Market Samurai. Changes

[outwest]

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

MS and TT are both garbage for analyzing competition. Is that better?

At least TT is free though.

The PR and anchor text of the backlinks on its own is not very useful information. A site could have 1000 PR 3+ backlinks with anchor text. In MS that might look impressive. When you take a look at them though, you might find that they all come from pages with over 500 OBL, meaning it is nothing but a spammy backlink profile.

So you just skipped over a niche that might have been a lot easier to rank for than you though.

at least you know how many backlinks have your anchor text, with MS, I suppose now you are going to say they get the anchor text wrong?
unlike TT

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by outwest

at least you know how many backlinks have your anchor text, with MS, I suppose now you are going to say they get the anchor text wrong?
unlike TT

No. I'm saying I wouldn't use either one for analyzing any kind of backlink data.

[outwest]

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

No. I'm saying I wouldn't use either one for analyzing any kind of backlink data.

What would you use?

[MikeFriedman]

Originally Posted by outwest

What would you use?

A combination of Ahrefs and SpyGlass.

[Mike Anthony]

Never liked Market Samurai. Always found it clunky and inadequate. However not sure what some people want them to do. Theres no ripoff. Google restricts access more and they have a monthly cost to access it. Expect them to go bankrupt?

[TopKat22]

This is why it is so important to never rely on only one tool or only one method of doing anything online.

Things are always changing.

[Chris Kent]

I never liked MS (and yes I did buy it) as the Adobe Air platform it ran on slowed it down to tortoise speed.

You would click a button and then spend 30 seconds waiting for the action to take place.

[rslaing]

Originally Posted by joecrupie

Wow bud, I think you should probably quit putting words in people's mouth. I'm not complaining over a petty little $97 I lost on Market Samurai.

I've been in this game over 4 years, and losing a Ben Franklin is the least of my worries (In fact, I bought the software before you even registered on Warrior Forum, and will not be getting a refund.).

My complaint is that I find it hard to believe that I can go to Google and manually check my rankings, and there is "no viable system" that can replicate this on a large scale, even with the use of private proxies.

Precisely. The gripes about MS have got nothing to do with a measly 97 dollars. It's the hype behind the changes. It is obvious, keeping up with Google isn't difficult for people that know what they are doing, MS have just seen another opportunity to make a lot of money from the gullible existing buyers. Think about it - they have seen other software/service providers charging for the service they originally included in the purchase price so have jumped on the bandwagon. Personally, I just wish they were honest - I have an aversion to anyone taking the p*ss. And all of the affilates and brown-nosers posting to the MS blog are not helping, most of the blog comments look rather contrived, to say the least. I'm not saying this is necessarily the case, but just because MS plaster BETA all over their software does not mean they are not culpable for sucking thousands of buyers in to originally buying a product that now, does not do what they originally advertised in the hype that they PROMISED in their original squeeze pages. What we are seeing from MS is a pretty feeble attempt to manipulate an existing database and squeeze another revenue stream out of them - regardless of the sickly sweet rhetoric in their apologetic tripe they have published to cover their ass.
I would look at any support from people for what MS are doing with extreme suspicion, they are probably affiliates or someone with a "vested interest". Lets face it, on the figures they have themselves published, if only a fifth of their buyers sign up for the new subs, it grosses them around 1 million dollars a year. IT STINKS. What we need to see is MS coming clean about this whole thing.

[rslaing]

Lets face it - any company that has had the sort of problems MS has had over the last 6 months with this software, and CONTINUES to sell it and take money from people even though they know it doesn't do what they claimed in their advertising, is not really a company that you should deal with. They should have shut down all purchases and come clean a lot earlier.

[cypherslock]

Here's my thing: I've been using Domain Match Pro and was getting a whole lot of "no" when looking for exact match. So, I switched over to Google's Public DNS. Not only did that solve the issue, everything including MS and all its functionality is MUCH faster. As in I can't believe I didn't do this sooner. Rank Tracker non-withstanding, if you find MS slow, try switching to Google's DNS. The difference is night and day.

[Sirr]

If anyone is knowledgable on how the working software gets its data I would be more than happy to put together a free solution that runs on Windows and Mac for the WF community.

Pop me a PM if anyone is interested in working together.

[outwest]

Originally Posted by mosthost

$38 million from selling Market Samurai? ROFL

i doubt they have that many PAID users, free trial maybe

[SEOtraveler]

guys, the problem is NOT with google, the problem is with marketing samurai, don't you realize? don't be so gullible.

link-assistant's rank tracker i'm using is working just fine. so are the other tools mentioned here. i mean, c'mon!

@outwest,
you are outright outrageous, man. calling dissatisfied customers "cry babies" is just... unethical, man. karma is a b..tch and i really hope it gets back to you.

amen

[webbabe]

I have to agree with SEOtraveler, I also believe the problem lies with Marketing Samurai,
it is said they made a strategic error in the early stages of development when designing the architecture of the software. And this now causes this problem, no relation with Google; I second that I also have other tools showing no problems at all with what MS claims to be the problem.

Nevertheless this knowledge doesn't help us getting MS working again and their switch to Bing is an emergency move imo which I am not happy with at all.
Unfortunately lost my faith and money with MS.

Any suggestions for a reliable and simular AIR app?

[richrich123]

Here is an email i have just got from Link Assisatant. i was just evaluating the MS free trial when it started crashing. i am so glad this happened today as I was about to but it this week!!!!

Hi Richard,

We're getting 100s of worried requests from users so we decided to explain this web rumor.

Rumors of a drastic Google algo change started spreading after another SEO software house officially announced their software stopped working with Google. What Market Samurai told us is, "Several days ago, Google made some significant technical changes to its services" which made it impossible to work with.

Now hundreds of ex-customers of Market Samurai and our own users write to our support: Is SEO PowerSuite working? Is it safe to buy SEO PowerSuite license now when other tools are failing to work?

The answer is YES, your software is working and will work with all search engines (Google as well, until the end of Google.) We are able to guarantee that SEO PowerSuite is the safest SEO software to invest in.

So - right, SEO PowerSuite keeps working. The thing is, what is proclaimed a Google's technical change doesn't look so and has never been confirmed by anyone outside Market Samurai team. Our team of search engines experts confirms no changes to Google algos - and the speaking evidence for that is the seamlessly working SEO Powersuite

No other reasons for Market Samurai's software failure have ever been officially named. However, more realistic reasons were suggested by their former users, assumed by many SEOs on all kind of Internet forums - and never commented on by the Samurai representatives. So the actual reasons for the fail are assumable and lie in a strategic error at the early stage of designing the software architecture. Our experts say, the estimate of fixing such error to restore an SEO tool to a fully working condition is about half a year.

Seeing that now Samurai is planning to switch to Bing instead of Google, we assume the estimate is right.

So let us once again disprove the rumor: Google made no changes and nothing happened to it at all. More to that, whenever changes to Google happen in the future, SEO PoweSuite will keep working seamlessly.

[Louie Sioco]

I just got a software update from Market Samurai today. It seems that Rank Tracker is working again. I tried updating my rankings but they've set it to limit the Top 100 results only.

Still works though. I cancelled my refund, and decided to stick around and see what happens.

Market Samurai has been updated to restore functionality to a number of services.

PageRank Analysis in the SEO Competition module remains unavailable, and Google rank data in the Rank Tracker module is now available with service limitations.

We will return to full service as soon as we are able.

[webbabe]

I wish I still had an oppertunity to get a refund, we all bought MS with Google as engine, with Bing it is useless imo. Feel robbed.

[cardine]

Originally Posted by SEOtraveler

guys, the problem is NOT with google, the problem is with marketing samurai, don't you realize? don't be so gullible.

link-assistant's rank tracker i'm using is working just fine. so are the other tools mentioned here. i mean, c'mon!

Agreed. There are no other rank tracking sites that I know of that have been having problems besides MarketSamurai. The issue is on their end, not on Google's end.

[Louie Sioco]

Originally Posted by webbabe

I wish I still had an oppertunity to get a refund, we all bought MS with Google as engine, with Bing it is useless imo. Feel robbed.

What do you mean? They gave everyone an opportunity to refund regardless how long you've purchased it. Have you tried sending them an email?

[Louie Sioco]

Originally Posted by cardine

Agreed. There are no other rank tracking sites that I know of that have been having problems besides MarketSamurai. The issue is on their end, not on Google's end.

I found that weird as well. But the customer support assured me that I don't need to pay anything from my $97, which means that the monthly thing is only optional if you want the Rank Tracker module.

[webbabe]

Originally Posted by Louie Sioco

What do you mean? They gave everyone an opportunity to refund regardless how long you've purchased it. Have you tried sending them an email?

Wasn't aware of that, really 'regardless how long ago you've purchased it'?

[Louie Sioco]

Originally Posted by webbabe

Wasn't aware of that, really 'regardless how long ago you've purchased it'?

Yeah, I read it from his comments. See for yourself:

I’m sorry that the current situation is not working out for you. We definitely offer refunds, regardless of how long ago it was purchased, and regardless of reason. Simply contact our help desk (click the “Ask Us” tab on the left-hand side of this page), and ask support for a refund providing your registration details and paypal email address.

After doing that, I’d encourage you to wait over the next few weeks to see what solution we come up with. The pricing will be extremely competitive to any of the best rank tracking solutions available, and all current customers (past or present) will be able to get access to this data at effectively a wholesale cost.

Thanks for giving our product a try.

This is from comment 33 of Eugene Ware, the CEO of Noble Samurai, here:
http://www.noblesamurai.com/blog/mar...i-nation-2875/

That's why I was wondering why a lot of people are complaining that they got robbed of their money.

[webbabe]

Thanks for the heads up!

[rslaing]

Originally Posted by richrich123

Here is an email i have just got from Link Assisatant. i was just evaluating the MS free trial when it started crashing. i am so glad this happened today as I was about to but it this week!!!!

Hi Richard,

We're getting 100s of worried requests from users so we decided to explain this web rumor.

Rumors of a drastic Google algo change started spreading after another SEO software house officially announced their software stopped working with Google. What Market Samurai told us is, "Several days ago, Google made some significant technical changes to its services" which made it impossible to work with.

Now hundreds of ex-customers of Market Samurai and our own users write to our support: Is SEO PowerSuite working? Is it safe to buy SEO PowerSuite license now when other tools are failing to work?

The answer is YES, your software is working and will work with all search engines (Google as well, until the end of Google.) We are able to guarantee that SEO PowerSuite is the safest SEO software to invest in.

So - right, SEO PowerSuite keeps working. The thing is, what is proclaimed a Google's technical change doesn't look so and has never been confirmed by anyone outside Market Samurai team. Our team of search engines experts confirms no changes to Google algos - and the speaking evidence for that is the seamlessly working SEO Powersuite

No other reasons for Market Samurai's software failure have ever been officially named. However, more realistic reasons were suggested by their former users, assumed by many SEOs on all kind of Internet forums - and never commented on by the Samurai representatives. So the actual reasons for the fail are assumable and lie in a strategic error at the early stage of designing the software architecture. Our experts say, the estimate of fixing such error to restore an SEO tool to a fully working condition is about half a year.

Seeing that now Samurai is planning to switch to Bing instead of Google, we assume the estimate is right.

So let us once again disprove the rumor: Google made no changes and nothing happened to it at all. More to that, whenever changes to Google happen in the future, SEO PoweSuite will keep working seamlessly.

So, it may be the case that all of the WHINERS might have been correct eh? OUTWEST - You've gone very quiet................ So, as we all thought, there could be more to this than the MS bootlickers have tried to justify. As we thought, it looks, on the basis of this reply from another REPUTABLE company with a similar service, nothing has changed with anything at Google, at least nothing that can't be handled. It looks like MS have made a major mistake with their product, might not be telling the full story, and are going to charge for a service that they originally promised was part of the deal. I reckon there could be a lot more crawling out of the woodwork about this, very soon. As I said originally, I don't care about 97 dollars - I just don't like being taken for a mug.

I haven't had my moneys worth because MS has never fully worked for me since I bought it 8 months ago. I may not ask for a refund either and just put it down to another expensive lesson learned about a useless WSO that doesn't live up to the hype spun by them, and their affiliates.

I've just had another look at their blog - it still only contains, in the main, a load of comments that are not balanced (that means, contrived and questionable in their origin). They must be very concerned................

[DownNout87]

I just downloaded the Link Assistant software for free..seems to be working just fine.

[mw8020]

So what would you guys recommend: Seo Power Suite or Raven Tools? Will keep MS to see what pans out but think it might be wise to explore alternatives

[Fraggler]

Originally Posted by rslaing

I haven't had my moneys worth because MS has never fully worked for me since I bought it 8 months ago. I may not ask for a refund either and just put it down to another expensive lesson learned about a useless WSO that doesn't live up to the hype spun by them, and their affiliates.

The software has worked fully so the problem may be elsewhere. They have a long history of fixing problems fast so I would like to know what problems you've had that have lasted for 8 months.

It isn't a WSO and I would take a guess that it's one of the most recommended pieces of software for affiliate marketer's and other SEOs on this forum - and many others.

I still can't believe how upset people are over a rank tracker -a tiny almost irrelevant part- not working... The emotional attachment people seem to have shows that the software if well liked and used often. Hardly useless.

Link Assistants SEO Power Suite is nothing like Market Samurai so I can't see how it's an alternative except for their Rank Tracker.

[Tessa Holmes]

Does anybody know any descent alternatives to Rank Tracker of MS? I hear a lot of people complaining but I did not find many answers with alternative. And before you offer those alternatives, please make sure they are actually working at this time. I would not be surprised if all of them are not functioning properly now (due to the Google update).

[DownNout87]

I actually really like Market Samurai...I'm using Link Assistant's software purely for the rank tracker until MS (hopefully) fully fixes their issues.

BTW, I love how one of the tags for this thread is crying...lol

[outwest]

Originally Posted by rslaing

Hi Richard,

We're getting 100s of worried requests from users so we decided to explain this web rumor.

Rumors of a drastic Google algo change started spreading after another SEO software house officially announced their software stopped working with Google. What Market Samurai told us is, "Several days ago, Google made some significant technical changes to its services" which made it impossible to work with.

Now hundreds of ex-customers of Market Samurai and our own users write to our support: Is SEO PowerSuite working? Is it safe to buy SEO PowerSuite license now when other tools are failing to work?

The answer is YES, your software is working and will work with all search engines (Google as well, until the end of Google.) We are able to guarantee that SEO PowerSuite is the safest SEO software to invest in.

So - right, SEO PowerSuite keeps working. The thing is, what is proclaimed a Google's technical change doesn't look so and has never been confirmed by anyone outside Market Samurai team. Our team of search engines experts confirms no changes to Google algos - and the speaking evidence for that is the seamlessly working SEO Powersuite

No other reasons for Market Samurai's software failure have ever been officially named. However, more realistic reasons were suggested by their former users, assumed by many SEOs on all kind of Internet forums - and never commented on by the Samurai representatives. So the actual reasons for the fail are assumable and lie in a strategic error at the early stage of designing the software architecture. Our experts say, the estimate of fixing such error to restore an SEO tool to a fully working condition is about half a year.

Seeing that now Samurai is planning to switch to Bing instead of Google, we assume the estimate is right.

So let us once again disprove the rumor: Google made no changes and nothing happened to it at all. More to that, whenever changes to Google happen in the future, SEO PoweSuite will keep working seamlessly.

So, it may be the case that all of the WHINERS might have been correct eh? OUTWEST - You've gone very quiet................ So, as we all thought, there could be more to this than the MS bootlickers have tried to justify. As we thought, it looks, on the basis of this reply from another REPUTABLE company with a similar service, nothing has changed with anything at Google, at least nothing that can't be handled. It looks like MS have made a major mistake with their product, might not be telling the full story, and are going to charge for a service that they originally promised was part of the deal. I reckon there could be a lot more crawling out of the woodwork about this, very soon. As I said originally, I don't care about 97 dollars - I just don't like being taken for a mug.

I haven't had my moneys worth because MS has never fully worked for me since I bought it 8 months ago. I may not ask for a refund either and just put it down to another expensive lesson learned about a useless WSO that doesn't live up to the hype spun by them, and their affiliates.

I've just had another look at their blog - it still only contains, in the main, a load of comments that are not balanced (that means, contrived and questionable in their origin). They must be very concerned................

I dont have time to update and follow all the 10,000 crybabies and keep coming back to this thread

they offered a refund did they not? the n GO GET YOUR REFUND,

[Louie Sioco]

Originally Posted by mw8020

So what would you guys recommend: Seo Power Suite or Raven Tools? Will keep MS to see what pans out but think it might be wise to explore alternatives

Magic Rank Tracker + Keyword Scout

[Fraggler]

Well it looks like MS has made their Rank Tracker work like all other desktop providers. i.e. it is now performed locally. MS does have (and always had) proxy support for those who wanted to do ranking locally.

Here is what Miriam from Noble Samurai said about Bing integration:

Keyword Research:
* SEOC
* SEOTC
* SEOUC


SEO Competition:
* Index Count
* Cache Age


Rank Tracker:
* Ranking data for Bing


The intended changes to the data sources for Keyword Research and SEO Competition have already been made. All traffic and Adwords data is unchanged and is still using Google data.

She makes a good point that these metrics are to show what's out on the web and while they will be slightly different to Google it doesn't change their validity.

[cypherslock]

Meaning Google isn't the only game out there. If they were, there'd not be ANY other search engines. Personally I think Google forgot the "don't be evil" bit quite a while ago. There is a new blog post that should answer everyone's questions.

[bmcgoff]

Originally Posted by Nero Arcnumé

I can understand people getting frustrated. What I don't understand though, is how their frustration can affect you? Especially in such a way that you need to create a thread about it. Surely there are better ways to spend your time.

Yeah...outwest, you have way too much time on your hands. It's like your mission to stop people from complaining about MS.

[outwest]

Originally Posted by Scheelke

The most important module in market Samurai is the SEO Competition module.
it is great, and it is working.

The PR of sites seems to be working now
the PR checker for each site? has a strange change on the backlink checking module, I am still playing with it to see how it works,

the SEO checker is all I ever use anyways

[mw8020]

Originally Posted by Scheelke

The most important module in market Samurai is the SEO Competition module.
it is great, and it is working.

That module alone is worth the price in my humble opinion.

[Lanx]

i skimmed the MS blog updates, isn't the only real thing affected the rank checker? which is a shame, i used it lots.

[Tessa Holmes]

Things are moving fast in digital age. You need to learn to adjust, if you want to do business in Internet age. Market Samurai is doing pretty good job in catching up with all updates that are coming. I think they should start charging some small monthly fee for their service to make sure that they have enough resources to make all necessary updates.

[bmcgoff]

Originally Posted by Fraggler

The software has worked fully so the problem may be elsewhere. They have a long history of fixing problems fast so I would like to know what problems you've had that have lasted for 8 months.

It isn't a WSO and I would take a guess that it's one of the most recommended pieces of software for affiliate marketer's and other SEOs on this forum - and many others.

I still can't believe how upset people are over a rank tracker -a tiny almost irrelevant part- not working... The emotional attachment people seem to have shows that the software if well liked and used often. Hardly useless.

Link Assistants SEO Power Suite is nothing like Market Samurai so I can't see how it's an alternative except for their Rank Tracker.

Agreed EXCEPT that Rank Tracker isn't irrelevant. For me, it's the only module I use every day. If I'm not in research phase, I don't need the other stuff, but I'm always monitoring SERP position.

[aquarious44]

After reading through the MS blog, it appears that they are trying hard to fix whatever problems the software has. Offering a refund with no questions, no matter when MS was purchased, is unheard of from the majority of product vendors. Give them a chance to redeem themselves.
Mel

[bl4ck-dollar]

Your a little late... problems are sorted now lol.