The Angela Experiment: aka Let's gang up on Angela thread

[pj413]

Originally Posted by emakina

im still worried because out of 120 links now to a subpage only 6 links show up.

im thinking my home page is taking the credit for the backlinks or something.

The backlinks won’t show up right away, it can take up to two months before you can see them in any backlink checker tool, and Google will never show all of your links. However, these links start working for your site long before they show up in any tool.

[emakina]

Originally Posted by pj413

The backlinks won’t show up right away, it can take up to two months before you can see them in any backlink checker tool, and Google will never show all of your links. However, these links start working for your site long before they show up in any tool.

yea its just weird though as an experiment i am linking from one domain to my home page and also the subpage. link for homepage shows up right away, however it never does for the subpage.

a question to you and angela, and anyone else that wants to answer.

should i be creating a different username for all of these sites. when google indexes all of these sites, would they not see that all of the backlinks are coming,although from different domains, from the same "username"?

[AnneE]

Originally Posted by AnneE

Okay, well I completed my experiment... now waiting for the results.

To recap, I wrote an article on GoArticles.com with LOW competition - 112K results when searching on the keywords. Now I have linked it to 30 websites from Angela's packages and a few I found on my own. They range from PR 5 to PR 9 with the vast majority being PR 7.

Last weekend when I created the first 11 links, the next day my article was #16 in the results. On Monday however, it was impossible to even find the article in Google's results unless I restricted the search to the GoArticles.com domain (then it was found).

On Friday 10 links were created in one day from my purchasing a package of backlinks. Yesterday (Saturday), my article was at least findable -- about #150 in the search results (yes one hundred fiftieth). Today I completed the links and reran the search and the article is some place around #300 in the search results. So I will say that at least some links seem to cause a temporary huge bump in my results. I now am going to back burner this project, as I have many other to-do's on my work list. And the point of doing this was to test out the 30 backlinks and low competition formula. And the proof will come if this formula puts my article on page 1 and keeps it there.

Well I queried this morning, thinking "Stop being so obsessed, you only queried last night and you weren't even in the ballpark." and my article is #5 (yes, 5, not 5th page, Page 1, Item 5)... will it last? I'll let you know... I'll probably try to contain myself and simply track it for the next 1 - 2 weeks, then write one post with those results.

P.S. -- Edited 7/2 - Three days later, I'm holding at #5. Unfortunately the product I'm promoting moved up to #1. I don't link to it directly, so I don't think I'm responsible. This does mean I'm less likely to see commissions as many will buy from that first website.

On the other hand, I have a new keyword phrase and a corresponding $30 commission product from Clickbank that I am going to try out -- call me old-fashion, but I like to use a product before I recommend it. The new keyword phrase has 310K competitive results including some ezinearticles and really lame websites coming up on page 1, so it looks like pretty low-hanging fruit to me (practically laying on the ground it's so low).

[belgirl]

Nice job Anne! I, on the other hand, have had no success yet. Sigh...

[MR2nice]

Thank you for the share. I can learn from this.

[djbory]

So Much for BACKLINK BUILDING and CONTENT… I just discovered something very disturbing at Google…

Angela’s and Paul’s BackLinks are good, no doubt about it... I have benefit from them... But I have been doing some SEO analysis on Google for the last few days now…I’ll just bring one of my discoveries to see is someone has some explanation:

I’ve been checking on a site I just found in Google 1rst page for a highly competitive

keyword: internet income

Site address: internetincome.com


The site has 2 backlinks, no bookmarks, no content whatsoever, NOTHING-NADA just a ridiculous page sitting there in Google first page…

I'm not an IM expert, but I only see that the domain is about 8 years old…That shouldn’t be enough…

Any good explanation?


DJBory

[Angela V. Edwards]

Hi DJ,

It might be because the site owner just started doing backlinks for their site. Remember, they don't show in the "backlink checker" tools for several months. When I got my doctor's site to the top of Google someone could have looked at that site's backlinks too and said "what's going on, here?" as none of the ones I had just done showed for quite some time.

People expect to see their backlinks in the checker tools almost instantly, but that doesn't happen. And yes, people can get their site to the top of Google before any of the links show.

[banker0679]

a few reasons why it ranks

1. Exact Match Domain
2. Domain age is 11yrs old
3. Site was first indexed 8yrs ago
4. Title Tag contains the keyword

3 MOST important things to Google...in the order of priority

1. Age of backlinks (older the better)
2. Age of when it was first indexed (older the better)
3. Age of domain (older the better)

[emakina]

Originally Posted by emakina

a question to you and angela, and anyone else that wants to answer.

should i be creating a different username for all of these sites. when google indexes all of these sites, would they not see that all of the backlinks are coming,although from different domains, from the same "username"?

angela, paul any input on this?

[banker0679]

they will not waste their resources on that

the only reason to change the username is just in case a competitor is following you

Originally Posted by emakina

angela, paul any input on this?

[Angela V. Edwards]

Originally Posted by banker0679

they will not waste their resources on that

the only reason to change the username is just in case a competitor is following you

Exactly. People don't really realize just HOW big the Internet is. For Google to "red flag" you because you have the same user name on various sites would be like the Fed "flagging" you and not ever letting you have a loan to buy a home again because you have had several loans in the past or because you have two different loans for two different cars and one for a boat and one for your office space and another one for a home. What would you think if the Fed simply "banned" you from ever getting a loan again?

Millions of people sign up for millions of websites every single day. Many people sign up for many sites. A lot of teens are signed up for dozens and dozens of "social" type sites. Millions of people have used software to "Social Bookmark" their stuff. That has gone on for a couple of years, I think. And yet, you don't hear as many people expressing concern about being "flagged" for that....I wonder why that is?

[daveshu]

Well,
my website is definitely no 1 in Google & it knocked a website off the top spot that's been there for ages, so I'd like to say a big thanks to Angela & I'm now going to start the same process for a munber of other sites that I have.

I'll let you all know how they perform too

[mistermickster]

Originally Posted by mistermickster

Hi Angela,

Can you tell me how I go about getting past backlink packets pease? My first packet was in April.

Any answer for this Angela?

[DinhTa]

Originally Posted by daveshu

Well,
my website is definitely no 1 in Google & it knocked a website off the top spot that's been there for ages, so I'd like to say a big thanks to Angela & I'm now going to start the same process for a munber of other sites that I have.

I'll let you all know how they perform too

Wow, sounds exciting. So I should start by downloading Angela's 30 page guide? Do I have to buy any other products?


thanks!

[indie08]

Hey Guys,

It's been awhile...been busy building backlinks....
Needless to say, the link packets work beautifully! Just ranked
a competitive keyword at number 6. It has about 400,000 without
quotes but 110,000 with quotes.

To everyone, I definitely see better results with the sites that
accept blog posts...

Also, I was wondering if anybody has used these link packets in conjunction with blogs created with automatic content like "caffeinated content" or
"firepow" by Andrew Hansen. I want to start a wordpress blog now but I don't have the time or money yet to create unique content.

By the way, I do know the duplicate content myth is just that, a myth.

Good Night Everyone!

[Pat Jackson]

Originally Posted by mistermickster

Any answer for this Angela?

Send her a PM or email her. You can buy the past packets for $5 each.

[djbory]

Originally Posted by Angela V. Edwards

Hi DJ,

It might be because the site owner just started doing backlinks for their site. Remember, they don't show in the "backlink checker" tools for several months. When I got my doctor's site to the top of Google someone could have looked at that site's backlinks too and said "what's going on, here?" as none of the ones I had just done showed for quite some time.

People expect to see their backlinks in the checker tools almost instantly, but that doesn't happen. And yes, people can get their site to the top of Google before any of the links show.

Thanks Angela... That sounds like a reasonable answer. I’ll be checking it for months to come just to see if backlinks start to show…

Djbory

[djbory]

Originally Posted by banker0679

a few reasons why it ranks

1. Exact Match Domain
2. Domain age is 11yrs old
3. Site was first indexed 8yrs ago
4. Title Tag contains the keyword

3 MOST important things to Google...in the order of priority

1. Age of backlinks (older the better)
2. Age of when it was first indexed (older the better)
3. Age of domain (older the better)

Thanks banker… Yes all those things you mention are very important, but it is news to me that because of those reasons you may be in first page of Google for a keyword like ‘Internet Marketing’ with no backlinks at all…

[djbory]

Originally Posted by DinhTa

Wow, sounds exciting. So I should start by downloading Angela's 30 page guide? Do I have to buy any other products?


thanks!

DinhTa, that 30 Backlinks package should get you started, then if you have time to spare you should get Paul’s Package as well. And you don’t need anything else for now, just start posting your backlinks… It works wonders in your sites, blogs or articles.

DJBory

[banker0679]

old domains that are exact matched are very hard to come by

Originally Posted by djbory

Thanks banker… Yes all those things you mention are very important, but it is news to me that because of those reasons you may be in first page of Google for a keyword like ‘Internet Marketing’ with no backlinks at all…

[djbory]

That's right banker, I agree!

By the way, could anybody tell me why my picture doesn't show in my posts yet? Do I need certain # of post before it start to show?

DJBory

[The Big Deal]

Originally Posted by djbory

By the way, could anybody tell me why my picture doesn't show in my posts yet? Do I need certain # of post before it start to show

Did you add the picture to you Profile or Avatar setting? Edit your profile and on the menu choose Edit Avatar then add your picture there also.

[djbory]

Originally Posted by The Big Deal

Did you add the picture to you Profile or Avatar setting? Edit your profile and on the menu choose Edit Avatar then add your picture there also.

Great 'Big Deal', Thank you very much for that...

[ehyall200]

Just make sure that when you choose your keywords that you ad the keywords in the URL link itself. Just add an "?" and then the keywords in the link itself for example after the UrL you can put with no space "?keyword=panic&heart&attack" That way you'll not only be optimizing the link, but you'll be able to track which of your keywords brought you the traffic.

Also I recommend that you have an optimized capture page for each of your keywords. This may seem like an impossible task if you have 1000's of keywords, but you can buy software packages that will do most of the work for you. If you do that you will get many hits from the organic searches as well as highly targeted visitors for cheap (likely 25 cents or less) from Adwords.

[jenniesweetie]

Originally Posted by ehyall200

Just make sure that when you choose your keywords that you ad the keywords in the URL link itself. Just add an "?" and then the keywords in the link itself for example after the UrL you can put with no space "?keyword=panic&heart&attack" That way you'll not only be optimizing the link, but you'll be able to track which of your keywords brought you the traffic.

Also I recommend that you have an optimized capture page for each of your keywords. This may seem like an impossible task if you have 1000's of keywords, but you can buy software packages that will do most of the work for you. If you do that you will get many hits from the organic searches as well as highly targeted visitors for cheap (likely 25 cents or less) from Adwords.

If you insert the keywords behind your url, wouldn't you have problems optimizing other keywords for the Same url?

You can actually look at your traffic stats or Google analytics to determine which keywords your users searched to reach your webpage.

I mean Google will treat both the urls as different urls because of the appending letters behind it. No?

You might dillute your SEO efforts by using different keywords on the same url.

[Ghostinthemachine]

Originally Posted by indie08

Hey Guys,

It's been awhile...been busy building backlinks....
Needless to say, the link packets work beautifully! Just ranked
a competitive keyword at number 6. It has about 400,000 without
quotes but 110,000 with quotes.

To everyone, I definitely see better results with the sites that
accept blog posts...

Do you blog commenting or Paul and Angela's Sites that allow for Blogs?

[Saidar]

My site rose about 15 places wen I used Angela's packages about 4 weeks ago, but then is steadily decreased to its old position again. Not good

[gavin6]

I've been using angela and pauls backlinks and been getting excellent results so what if some links are disallowed it happens in 10-15% of cases if you are outsourcing what does it matter..

One question i have is is it OK to send more than one backlink to the same domain from the same site?

i.e.. you find a site that helps and then send multiple links to your site for different keywords.

Gavin

[indie08]

Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine

Do you blog commenting or Paul and Angela's Sites that allow for Blogs?

No blog commenting. I was talking about sites that allow your own blogs...

[AndyBlackSEO]

Originally Posted by gavin6

I've been using angela and pauls backlinks and been getting excellent results so what if some links are disallowed it happens in 10-15% of cases if you are outsourcing what does it matter..

One question i have is is it OK to send more than one backlink to the same domain from the same site?

i.e.. you find a site that helps and then send multiple links to your site for different keywords.

Gavin

Hi Gavin, yes you can but don't same multiple links to the exact same url, such as the index page. For example, you can link back to the index page and link back to another page within your site.

[Matty1784]

I cannot post to Angelas Thread, so I do it here:

"Hi Angela!

Concerning the links on the "about me" pages on community sites, I was wondering if it is helpful to write at least one post. Bcz I think these sites will delete accounts for inactive users (who do not have a single post). What do you think?

Thanks Matt"

Any ideas ??

[Ghostinthemachine]

Originally Posted by indie08

No blog commenting. I was talking about sites that allow your own blogs...

I see. Like this site?

So you are also creating blogs(also having backlinks) in addition to the backlinks?

[Matty1784]

I cannot post to Angelas Thread, so I do it here:

"Hi Angela!

Concerning the links on the "about me" pages on community sites, I was wondering if it is helpful to write at least one post. Bcz I think these sites will delete accounts for inactive users (who do not have a single post). What do you think?

Thanks Matt"

Any ideas ??

[The Big Deal]

Originally Posted by Matty1784

Concerning the links on the "about me" pages on community sites...

Yes, I think you should fill out the profile as completely as possible and add as much content to it as you can. If you have time even go back once in awhile and update or add more links etc. Just filling in the required fields and adding your links is not going to look very 'real' and could get deleted from some of the sites.

[djbory]

Originally Posted by The Big Deal

Yes, I think you should fill out the profile as completely as possible and add as much content to it as you can. If you have time even go back once in awhile and update or add more links etc. Just filling in the required fields and adding your links is not going to look very 'real' and could get deleted from some of the sites.

'Great Tip' That's what I've been doing, eventhough it takes me about 5-10 more minutes to complete each profile page... I use same articles I post in ezine and go articles after a little bit of spining.

I try to brake the article into to small post. In the first post I link to my articles and in the second post I link to my website and to other profiles where I have left backlinks before.

That way Google finds my backlinks faster, the profile looks real, I add some value to the site and get my links to many places... all at once and it has worked very nice for me so far... Just a small tip...

DJBory...

[Doug D]

djbory-- The main reason that site ranks is because the keyword is in the url, period.
Banker reflected this in his list of ranking criteria. I can tell you that having the keyword in the url (not the uri), gives you an incredible advantage. It would not have the same impact if you had other words in conjunction with the keyword, but when the keyword IS your URL...this carries overwhelming weight. I can make this statement because I have looked at the top ten sites for thousands of keywords, and I look at a lot of info on those sites. I have seen time and time again...sites on the 1st page...that would never be there except for the fact that the keyword is in their URL.
Also, for those fixed on checking there link status for sites in the packets. If you really want to see if G. has indexed your profile page...just go to your profile URL for the sites, and check to see if that page has been cached by G. If the page has been cached then it is likely that G. bot saw your links on the page. You are bookmarking your profile url's, aren't you?

[djbory]

Originally Posted by Doug D

djbory-- The main reason that site ranks is because the keyword is in the url, period.
Banker reflected this in his list of ranking criteria. I can tell you that having the keyword in the url (not the uri), gives you an incredible advantage. It would not have the same impact if you had other words in conjunction with the keyword, but when the keyword IS your URL...this carries overwhelming weight. I can make this statement because I have looked at the top ten sites for thousands of keywords, and I look at a lot of info on those sites. I have seen time and time again...sites on the 1st page...that would never be there except for the fact that the keyword is in their URL.
Also, for those fixed on checking there link status for sites in the packets. If you really want to see if G. has indexed your profile page...just go to your profile URL for the sites, and check to see if that page has been cached by G. If the page has been cached then it is likely that G. bot saw your links on the page. You are bookmarking your profile url's, aren't you?

I have to admit, that’s a very well thought and a very smart answer Doug. The domain being the URL carries a lot of weigh on Google…

On the other hand, no, I have not been bookmarking my profiles and I think you’ve got a point here… I’m been missing the ball in that one… Bookmarking is just so time consuming…

Would you recommend using a software like OnlyWire or something like that to bookmark the profiles quick?

[Doug D]

djbory,
I have to admit that I am doing very well with my site...which has only been live for about 2 months. However, I have only been at this I.M. thing for 6 months. I have gained a wealth of knowledge, but there are still a couple of areas that I need to educate myself in...social marketing being one of them. That being said, I know that bookmarking demon software...would be a good investment. If you want to get started right now...then set up a delicious account, if you don't already have one. Then download the "tag" widget. After you have done that...you can simply click the "delicious tag" button in your toolbar. I would suggest that...when you finish setting up your profile on one of the sites, before leaving the site....hit the tag button...and whaalah! you have now bookmarked your profile url into a social site, and it only took you an extra couple seconds. I know that there are better more broad reaching ways of doing this...such as "bookmarking demon", but this is a simple, quick, and free way to start getting your profile url's bookmarked, hopefuly for additional exposure, and indexing by G.
I am doing an experiment right now...with my profile url's from the packets. I will say this though...in going back and pulling up my profile url's from 30 sites that I had done between 1 and 2 weeks ago, I was sad to see that approx 75% of those had not yet been cached by G. I certainly understand that they may very well get cached in the future, but If I can help things along...then shouldn't I? right? right! After all, the end game is to get links...and if the page has not been cached...then you got no linky.

[D3t0x]

On my profiles i made using angelas backlinks I used about 5 different keywords for the same url. Will this hinder my results?

[Doug D]

I use different keywords too, but I direct specific keywords to specific pages on my site.
In broad strokes...I try to optimize a page for 1 or 2 keywords (or very similar variations of those keywords), and then send the appropriate anchor text to those pages.

[Gabby12]

Originally Posted by Doug D

djbory-- If you really want to see if G. has indexed your profile page...just go to your profile URL for the sites, and check to see if that page has been cached by G. If the page has been cached then it is likely that G. bot saw your links on the page. You are bookmarking your profile url's, aren't you?

Please explain how to check if a page is cached.
Thanks, Mark

[Splinter]

Originally Posted by Doug D

I use different keywords too, but I direct specific keywords to specific pages on my site.
In broad strokes...I try to optimize a page for 1 or 2 keywords (or very similar variations of those keywords), and then send the appropriate anchor text to those pages.

Doug do you think that having many keywords in the content of each article would slow your google rankings? Or is it only the anchor text that counts as the keyword being used to build the link?

[djbory]

Originally Posted by Doug D

djbory,
I'm going back and pulling up my profile url's from 30 sites that I had done between 1 and 2 weeks ago, I was sad to see that approx 75% of those had not yet been cached by G. I certainly understand that they may very well get cached in the future, but If I can help things along...then shouldn't I? right? right! After all, the end game is to get links...and if the page has not been cached...then you got no linky.

Doug; what you mean is that 75% of your profiles have not been indexed by Google eventhough you bookmarked each and everyone of them?

[djbory]

Does anybody knows when Angela's and Paul's July backlinks packages are going to be delivered. Or maybe they, themselves can answer that question? I' exited about the this month package!

DJBory

[mistermickster]

Originally Posted by djbory

Does anybody knows when Angela's and Paul's July backlinks packages are going to be delivered.

Already got mine.

[djbory]

What should I do to get this month's package? Do I have to send an email or something? I thought I'd get it automatically in my email every month... Any clues?...

[axleman]

You will get an email with links to download the files

[Doug D]

Gabby-- You have the Google "pagerank" on your toolbar,right? All you have to do is click on that...and you will get a drop-down, it will say "google cache", click on that and another tab will come up with the Google cache page/or not. I mean the new tab will come up either way, then you need to click that tab in your browser, and then you will see if it has been cached or not.
Splinter--You want keywords in the content, you want variations of your keywords in the content, you want the theme of the content to be akin to your keywords...this can only serve to help the link juice that one may get from the anchor text links.
djbory-- I have not received either. I suspect she is just a little behind...from her usual schedule.
And with regard to the bookmarks. Actually, those that I went in and looked at-- I had not previously bookmarked those at the time when I had set them up. I only just did this yesterday, and then I took another group that had also not been cached...and I am trying something different with them. Just doing some testing to see what may work the best for me...as far as getting those url's indexed.

P.S. I think Paul sends his out around the 5th or so of the month. But you should get Angela's today, sometime.

[Doug D]

Keep in mind guys-- These packets are great resources, and if a certain % of your profile url's are not getting indexed, then it is incumbent on us to go out and do what we can to help facilitate the process. Don't go getting all pissed at Angela or Paul...if they are not indexed. They provide the info (at to cheap of a price, as far as I'm concerned), but the onus is on us to make the most of those resources, be it in time spent doing a proper like profile with an article in the blog section, or getting G.-bot to see the page.

[djbory]

Originally Posted by Doug D

Gabby--
Just doing some testing to see what may work the best for me...as far as getting those url's indexed.

P.S. I think Paul sends his out around the 5th or so of the month. But you should get Angela's today, sometime.

Thanks for the info... If you find something that works for you... don't forget to share...Some insides will be appreciated...

DJBory