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hey man this is a really cool post for sure on adsense. The only gripe that I have is the ROI on these sites. If you're dropping $500 on each site and then potentially selling them in the future and making like $1000 profit..? I would much rather take that $500 and use it to build a list from solo ads or market ppc to a direct linking CPA offer. You could easily quadruple your ROI with this strategy. Yeah it won't be bringing in the passive income but w adsense you're at the mercy of every big G algorithm update. |
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^ I do this, because I know how to do it. I've built countless sites for clients as well as done loads of SEO work, which makes it easy for me to put all of this together. On the other hand, I haven't got a clue about solo ads. ![]() The sites normally pay for themselves over the first 3 months, after which it's all profit. Easily sell them for 14x+ monthly revenue, because they look much better than pretty much any site available for sale (in this price range). There really isn't any upkeep needed once you reach #1's for multiple keywords, because you get linked to naturally from all kinds of places (especially social). Never had any problems with this or any algo updates so far. |
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Where do you usually purchase your blog posts from?
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He has his personal star writer ![]() Why bother with Adsense when you could be making more and Faster without them? |
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Hi everyone, I am new at this, however I have found what I think is a niche based upon exact keyword research via adwords. I also have been in this niche industry for 18 years and am therefore able to write 100's of articles without blinking an eye. My questions are, If I make my site using wordpress will it be better or worse than basic html for adsense? Am I better of writing my own ebook and selling that rather than soley relying on adsense to produce income? Regards |
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Hey great post, IMO one thing you missed bnetwork is... competitor analysis! Search for your keywords, take a look at the Top 10 of your main keywords, Check: - their PR's - number of backlinks - quality of backlinks (i.e. PR of backlinks, .edu/.gov links) - Keyword/s in H1/title/domain - age of sites Its a cost/benefit analysis... i.e. how much link building effort & time will it take to get to No. 1 Vs how much can you make off the site. I've built 3 new EMD domains, now after 2 weeks they're ranking on page 1 for their main keyword (+$2 CPC, +1000 exact/local/monthly... one's $10 CPC which is sweet). But I certainly wouldn't be able to do this for high competition keywords. A lot of High CPC/High traffic keywords definately come with High competition... which I don't want to spend a year to get to No. 1... I wanna be making decent money early. Just sharing my views from my limited experience. So my questions is... what competitor analysis do you do and what level of competition would you be comfortable going after? |
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Hey BNetwork, I have a few things that I'm unsure about using your overall strategy.
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This is a very good strategy for those who are having Adsense accounts and getting serious to boost their earnings for good. But for those who are disabled by Adsense, you can still do this with CPA and affiliate marketing.
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| There are lots of providers I work with... Look around on various IM forums (not this one) and you'll find them. I don't want to give any direct recommendations since I'm already getting blamed for "having a hidden agenda", screw that. Quote:
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Honestly, as long as the first page isn't all super authority sites, I'm good. By authority I do not mean webmd, helpguide, about, amazon, etc - those are easy to overtake. Just looked at one of the keywords that I've been #1 for some time now and the PR breakdown (page 1 - ranking pages, not home page PR) is: 1. Me (PR0 - will be PR3/4 after PR update) 2. PR5 3. PR5 4. PR4 5. PR6 6. PR3 7. PR6 8. PR4 9. PR4 ... Quote:
2. I outsource this, there are lots of providers. Even Fiverr works for this kind of thing (at least for me). 3. I don't use BMR, but I don't see why not. I generally buy these blog posts from private networks that have strong PR5/6 sites with strong backlink profiles (guide price $10 to $20 per blog post). 4. Outsource this as well, though I used to do this manually myself. You can buy high quality lists for this stuff from specialised sellers. 5. Google "press release monkey". Good prices and decent results. Yup. Just make sure to target niches/keywords that aren't just "informational" (recipes come to mind) or very weird - "underbed shoe storage". | ||||
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| Yeah. I normally supply them with a URL and keyword to be anchored and they write a unique post with a link back to my website. Depending on what provider you use for this the blog post stays on the home page anywhere from 7 to 40 days or more.
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Fantastic article and very detailed too.
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Wow great guide it seems like! Looks like it took you a while to make. Thanks for posting it.
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Thanks for detailed explanation of your strategy. can you tell me which kind a press release you use? not $20 one that i agree but how much it can cost to writing+release total? -that said, do you keep in mind how many long tail keywords it can get before spending this much? b/c till i know, most ppl don't spend on press release for ranking 5K volume keyword. Regards, |
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Just sold another one of these sites for $1800. Total investment around $500 plus $1xx in fees (no flippa). Site started in October 2011, so 4 months old. Traffic - 7882 uniques from Google this month, so around 280/day. Earned $136 this month so far through Adsense, so I got just over 12x monthly for it. I take my words back though if I ever said that this is an easy way to make money. It's not easy, because you need to a) invest money and b) know what you're doing. I'm happy. |
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Me here again with another question ![]() What is the success rate you have with this model?, that is, for example, out of 10 sites you create, how many of them reach page 1 and are profitable for you? Thanks again! |
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At least so far. Though I do have a few new sites and a couple 2-3 month old sites hovering around positions 7-9. All are profitable, lowest earner this month is doing £2.92/day avg. (which is like $4.30/day).
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What a great post! I printed it out for reference (I'm building my first adsense site now under different criteria, but will use this guide for my next site). Do you offer your backlinking plan as a service? |
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Thanks for sharing! This is the most useful post I have read by far! I am a newbie absorbing everything I can but really trying to find a structure that works for me in creating niche sites. Getting into IM and SEO I always came with the 'build a long term business" frame of mind. This has helped me build upon what I want to do in the long term. Cheers |
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Really usefull tutorial. But I don`t know why you say "only .com domains". I don`t agree with that. If you want EMD .com .net and .org will get the same results |
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Sold another site today. This time got a much better deal as well. Going to take a short break from selling since I only have a few top ranking websites left. Need to build more. ![]() I think that the key points in getting a good amount of money for a site are: 1. Stable rankings for at least 3-4 months. 2. Earnings history for 2-3 months plus at least a month of stable earnings right before the sale. 3. Site design and content quality really matter. If a site looks awesome and makes money - it's going to sell for more than just a good money making site. So yeah, I got 15x monthly this time. ![]() Anyone else following this system or have any site structure suggestions? I started building 2 authority websites (health and finance niches). Structuring these slightly differently than explained in the OP - going to use categories as "mini hubs". Oh and sorry if you tried sending me a PM and didn't get a reply - apparently I need to pay to get a bigger inbox. |
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Congratulations on the sale! ![]() I am seriously planning to follow your system, have some quick questions. 1. What do you think about link velocity? that is, sending thousands of links to your new money site in less that 6 weeks may seem a little unnatural to the eyes of search engines, what do you think about it? 2. Do you use free wordpress themes on your sites? 3. Do you use a specific keyword tool other than Google's for keyword research? Thanks!! |
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Hey BNetwork, I was just wondering going over your strategy do you notice any major differences for the social bookmarking blasts? Or are you just doing it to get pages quickly indexed? |
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Keep in mind that I'm a SEO provider and I do have my own social bookmarking service - so take my advice with a grain of salt (lulz). Just to be clear: I'm not here to push my services and this thread wasn't started with that in mind. I'm not sure why social bookmarking is such a new thing here. For a pretty long time now, it has been the single most cost effective way to rank sites and make mad money. Literally. One of my older clients absolutely killed it with new EMDs and social bookmarking back in July of last year. He ranked about 80 EMDs in the top 3 within a month of building them and has since sold nearly all of them for crazy profits. Anyways. Things have changed. There are ways to "blast" social bookmarks to 1000-3000+ social websites in one go. It used to be super effective (almost felt like cheating) to rank sites this way. And cheap. The word quickly spread (not here apparently) and everyone started buying these blasts. Your typical EMD would hit #1 HOURS after a good blast. It was crazy. So many people used social bookmarking blasts that they've kind of lost effectiveness now (as with every SEO technique that goes mainstream). These days you can still push sites up from page 2 to page 1 or from n/a to page 2 with a single blast, but top 3 results are pretty rare now. We're talking good keywords here, not random **** long tails that get no traffic. My recommendation for social bookmarking at this time (I say this because the world of SEO moves fast): 1. Don't use single URL blasts on new sites that have no other backlinks. 2. Use single URL blasts on aged sites with diversified link profiles. 3. Use multiple URL blasts to deep link your inner pages. Say you have 5 inner pages that you want to build links to - spread a 1000 SB blast across those pages. 4. Use multiple URL blasts to mass index quality blog posts or web 2.0 properties. You can load up 30+ URLs with random anchors for pretty much guaranteed indexing (within hours). These big blasts are great, because: 1. Google finds them fast. Sometimes I see movement minutes after a blast. There is no need to ping these blasts - it's just a myth. 2. White hat. Sure, you get loads of links. But that's what social bookmarking sites are for, no? To bookmark your stories. 3. Huge IP diversity. Links come from all kinds of different IP's. This is important. 4. Can create massive anchor text diversity. I use anything from 2-3 anchors on aged pages to 30+ anchors when just boosting a new websites link profile (use click here, blog, post, red, read more, story, article, etc as anchors). 5. A good way to deep link your inner pages. Many people give up trying to build backlinks to their pages and just focus on the homepage. Big mistake. 6. Cheap. A blast will cost you anywhere from $20 to $40, depending on provider. A word of advice: 1. Social bookmarks come with short descriptions (a couple sentences). Make sure to spin these by hand (so they read ok) to a very high degree for maximum impact. 2. Do not submit these bookmarks to top bookmarking sites (digg, etc). Submit to those separately. 3. When blasting, don't forget to spin tags and categories. Ok so that's that. Good luck. | |
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Hi Bnetwork, I am really interested in your services, I know that you don't want this thread to turn into a promotional one, but, I really am interested. Please let me know how you can give a link on where to hire your services, if you don't mind of course ![]() Additionally, I have found some fiverr gigs offering bookmarking blasts, but, I don't know if they would work. Thanks! |
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Thanks for the PM bnetwork!, can't reply direct to you because of my low posts count |
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Thanks bnetwork, You learn something new everyday ![]() I didn't know how important social bookmarking was to your link building strategies. Could you also get in contact with me I am interested in your services Much appreciated |
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I may think about starting a sales thread in the "Warriors for Hire" section for this... This thread is here to discuss Adsense sites/flipping/structure/etc. ![]() I don't want it to be closed for self promotion. Please note that social bookmarking in only a part of the overall SEO plan. There's a lot more to it and the biggest push in the SERPs normally comes from a combination of other services - not the bookmarks. |
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Your off-page SEO strategy looks great. I think the key is diversity. Regards on-page SEO, you provided a new thought of how to organize contents, which made me have deeper understanding of wordpress and inner link architecture. Awesome! |
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. Used BN's social bookmarking blast to take a site from the 20th page to the 5th page . It's only been a couple of days so trying to see if I can get anymore movement out of it without any additional backlinking. I do have about 15 backlinks to it before the blast. The site was pretty much out of the Top 1000 for three months until it reappeared one day.
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Just sold another site... Now I'm really starting to run out of sites. ![]() I've decided not to do a sales thread in the Warriors For Hire section. The business is doing just fine, my main focus is slowly shifting to website building now. What many people seem to not be able to grasp is that most sites (on the internet) are not sold through flippa. If you build good sites and get noticed, buyers are going to come to you. Selling one good site on flippa can land you a long term buyer who will keep you busy for the next year or more. People will also contact you through your sites with offers to buy them. Also, please do not ask me to show you the sites I've sold. It won't happen. ![]() Now lets see how things work out with my authority websites. Started two last week following a silo structure I devised myself. I have to give credit to yukon. While my sites are structured differently from his, I must have read every single post he made in the last year or so looking for tips/advice on site structure. Thanks man! |
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Ok quick update. Niche/keyword selection is HUGE. I just put Adsense on another website that gets the same amount of traffic as one of the sites I sold last week (around 250 uniques/day from Google), and it's already making 6x more than the other site. It literally made over $28 overnight. Lucky? I need to figure out why. Obviously ads are more targeted, but both keywords have "high" adwords competition and a bunch of ads in Google. |
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Hiya, This is one of the best posts I have read on here so far, thank you so much for taking your time to share your knowledge! I have spent a lot of time trying to improve my adsense success and clearly not had as much sucess as you have. I do have a few questions from your post but would also point out that I have been looking to hire someone to help me get a good working adsense example set up that I can use as a guide / template for futher sites in the future. If this is a job you may be interested in, I would love to discuss further with you. Quote:
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Hi Very good tutorial on adsense. Could you please elaborate on how to structure the website with static home page? Regards AJ |
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This is a really good post for anyone who wants to start making money from adsense. I use s similar method and it works. Period. Thanks for sharing! |
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Very nice work on the thread post bnetwork, I really like how you put the post together! I've been making a little bit of money with Adsense on my two sites so far, but they weren't MFAs, they are both merchant sites I created. I've been debating on trying to create MFAs for a bit of time now. This thread, along with what I keep hearing about Adsense100KBlueprint seems to really put into perspective that good money can be made with multiple sites and Adsense on each of them. Had a question or two with your expertise: If I were to design an MFA site, but wanted to create a page for an affiliate link on a product related to the site's content, would this create backlash and possibly ban Adsense? I hear mixed things about how you can't link affiliates directly from your site that has Adsense on it, and so on unless you make a site for affiliate promotion, and then make an MFA site and link to your site that promotes affiliates if you wanted to do this correctly. I'm not sure what is correct or not, and tried to look at the TOS, but nothing really referenced on there as to that kind of setup. Any thoughts or comments? Also, not to ask too much personal info from you but, what would you say is the rough timeframe estimate in terms of days or weeks that you could expect to see results climbing up regarding the MFA's? And what would you say was the most you made on a day, and in a month with one MFA? Thanks in advance and again, thanks for a great post! |
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Really nice share. I will try your method. I like the mindset create and sell.. thanks mate |
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Thanks a lot BNetwork for your reply. Sorry, I didn't mean as an actual "MFA" type site (that's made with little content and mainly for adsense). I just meant a site that was made with an adsense keyword in mind and monetized as such. Thanks for the heads up as well on the affiliates topic. I had debated on making some websites for reviews and plugging in the Clickbank URLs (via shortener) onto the website, but then thought that Adsense would not be happy with this, so I haven't done so yet. I won't quote you on it, but your comments have helped to ease a bit of my fears. Nice work too on the $28 dollar day! That's great to make off of one website (multiply that by 10 or 15 different sites, and that's a nice little chunk to make). As far as the hosting on one IP that I've noticed you mention, is there a limit to this amount that you know of? (I have 3 sites that I run, all have Adsense on them but weren't made specifically for Adsense). I wasn't sure if there was a limit per say (I've seen others make comments that they've had 25 or more websites on the same IP using Adsense and had no issues, and others that stated they feared this and therefore don't do it). How many sites do you have roughly per IP? Thanks again for the info, very very much appreciated! |
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