Disapointed at the Samurai, Long Tail Time?

[en3r0]

I am still new at internet marketing and niche site creation. I have been using Market Samurai to do my keyword research. The PBR (Phrase-To-Broad Ratio) is rather confusing, and my lack of understanding lead me to believe that I had some killer keywords, when in fact they are not. Not a big deal, I hope these will still bring in a bit of money.

With this frustration and many tools now using Bing, I have considered buying Long Tail Pro. I am a big fan of Spencer's blog, and a big fan of his success as well!

How does LTP have PBR or something similar? Would you recommend it over MS? Details please!


Also, is LTP faster, as it looks in videos? MS can be a workflow killer having to wait so long for things.

[patrich]

Originally Posted by en3r0

I am still new at internet marketing and niche site creation. I have been using Market Samurai to do my keyword research. The PBR (Phrase-To-Broad Ratio) is rather confusing, and my lack of understanding lead me to believe that I had some killer keywords, when in fact they are not. Not a big deal, I hope these will still bring in a bit of money.

With this frustration and many tools now using Bing, I have considered buying Long Tail Pro. I am a big fan of Spencer's blog, and a big fan of his success as well!

How does LTP have PBR or something similar? Would you recommend it over MS? Details please!


Also, is LTP faster, as it looks in videos? MS can be a workflow killer having to wait so long for things.

I have been using Long Tail Pro for keyword research in place of Market Samurai since LTP was first released. LTP is a much better option in my opinion. It is about 4 or 5 times faster than MS, updated regularly and the results are always accurate.

The process of using LTP is very easy. You enter 4 or 5 keywords, set your filtering data, like minimum monthly searches, available domains, etc. and click run. It will generate all of your keywords very quickly and then remove any that do not meet your criteria automatically.

Then you look through the keywords and find one you like, click it which opens the keyword up in the competition tab where you can analyze important factors like the top 10 ranking pages, whether they are using the keyword in their titles, descriptions etc. You can see the pagerank of each page, the number of seomoz page links, their edu and gov links, site age and so forth.

So with all of the data in front of you, you can make a decision as to whether or not you want to go after the keyword. If you are interested in seeing one of the top 10 sites, to check out their page layout or something, just click the url in the competition tab and it will open your browser.

Overall, very easy to use, very fast, much faster than MS and reliable. I use it more than any other "seo program" on my hard drive and I have a lot of them lol.

[en3r0]

So does LTP some how weed out the need for PBR? I guess if you are always using exact matches, then you are in the clear?

[patrich]

Its been so long since I used MS, I honestly have no idea what PBR does. Nor do I know why someone would even be concerned with the phrase to broad ratio for a keyword. All that matters is the exact local traffic estimates, which is a rough estimation of how much traffic you are going to receive for a keyword.

Finding keywords is pretty easy, I mean there is no real reason to over complicate it with PBR and all of this other data. Look at the exact match traffic, the top 10 competition and decide whether or not the keyword is going to be good for you.

I believe Spencer has a money back guarantee for LTP. You could always try it out and get a refund if you aren't happy.

[Ralphk]

Not sure this is relevant but Spencer just released a bunch of updates to for the software.

More extensions (Netherlands, Denmark and Germany)
Also fixed up some bugs
Doesn't re-do the search after changing something (just what is necessary)

I've bought MS and LTP but have used LTP more in the past 3 weeks than MS in the past 2 years.

When building niche sites you want to rank quick and make a few bucks.
That is what it is designed for.

MS is better with competition analysis but LTP has the things you need to check out your competition.

[UMS]

I tried the trial version of MS about a year ago and even though I've used a lot of other keyword research tools, MS comes across as the most confusing tool I've used.

I'm not saying it's a bad tool as has a pretty large user base, but personally for me, I like something that presents the information in a easy and clear manner.

[JSProjects]

Google Suggestion Scraper: Free. Generates thousands of long tail keywords.

Google Traffic Estimator: Free. Gives you potential traffic stats.

LibreOffice to sort the data: Free. MUCH faster and more powerful than any keyword tool once you get the hang of it.

Traffic Travis to analyze competition: Free.

[SeoWizzard]

I'm still using MS as my main keyword tool. Just like many other people, OP confuses keyword type data: Broad, Phrase and Exact. I tried to explain the meaning of these on my blog: (it's a pretty long post with a case study)
Keyword Research Basics - The Main Keyword Types | IM Talk Blog

Also, the most important thing of keyword research is that ultimately when you target a keyword you need to do it based on their EXACT search volume.