Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted?

Saidar · 04-17-2009, 01:00 AM

Hello Warriors

I'm a bit disgusted at the moment. I found a niche with no competition in my country, the keyword sports fitness. The keyword tool gave me statistics of about 300 000 a month for that keyword in my country. So I quickly created a website, and optimized it. The content isn't really usefull I just did a test to see what would happen.

Ok so I got indexed 3rd for the keyword! I was so happy, but the next day google analytics gave me stats of 2 visitors. 2 People visited my site in a day, whereas google gave me statistics of about 300 000 a month. Now I know I'm third, so lets say I get 5% of the visitors. I should at least have gotten 500 visitors a day!

What's going on? To see my search results from a foreign IP use the following link: sports fitness - Google Search

My website: http://www.spotsfitness.co.za

Any reason why something like this should happen please let me know!

Hyaku_Man · 04-17-2009, 01:40 AM

This happens a lot, I don't know why. But something in the way they collect data. Maybe they only collect data on each search term over a 30 minute period per month or something, and if it gets 5 searches in 30 minutes they assume it gets that many searches every 30 minutes (which is a risky assumption).

I don't know if that's the reason, but based on my experience a lot of keyword phrases' stats are inflated. From experience I can usually tell if they're inflated when I'm doing my kw research.

Saidar · 04-17-2009, 01:48 AM

Are you serious?

Don't believe this. I feel like walking to google's main office and blow up their building

Saidar · 04-17-2009, 01:49 AM

How can I detect when they ar inflated? Common sense? Looking at similar keywords search data?

Saidar · 04-17-2009, 01:54 AM

Google stats for that keyword: 368 000

I'm getting 2 a day?

That's not an error that's a whole different story.

Chase Beach · 04-17-2009, 01:58 AM

Hi there,

FYI, your link is mis-spelled, "spot"fitness

Keywords can be more specific, if your target is Africa, then it should be part of your keywords. Now a niche with 300,000 a month, personally is a really big niche. Maybe zone in on one area, like the endurance.

Hang in there.

Chase

Steve Crooks · 04-17-2009, 02:28 AM

The keyword tool is actually correct but unfortunately you didn't have it set to the right match type. You should have had the Google keyword tool set to exact or phrase match to get accurate results for your keyword phrase.

I have attached a screenshot of the results using exact match for the phrase "sports fitness" in South Africa. As you can see approximately 16 searches a month is the average so you are doing quite well with 2 visitors to be honest.

kenulua · 04-17-2009, 02:40 AM

agreed with Steve.

Saidar · 04-17-2009, 03:39 AM

LOL OMW that's not good. I never saw that you could select the type in the keywords tool, I'll keep that in mind in the future.

Thanks for the help now I don't feel so helpless anymore!

Saidar · 04-17-2009, 03:40 AM

I've read that the exact and phrase match is PPC statistics? Can someone explain that to me?

Steve Crooks · 04-17-2009, 03:47 AM

It all refers to google search figures at the end of the day..

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Originally Posted by Saidar

I've read that the exact and phrase match is PPC statistics? Can someone explain that to me?

robertseo · 04-17-2009, 03:58 AM

All I use it the Google keyword tool. It's awesome if you know how to use it.

Saidar · 04-17-2009, 04:51 AM

Maybe you can specify exactly how to get accurate search data for any niche? Because I'm a bit confused at the moment.

timwal · 04-17-2009, 05:09 AM

If you feel google is not delivering as expected, there are other keyword tools on the net. These includes:keyword tracker,keyword discovery,wordze,SEO book keyword tool,SEO digger,keyword spy,spyfu, nitchbot

mcpeak5632 · 04-17-2009, 05:23 AM

Yes may be you did not set it to exact match .you may did with board match..

Hyaku_Man · 04-17-2009, 06:12 AM

Hmm. Well that shows my ignorance of Google's Keyword tool. I've always used SEO Book Keyword Tool and Wordtracker.

Nice looking site though, Saidar!

04-17-2009, 01:00 AM	#1
Saidar HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 257 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted? Hello Warriors I'm a bit disgusted at the moment. I found a niche with no competition in my country, the keyword sports fitness. The keyword tool gave me statistics of about 300 000 a month for that keyword in my country. So I quickly created a website, and optimized it. The content isn't really usefull I just did a test to see what would happen. Ok so I got indexed 3rd for the keyword! I was so happy, but the next day google analytics gave me stats of 2 visitors. 2 People visited my site in a day, whereas google gave me statistics of about 300 000 a month. Now I know I'm third, so lets say I get 5% of the visitors. I should at least have gotten 500 visitors a day! What's going on? To see my search results from a foreign IP use the following link: sports fitness - Google Search My website: http://www.spotsfitness.co.za Any reason why something like this should happen please let me know!

04-17-2009, 01:40 AM	#2
Hyaku_Man Zettai Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 318 Thanks: 65 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted? This happens a lot, I don't know why. But something in the way they collect data. Maybe they only collect data on each search term over a 30 minute period per month or something, and if it gets 5 searches in 30 minutes they assume it gets that many searches every 30 minutes (which is a risky assumption). I don't know if that's the reason, but based on my experience a lot of keyword phrases' stats are inflated. From experience I can usually tell if they're inflated when I'm doing my kw research.
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04-17-2009, 01:48 AM	#3
Saidar HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 257 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted? Are you serious? Don't believe this. I feel like walking to google's main office and blow up their building

04-17-2009, 01:49 AM	#4
Saidar HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 257 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted? How can I detect when they ar inflated? Common sense? Looking at similar keywords search data?

04-17-2009, 01:54 AM	#5
Saidar HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 257 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted? Google stats for that keyword: 368 000 I'm getting 2 a day? That's not an error that's a whole different story.

04-17-2009, 01:58 AM	#6
Chase Beach Cougar Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Grand Strand - Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 74 Thanks: 109 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted? Hi there, FYI, your link is mis-spelled, "spot"fitness Keywords can be more specific, if your target is Africa, then it should be part of your keywords. Now a niche with 300,000 a month, personally is a really big niche. Maybe zone in on one area, like the endurance. Hang in there. Chase
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04-17-2009, 02:28 AM	#7
Steve Crooks Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hampshire, United Kingdom. Posts: 1,568 Thanks: 72 Thanked 377 Times in 194 Posts Social Networking	Re: Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted? The keyword tool is actually correct but unfortunately you didn't have it set to the right match type. You should have had the Google keyword tool set to exact or phrase match to get accurate results for your keyword phrase. I have attached a screenshot of the results using exact match for the phrase "sports fitness" in South Africa. As you can see approximately 16 searches a month is the average so you are doing quite well with 2 visitors to be honest. Attached Thumbnails
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kenulua Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: , , USA. Posts: 15 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted? agreed with Steve.
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04-17-2009, 03:39 AM	#9
Saidar HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 257 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted? LOL OMW that's not good. I never saw that you could select the type in the keywords tool, I'll keep that in mind in the future. Thanks for the help now I don't feel so helpless anymore!

04-17-2009, 03:40 AM	#10
Saidar HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 257 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted? I've read that the exact and phrase match is PPC statistics? Can someone explain that to me?

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robertseo Marketing Coach Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Near the Coast in SoCal Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking	Re: Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted? All I use it the Google keyword tool. It's awesome if you know how to use it.

04-17-2009, 04:51 AM	#13
Saidar HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 257 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted? Maybe you can specify exactly how to get accurate search data for any niche? Because I'm a bit confused at the moment.

04-17-2009, 05:09 AM	#14
timwal Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 46 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted? If you feel google is not delivering as expected, there are other keyword tools on the net. These includes:keyword tracker,keyword discovery,wordze,SEO book keyword tool,SEO digger,keyword spy,spyfu, nitchbot

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mcpeak5632 Warrior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted? Yes may be you did not set it to exact match .you may did with board match..
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04-17-2009, 06:12 AM	#16
Hyaku_Man Zettai Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 318 Thanks: 65 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Can Google Keyword Tool Be Trusted? Hmm. Well that shows my ignorance of Google's Keyword tool. I've always used SEO Book Keyword Tool and Wordtracker. Nice looking site though, Saidar!
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