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Where you nromally have to limit your amount of affiliate links to prevent poor rankings he has like 12 affiliate links to 12 different companies that offer the product and it always works out great. I think he build something custom him self or maybe he just does it manually as he doesn't have too many sites. | |
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The posts get indexed soon enough. It's not as if they take weeks to do so without bookmarking and pinging. | |
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Seriously, my heart goes out to the guys who have lost their sites... I was using Social Adr for bookmarking, but have just deleted all my running bookmarks. I'm not sure how much they were helping me anyway. I'd rather just not use them if it's potentially going to destroy my site. Been reading a few ports on affiliate links. Is there a guideline on how this should be done and how often? I've pointed out as per what is recommended on my SEO plugin (Yoast). I see the recommendations for setting up a new domain and copying the posts over. Does that actually work? |
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My site: 1) 10% of my content are duplicate content = product descriptions 2) 10-20 affiliate links per page (multiple versions of each product) 3) Quite long affiliate links, cloaked with wp-no external links 4) A small number - just few PR3-5 dofollows to get indexed, GSA tier 2,3,4 The same has happened to me just a day after your sites and I guess. | |
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Did you write all the articles yourself? Did you add stock content from Amazon - product descriptions. How many affiliate links? | |
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How do you check your site? How do you know your site got deindexed?
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I think it has most to do with the way that you guys are cloaking your links. There are many ways to do it but Google has already said that they see it as a malpractice but I know some people get away with it so perhaps you have to cloak in a different way or quit doing it completely (which is imo best).
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I guess it could be mastikae Check if you have uploaded any multiple duplicate files in your cpanle. |
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Your not the only one who are suffering from this thing, I have been suffered a lot from this and still not able to get my search engine rankings back, but my site PR is still maintain , It's PR2 now.
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Luckily, my sites aren't deindexed. However, I must say that I am moving on and adding my own stuff. Wolfmmiii provided a simple strategy that does work. But I think adding a little of your own flavor can help you take internet marketing/amazon affiliate to the next level. I really need to start a blog/site soon to keep you guys updated. Couple things - one of my site lost a lot of rankings but yet it still gets "ok" traffic. Another site on the other hand, is increasing a lot of traffic but not making as much sales. And then this other site (fashion), is reaching top 5 rankings but not making any traffic whatsoever. I also have three other sites that I'm working on that I'm using a different theme than the one wolf has. I completely stopped using any type of social bookmarking. My posts end up being indexed and ranked over time. I have tried backlinking with one of my sites, and they helped just a tad. Other than that, these are low competition keywords, where I just feel like it's nothing but posting constantly. |
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| Are these back-links from irrelevant websites???
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One of my Amazon sites go deindexed just before Christmas with the same vague message in webmaster tools as some of you guys have received. I was quite surprised as I didn't feel the site was doing anything that could warrant it being deindexed, so sent a reconsideration request without much thought just saying something along the lines of "There's nothing wrong with my site, reindex me please" which of course was duly rejected after a couple of days. So I went ahead and changed the site up with a new WP theme, and eradicated anything about the design/layout that could even be slightly perceived as spammy (I didn't delete any of my posts). I also added a new post that was an article about the niche without any sales intent. After making the changes I sent this reconsideration request - Quote:
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Quick additional message about affiliate link cloaking: The leaked Google document for manual reviewers stated that if a visitor clicks on a link and expects to stay on the same site but ends up on a different site then that is seen as a way to mislead people and it was indicated as cloaking. So even if you use cloaking for tracking purposes then the manual reviewers can take it very literally and flag the site and thus you get deindexed or whatever. A way to retrieve the site can be to file for reinclusion indeed. That's why I say: Just do not cloak your links to be safe. |
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Why Google doesn't deindex youtube, if you put link in description. It is misleading. | |
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It's not "only" about cloaking, it's also about the total impression that people get. Nextag and Price grabber are comparison sites btw so they offer value in that way. | |
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However they aren't so cloaking is probably not as bad as you say. | |
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I try it one more time in a very easy to understand way: A penalty for cloaking is a manual action and is only done in combination with a small/crappy internet marketer site like yours for example, or actually like 99% of the IM'ers sites so don't feel offended personally. Now if a Google employee see's Nextag or Sears, do you think they would also see it as some thin crappy site? | |
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What do you mean by spun content?
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| My articles are not spun, i took my time to write them. i think after posting into another wp site it was not doing me any good.
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I'm pretty sure you believe that Google doesn't penalize quality sites and that Google is always right. I suggest you 1st to check out websites Google penalize and then get back to me and say something like this again. In my opinion Google ban affiliate sites practically all affiliate sites if they don't like them, not because they are not quality sites, but because Google wants to be the biggest affiliate ever and there are probably even more reasons why Google doesn't like affiliate sites. | |
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| After moving content i noticed i was not ranking after posting over 20-30 reviews on the new site. i think its already known as a copied article. i need to start afresh to make things work by writing new articles.
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Maybe you have some backlinks strange from bad xx websites, becouse with only one xx backlink i have lost all my position. So be careaful with this
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But at the same time I speak with tons of clients that are dead proud of their crappy thin affiliate site so when someone says that there site is high quality cause it answers the questions of their visitors then I am like "Yeah whatever", and then when I visit their site I see some real crappy MFA type of thing. Quality is not only about content. | |
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Be careful with the way you use or put Google's codes (webmaster tool codes) into your website. You don't have to agree with me. I lost 62 websites overnight. All websites from one Google webmaster tool account. 20% of these websites were clean, ezine articles backlinks, well written articles and 100% clean and complete white hat.They were wiped out along others because they were in the same account. Someone in the past, here in warrior or so had made this comment before.I am a victim of Google de-indexing and it happened all the time in the past , at least one or two in a week, so i know what I am talking about. I know you can be de-indexed without the tool, but it makes it easy for them to build a record/history of your website before the bot finally strike, and remember, their so-called spider make mistake all the time. At times, they do manual de-indexing if you are ranking so high on a more of competitive keywords If your website is de-registered, the truth is ,start afresh. Their site submission reconsideration service does not work, all you get is an automated response with the same message even though you submit a brand new domain to them. In most cases, when your sit is de-indexed, you tend to also loose ranking in bing and yahoo.Be careful with Google webmaster tool codes I am not an SEO expert but I have been in this game for some yrs, and I have carefully been studying Google anti-affiliate attitude. Who will break Google monopoly? Bing or Yahoo , or perhaps Facebook |
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What you people don't understand is that you're using an overly sold method of effectively spamming the SERPs with crap. Wolfmmii has sold this course to god knows how many people. I highly doubt he even uses it himself anymore because it's that saturated. It's plain and simple. You people might be writing high-quality content and building natural whitehat links, but the majority of people who bought his "course" will be spinning content, copy/pasting and so forth. The majority of people leaving a footprint will be spamming the SERPs with crap. When you use an overly saturated system, it's only natural that you're all going to crumble at the same time. There may be something wrong with the theme, the plugins, who knows. What you inevitably need to learn is that, you're never going to become successful until you start developing your own unique strategies and systems. Some of my Amazon sites have retained #1 positions for over 12-months, and there not going anywhere. They bring me a consistent monthly income of 5-figures between them, and I just keep building more each month. Nobody knows my review template, nobody knows my link building efforts, nobody knows anything about what I do, and it will stay that way. I can package up my "method" and sell it for $29.99 same as wolffii, but it'll destroy my income within a few months and leave me the most hated man alive once Google target my strategy. Seriously people, develop your own working methods and don't tell a soul. |
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yes it can come back later.
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What you inevitably need to learn is that, you're never going to become successful until you start developing your own unique strategies and systems. I love this bit. The best strategy is always your own strategy. You might utilize a strategy while you're new to the game, but then you want to adjust it accordingly. This makes it unique and you won't find cookie-cutter looking sites. As soon as I created my own way of writing reviews, building links etc, my income skyrocketed. I can package up my "method" and sell it for $29.99 same as wolffii, but it'll destroy my income within a few months and leave me the most hated man alive once Google target my strategy. Exactly this. I don't know if Wolfmii has outlined his exact strategy, but I would very much doubt it. You would have to be crazy to give away your strategy and jeopardize your whole business all to make a few thousand dollars. An amount that many Amazon sites make in a month. This is just one of the many reasons why I think the majority of WSOs are crap. Hope this doesn't fall on deaf ears, but I'm almost certain that it will. | |
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The issue of copied or duplicate contents is a myth, there is nothing like that, and I am surprised people who claimed to be SEO experts use it to scare and deceive people. Perhaps to sell products. Millions of website copy contents from one another- news website is a clear example- The matrix Google use is how long people stay on your website, or what they called the bounce rate. That is why news website can rank and get high ranking. I have a 6 yrs old website that is page rank 5, all duplicate contents ,never written one articles on it , but a news website. The bottom point is that Google is anti-small-affiliate , and you might think you are on top, suddenly you will disappear from google search. Maybe google wants us to use PPC | |
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May just be the google dance, give it time.
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| You won't rank until Google indexes more than 300 posts or at least notes that you sites has more than 300 posts.
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I have seen lots of example of sites that have been penalised by Google so I know there are some really good ones. Design content and call to action as well as content on my site are ok and they all meet usability criteria suggested at Discover Which Marketing Programs Really Work. | |
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Of course if you build links you do not need that many pages on you site in order to start being perceived as an authority site. | |
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| Competitions extremely tough. It's a commercial product (I'm beating the official site & the amazon product page). Sure, I have links from my PBN.
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Are these articles long and detailed (1500+ words) as articles that write Paula from only-cookware.com? I tried the method but didn't see much increase in rankings. | |
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Edit: It isn't a simple redirect but probably some kind of cloaking. | |
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| I don't follow any "methods" or "programs". I've developed my own way of doing things. My reviews are 600-800 words with a specific format.
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Well I can vouch for the WMT Theory. I added it to a 12 year old domain last week and 3 days later site deindexed with the same message as OP I am using Coolice's Hardware clone amazon script, so its also in the electronics niche |
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