How did a new site get a PR 4?!

[mechele]

Can someone explain to me how a brand new site (with less than 10 pages) with no meta gets a PR of 4, while I'm still trying to get my poor site moved up from a PR 1?

The true value of PR arguments aside...I'm really trying to understand so I can learn.

I ran the url through SEO Quake and here's what it shows...

PR:4
No meta
Age: 1/29/11
8 google backlinks (from sites with PR ranging from 1 to 3)

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

[cardine]

It is probably fake PR.

You can fake PR by having a domain 301 to a different high PR domain name. Then when you remove the 301 redirect, for a period of time Google still has the domain name having the PR of the domain name it was redirecting to.

[mechele]

I had no idea! You're good— thank you!

[Carl Brown]

It's a year old! My friend runs MANY political blogs and every one has a PR of 3 or 4 (from 0 to 3 or 4 by the next update). He does it by interlinking them and posting on political forums and article directories.

What's the URL? PR is mostly determined by the number of backlinks from higher PR sites.

In my friend's case, 30 blogs with a pr of 3 or 4 all linking to the new blog will do it.

How did you determine the actual backlinks?

[Buyseech]

Initial PR scores can vary dramaticaly, but once the second PR update hits its back to normal. I have had BRAND new sites (sub-pages , not main sites!!!)-> with 0 backlinks get PR5 ... a bunch of them. But 3 months or so later they were all 0/10 or maybe 1/10 depending on the linking.

So dont trust the initial PR scores would be my advice.

Sincerely, Buyseech

[strategic seo services]

PR is determined by a site's number and, more importantly, quality of backlinks.

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by mechele

Can someone explain to me how a brand new site (with less than 10 pages) with no meta gets a PR of 4, while I'm still trying to get my poor site moved up from a PR 1?

The true value of PR arguments aside...I'm really trying to understand so I can learn.

I ran the url through SEO Quake and here's what it shows...

PR:4
No meta
Age: 1/29/11
8 google backlinks (from sites with PR ranging from 1 to 3)

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

The number of pages, nor the meta tags have anything to do with the PR of the site. And that site is about a year old, not really brand new.

You can have a site to a PR 4 in a few weeks with the right backlinks. PR is a measure of the quality of incoming backlinks. That all it is. It is not influenced by meta data or how many pages the rest of the domain has.

[Money Priest]

Originally Posted by mechele

Can someone explain to me how a brand new site (with less than 10 pages) with no meta gets a PR of 4, while I'm still trying to get my poor site moved up from a PR 1?

The true value of PR arguments aside...I'm really trying to understand so I can learn.

I ran the url through SEO Quake and here's what it shows...

PR:4
No meta
Age: 1/29/11
8 google backlinks (from sites with PR ranging from 1 to 3)

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

This is not neccasarily fake PR. The site is one year old and it's fairly likely you cannot see all the links pointing to the site. A PR 6 site pointing at a brand new site could easily make that target site a PR 4 when Google rolls out PR updates.

I've done a fair amount of testing using private blogs to manipulate rankings. Honestly, it's fairly random. I can point the same blogs at the same sites with more or less the same number of links and one might stay PR 0, one might go up to PR 1, and sometimes they will become PR 4. It's hit or miss it seems, or at least I can't personally see a pattern that would allow me to reverse engineer whatever algorithm calculates the rank.

[mechele]

Lots to think about. Thanks. Now, I've got to figure out why my site has been stalled at a PR1 for 6 months.

If anyone does SEO and thinks they could help me out, please drop me a private note. I was thinking of using someone on elance, but would rather go with a known resource.

[oldvintageguy]

Was it a previously owned domain?

[semaximizer]

Like Money Preist said, most probably there is a high PR site linking to it.

[mechele]

They only had 8 google backlinks (from sites with PR ranging from 1 to 3) according to SEO Quake.

Tho...maybe it's not comprehensive.

In Google Webmaster I show 85 sites linking to my site, but SEO Quake shows 0

[Edwineddy]

good quality visitors and good quality Backlinks can give you Good PR. :P :P :P

[pbbiet]

Originally Posted by mechele

Can someone explain to me how a brand new site (with less than 10 pages) with no meta gets a PR of 4, while I'm still trying to get my poor site moved up from a PR 1

Thanks!

You cant claim PR on the basis of pages, neither meta tags have any kind of effects on PR. It all depend on quality of backlinks you get. You cant say that site have only 8 backlinks as sequake shown so, because they are the cached links by google the site may be having much more links. There is still no tool in market to check actual number of backlinks only way is google webmaster tool. Also PR is changed in 3 months not daily so may be you are having enough links to get good PR but still need a PR update from Google.

Good luck

[Michael Curran Smith]

It's not hard to get to PR 4 in under a year, if you know what you're doing.

[CharlesFords]

PR is very much important to a site..

[bobcarlsjr]

i got pr4 within 3 months.... brand new domain name too. a pr6 page backlink my article (i put up only original/quality content) and poof.... pr4.. less than 5 backlinks on my site....

[Jeannie Crabtree]

Try running your site and the other site through Open Site Explorer. The free part may give you more information or another way to look at it, as they measure by page authority rather than page rank.

[Venus Brown]

Firstly I would like to suggest that you can't rely the results generated from seo quake only.If you want to gather the accurate amount of links(which could be reason for its pagerank), then you should type "links:sitename.com" in Google and analyze the backlinks.

[freeson]

May be it is fake pagerank and it is directed from other old high pr blog.

[aireland]

I agree with the few warriors above, could be a fake pr

[albert666]

Hello, PR 4/10 after a few weeks should be OK - for example I created the website ictmanazer.cz in october 2011 and in november 2011 I recieved real PR 4/10 from Google. And it is no fake PR, but I have backlinks from homepages of some big websites :-)

[bobcarlsjr]

Originally Posted by albert666

Hello, PR 4/10 after a few weeks should be OK - for example I created the website ictmanazer.cz in october 2011 and in november 2011 I recieved real PR 4/10 from Google. And it is no fake PR, but I have backlinks from homepages of some big websites :-)

exactly

[vlada111]

Maybe you have great content and some authority sites liked you on their homepage? Quality of links matters

[vasuseo]

Pr will be given by quality backlinks, for new website it might be a fake pr

[guillermophilips12]

Your PR will be high with the relevant linking. So keep doing it and you will get result soon.
backlinksindexer will be good for this.

[bbrmms32]

May be where you designed your website they gave you PR4 link

[chensmith62]

Originally Posted by strategic seo services

PR is determined by a site's number and, more importantly, quality of backlinks.

Yeah well said.

[addyj672]

PR of any website depends upon the quality of backlinks, If that website have only 8 backlinks then surly there the high quality backlinks and google search engine give good weight against them. Similarly maybe the website have more then 8 numbers of backlinks becuase PR only depends upon the numbers of backlinks...

[guillermophilips12]

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