Google hates me - Part 2

[yves]

Hi Warriors,

A wee while back, I started a thread about how google had swiped me out from the serps and was taking its royal time to put me back. Got a lot of great advice from you guys (thankyou) and I put it into action with lots of natural link building, articles, blog/forum posts, web 2.0 on, off page seo etc.

However, to date, about 3 months on, google still has no love for me and although I have not been sandboxed, my website doesn't come up with my main keywords (at least not in the first 40 pages lol). It eventually gets to you.

All I wanted to say was, I really do not understand how google works anymore as I have a few other blogs that indexed very well with the same natural link building.

But, yahoo, on the other hand, has no such qualms and has put me right at the top spot for 3 main keywords with around 50,000 competition so Iam not complaining. Maybe yahoo aint as good for traffic as google but at least they don't play mind games and appreciate hard work!

P.s msn has ranked me well too, so if any of you guys are feeling rather deflated at google's cheeky antics, there is always the other search engines that in my experience give not too bad traffic at all.

Regards

[Mickm]

Have you entered a highly competitive niche with your new site?

[yves]

Hi Mick,

No not at all, it is mediocre competition. the niche sells tho as I have made some sales from article traffic - good old article directories. I suppose I do have to look on the bright side of google for at least ranking my articles. But still annoying that they don't see my website as fit for serps. It isn't spammy, actually it is not even particularly well monitised with promotion etc, it is more, I would say, informational, so even more strange.

[Zeus66]

This isn't unusual, if the keywords you chose to target have lots of competition in Google. It can take many months, whereas it's relatively easy to score high rankings at Y and MSN for those same keywords with much less work. I see it all the time. I don't even really sweat Google much anymore. I do what I know will work for the long run and enjoy the traffic I get from the other two search engines whilst biding my time to finally catch on at G.

ON the other hand, you could take a different approach and score top rankings at G much faster. Target the less competitive keywords. You have to do well with more of them, but the net effect can be the same as the traffic you get from one high-competition keyword. Meanwhile, you'll also be ranked well at Y and MSN for the lower competition phrases. You'll just get higher rankings faster at Big G. I much prefer this strategy. I have little patience for waiting that long.

John

[Traffic-Bug]

What you can do is just delete your sitemaps and re-submit to Google again, Google thinks old is new, and re-indexes everything accordingly.

[yves]

Hi zeus,

That's great advice and heartening to hear that there is possibly a way round it. My main keywords are not really that competitive, around 24000 (weirdly it's lower competition than yahoo)but I suppose that can be enough to set you back unless you are aggressively linking.

So I'll start doing more with the lesser competition keywords.

Thanks for that

[nidjo]

Zeus is right, last year Google de-indexed some of my sites, to this day I do not why, I never, ever do any black hat stuff, just figure I doesn't pay in the long run. Anyway I decided to simply ignore it and go on with business as usual, kept my domains, kept driving links and do very good with both MSN and Yahoo. I must say that MSN traffic is a joke, even if you are no1 for very, very competitive words, but Yahoo is quite good. However MSN and Yahoo both convert better then Google traffic in my testing.

One thing I have noticed is that the big G loves big sites, so if you're having problems try adding as much unique, quality content as you can, I would try with at least 3 new articles per week.

[yves]

Originally Posted by nidjo

Zeus is right, last year Google de-indexed some of my sites, to this day I do not why, I never, ever do any black hat stuff, just figure I doesn't pay in the long run. Anyway I decided to simply ignore it and go on with business as usual, kept my domains, kept driving links and do very good with both MSN and Yahoo. I must say that MSN traffic is a joke, even if you are no1 for very, very competitive words, but Yahoo is quite good. However MSN and Yahoo both convert better then Google traffic in my testing.

One thing I have noticed is that the big G loves big sites, so if you're having problems try adding as much unique, quality content as you can, I would try with at least 3 new articles per week.

Hi nIdjo

Thanks for that. More great advice that hopefully others in this predicament will benefit from too. Lol yeah I suppose msn traffic isn't all that but more than I'm getting from google
I feel much more encouraged and I will stop searching for my site everyday

Cheers.