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Many times I have seen discussions between different people about what is important and how to do things in internet marketing and SEO. And there always is some struggle. I’ve decided to give you my point of view on things that are important when you are starting your path to success. It is NEVER a straight path, but if you avoid few mistakes that others did before you, it might take you less time to achieve your goals. I’m not telling that I have all the answers, but I hope that well known experts in building niche websites business like Trent Dyrsmid and Spencer Haws would agree with me. I also would like to know what is your point of view, so feel free to leave a comment ![]() Chasing highest CPC value If you are starting with AdSense websites (MFA) you are probably thinking: “I will find most profitable keywords and build sites for those keywords”. I will save you trouble, here is a list of keywords with highest CPC: Insurance – CPC: 54,91 USD Loans – CPC: 44,28 USD Mortgage – CPC: 47,12 USD It looks really nice, isn’t it? First of all there is a lot of competition for the most popular keyword phrases. Secondly, this values show only how much advertises are willing to pay Google for clicks on the 1st page of SERP and it doesn’t mean that you will get this kind of money when someone clicks on ad on your website. You will get just a fraction of this high paying CPCs. Here is why: if you have AdSense on your website you are in Google Delivery Network which is a little bit different than Google SERP. Advertisers are paying much less for showing their ads in Delivery Network. Ad competition vs. seo competition If you are using for example Google Keyword Tool you might be confused with “competition” column. Many times people are confusing it with SEO competition and it makes a problem. When you start choosing keywords with lowest competition in Google AdWords you will hurt yourself. Here is why: this column is representing the competition between advertisers for your keywords. The higher advertiser competition, the better your AdSense ads will perform. If you are building a website for AdSense you must be interested in finding keyword with highest advertiser competition because this means that ads on your website will be relevant to you content, which leads to more clicks and more money for you. If you choose keywords with lowest ad competition you will end up with random ads that are not relevant to your content and do not convert into clicks. BROAD, PHRASE and EXACT match Always choose [EXACT] match type. Other two will just confuse you. [EXACT] shows you search volume for exactly your keyword phrase with exact order and without any other words in it. For example if your keyword is “dog training”: [EXACT] match will show you number of searches done exactly the same way “PHRASE” match will show you also searches like “best dog training”, “dog training in NY” BROAD match will show you also searches like “dog hunters training” and many other completely unrelated to your keyword. PageRank Domain PageRank or website PageRank There is no such thing as “domain PageRank”. PageRank is always assigned to a specific webPAGE. And if someone is telling you that he has “website with PageRank 4” it is not true. What he is actually telling you is that homepage of his website has PageRank 4, it does not say anything about PageRank on other pages of his website. Sometimes you might even get webpages with higher PageRank than its domain’s homepage. If you want to know what is an “average” popularity of all webpages on a single domain you must go for metric like “domain mozRank”. “Toolbar PageRank” vs. “real PageRank” There are 2 types of PageRank "Toolbar PageRank" with range from 1 to 10. All SEO tools in the world are showing you this kind of PageRank. Every time you see a webpage with PR4, PR3 or PR7 you see this PageRank. It is updated randomly, sometimes once per month and sometimes updates can take much longer. It is not used in ranking algorithms. "The Real PageRank" from 0 to 1 - internal, and never revealed to the world. This PageRank is used by Google in their ranking algorithms. This one is updated even many times per day. There are some consequences: - even if webpage has high toolbar PR it doesn’t mean that it really has any PageRank (because of delayed updates). This is especially dangerous when you want to buy website. If you are basing your decision only on PR value and don’t know how PageRank really works you might end up with useless website without any real value. - if you want to buy a website always check multiple metrics: check backlink profile, check backlink diversity (if backlinks are from the same IP it’s not good), compare different metrics for example compare PageRank with mozRank, if the difference is to big (more than 1,5) it might be sign of something bad. Backlinks from high PageRank websites vs. backlinks from high PageRank webpages Many times you can see offers for high PR backlinks. For example “PR7 backlinks”. You must be very careful what you are really buying. Always check what kind of backlink it really is. You can get two types of backlinks: 1. Backlink from webpage with PR 7 2. Backlink from some insignificant webpage on a domain with PR7 on its homepage. This is very important distinction. In type 1 you are getting really what you are paying for with real value. The second type brings you absolutely no value in comparison to type 1. Strength of competition in SERP This is very controversial topic. There are two types of people:
Let me give you an example: if you want to win a marathon do you consider all of the participants as your competitors or just the top few who might be better than you? Why would you be worried about person who is on the 1000th place? Same with SEO competition. The only thing that matters is to rank on the first page of SERP and preferably on the first place. Searching the wrong Google It happens for example if you are from Germany and you are trying to build website for US. Depending on your location and other parameters you will see different SERP. Even if you would go to Google search page dedicated to specific country you still might see results that are personalized to you, because Google recognizes when you are logged in and can use your search history. You have few solutions to avoid this problem: 1. Go to Google Adpreview – comes very handy when you are building AdSense websites and need to check advertisers competition for your keywords 2. Use “pws=0” at the end of the URL of your search – this will eliminate personalization of search results 3. Use Chrome extension called mozBar. One of the features of this tool is the ability to pre-configure SERP, which allows you to choose from what kind of results do you want to see in SERP. EMD – Exact Match Domains Many people are focusing only on getting EMDs for their keyword forgetting that this is only one of many factors determining your rankings. What would you do with keyword with good CPC, good search volume, and low competition in SERP but without EMD available? Many would have abandoned this opportunity. It’s like refusing to go on a date with Miss America just because she has blue eyes and someone told you that this is a bad sign. There are some solutions for having almost perfect domain name if EMD is taken for top TLDs (com, ort, net). You can have keyword in domain by: - going for partial EMD by adding letter/word at the beginning or at the end of it, e.g. if your keyword is “dog training” you might consider domain “dogtrainighq.com” or “bestdogtraining.com - use other ccTLDs, I’m not using this method but I know that some people are successful using it. Check for EMD in .co, .cc, or other different extensions. There is high probability that full EMD is still available. Kris |
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| Lovin Life War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: USA and Asia
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| Highest CPC? just go to Google contextual tool . those CPC values are FOR ADSENSE problem solved Your EMD advice? I completely disagree If you can find a REAL EMD, sure go for it EMDx or EMD1.com to me is a joke. Are you that incapable of anchor text relevant backlinking campaigns? Backlinks and onpage SEO are the main way pages are ranked (google ranks pages not sites or domains). You guys obsessed with EMDs use them as a crutch IMO, to compensate for lack of SEO skills My beach resort site that our family owns the resort, I just ranked #2 for a 10,000 exact local search term, guess what? Its not in my domain name, not even a variation of it is in my domain name. It did take me a year to do this , yes, to age the site and age the backlinks but I only have about 50 backlinks to the site. Did you hear me that my kw in NOT in my domain? How is it possible that I ranked #2 then? BACKLINKS BACKLINK BACKLINKS ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() its in my anchor text of my backlinks and its onpage SEO factors are good THATS the way most of us rank sites NOT BY EMD Oh By the way I DO HAVE AN EMD.NET for this kw phrase. Its ranked #20 ![]() |
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First of all I'm on your side with SEO and importance of backlinks and on-page seo. Secondly my advice is for people obsessed with getting EMDs for everthing. As I wrote: if you go only for EMD you might lose some great opportunities. | ||
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| Lovin Life War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: USA and Asia
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partial EMDs whoever said those are beneficial i do see them a lot but if people go to the trouble to TRY to get an EMD you know they might backlink the heck out of that phrase, so THAT is probably the reason that site or page is ranking for the term, not the partial EMD | |
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^ yeah just use domains that make sense. Adding "x" or "1" to a domain name is mehhh.
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1. If you have keyword phrase in domain name your keyword is bolded in SERP. We might be debating about value of keyword in domain but from psychological point of view you age getting more attention from visitor doing search. This might increase your CTR from organic SERP. 2. If you have the possibility of getting nice partial EMD for short phrase you are also getting additional value when you want to sell your website. There is whole market for domains and having nice semi-generic domain is also good. 3. I'm against getting to long EMDs or partial EMDs. If you have long keyword phrase it is not good to put this into domain name, because it might acutally hurt your rankings. Google might consider putting to many keywrods as spam and lower your rankings. 4. I wouldn't be recommending to long domain names because it is harder to expand into authority website. | |
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Partial EMD might help with selling the site but for SEO purposes i dont agree its beneficial |
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hmmm thanx for the info
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There are so many factors that tie into ranking a website successfully that this is a never ending discussion. Even though EMDs might still help to some degree, I find relevant and specific aged domains a lot better. If you can get an aged EMD then you should not waste time to get it. If you don´t use proper on page SEO on any site with the intention to rank in Google, you are missing out! Adsense is really about finding a system that works for you and working it without excuses. But yeah, there are so many mistakes that can be made.. |
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Thanks for the knowledge and experience i have learnt even more on how to avoid the various mistakes and becoming even a better online marketer.
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Good summary Kris. I agree with it all.. and thanks for the mention. Trent |
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I think it would be good to include something about long tail keywords. They are great for targeting high CPCs without having to take on established websites with huge budgets.
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I always use an EMD whenever possible. My businesses are service based businesses and clients feel comfortable clicking on domains that are exactly what they need.
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Long tail keywords are good for attacking competitive markets. But it depends what kind of website you are building. Is it for AdSense or for Amazon AFF. And also LTK are interpreted differently by different people. Some even are identifying LTK by number of words in KW, but in really this is just the matter of number of searches below a certain point. For example for someone LTK migh be keywords below 100 monthly searches, for other this threshold would be around 500. | |
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Good share. I like use high price key word.
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Great... thanks kriss..paydayloantree.com
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