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Old 02-03-2012, 05:47 AM   #1
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Link Building via submitting articles to article directories is what I'm concerned about.

I'm working on a new site and my experience in field of SEO is not much. I know link-building is an important part of SEO and I'm looking forward to build links by submitting articles to article directories. But someone told me that it is not a good idea post Google Panda. Is it true.

I'm thinking of initially writing 10 good quality article of a word count of about 700-750 words and submit them to 100 article directories allowing me to put 2 backlinks to my website. So if I calculate it mathematically, I get 2 * 100 * 10 = 2000 backlinks with these 10 articles.

I believe it should be worth the effort for SEO and link building of my website, if the article i'm submitting is of acceptable quality. But what is a concern to me is that if post panda my articles submitted to 100 directories will be regarded as a duplicate content and my all my SEO efforts would fail.

Please guide me.

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Old 02-03-2012, 05:55 AM   #2
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Article marketing and back linking still works, panda slap is more about the quality and relevance of your content, stuffing keywords that type of thing. Your efforts WILL pay off no doubt.

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Hello Friends.

Link Building via submitting articles to article directories is what I'm concerned about...

I believe it should be worth the effort for SEO and link building of my website, if the article i'm submitting is of acceptable quality. But what is a concern to me is that if post panda my articles submitted to 100 directories will be regarded as a duplicate content and my all my SEO efforts would fail.

Please guide me.
I think you have missed a number of very enlightening threads on this very subject...

Try this for starters:

How do Article Directories work?

There are many more similar threads, just do a search.

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The panda update was about more than just quality content, it was about quality websites also. Many of those article directories you are thinking of submitting to got hit hard because they are nothing more than content farms (Matt Cutts own words).

Those article directories that are loaded down with ads, adsense, and massive links all suffered in the SERPS. Ezine articles lost over 1 million keywords in Google because the site does not offer the quality Google is looking for.

Article Marketing is very much alive but you need to rethink your strategy and make sure your articles are high quality. Your articles must posses proper spelling and grammar, semantically related words, have a proper reading grade level according the Flesch-Kincaid readability test.

Once you have high quality articles then you need to submit to your own site / blog first and then syndicate your articles to websites that are built according to what Google wants. These sites must have proper seo and must have very little ads to 0 ads.

If you follow the above then you will see results but just slapping those content farms with articles hoping for backlinks, you are going to be hugely disappointed. Recently Google has implemented what is called the Google page layout algorithm which will start to devalue and even de-index sites that are built with too many ads and very little content.
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Your articles submitted to 100 directories will not be considered duplicate content, just syndicated.

You should not be looking for backlinks from article directories you should be looking for syndication to authority sites and to get that they need to be good quality and informative.

You should get your articles indexed on your site first, then submit to such as ezinearticles and then articlesbase once they have been accepted on EZA. More directories may help, may not help - directories in the same niche can. There are whole threads about syndication and also guest blogging if you do a search.

Add more info and turn them into PDFs and submit to document sharing sites like Scribd. You can turn them into videos etc. but whatever you do your site first.

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Yes, but you're a few years out of date.

Trying to use article directories for their own backlinks was almost dead even well before the Panda updates of 2011.

It was never what article directories were there for, anyway.

That isn't "article marketing". It was just "article directory marketing", and yes, it's pretty much dead now.

How do Article Directories work?

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I'm thinking of initially writing 10 good quality article of a word count of about 700-750 words and submit them to 100 article directories allowing me to put 2 backlinks to my website. So if I calculate it mathematically, I get 2 * 100 * 10 = 2000 backlinks with these 10 articles.

I believe it should be worth the effort for SEO
All I can do is say that I don't believe that at all and advise you to read the thread linked to above carefully.

What you propose to do is more or less what all the hundreds of people have done who have started off the hundreds of threads here with titles like "Is Article Marketing Dead?".

Article marketing isn't dead. But trying to use article directories for their own backlinks is totally missing the point.

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But what is a concern to me is that if post panda my articles submitted to 100 directories will be regarded as a duplicate content and my all my SEO efforts would fail.
It's nothing to do with "duplicate content" at all. Your SEO endeavours would fail, not because of anything to do with "duplicate content" but because you'd be trying to use article directories for a totally different (and misguided) purpose from what they exist for.

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Article Marketing still works quite well..... It worked in past... works now and going to last in future.... The point is that there is no other substitute to the articles... info graphics etc still are not an alternate just like tweets,feeds, posts, news etc to the articles....
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Forgive me for asking but

Huh ????


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Article Marketing still works quite well..... It worked in past... works now and going to last in future.... The point is that there is no other substitute to the articles... info graphics etc still are not an alternate just like tweets,feeds, posts, news etc to the articles....
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It is not the end. Main thing is high ranked quality dofollow back links with unique content to your website. If it is too better for your website to rank up and soon in search engines.

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Article marketing for backlinks doesn't work anywhere near as well as it did a couple of years ago.

Most of the directories that you can mass submit to are full of spun content and therefore the backlink value from these sites is very low.

The best strategy is to target the top ten highest quality directories with good quality content for both backlinking and traffic purposes.
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:06 AM   #11
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The Panda update was really a setback for many websites but lets get over it. If you submit quality content it is never useless you definitely will get backlinks, google has not become that much cruel

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Forgive me for asking but

Huh ????
i Know that is missed to mention my perspective.... My context was contents ..... Search engines need something to feed on and article directories are a sumptuous treat in this regard (and links i them) .... Thanks for pointing it out...
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Hello Friends.

Link Building via submitting articles to article directories is what I'm concerned about.

I'm working on a new site and my experience in field of SEO is not much. I know link-building is an important part of SEO and I'm looking forward to build links by submitting articles to article directories. But someone told me that it is not a good idea post Google Panda. Is it true.

I'm thinking of initially writing 10 good quality article of a word count of about 700-750 words and submit them to 100 article directories allowing me to put 2 backlinks to my website. So if I calculate it mathematically, I get 2 * 100 * 10 = 2000 backlinks with these 10 articles.

I believe it should be worth the effort for SEO and link building of my website, if the article i'm submitting is of acceptable quality. But what is a concern to me is that if post panda my articles submitted to 100 directories will be regarded as a duplicate content and my all my SEO efforts would fail.

Please guide me.
There is nothing that can prevent you from ranking if you have good unique content. Google doesnot blacklist categorywise , say if you create backlinks on article directories , google won't give any importance to you. I have been doing article marketing since long and i would say its still effective. The only thing that you should keep in mind is that you have good content.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:45 AM   #14
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Panda friendly articles start with 700 words and in my experience 1.7-2.0 is ideal for keyword density. Latent Semantic Indexing (LSI) will take care of itself if the article is targeted to one primary keyword and you are writing to the reader and not the bot. 1.7 to 2.0 is the lower end of the old scale.

I have had great results post Panda writing articles that are over 700 words and actually answer a problem. You answer one tiny problem with that article, then drive the reader to your site that gives them answers to more problems! You can't go wrong!

Oh, and make sure when you add your article to your site first, that you take the time to do on-page SEO. You need to place the keyword in the Domain, Page Title, H1 tags and practice general LSI. This is enough to tell the reader and Google what the article is about.

You want your site to be a "Content Authority" site and this will be a good start to that!

Lastly, make sure you have your articles "Human Spun" and also have a Quality Assurance (QA) in place to verify the articles are worth posting. Otherwise, you are just wasting a lot of time (Both your team and the directories teams).
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I think we all basically agree on the same thing

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Article submission strategy still works, only there's a shift (like in everything SEO-related today) towards more genuine strategies that show a broader picture, towards quality and long-run thinking.

Article submission practices vary considerably.

As one extreme option, you can take a poorly written article and spin it to million others, then submit it all across the web and complain about Panda.

Alternatively, you can create accounts at HubPages or Squidoo to submit great unique content there and interact with other users - that's a totally different angle.

Some marketers would say that guest blogging is also an advanced form of article submissions (which is not quite true we believe).

That said, you can use basic or advanced article submission practices. Both would work for certain projects. Just choose what you believe is good in your case, evaluating the risks.

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Link Building via submitting articles to article directories is what I'm concerned about.

I'm working on a new site and my experience in field of SEO is not much. I know link-building is an important part of SEO and I'm looking forward to build links by submitting articles to article directories. But someone told me that it is not a good idea post Google Panda. Is it true.

I'm thinking of initially writing 10 good quality article of a word count of about 700-750 words and submit them to 100 article directories allowing me to put 2 backlinks to my website. So if I calculate it mathematically, I get 2 * 100 * 10 = 2000 backlinks with these 10 articles.

I believe it should be worth the effort for SEO and link building of my website, if the article i'm submitting is of acceptable quality. But what is a concern to me is that if post panda my articles submitted to 100 directories will be regarded as a duplicate content and my all my SEO efforts would fail.

Please guide me.
Submitting the same content to various article directories would not be considered duplicate content. You can spread the word that way quickly.

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Yes it might be the end of article directory ...

First sign was made when Google strikes Ezinearticles an year ago..

But nevermind we still have social links, high pagerank links and edu and gov links. So we just have to adapt a little.

I have very good results with those 3 categories only.

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I haven't had much luck in article marketing since Panda. Not sure why, but I assume it's because Google decided Article Directories shouldn't have authority anymore. Now I search for high PR authority websites. It's faster and easier to just buy links.

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Hey isimrikasharma - You still don't know, do you? But don't fret, neither does anyone else!
gearmonkey - Odd that you "...haven't had much luck in article marketing" and then offer article marketing in your sig.
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Our tests have been completely different than many on this thread. We have ranked fairly competitive sites using nothing but article directories and kept them there for some time.

NOTE: I would not recommend doing this...we just did this as a testing ground (we test EVERYTHING). It's always best to diversify your links and you should never JUST have article directory links. In our tests, article directories worked great (and still do).

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Article marketing and back linking still works, panda slap is more about the quality and relevance of your content, stuffing keywords that type of thing. Your efforts WILL pay off no doubt.
Yea agree with this.
At the end of the day, quality will always beat quantity when it comes to link building.
If you focus on that, you will never have any issues with Google.
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