most their money on PPC? Or should I just buy one of the cheaper link building services on this site?

I just want something that will be effective.
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There's a website that connects publishers and advertisers for links. You can choose in content links, or blogroll links. For a high quality and legit PR9 blogroll link will run you around $1,000 per month.

...and that should boost any PR0 website to a solid PR6 come next Google update.

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I can tell you I worked for a large agency here in the UK with big clients a few examples

George foreman Grills
Jet2
StanJames
Thorntons

Basically BIG BIG companies and the core link strategy the agency I worked for used for all these companies was paid links and they were ranking for some crazy competitive terms.

Google doesn't like it but everyone is doing it especially big companies and it works.

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Certainly if you only want one. Most people however have to buy several for different sites and serps. Adds up in no time. Awhile back I was talking to a guy that buys PR2s for $15 each. BY the time he bought three he was above the price of a PR2 domain.

If you just need a few high Pr links then buying is more cost effect certainly though
i didnt mean if i just wanted one, it doesnt matter how many you want, 1:1 ratio the cost of buying a link is cheaper than buying a domain, maintaining content and linkbuilding

so therefore the buying 50 links is going to be cheaper than buying 50 domains.

I guess you can sell links on these domains to make some money back and also if you have multiple domains that needs links you can add them, but them but for just buying links to one site i think its cheaper buying the links

correct me if im missing something, i know you are speaking from experience, and i am just speculating.

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I got some success buying links,although they will not rank your site single handedly.
Yes well i am using article blasts and BMR as my main link building strategy but its not enough to get me to number one. So now i am experimenting with other methods, buying links is just one of them.

I think i will always use BMR + Article Blasts as my base for link building and then add what ever works best on top. So far buying links seems to be doing good in terms of SERP increase.

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I have purchased links too numerous times. Never really had a problem with it as most services are usually fairly cheap and I've seen big improvements in my site rankings. As stated above tho it's probably best to purchase some links but also do your own backlinking.
Yes correct, any recommendations for places to buy links, im seeing a lot of offers but have no way of telling if they are legit or not.

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There's a website that connects publishers and advertisers for links. You can choose in content links, or blogroll links. For a high quality and legit PR9 blogroll link will run you around $1,000 per month.

...and that should boost any PR0 website to a solid PR6 come next Google update.
Yes im hoping this will happen to me, then i can start attracting some guest bloggers to start getting some decent content on the sites, just another strategy to play about with.

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I can tell you I worked for a large agency here in the UK with big clients a few examples

George foreman Grills
Jet2
StanJames
Thorntons

Basically BIG BIG companies and the core link strategy the agency I worked for used for all these companies was paid links and they were ranking for some crazy competitive terms.

Google doesn't like it but everyone is doing it especially big companies and it works.
Wow cool, thanks for the insight, i cant believe i was so naive to think these companies didn't do it before. Did you learn anything else these big companies do that perhaps could help us?

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Wow cool, thanks for the insight, i cant believe i was so naive to think these companies didn't do it before. Did you learn anything else these big companies do that perhaps could help us?
Yeah they are good at cold calling and bull****ting leads/clients and they massively overcharge for everything.

the sort of stuff they charge $2000 for you could outsource for $100 on Odesk.

Plus they aren't as good as a lot of people in the affiliate industry, one thing I always thought while I was there was none of them would of made decent money in our industry.

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how comes major companies spend ,xxx per month on this?

Does anyone use a brokering service to buy links

I have been testing out a homepage link service recently and the results havent been too bad for what i have purchased.

Whats your experience with buying links?
Google is not psychic. They don't automatically know a link is paid just because you paid for it. I could sell you a link on one of my sites, and they would have no idea that it is a paid link.

Click here, and the bunny gets it.
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/\ Yeh but don't they know the pr value? And don't they also know that if its high you're very likely paying for that link? Unless you can show me a wealth of pr9 sites that don't charge otherwise I think google may in fact be psychic.
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Yeah they are good at cold calling and bull****ting leads/clients and they massively overcharge for everything.

the sort of stuff they charge $2000 for you could outsource for $100 on Odesk.

Plus they aren't as good as a lot of people in the affiliate industry, one thing I always thought while I was there was none of them would of made decent money in our industry.
haha ill take that into consideration when i have the money to spend on some premier services

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Google is not psychic. They don't automatically know a link is paid just because you paid for it. I could sell you a link on one of my sites, and they would have no idea that it is a paid link.
ye this is what i originally thought, but then i read so many reports saying buying links got people banned, link marketplaces getting shutdown and users getting penalised that i just thought in my headd that google must know something.

But you are completely right, they have no way of knowing if a link on a site is paid for or not

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/ Yeh but don't they know the pr value? And don't they also know that if its high you're very likely paying for that link? Unless you can show me a wealth of pr9 sites that don't charge otherwise I think google may in fact be psychic.
While this may be true they dont actually have any proof to back up their claim, its merely speculative, so realistically they cant do anything about it.

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Nothing really bad about buying backlink, they all depend on how you do it.
If buying a buck and want them delivered with little space of time use your web 2.0 if in your website, strategies it to be delivered gradually otherwise buying backlinks become bad idea.

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Buying links might be good or bad, depending on the number of such links pointing at your website, the PR of the pages from which you buy links, domains ages, anchors of the links and so many other factors to name in here. The fact is nearly all SEO companies spend some amounts of cash they receive from their customers on buying links from quality sites, blogs, directories and other portals which are related to the subjects and niches of their customers' portals.

If some good links are gained, even in paid forms but they come from authority spots, the impacts on ranks would be very great. Sometimes it is better not to buy links from specific vendors, like the sites which have already sold hundreds of links to the buyers and the ones which are already listed on many link brokerage networks and portals. If there are too many outgoing links on pages of websites from which you are going to buy links, it is better to look for other solutions and sellers.

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My personal experiance of link building from fiverr gigs has been mixed, i thought the link wheel services wouldn't be so bad because it has a "buffer" against my main money site so when they got blasted with the 500+ links it would be ok.

Turns out it aint, if someone or a web admin of the site that gets spammed by the fiverr gig users software gets upset by you, they can report you for spam by tracking down the link tunnel to your main website - lower google ranking, blacklisted IP address and worst of all gets you $5 wasted.

Some paid link building services do work however, I have started venturing into the "Write you article and submit to PR6+ website" relms, seems to cost alot more than the old $5 gigs - but quality comes at a cost.



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It's not that buying links is bad, it's that any practice which is seen by Google as gaming their algorithm, is something they will try to devalue. This includes any type of backlinking.

So what's important in backlinking is to do it in a way which looks natural to Google. So if you're going to buy a backlink on a site, do it privately so Google doesn't spot that the link is part of a paid system. If you're going to create backlinks, make them look as natural as possible, including a variety of different types of backlinks, more backlinks from the more popular sites (which is one of the unique factors in my new social bookmarking service (see my Sig)), a variety of anchor texts etc.

Available on the same site (see my Sig), is a free report on how to maximise the benefits from backlinking, which goes into much more detail on these issues.

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Google does not know a paid link from a hole in the ground.

But they do have ways of detecting what may be a paid link.

I sell links and tons of them. Each link broker is basically on
the same page with these guidelines:

-Higher up on a page, contextual, in article. Some do
request near the bottom.
-Only on one page, not global.
-No links on the page to an "advertise here" page. That's a
sure tip off that links may be paid for. I had to change
mine to a simple contact page.

However, some buy links for traffic, not google rankings. My
pages are authoritative, and I get laser-traffic from my own
hard work.

Discounting links is not the same as penalties. Google does
not know a paid link is a paid link, unless you put "sponsor"
next to it, or "paid ads" or other such rot. But then, that's
stupid.

Google does not know everything. They had no idea JCPenney
was buying links until someone told them. Even then, contrary
to popular misstatements, they did not penalize JCP. They just
discounted the links, and JCP dropped to their usual spot. A
penalty would have either de-indexed them, or dropped them way
off the map. Neither happened. In the end, the paid links did not
help, nor did they hurt.

Google does not hate paid links. People always misquote that line.
They ignore the rest of the statement. If people would just read
for themselves instead of swallowing a bunch of BS...

A simple nofollow would be readily acceptable for a paid link. Google
tells you to do this. But, most will not buy a link with nofollow.

Paid links are terrific if done right, for both seller and buyer.

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Google does not know a paid link from a hole in the ground.

But they do have ways of detecting what may be a paid link.

I sell links and tons of them. Each link broker is basically on
the same page with these guidelines:

-Higher up on a page, contextual, in article. Some do
request near the bottom.
-Only on one page, not global.
-No links on the page to an "advertise here" page. That's a
sure tip off that links may be paid for. I had to change
mine to a simple contact page.

However, some buy links for traffic, not google rankings. My
pages are authoritative, and I get laser-traffic from my own
hard work.

Discounting links is not the same as penalties. Google does
not know a paid link is a paid link, unless you put "sponsor"
next to it, or "paid ads" or other such rot. But then, that's
stupid.

Google does not know everything. They had no idea JCPenney
was buying links until someone told them. Even then, contrary
to popular misstatements, they did not penalize JCP. They just
discounted the links, and JCP dropped to their usual spot. A
penalty would have either de-indexed them, or dropped them way
off the map. Neither happened. In the end, the paid links did not
help, nor did they hurt.

Google does not hate paid links. People always misquote that line.
They ignore the rest of the statement. If people would just read
for themselves instead of swallowing a bunch of BS...

A simple nofollow would be readily acceptable for a paid link. Google
tells you to do this. But, most will not buy a link with nofollow.

Paid links are terrific if done right, for both seller and buyer.

Paul
so sitewide links are a bad thing in your opinion? can you explain why please

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i didnt mean if i just wanted one, it doesnt matter how many you want, 1:1 ratio the cost of buying a link is cheaper than buying a domain, maintaining content and linkbuilding

so therefore the buying 50 links is going to be cheaper than buying 50 domains.

are we talking about the same thing? I'm talking about domains bought WITH links to them already. If we are talking about the same thing then-

I don't see how you are figuring that unless you are talking about links for ONE site and even then that might be inaccurate

lets say you have 5 sites 10 keywords each and your annual cost for the links are $40 each . Thats $400 per year per site or $2,000 for 5

but if you bought 5 domains with PR at $140 each then thats $700. you can put multiple links on a domains pages and even create secondary pages that will have juice as well

Talking about one site? say five keywords? $200

still could buy two domains and in your sleep do a few three way link exchanges and come out ahead. Plus theres no second year costs but the domain registration.

Now one site and you run a full time business for it and want some umphh quick then sure buy some quick links WHEN you find the reputable dealers that won't yank the links a few months later and resell the space when you can't do anything about it. Theres plenty place for both approaches. I am just telling you the ability to reuse domains bought with PR and links is MUCH less expensive if you intend in ranking multiple terms than going ahead and having to buy each unreusable link asset every time.

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They are not contextual. Outside of blogrolls from a blogger that just likes your site they are usually bought.

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I do buy links from time to time. As a matter of fact i find it highly helpful for my link building effort.

Before you buy links here are some tips:

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Big companies are paying $xx.xxx a month for SEO because they are being screwed over I buy all my links, do a lot of social bookmarking & web 2.0'ing. I usually blast these links with scrapebox/xrumer links.
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Let's face it, buying links works, and Google knows that.

It's the same reason that Google just punished themselves for their recent Google Chrome's marketing campaign.

Now, can you get in trouble if caught? Sure. Just like the same way that if they catch you building crappy Web 2.0 networks they'd punish you.

If you are *smart* about the way you do it, you likely will never have a problem. If you are like the GiftBasket guys that were spending $xx,xxx/mo. on links on any and every website in the world then you WILL get caught eventually.

It also greatly depends on the market you are in, big markets with big $$ are much more visible then some of the smaller niches.

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If you are *smart* about the way you do it, you likely will never have a problem. If you are like the GiftBasket guys that were spending ,xxx/mo. on links on any and every website in the world then you WILL get caught eventually.
Oh wow thanks RevSEO - that takes me back. That was a fun niche when I had customers in it. Those guys REALLY compete. Almost as bad as the online Poker guys. lol

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Oh wow thanks RevSEO - that takes me back. That was a fun niche when I had customers in it. Those guys REALLY compete. Almost as bad as the online Poker guys. lol
Ya, there's still quite a few companies that I've come across with similar spending habits. One's a chinese wholesale website, that I won't name but is rather popular. My guess is they spend close to $xxx,xxx/mo. in links alone. If you've ever seen a PR8+ site that sells links, they've got a link from it. And yet, they've been doing this for YEARS without any type of penalty from Google....It makes you wonder...

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I have bought some links in the past and i think they help, its so hard to tell.

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are we talking about the same thing? I'm talking about domains bought WITH links to them already. If we are talking about the same thing then-

I don't see how you are figuring that unless you are talking about links for ONE site and even then that might be inaccurate

lets say you have 5 sites 10 keywords each and your annual cost for the links are $40 each . Thats $400 per year per site or $2,000 for 5

but if you bought 5 domains with PR at $140 each then thats $700. you can put multiple links on a domains pages and even create secondary pages that will have juice as well

Talking about one site? say five keywords? $200

still could buy two domains and in your sleep do a few three way link exchanges and come out ahead. Plus theres no second year costs but the domain registration.

Now one site and you run a full time business for it and want some umphh quick then sure buy some quick links WHEN you find the reputable dealers that won't yank the links a few months later and resell the space when you can't do anything about it. Theres plenty place for both approaches. I am just telling you the ability to reuse domains bought with PR and links is MUCH less expensive if you intend in ranking multiple terms than going ahead and having to buy each unreusable link asset every time.



They are not contextual. Outside of blogrolls from a blogger that just likes your site they are usually bought.
yes we are talking about the same thing.

Of course if you have multiple domains and keywords you want to rank for then having your own network will work out much cheaper

i understand that you buy domains that already have links to them but surely you have to keep building links and adding content to each of these domains for them to keep their pagerank? This could be costly and probably outweigh the cost of just buying a few links for a few keyword and domains through a marketplace or broker right??

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Let's face it, buying links works, and Google knows that.

It's the same reason that Google just punished themselves for their recent Google Chrome's marketing campaign.

Now, can you get in trouble if caught? Sure. Just like the same way that if they catch you building crappy Web 2.0 networks they'd punish you.

If you are *smart* about the way you do it, you likely will never have a problem. If you are like the GiftBasket guys that were spending ,xxx/mo. on links on any and every website in the world then you WILL get caught eventually.

It also greatly depends on the market you are in, big markets with big $$ are much more visible then some of the smaller niches.
So how can you be smart about it?

Do you have any tips on how not to get caught?

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Google does not hate paid links. People always misquote that line.
I have read on the WF that Google has explicitly stated that they hate anyone GAMING THEIR ALGORITHM, which paid links obvious IS! That perspective makes logical sense too.


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Because it works. Very few SEO companies will admit it to Google but buying links in one shape or form still drives much of Google's results. However its much too expensive to buy each link and it comes with alot of risk that the links will not be removed. Far better to buy domains that already have links to them with PR and be able to control all the links on the page and keep them.
Exactly, If a person is blogging for HOBBY then they can go without backlinking and HOPE to get tons of natural backlinks, but people who are in this as a business realize that outsourcing for the right type of backlinks is critical to staying competitive.

If backlinking on a small scale helps bring better SERPs and traffic on a small scale, then outsourcing/buying the right kind of backlinks on a large scale brings large scale results in terms of SERP positioning and traffic.

The BIG BOYS are buying backlinks(meaning major corporations and top-level SEOs) while the small timers are constantly fear-mongered into staying away from it(and the money it brings).... Pretty clever move actually, but I never listened

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i understand that you buy domains that already have links to them but surely you have to keep building links and adding content to each of these domains for them to keep their pagerank? This could be costly and probably outweigh the cost of just buying a few links for a few keyword and domains through a marketplace or broker right??
Nope. Wrong. All depends on what you buy. I'm coming up a year on some PR 2sand PR3s I ended up not using much and done very little with and They hold PR great. I don't know why people think everyone that owns a website goes back to old pages and deletes links. Thats the way you would lose PR (Regularly updating content has nothing to do whatsoever with PR). Site wide links, blog roll links yes but surely wrong for most other links.

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Nope. Wrong. All depends on what you buy. I'm coming up a year on some PR 2sand PR3s I ended up not using much and done very little with and They hold PR great. I don't know why people think everyone that owns a website goes back to old pages and deletes links. Thats the way you would lose PR (Regularly updating content has nothing to do whatsoever with PR). Site wide links, blog roll links yes but surely wrong for most other links.
i see, thanks for correcting me. I guess you are right, if google awarded a site a certain PR because of its backlinks and they dont change a year on then there is no reason why that pagerank should change. I guess you just have to make sure those links do not disappear.

I like you site btw, very nicely designed

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i see, thanks for correcting me. I guess you are right, if google awarded a site a certain PR because of its backlinks and they dont change a year on then there is no reason why that pagerank should change. I guess you just have to make sure those links do not disappear.

I like you site btw, very nicely designed
I had a site last year that dropped from PR5 to PR2 and all I did was stop buying one link that was syndicated on this PR8 over 20K page... It literally killed that site's ranking. So Google may say that they don't like it, but they're not giving us incentive to do anything differently (not that I do that now though ^.^).

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I like you site btw, very nicely designed
Thanks but you are kidding right?" LOL. Its a template I threw up just for that offer to WF members. I didn't even up date some pages

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I had a site last year that dropped from PR5 to PR2 and all I did was stop buying one link that was syndicated on this PR8 over 20K page... It literally killed that site's ranking. So Google may say that they don't like it, but they're not giving us incentive to do anything differently (not that I do that now though ^.^).
wow , how much was you paying for that link?

Why did you stop paying for it, was you not seeing a good ROI

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nope not joking, just like the look of it

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Hi! My employer bought 200 links and asked my to create backlinks. It turned out that out 200 links provided around 12-16 are only good links.
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