Article Ranks

[outwest]

$39/month

is it a good value? if not what would you recommend . I know BMR is good but thats out of my budget range at the present time

[grexley]

I only use it to backlink my backlinks for now. It takes me about 45 minutes to write an article, then rewrite every sentence. Very boring. But it does slowly drip the article out to a lot of sites, on average about 40 a month so far. And I've been able to locate them in google's index.

They are all pr0 links, as they fall off the main page of the blog they are posted on. And the blogs the articles are posted on are not owned by article ranks, so there is no telling how long the backlinks will be around.

I used a few articles to backlink to hubpages, and after a month or so I did see an increase in traffic to those hubs.

[MikeFriedman]

If that is out of your budget, then I would look at networks that allow you to submit a site in exchange for posting privileges. They usually allow a PR2 or higher. Then you have no monthly cost.

You can pick up PR2's for $20-30.

[dp40oz]

Articleranks is good but Build My Rank is leagues ahead of the others. I would pay the extra $20 for at least 1 month of BMR. If you don't make your money back within the first month you are doing something wrong.

[Musa_Aykac]

You can use articleranks for free by adding a site with pr into the system

Or if you are looking for a Buildmyrank type network you can use our new network for free by also adding a pr site into the system which is linkauthority.com

[chini]

If your after article ranks i can get you discount, just pm me.

[industrial]

I never heard of Article Ranks until one day I received an email from Paypal that my account was charged $39.99 by Article Ranks for a subscription without my knowledge. I found out a former business partner got into my paypal account and paid for a subscription to Article Ranks. After learning of what he did, I contacted Paypal to inform them of the fraud, and filed a refund request to Article Ranks. Yet, Article Ranks declined my request and said we have a "No Refund Policy" I contacted my former business partner and learned he never even used the service, and cancelled the subscription the same day.

It amazes me Article Ranks is insisting on keeping the $39 despite the fraud charge, and the fact the service was not even used. I suggest anyone considering doing business with these guys STAY AWAY! They have no morals.

[Musa_Aykac]

Originally Posted by industrial

I never heard of Article Ranks until one day I received an email from Paypal that my account was charged $39.99 by Article Ranks for a subscription without my knowledge. I found out a former business partner got into my paypal account and paid for a subscription to Article Ranks. After learning of what he did, I contacted Paypal to inform them of the fraud, and filed a refund request to Article Ranks. Yet, Article Ranks declined my request and said we have a "No Refund Policy" I contacted my former business partner and learned he never even used the service, and cancelled the subscription the same day.

It amazes me Article Ranks is insisting on keeping the $39 despite the fraud charge, and the fact the service was not even used. I suggest anyone considering doing business with these guys STAY AWAY! They have no morals.

Utter lies

Anyone who knows us know we introduced a No refund policy years ago due to multiple issues we were experiencing

As mentioned on our site

Can I Get a Refund?
We do not offer refunds on credits or monthly subscription purchases. All sales are final. (We would only consider a refund if there is a system fault) - If you need to test the system before purchasing then we do have a free option avaliable.

It is your duty as a customer to read information when you signup

Now you say its a fraud - If its fraud then fine PayPal will reimburse you straight away and lock your account for security measures

If you told us it was fraud from the beginning we would of also refunded you - However its highly unlikely as the first thing you told us when you opened the ticket was

"Hi, I signed up today for the #39/mo plan and I was not able to use the system at this time. So I cancelled my subscription"

The only fraud going on here must of been from your business colleague or possibly yourself for changing your story when you realized we had a no refund policy

[industrial]

Originally Posted by Musa_Aykac

Utter lies

Anyone who knows us know we introduced a No refund policy years ago due to multiple issues we were experiencing

Well I don't know you, and never used your service

As mentioned on our site

Can I Get a Refund?
We do not offer refunds on credits or monthly subscription purchases. All sales are final. (We would only consider a refund if there is a system fault) - If you need to test the system before purchasing then we do have a free option avaliable.

Again, never signed up with you. Did you even read my post?

It is your duty as a customer to read information when you signup

Now you say its a fraud - If its fraud then fine PayPal will reimburse you straight away and lock your account for security measures

Yep, requested my account locked.

If you told us it was fraud from the beginning we would of also refunded you - However its highly unlikely as the first thing you told us when you opened the ticket was

"Hi, I signed up today for the #39/mo plan and I was not able to use the system at this time. So I cancelled my subscription"

Was not me.... I told you that multiple times.

The only fraud going on here must of been from your business colleague or possibly yourself for changing your story when you realized we had a no refund policy

Again, did you even read my post? I clearly explained I learned what my former business partner did. I can't go into details on that for legal reasons. There is a lot more involved.

Look, keep the $39.99. You obviously need it very badly. Despite I never signed up or used your service, and according to my former business partner, he cancelled the subscription the same day... without any use of it.

Keep the $39... dinner is on me tonight! Enjoy

[Musa_Aykac]

Originally Posted by industrial

Again, did you even read my post? I clearly explained I learned what my former business partner did. I can't go into details on that for legal reasons. There is a lot more involved.

Look, keep the $39.99. You obviously need it very badly. Despite I never signed up or used your service, and according to my former business partner, he cancelled the subscription the same day... without any use of it.

Keep the $39... dinner is on me tonight! Enjoy

Yes you never signed up with us or never submitted a ticket (but you surprisingly know ALL the information about the account and ticket lol) - Who did the invisible ghost

It doesnt matter if you used the service or not we have a no refund policy what do you not understand about that

Besides we do not even have your $39 you did a dispute remember so paypal have them funds

No wonder your business partner left if you are this unprofessional and do not even know how to read simple terms or FAQs.. Geeez get this guy out of here

[dminorfmajor]

Originally Posted by outwest

$39/month

is it a good value? if not what would you recommend . I know BMR is good but thats out of my budget range at the present time

I can understand the extra $20 being out of your range now but while BMR is down, I'd suggest you put aside some money so when they're back up, you can join. It's worth it as far as ease of use. I absolutely hate writing but 150 words isn't hard at all plus you get the initial homepage links too.

[neil_patmore]

Not worth the money. Low quality blogs which produce little to no serp movement. Condescending support and untrustworthy price guarantees. Cumbersome interface with poor spintax support. Low submision rates and poor indexing of posts.

Do yourself a favour and stay away.

A great alternative is Authority Link Network or the new kid on the block - Free Blog Links (my favourite by far).

[Musa_Aykac]

Originally Posted by neil_patmore

Not worth the money. Low quality blogs which produce little to no serp movement. Condescending support and untrustworthy price guarantees. Cumbersome interface with poor spintax support. Low submision rates and poor indexing of posts.

Do yourself a favour and stay away.

A great alternative is Authority Link Network or the new kid on the block - Free Blog Links (my favourite by far).

FBL who only have 1.5k sites in the system... umm ok..

Low submission rates when the two you say only publish 10-15 per post

Little to no serp movement.. ok thats not what every test online that people have done has showed

Cumbersome interface.. Are you crapping me!? We have the best interface out of any network (in my opinion).. FBL is your favourite when its a complete template with no design whatsoever

Seems like you have been following us around since we introduced a new plan slating us ever since..

Worth what money? People can use it for free by adding sites..

Any good marketer would use every system at there disposal! We use every single network not just our own for our clients

This is why we rank so well as we literally use AR, AMA, SEOLV, ALN, FBL, TrafficKaboom, BS and they are only the spinning networks

On a side note spinning networks are working really well as tier 2 links these days - e.g. A few nice guest posts or non spun blogs and then linking the spun articles into them.. Working very well

P.S. On another note I checked your articles and none are spun over 300% which is where you tap into more sites as a huge % of sites have set requirements to 300%

[neil_patmore]

I'll take 10 submissions to pr 2 and above sites any day to 25 submissions on pr 0 blogs that don't get indexed. You're getting too hung up on the size of a network champ.

Eradicate the pr0 sites, start supporting nested spintax (I mean, c'mon?) and get rid of the domain limits, then you'll be starting to get somewhere close to the better networks who have appeared on the horizon recently.

It's all about results, so I'm not suprised you use other networks as well as your own.

Following you around? LOL, whatever!

[Musa_Aykac]

Originally Posted by neil_patmore

I'll take 10 submissions to pr 2 and above sites any day to 25 submissions on pr 0 blogs that don't get indexed. You're getting too hung up on the size of a network champ.

Eradicate the pr0 sites, start supporting nested spintax (I mean, c'mon?) and get rid of the domain limits, then you'll be starting to get somewhere close to the better networks who have appeared on the horizon recently.

It's all about results, so I'm not suprised you use other networks as well as your own.

Following you around? LOL, whatever!

25 PR0 sites I dont think so - Yes we do have PR0 sites in the system by the majority have PR (Why would a user add a site with no PR they earn 0 credits)

We do support nested syntax [|] for nested mate - Alternatively chuck any spun article into spinnertools.com its a great little tool

100% all about the results but some people just use one network like AR, SEOLV, ALN which is totally the wrong thing to do especially with spinning and Google getting a lot wiser.

All the new sites appearing on the horizon are spinning networks (nothing new) - I say the more the better.. But in the end we had to also think about what we are showing clients in reports etc and it doesn't matter what spinning network you are using, you show your client a post on a spun network these days and they will complain - Because spinning is taking a turn for the worse (not in terms on effectiveness) But in terms of people abusing it - I see some of the sites in ALN and with 0 moderation its a mess - Totally unreadable content, 100+ posts a day, no structures on the sites - When we first started AR 3+ years ago spinning was fresh but I do very much see spinning especially if you are doing it for clients who want reports turning into tier 2 links.

Lots of people are still linking them directly to their money sites and while this is a good thing to do now and again. Imagine doing one good guest post or one post on a PR site which has no spun content and then putting all of that link velocity from the spun networks into them power posts - So you get maybe 5 links back to your money site but really powerful ones. This was one of the reasons we created LinkAuthority and although still in beta it is working very well combined with not only AR but other networks too.

Obviously the above is all thinking ahead and how things may plan out in 2012/13 but I seriously do think this is the way it may turn out as Google continues to tweak

[patco]

I don't use BMR anymore, a lot of negative reviews about them made me stop "wasting" my time there

[Musa_Aykac]

Originally Posted by patco

I don't use BMR anymore, a lot of negative reviews about them made me stop "wasting" my time there

I think BMR are still a decent network - Grown a bit too fast user wise compared to network growth lately but I guess thats why they shut it down to new members so they can add some more sites into the system

[singaporeasiaco]

I plugged a site into the system just to test... and even though i've tried to match the categories well, there are alot of spammy articles that tend not to fall into category..
I opted for SEO and Internet Marketing articles -- and i got articles about Law firms, Car tax, Medicine. etc.

I'd suggest to use it to power your backlinks instead

[neil_patmore]

25 PR0 sites I dont think so - Yes we do have PR0 sites in the system by the majority have PR (Why would a user add a site with no PR they earn 0 credits)

I'm glad you asked. For me the problems started long before the pricing structure change. I can't remember the timeframe, but around 6 months before the price change Article Ranks implemented other changes that favoured the blog owners who wanted free content.

First came the anti-spam filters and then came the categories clamp down. You justified these changes by saying you wanted people to add quality blogs into the network, so the network would grow and benefit everyone.

Subsequently these changes slashed submission rates from 100-150 per article (when the good reviews were rife), to around 15-20 per article, effectively sticking 2 fingers up to all Article Ranks paying customers in favour of your freebie seeking blog owners.

The focus of the Article Ranks network shifted from a good SEO tool to a quality free content resource for blog owners, and this is why you have so many PR0 sites in your network.

Now, there are 2 flaws to this strategy:

1) As a paying customer of the Article Ranks network my main objective is not to give a blog owner quality content, it is to build backlinks for myself.
2) Quality blog owners do not usually rely on spun content from a blog network.

Around the same time other networks surfaced that focused on the need of the link builder and not the freebie content seeker. Buy a domain with pr, add it to the system and submit your content. Don’t worry about spam filters, categorisation or condescending emails saying you’re a naughty boy for submitting crap content. Instead give us PR and in return we’ll give you backlinks, simple.

But what about the Panda? Won’t the blog get penalised for having spun content on it? Who gives a stuff. You put your pr2+ blog in the network as an exchange for backlinks, you don’t ‘need’ your pr2+ blog to rank. Who cares if it gets pandalised, it still passes link juice until it gets deindexed or loses pr.

So what’s more attractive and what works better? Create high quality content on crap pr0 blogs, or create average quality content on quality pr2+ blogs?

For me, the latter works better every time and I don’t even have to pay for it!

And then you go and change your pricing structure and ridicule your price freeze policy, further sticking 2 fingers up to the Article Ranks paying customers.

That’s me done. I just realised yesterday that I was still subscribed to your network at 40 bucks a month and I can't remember the last time I posted an article! So have a beer on me.

[boxoun]

People who test with real numbers suggest article ranks is good even above others. I would go with that information over random folks on warrior forum.

Had to comment so others can make a better decision.

[nik0]

Originally Posted by neil_patmore

The focus of the Article Ranks network shifted from a good SEO tool to a quality free content resource for blog owners, and this is why you have so many PR0 sites in your network.

Now, there are 2 flaws to this strategy:

1) As a paying customer of the Article Ranks network my main objective is not to give a blog owner quality content, it is to build backlinks for myself.
2) Quality blog owners do not usually rely on spun content from a blog network.

You have some very strong points here indeed. I was thinking about joining ArticleRanks till I read this nonsense that the spun had to be excellent and that each new member would get a manual review for the first couple of weeks. Then I thought, why the hell would I submit perfectly spun content to a crappy network like AR while I can submit that perfect content just as well to LinkAuthority, BMR or LinkVana. When I spin on sentence level your manual reviewers won't even notice a difference between a true unique and a spun version, neither will Copyscrape detect anything. Another thing that turned me off is this strange spintax with the [|], I can't just autoreplace the spintax cause then the inner {|} gets lost as well.

When you setup a low level article network and ask money for it monthly you should honor the people who submit the content as that is what we use it for, Backlinks, and not to satisfy the people who submit their blogs.

[Musa_Aykac]

Originally Posted by neil_patmore

I'm glad you asked. For me the problems started long before the pricing structure change. I can't remember the timeframe, but around 6 months before the price change Article Ranks implemented other changes that favoured the blog owners who wanted free content.

First came the anti-spam filters and then came the categories clamp down. You justified these changes by saying you wanted people to add quality blogs into the network, so the network would grow and benefit everyone.

Subsequently these changes slashed submission rates from 100-150 per article (when the good reviews were rife), to around 15-20 per article, effectively sticking 2 fingers up to all Article Ranks paying customers in favour of your freebie seeking blog owners.

The focus of the Article Ranks network shifted from a good SEO tool to a quality free content resource for blog owners, and this is why you have so many PR0 sites in your network.

Now, there are 2 flaws to this strategy:

1) As a paying customer of the Article Ranks network my main objective is not to give a blog owner quality content, it is to build backlinks for myself.
2) Quality blog owners do not usually rely on spun content from a blog network.

Around the same time other networks surfaced that focused on the need of the link builder and not the freebie content seeker. Buy a domain with pr, add it to the system and submit your content. Don’t worry about spam filters, categorisation or condescending emails saying you’re a naughty boy for submitting crap content. Instead give us PR and in return we’ll give you backlinks, simple.

But what about the Panda? Won’t the blog get penalised for having spun content on it? Who gives a stuff. You put your pr2+ blog in the network as an exchange for backlinks, you don’t ‘need’ your pr2+ blog to rank. Who cares if it gets pandalised, it still passes link juice until it gets deindexed or loses pr.

So what’s more attractive and what works better? Create high quality content on crap pr0 blogs, or create average quality content on quality pr2+ blogs?

For me, the latter works better every time and I don’t even have to pay for it!

And then you go and change your pricing structure and ridicule your price freeze policy, further sticking 2 fingers up to the Article Ranks paying customers.

That’s me done. I just realised yesterday that I was still subscribed to your network at 40 bucks a month and I can't remember the last time I posted an article! So have a beer on me.

Neil the only thing that is bad about your comments is you just make things up on why/how/the reasons we made changes - So let me explain each one you mentioned

Regarding we support site owners more that was simply not the case at all - At the time there was people abusing the system and action had to be taken on top of this Google were making big changed - Yes we are a higher quality spun network compared to ALN etc you add your site to each one and see which one will give you better content.

This was NOT for site owners this was for Panda - We took action as we wanted to stay on top of Google's changes. Without changes to a network it starts to fail (AKA ALN I have seen it go from really effective to not so much) Now the owner is acting after the network is being hit we always try to forecast things and thats why we are one of the top 10 ranking SEO companies and rank for terms such as Search engine marketing, SEO, Internet marketing etc etc - We do know what we are doing

Now regarding the old 120 being distributed and now between 20-40 - The reason for this is we did change the algothirm so 1) Fresh submissions have better priority 2) We used to publish to over 30% of sites per category - We reduced this number so people can instead of getting 120 publishes from one spun article which would leave a footprint they can instead get the same from submitting 4-5 spun articles which leaves a much smaller footprint.

Regarding PR0 I still do not have a clue about where you have got that from we are a high PR network like always why would that have changed, users only can earn credits with PR sites it has always been like that. Forget all the user submissions we have a private network plugged into AR which we contribute to monthly and always add PR sites.

On top of this the majority of sites in AR are aged 2+ years forget PR for a moment you cant beat good old age.

Regarding the price plan we introduced a new plan didnt change anything on the old plan except a domain promotion limit

You probably won't agree because I know you are pee'd about our price change we did almost a year ago - But the network works much better then it did last year if you are regularly submitting.

If you are happy using a network that just gives you a PR link then a few months down the line loses PR and has tons of deindexing then I can't argue with that - But for us caring about the sites is more important long term.

And no I would not rather have a link on a PR2 site that gets 100+ submissions a day and is not readable and that will get de-indexed and lose its PR - Would I feel happy if I landed on a site like that.. NO

P.S I don't drink beer

Originally Posted by boxoun

People who test with real numbers suggest article ranks is good even above others. I would go with that information over random folks on warrior forum.

Had to comment so others can make a better decision.

Thanks yes I suggest everyone does there own research - We are still getting great reviews even from recent tests done by people

99% of our users are happy, you can never satisfy everyone but we always like to put our argument across and most of the info flying around of forums is inaccurate on how people think things work and function, and on forums you mainly always here the negatives and these people like to make their voice heard

[Musa_Aykac]

Originally Posted by nik0

You have some very strong points here indeed. I was thinking about joining ArticleRanks till I read this nonsense that the spun had to be excellent and that each new member would get a manual review for the first couple of weeks. Then I thought, why the hell would I submit perfectly spun content to a crappy network like AR while I can submit that perfect content just as well to LinkAuthority, BMR or LinkVana. When I spin on sentence level your manual reviewers won't even notice a difference between a true unique and a spun version, neither will Copyscrape detect anything. Another thing that turned me off is this strange spintax with the [|], I can't just autoreplace the spintax cause then the inner {|} gets lost as well.

When you setup a low level article network and ask money for it monthly you should honor the people who submit the content as that is what we use it for, Backlinks, and not to satisfy the people who submit their blogs.

Again you have been mislead by incorrect info flying around on forums

1) We do not have a manual review (the only review stage we have is for 5 days your articles only get sent to moderated sites) It doesnt need to be excellent just not auto spun garbage that other networks let slip through
2) You can chuck any spun article into spinnertools.com and get our syntax in one click
3) Low level? I think we are the highest level spun network, we do honor the people that submit the content.. Please see big reply above

[nik0]

Originally Posted by Musa_Aykac

Again you have been mislead by incorrect info flying around on forums

1) We do not have a manual review (the only review stage we have is for 5 days your articles only get sent to moderated sites) It doesnt need to be excellent just not auto spun garbage that other networks let slip through
2) You can chuck any spun article into spinnertools.com and get our syntax in one click
3) Low level? I think we are the highest level spun network, we do honor the people that submit the content.. Please see big reply above

1) I have got that info right from your site ArticleRanks.com, when an article go's to a moderated site it's getting manually reviewed by the site owners or not, what do I misunderstand about that? Manually spinning takes ages and I don't want to waste my time on that to see my articles land at PR0 and PR1 sites. Especially when it requires 300% uniqueness, TheBestSpinner only go's till 100% so I have no idea how to achieve that. If it's true that that are the new acceptance guidelines?

2) Okay

3) Personally I think ALN is the highest level spun network but it's not strange that we disagree here as you are a representative of AR.

Something else, highPRsociety is accepting all kind of crappy content, I runned a batch of 260 articles 2 months ago, and yesterday I trimmed the url's to root and checked if the domains were still indexed, using scrapebox. Not a single site have been de-indexed so I have a hard time beleiveing sites are getting deindexed cause of bad spun content. I think sites are deindexed cause people report them, and if those people that report them would see a site with well spun content they would still report them cause it's impossible to clear the footprint that the sites leave to a real person. Show me 2 sites, one real one and one from a private network and I pick out the linkfarm right away, just like any sane person immidiatly see's that it isn't a legit site.

Why is BMR out of the air? Not cause of a sudden influx of users, no cause many sites got deindexed, and they have about the highest acceptance guidelines of all networks out there.

For my seo clients I do spent the time to make a readable spun content cause I get paid for it directly but I really ain't gonna bother about readable content distribution for my own sites cause I find it a huge waste of time.

[Musa_Aykac]

Originally Posted by nik0

You have some very strong points here indeed. I was thinking about joining ArticleRanks till I read this nonsense that the spun had to be excellent and that each new member would get a manual review for the first couple of weeks. Then I thought, why the hell would I submit perfectly spun content to a crappy network like AR while I can submit that perfect content just as well to LinkAuthority, BMR or LinkVana. When I spin on sentence level your manual reviewers won't even notice a difference between a true unique and a spun version, neither will Copyscrape detect anything. Another thing that turned me off is this strange spintax with the [|], I can't just autoreplace the spintax cause then the inner {|} gets lost as well.

When you setup a low level article network and ask money for it monthly you should honor the people who submit the content as that is what we use it for, Backlinks, and not to satisfy the people who submit their blogs.

Originally Posted by nik0

1) I have got that info right from your site ArticleRanks.com, when an article go's to a moderated site it's getting manually reviewed by the site owners or not, what do I misunderstand about that? Manually spinning takes ages and I don't want to waste my time on that to see my articles land at PR0 and PR1 sites.

2) Okay

3) Personally I think ALN is the highest level spun network but it's not strange that we disagree here as you are a representative of AR.

1) Thats only on a small % of sites they are great for us it helps us weed out abusers most are auto accept

3) We are talking about highest level in terms of "quality content" - You cannot just deem a high quality network on PR - which is only update 2-4 times per year. High quality is a combination of lots of thing
1) Content
2) Site structure
3) PR
4) Site Age
5) Incoming links
etc

The thing to remember about AR as well is you are getting more niche links - People for example add a site about ipadacessoriesetcetc.com and add that to its relevant category

Totally different spinning network compared to ALN - ALN is still cool though its part of our tools we use regularly

[Musa_Aykac]

Originally Posted by nik0

Something else, highPRsociety is accepting all kind of crappy content, I runned a batch of 260 articles 2 months ago, and yesterday I trimmed the url's to root and checked if the domains were still indexed, using scrapebox. Not a single site have been de-indexed so I have a hard time beleiveing sites are getting deindexed cause of bad spun content. I think sites are deindexed cause people report them, and if those people that report them would see a site with well spun content they would still report them cause it's impossible to clear the footprint that the sites leave to a real person. Show me 2 sites, one real one and one from a private network and I pick out the linkfarm right away, just like any sane person immidiatly see's that it isn't a legit site.

For my seo clients I do spent the time to make a readable spun content cause I get paid for it directly but I really ain't gonna bother about readable content distribution for my own sites cause I find it a huge waste of time.

I have never used High PR Society so I cannot comment

But I wonder how it will be six months from now

I don't think its from people reporting them - What a lot of people are in denial about is Google are getting better at algothrimcally spotting these and are only going to get better and better

This is not like the paid links war they are facing total junk content is not very hard to analyse when you have the resource and money Google have.

Regarding BMR that is just speculation how do you know that? I am sure BMR know how many sites they have in the system and how many posts they are publishing per day and if they cannot handle it without posting 100 posts a day per site then why not close it? Until they can grab a few more hundred sites

1) Either put the network at risk by publishing too much
2) Close and expand the network

I know what I would choose

[nik0]

I would love to join AR but 2 things are stopping me right now:

1: The manual review of spun content (especially since I tend to use it as tier2 links, I can't waste time on making well readable content for tier2)
2: The 300% uniqueness factor, is this true or not?

[Musa_Aykac]

Originally Posted by nik0

I would love to join AR but 2 things are stopping me right now:

1: The manual review of spun content (especially since I tend to use it as tier2 links, I can't waste time on making well readable content for tier2)
2: The 300% uniqueness factor, is this true or not?

1) As mentioned only a small minority are manual review
2) Its not a factor we just recommend it for better publish numbers e.g.

- You can submit a non spun article but it will probably only get published once
- You can submit a 100% spun article it will get published but not as much as a 300% one as the higher you spin the more you gain access to other sites

[nik0]

Originally Posted by Musa_Aykac

I have never used High PR Society so I cannot comment

But I wonder how it will be six months from now

I don't think its from people reporting them - What a lot of people are in denial about is Google are getting better at algothrimcally spotting these and are only going to get better and better

This is not like the paid links war they are facing total junk content is not very hard to analyse when you have the resource and money Google have.

Regarding BMR that is just speculation how do you know that? I am sure BMR know how many sites they have in the system and how many posts they are publishing per day and if they cannot handle it without posting 100 posts a day per site then why not close it? Until they can grab a few more hundred sites

1) Either put the network at risk by publishing too much
2) Close and expand the network

I know what I would choose

I think people are highly overrating the abilities of Google, as long as the spelling and the grammar is correct it's impossible for Google to detect that an article is spinned or not, the computing power is just not there to process that kind of tasks.

BMR is speculation indeed but they are in the business for quite a bit of time so they know how many new clients they get each month so they should easily be able to participate on that by adding new sites before the demand gets too high. My assumptions are based on external unforeseen circumstances and deindexed sites would be a logical explanation for that.

[nik0]

Originally Posted by Musa_Aykac

1) As mentioned only a small minority are manual review
2) Its not a factor we just recommend it for better publish numbers e.g.

- You can submit a non spun article but it will probably only get published once
- You can submit a 100% spun article it will get published but not as much as a 300% one as the higher you spin the more you gain access to other sites

Yes a small minority but this small number of sites can get me banned in the first 5 days

To how many sites would a 100% spun article be submitted and to how many sites would a 300% spun article be submitted. Does your dashboard show the uniqueness % before submitting. Like I said, thebestspinner only go's up to 100%.

[Musa_Aykac]

Originally Posted by nik0

I think people are highly overrating the abilities of Google, as long as the spelling and the grammar is correct it's impossible for Google to detect that an article is spinned or not, the computing power is just not there to process that kind of tasks.

BMR is speculation indeed but they are in the business for quite a bit of time so they know how many new clients they get each month so they should easily be able to participate on that by adding new sites before the demand gets too high. My assumptions are based on external unforeseen circumstances and deindexed sites would be a logical explanation for that.

I am not talking about spun articles being detectable I am talking about garbage articles e.g

I went cake for bed tree over moon, because she he can give the number feet over floor bearings, link to insurance site

LOL

[Musa_Aykac]

Originally Posted by nik0

Yes a small minority but this small number of sites can get me banned in the first 5 days

To how many sites would a 100% spun article be submitted and to how many sites would a 300% spun article be submitted. Does your dashboard show the uniqueness % before submitting. Like I said, thebestspinner only go's up to 100%.

Only if its utter garbage

Publish numbers depend on category choices also if you are adding it to multiple categories if it fits etc

If I sculpted an article to fit into 3 top level categories then for

100% - Expect 15-30
300% - 20-50

These are estimations could be slightly more or a little less

[nik0]

Originally Posted by Musa_Aykac

I am not talking about spun articles being detectable I am talking about garbage articles e.g

I went cake for bed tree over moon, because she he can give the number feet over floor bearings, link to insurance site

LOL

Thats what you get when you want 300% uniqueness

Anyway, this way it sounds less worse then how it reads on your website, the part that attracted me was the unlimited submission thing for $39,- for 10 domains (I assume we can change the domains once in a while right?), also in case my article is unique enough I could submit the same a few dozen times same like I do with ALN.

[Musa_Aykac]

Originally Posted by nik0

Thats what you get when you want 300% uniqueness

300% uniqueness is not hard to achieve

Each sentence spun 3-4 times then a few words spun and its there

[mdsurf]

BMR is the best no ifs ands or buts about it

[TBInternetMarketing]

Originally Posted by dp40oz

Articleranks is good but Build My Rank is leagues ahead of the others. I would pay the extra $20 for at least 1 month of BMR. If you don't make your money back within the first month you are doing something wrong.

Yea I'd second this. I use BMR and they are definitely superior.

[UMS]

Originally Posted by nik0

2: The 300% uniqueness factor, is this true or not?

Keep in mind that there are various calculations used for "uniqueness".

I have no idea what formula AR uses, but I can say that if you have an article in The Best Spinner and it reports about 70% uniqueness, that will translation to around 300% uniqueness in AR.

[HKSEO Extropy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by nik0
Something else, highPRsociety is accepting all kind of crappy content, I runned a batch of 260 articles 2 months ago, and yesterday I trimmed the url's to root and checked if the domains were still indexed, using scrapebox. Not a single site have been de-indexed so I have a hard time beleiveing sites are getting deindexed cause of bad spun content.

Originally Posted by Musa_Aykac

I have never used High PR Society so I cannot comment

But I wonder how it will be six months from now

The sites have already been online six months. You mean six more months?

That said, sites getting deindexed is a normal part of the process. When you deal with thousands of sites, some will drop. Any given week we may see 2-3% of the sites drop PR and another 2-3% gain PR.

In my opinion the key is to have no footprint that a computer can detect. NONE of the network sites would survive a manual review for any of the network vendors including high quality content sites like BMR. (Which closed to new users last week)

Also, I subscribe to the theory from Callen and Dori regarding duplicate content. Press Releases get sent out to thousands of places and they show up just fine in the SERPs and don't incur penalties. So I think spun content can be just fine as well.

[mrehan]

I am thinking of joining Link Authority, the other network from Article Ranks.
I read their FAQ page but still am not clear about certain things. Would appreciate if anyone can provide the explanations.

1. What is the minimum number of words per post.
2. It says less than 300 words you get one link. More than 300 words 3 links.
So if the post is 301 words, do you get 3 links?
3. If I purchase quota, and the post/s is/are rejected for duplicate content, am I able to use the quota the next day for the rejected post/s.

[Musa_Aykac]

Originally Posted by mrehan

I am thinking of joining Link Authority, the other network from Article Ranks.
I read their FAQ page but still am not clear about certain things. Would appreciate if anyone can provide the explanations.

1. What is the minimum number of words per post.
2. It says less than 300 words you get one link. More than 300 words 3 links.
So if the post is 301 words, do you get 3 links?
3. If I purchase quota, and the post/s is/are rejected for duplicate content, am I able to use the quota the next day for the rejected post/s.

1) 150 words = 1 link 301+ words = 3 links
2) Yes please also see above
3) No quota is reset daily

[GGpaul]

So is it bad to send the anchor text straight to the "money site"? If I were to send it to my squidoo, hubpages, tumblr, then wouldn't I have to pay extra for each domain?

[Juvv2096]

Its not bad to send links direct to money sites. You just have to make sure you dont do like 500 a day. Do a couple a day and leak them out over a period of time. Long and slow is better than dumping them all out in one time. This is obviously as its just not a natural way for a website to get links in the "real world".

Article ranks is cheap too so I think you should go for it if you can afford it. Lots of work though so be prepared

[Henlus]

I've been investigating which blog network to use and I think I'll be going for AR. From all the arguements so far, i see that AR is working hard to improve their service and some people find it inconviniencing (more work). In my opinion AR is good for the price and i am not a fan of low quality, spun contents .

[rjd1265]

Originally Posted by Henlus

I've been investigating which blog network to use and I think I'll be going for AR. From all the arguements so far, i see that AR is working hard to improve their service and some people find it inconviniencing (more work). In my opinion AR is good for the price and i am not a fan of low quality, spun contents .

You must live under a rock....private blog networks just got attacked by Google and are all going out of business. BMR just shut down for good and all the others will follow.

back to the drawing board!

[outwest]

Everyone using these paid high PR backlink networks is in a bad mood today
Lucky I dont use them, (couldnt justify the price)

[Cecil Dee]

I've used AR on and off for over a year now and IMHO, I'd rate it as Good, not great, not excellent. I've used it consistently at times and saw results. However that Good rating at this stage in the game can easily creep to Excellent pretty easily with top rated blog networks being systematically wiped out.

I look at it this way, all the major blog networks have recently took a bigger than usual hit, Repeat ALL, regardless of what the owners are feeding to you. Now the last man or men standing will w/o question be stronger than just a month ago. Right, so far that is TK, AR, ALN and the likes. I believe that the AR owner can ultimately make more money with the changes made with the plans and url limitations implemented some time ago, however if that means a better network that was already good, then I'm willing to live with it. One thing that I really like about AR (and I think they should do more of) is that they post (for some time now) to web 2.0 & social sites as well. In light of recent events it would behove them and other blog networks as well to step up their efforts in this regard. Just my 2 pennies.

[mrdomains]

AR is certainly usable. I use it for free.

Create a couple of blogs, get them to PR 1 or 2. Donate them to AR for automatic posting. Gets me about 30 bucks a month to post with. You get 0.10 credits for each post they make.

Win win as I see it.