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Hi Warriors, I already shared this information to my list and got great feedback. Now I want to do the same to all of you. A fast way to get Google's top position is by claiming your Google Places. However, it doesn't end there because today every SEO professional and his mother is claiming Google Places listing and verifying it with an 800 number. And worst, since everybody know that citations or reviews help push the Google Places listing on top, SEO folks are also heavily generating those as well. Well, here's one cool trick you can do to bypass the top Google places listing and it's simple. 1. Add more photos of the local business in your listiing 2. Add more videos about the local business in your listing and 3. Gather enough customer reviews and allow them to be posted on Yelp, Zagat, and Google Google places listings with proper photos and videos and minimal reviews outrank listings with only reviews. Hope you enjoyed this one. Feel free to share your tips as well. |
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Wow!!!, Thanks so much for this hint, and I will certainly apply it to some of my client sites.
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Nice share, thanks. In your opinion where is better to upload the videos? Youtube and then link it or directly on your server? Cheers, Yoangov |
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| I Love Tiffany Dow War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Atlanta
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You sir are full of crap! There are TONS of Google places listings not even completely optimized with minimal or no photos and videos and they out rank older and fully optimized listings. Please explain that. Also reviews have VERY little in ranking as well. If your in a heavily competitive market your images, videos and reviews won't ever be enough to out rank the existing top ranking holders. You're giving half the story if that here and I suspect its just to get clicks on your signature links or something. The true story is that you need to cover many facets of optimization to get your Google Places listing to rank high and if you've been able to achieve ranking with what you've mentioned then you could be targeting a very low competitive industry. |
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You should check out the offline marketing section of this forum - this stuff has been covered a lot in there.
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It's always been a rule never to go for highly competitive keywords and niches unless you have the artillery and years of dedication to pursue the target. As for the signature, you seem to have a sneaky tactic to mention signatures when your signature is about the topic and even claiming to be a Zen Master in it. Judging by your rough neck behavior, it's either you are inciting a retaliation or what else..Thank you but..No thanks In both cases, I'm a warrior and that's the only thing I have to say. Thank you for being a true educated warrior, a "Zen Master" and a gentleman? | |
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| I Love Tiffany Dow War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Atlanta
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Seriously? Always a rule? Just where is that rule and who's the authority that established that rule. REAL SEO folks don't always have the luxury of targeting low competition keyword phrase when they have clients in competitive niches. Oh I'm sorry Mr. Attorney or Mr. Roofer, your niche is just to competitive, I'm a real SEO PRO so I advice not going for City + Attorney or City + Roofer, lets target the easy stuff. Sorry but in the REAL business world that will NEVER fly. I replied only because you're post mentioned Google Places which is my arena of expertise. You didn't even mention that web site SEO is now a major factor in ranking Google places something that is now vitally important as of last year due to merged listings results. Of course I suspect your post is to get links to your signature but at least give the full story and not some half baked BS which misleads people who don't know any better. If you are going to post something and want to gain some authority here post something that's sound advice and not like what you posted. |
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Wow Rus, you're so passionate about SEO but lack something else..Are you usually this negative about things..Why not convert that negative behavior into something else.. I challenge you to be better, a real warrior, be positive and help other warriors and don't burn warriors who are here to help So far that's twice you mentioned "Signatures" I do hope some warriors will pity you and click on yours, since you took enough effort to burn something just to get yours on here. You've been putting that along with your half baked crappy BS hurting those who want to help. You Are Talking as if you are the Google God..Rus I didn't want to break your bubble but buddy, you are not in anyway a Google places expert because Google doesn't give SEO certificates AND THEY DON'T HAVE A GOOGLE PLACES CERTIFICATION program, you don't have any authority, only that which you claim.. And what Baked BS you say here will be colored by your personal intentions. You're angry and cursing from the start, read your posts man and see how angry you are...Am I stepping on your toes Sharing something that you keep from anybody else?Learn to get real man |
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Folks..some people would rather let you think things doesn't work to protect what needs protecting. |
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Yeah i agree with this strategy. I have been doing this activity since few months and my ranking and traffic are increasing in satisfying way.But this method is not a hard and fact method to rank in #1 in 3 weeks.
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ROFL... Somebody trying to teach Russ about "real professional SEO folks" and Google Places? That's comedy gold right there. Dude... Russ is as real of an SEO as real SEOs get and a bonafide expert in the Google Places algorithm. I've worked with him for hours testing things. I've witnessed his work firsthand just helping him do local market testing for search results out of market. He's created one of the top Google Places software applications and written one of the most comprehensive manuals on Places. For the record, Russ never cursed. I would have told you that you were full of DONKEY SH%T |
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Where can i find some info on how to apply Google places. i need to learn this Bad!
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Russ didn't need backup. I read what you posted and thought the same thing. As Russ stated, "There are TONS of Google places listings not even completely optimized with minimal or no photos and videos and they out rank older and fully optimized listings. Please explain that." I never read any salient response from you. Just a bunch of WAAAHHHH SOMEONE CHALLENGED ME ON A FORUM OVER SOMETHING I DECLARED!!! Russ gave you the direct challenge to your statement. He's absolutely correct, I know firsthand exactly what he's talking about. Instead of responding, you first switch your argument to "low competition keywords", to which Russ responded appropriately. If your only strategy is to target low competition keywords in a LOCAL MARKET, then you're not worth a salt as an SEO. The search volume in all but the most giant markets is so low for the HIGH COMPETITION keywords, that the LOW competition keywords are virtually useless and mean nothing. Ranking highly for a term that is rarely searched is taking money from a client to essentially do nothing to solve their REAL PROBLEM which is to get more leads and more customers. Something that I think a lot of you people are completely disconnected from when it comes to working with local businesses as clients. These are real businesses with real people and services - not some foolazz Clickbank PDF crap page. In most markets, there are dozens... if not hundreds of businesses competing for low count search terms like "cincinnati landscaping". Maybe 30-40 searches a month for most metro markets. You're going to target low competition search terms for some 1 search term that happens every 3 months at best? And you seriously think you're going to keep getting paid from a client with that sort of result? You can snow clients for a bit... showing them how they're #1 on Google for all kinds of nonsensical terms that nobody searches - but in the end IF THERE'S NO CONVERSION FOR WHAT YOU'RE SELLING THEN YOU WON'T KEEP A CLIENT. PERIOD. You're selling air, you're scamming. Of course, you have no real response to that challenge as well, so then you pull an ad hominem out on Russ. That usually means you're FOS and have nothing left in the disussion, so you go on the attack. Does that squarely sum it up? I can provide you with many, many examples of work that I have done in local marketing do demonstrate my authority in the matter. Russ can do the same. This forum knows who and what we are and what we do. Now that I have sufficiently redirected this discussion back to the actual topic and talking points, I am certain that everyone would like to hear your response to these questions instead of more of your ad hominem attempts to save face through your crying and personal attacks. I challenge you to be a better warrior and answer the actual challenge to your assertions of "fact" instead of engaging in a debate filled with logical fallacy. |
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Wow! You really took the time to defend yourself. Here's a direct challenge. 72 Hours Atlanta Car Accident Lawyers. ??? Now let's see who's the real thing. LOL, funny how when you catch people wrecking your rep they try their best to let people see how they're the right ones.. Mike, read the entire post...And again.. Here's a direct challenge. 72 Hours - Atlanta Car Accident Lawyers. New domains. Time and place??? and let's find out your skills..Oh and you can gang up since you already are. |
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So you fail to respond again? Wrecking a rep? Answer the direct challenges to the statements that you've made. You still have yet to explain yourself in response to Russ' statement, "There are TONS of Google places listings not even completely optimized with minimal or no photos and videos and they out rank older and fully optimized listings. Please explain that." Your answer was to shift the focus to low competition phrases. When you were challenged on that (to which I deeply clarified why), you got personal. Then when I called you out on all of it, you want to swing your pinga around instead of actually responding to any of the challenges to your statements. You cannot actually respond to the statements. You made the original claim, now support it or STFU. Seems to me that you're attempting to do everything but answer Russ' original challenge to your statement... personal attacks, issuing some sort of SEO challenge... whatever... but you have yet to answer the mfkkkkkkkkkking quetion. Stop trying to play games and divert attention. Answer this... "There are TONS of Google places listings not even completely optimized with minimal or no photos and videos and they out rank older and fully optimized listings. Please explain that." | |
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72 Hours - Atlanta Car Accident Lawyers. New domains. Time and place??? Let's see who's the real thing. |
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I hate to see misinformation blasted out like this... Total bogus info, i don't mean to be harsh but it is.
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The best part is seeing the classic situation wherein a highly self-aggrandizing individual posts something on an internet forum that elicits objection. Then, when the person meets the resistance, they degenerate into a downward spiral of behavior instead of defending what they stated or even engaging in some fashion of reasoned debate. After all, they were the one to make the assertion, right? Are people not entitled to disagree or challenge their claims? Apparently Dominus is incapable of answering the question, and he's now off handing out infractions calling what you stated "rude". If anything, I was more "rude", but he's clearly not handing me any infractions now is he. I think our friend Dominus needs placed on Paul Myers' "watch list". | |
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Back at you Mike..Go on keep on..I respected you when you said that you rest your case. I infracted him because he has no authority to claim this.. Quote:
You keep on telling that I dictate this thread..On the contrary, look who's dominating it. Funny how you keep pointing the finger when it comes back right at you. | |
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Michael, Quote:
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still in the site itself. Google Places Create a listing. If you have an SEO company, you can try listing it there and verifying it with your phone. I created a detailed step by step on this. I'll post the link when I find it..Mike and Company is presently keeping me busy on other things | |
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Ironically, I came to this thread as I'm researching some SEO posts to find someone to handle the SEO for the total gut and re-build of my site that is taking place right now. Not wanting to attempt it myself (as I am no expert at SEO at all!), I put aside some lovely funds to offload it and leave it to someone else who knows what they're doing. I cannot consider the arguing parties in this thread as I only outsource to people who know how to keep their cool! I like to reffer good services like crazy, but would be fearful that someone I throw in their direction would find this thread and it would in turn make me look bad! Like getting angry while driving, due to your faceless shield of the car, I predict that - should these two gents meet in person - they'd both be very nice and friendly to eachother, as well as being good fun company for any of us. Warrior/Un-Warrior - you're both grown men. |
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Rus and Michael are 100% correct with this. Videos and pictures do not do squat. Probably the biggest ranking factor for Google Places these days is that the associated website is optimized properly. And if you cannot rank a business for the "higher competition" keywords in their local market, you should immediately refund them their money. You should not be taking money from any business as an SEO to only rank them for low competition keywords in a local market. That is not what a real SEO does. You need to rank them for the keywords where the traffic is or suggest they hire someone who can. |
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![]() ![]() It's sad that this person chooses to act in such a childish manner.
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I'm just wondering if and when he's ever going to actually answer the question instead of continuing to do his Sammy Davis Jr. tap dance routine. ahem |
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Try going for blog commenting and forum posting, they stand as the best way in order to build quality backlinks of a high PR and of do follow relation for your website.
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terms of the search engine words are no match for results. You can only observe your results write about it but there's no assurance that anybody can duplicate it in any niche. Google doesn't work that way. In fact only the guys at google can really know for sure how they get sites in the top post. We can get sites in the top spots but with a single adjustment in their algo everything can fall down out of the top spot. What I wrote about is based on my own experience. Last year we optimized for several highly competitive geo targeted domains. Over a hundred for a certain niche. Whatever we did for several months we never saw progress. We've thrown thousands of relevant backlinks, made sure backlinks were diverse (backlink diversity and even from different class C ip's), from videos to social media sites and blogs. Being financed back then by someone with a deep pocket, we were allowed to purchase the best tools from Traffic Geyser, SEnuke, Scrapebox nuclear link blaster and backlink packets, megalink blaster. And we did used web 2.0 link wheels backed by pyramid type links. We even made sure that everything looks natural. For several months nothing happened. But this month when I checked the sites most of them were on page one and some were even no. 1 This is the reason why I mentioned in a previous reply to Russ that if you don't have the artillery and persistence to pursue a highly competitive keyword better avoid it. Because it takes time depending on the keyword. I didn't said it was impossible..and I didn't said that you won't get lucky with certain keywords because yes I was lucky with some of the keywords. Some even ranked with just on-page optimization. You and Russ weren't civil earlier, it's the reason why I gave you a taste of your own medicine. But yes, I do respect you and russ because only those in the know can issue such challenges. It's just that I'm a person as well and I thought it wasn't fair to be called names even before you guys gave the point. Sorry about the strong emotions earlier. | |
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You cannot target universal and niche keywords That is exception of your post |
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Now we're approaching something that resembles "reasonable discussion". Maybe now you and Russ can continue debating the actual topic at hand. | |
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My opinion is that if one needs to do all the stuff mentioned above there is a major problem with the target site's optimization and structure. I still stand my ground that your original post only gives a small part of the story to getting ranked in Google places and as such you misleading other people who don't know any better. That's the issue here. You make statements as facts when in reality one can search on Google in many different markets all over the world and the results will prove your statement wrong. That's another issue with your original post, so yeah I called you out you betcha. | |
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Hi Rus, nice to see you here again. As for the part where you said "you misleading other people" you can't prove that. That's an empty accusation and isn't justified. I wrote the original post based on experience and if you say it's wrong then provide proof, give statistics, do due diligence that what you say is true and not merely empty accusations. This is a public forum, I understand that and I appreciate all your opinions but if you make direct accusations isn't it right to provide proof? You claim things, why not do your due diligence and show them here. Post your screen shots, provide your statistics then tell me that you are the right one. If you do that, then I'll bow to you and tell you, Yes, you have a wider experience than me on this but if you just make empty accusations it's not right because anybody can do that. If this thread isn't right, do you think it will reach this long? Even Paul has been here and expressed his opinion about all this. If this thread doesn't bring anything in the table do you think it will survive the sharp eye of the mods? It adds value. If it is misleading, provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and I myself will request that this thread be removed but until then I will consider all your posts as empty accusations and out here to wreck something good. Provide proof of your accusations Rus because you made damaging ones. I'm not angry at you or anything. I just want to give you a chance to prove yourself because of all the accusations you made. |
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i want to ask, how to get the ppc or get money from adsense??
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The OP is making me nauseous... So if I get into easier niches I'm guaranteed to rank in three weeks. Yay!
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Really Wonderful and useful post ... thanks a lot.. |
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Its really helpful information, Thanks for sharing. I have also good advice for all member if you are submitting url every day and u want on immidiate base crawling, then do submission in jaiku and qaiku. Its faster way for craw a link.
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Valuable, straight to the point tips. Didn't know some of these, thanks.
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Thanks for the post man. some really good info here. Thanks a whole lot.
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Nice tips but does this work with any keyword/phrase??
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I have to agree, we've got videos and photos on our place pages and they always rank #1-3 for our keywords. Competitors have none/few.
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its all depend on inbound and outbound links
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