The Angela Experiment: aka Let's gang up on Angela thread

[Craig McPherson]

Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin

I have absolutely no problem building 100+ backlinks/day to a new site.

While I do 5-10 a day.

Goes to show that both are considered compliant by the big G

HTH

[schnisz]

Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin

You have to understand that just because you put up your links today, doesn't mean that they will get crawled today (they won't). Note that there is a difference between the sandbox (if it does actually exist...a different story), and the typical google "dance". If you want to rank well for a competitive term, you have to throw tons of backlinks at it and there is no doubt that the site might bounce around in the rankings while your links are being absorbed. I have absolutely no problem building 100+ backlinks/day to a new site.

what system or product are you using to do 100 links per day? thanks

brian

[snyder7]

I noticed that too. That's why I stopped using them and moved exclusively to senuke

[FJM2010]

Great experiment and very interesting, I'll have to give it a go....Cheers

[loginname]

Now it's a week since I created 7 backlinks to my new site. Google Webmaster Tool displays none, and Yahoo Site Explorer reports that it have found only 1

any suggestions? just keep waiting in the hope of they will find the rest?

[RebeccaL]

7 days is nothing. Backlink updates can take a lot longer to show up. Stop studying it and keep on moving - although I don't advocate the method described in this thread (I personally prefer to spend my time getting high quality backlinks), if its working for you (or you think it will work) then just keep doing it. Check on your progress once per month and you'll see changes, rather than checking everyday.

[Royaltamang]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

SENUke is more powerful...

Combine it with Paul and Angela Back links...Superb!

Thanks for the tip.I have never done with SENUke.Hope this will work out great with me.

[belgirl]

Actually my article is #2 on Google and has been in that position for quite some time.

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

I would just like to chime back in here - as after all this was supposed to be about backlinking a Go article - optimized for the keywords:

Panic Attack Heart Symptoms

On a lark I checked google to see where that little blog I created ended up.

Well its now on page 1 - again, and appears it has been, and stupid me never took it serious enough to monetize as its been getting 2000 'hits" a month now for over 3 months - lol. About 150 unique visitors - without even trying [ really trying]

The original poster's GoArticle with the uber high PR backlinks from the packets is firmly on Page 2.

My point of joining the experiment was too stop all the Hoo Hah about 3 things ...

1. Why link up an article when you can backlink your OWN property first and foremost. I spun another parties GoArticle to make it uniquely my own and "on page'd" it enough to be mine and made it a BLOG[ post]. 1 hr. $10 for the domain name.

2. GoArticles and EZA Articles get indexed faster than your stuff. Well they did actually get in the index higher faster initially than my silly blog ... BUT the duplicate [ yes i typed duplicate] content I put out on my Backlink Goldmine report sites [ where i backlinked ] that allow blog posts - actually ranked faster and higher than the GoArticle originally used by the OP'r I had a piece of content on page one #3 or 4 originally for the term in question in the google index - under 5 hrs using BGM sites and duplicate content.

3. Lastly and most important to me ... the fallacy of these "High PR" links. I intentionally and purposely backlinked the blog and keywords using the skankiest and most [ by other warriors and seo's standards ] worthless low pr sites to put the backlinks on I had in my bag o' tricks.

All this nattering about profiles [ inner pages of PR 0 or n/a ] on a domain where the homepage has high pr ... pffffttt .... an inner page with PR 0 or n/a is a inner page with PR 0 n/a - no matter the domains homepage PR. Does that make the link any better or any worse? Ive come to my conclusions.

Does having the content being on Go or EZA give you more serp power or link juice? Doesnt seem to - ultimately.

Is this test or experiment the end all be all ? Nope


Here's one other element of the experiement that was important to me but may not be to you.

The thing to me that is very different about the original poster's tactics is - they went for the fewer links higher pr or Quality over quantity.

Whereas I set out to go the totally opposite direction - Speed and ease and quantity - fast fast fast. I went to easy fast automated sites where I could blast links and blog posts without moderator intervention, and used automation to Ping and Bookmark and draw the bots back to the Zero PR sites for spidering. I backlinked fast and furiously for about 5 days. As thats all the time I wanted to dedicate to the project.

Yahoo site explorer indicates I made over 569 backlinks to the site in that period of time.

[loginname]

Originally Posted by belgirl

Actually my article is #2 on Google and has been in that position for quite some time.

Are you logged into Google Webmaster Tools when you check that? I ask because my site is #2 in google when I'm logged in... when logged out I'm at #86 (which mean my site don't exists), think it have something to do with personale search or somthing like that

[loginname]

Originally Posted by RebeccaL

7 days is nothing. Backlink updates can take a lot longer to show up. Stop studying it and keep on moving - although I don't advocate the method described in this thread (I personally prefer to spend my time getting high quality backlinks), if its working for you (or you think it will work) then just keep doing it. Check on your progress once per month and you'll see changes, rather than checking everyday.

But I've read that when Angela creates backlinks for her sites the effects can be visible within a week. That's what I read in the "Biggest Questions Answered.PDF".

I did a test to see if google had indexed my backlinks, I put the url of my profile site into google and hit the search button, No results where found..

So I wonder what trick Angela uses so that the backlink effect is visible in so short notice...?

[David]

Originally Posted by loginname

But I've read that when Angela creates backlinks for her sites the effects can be visible within a week. That's what I read in the "Biggest Questions Answered.PDF".

I did a test to see if google had indexed my backlinks, I put the url of my profile site into google and hit the search button, No results where found..

So I wonder what trick Angela uses so that the backlink effect is visible in so short notice...?

IMNSHO (not so humble opinion) how quickly a backlink gets indexed depends on (possibly) the "quality" of the aggregate total, the volume of, the related-ness of your backlinks. I'm thinking there is a "quality score" of sorts in Google's algorithm.

How related to each other are your back links?
Are they in a related theme?
Are they relevant to one another?

The speed in which they are indexed might have something to do with what I just said.

The night of the snow storm here in Maryland, for our local area I dominated the serps for the entire 24 hours. In Frederick Maryland we got 22 inches of snow in a 24 hour period.

I started backlinking at the first sign of snow... for the next 24 hours my client, a grounds maintenance company in Frederick Maryland, was occupying between 4 and 8 of the 10 available organic Google listings.

Might you be able to do the same?
I'm guessing that the answer to that depends on a "quality score" of your backlinking history.

[Tom Goodwin]

As Terry Kyle documented in his "60 day experiment" thread, you really need to be looking at something like a 3 month timetable.

Sure, some sites can respond fast, but people sometimes fool themselves into thinking that they can get to the top of Google in a couple of days. In any event, you should be focusing on getting a relatively fixed high position and if that takes a couple of months so be it.

I respect Angela greatly but I think that sometimes people take away unfair impressions of how fast it takes for backlinks to both get picked up and to affect your rankings.

Now, as for how to get your backlinks picked up, check out Sean Donahue's backlink booster in the WSO section.

I chronicled in that thread how I did a "test" group of 130 profile backlinks. I "boosted" these links as soon as I put them up and 62% of them were indexed by google within 24 hours. I usually can't get my own pages indexed that fast

[Tom Goodwin]

My experience is entirely opposite.

I can have new sites (as in created the day before), and get the backlinks both indexed and showing up in yahoo site explorer quickly. I don't look at relevancy at all, as i'm more than happy to get a link from a PR5 hamster site to my IM site.

What works, is to get as much juice/links as you can pointing to your backlinks to help Google notice them quickly. Things like pinging, rss feeds, twitter, social bookmarking, etc., works wonders. The more backlinks, the faster Google will pick up your backlink.

Originally Posted by David

IMNSHO (not so humble opinion) how quickly a backlink gets indexed depends on (possibly) the "quality" of the aggregate total, the volume of, the related-ness of your backlinks. I'm thinking there is a "quality score" of sorts in Google's algorithm.

How related to each other are your back links?
Are they in a related theme?
Are they relevant to one another?

The speed in which they are indexed might have something to do with what I just said.

The night of the snow storm here in Maryland, for our local area I dominated the serps for the entire 24 hours. In Frederick Maryland we got 22 inches of snow in a 24 hour period.

I started backlinking at the first sign of snow... for the next 24 hours my client, a grounds maintenance company in Frederick Maryland, was occupying between 4 and 8 of the 10 available organic Google listings.

Might you be able to do the same?
I'm guessing that the answer to that depends on a "quality score" of your backlinking history.

[loginname]

Just to verify one thing, when I wonder if google has found my backlinks
I perform a search on google:
<keyword in anchor text> site:<url of the main domain>

If google report that nothing was found, then I assume the backlinks is not discovered by google yet

ok?

[jazbo]

I am constantly amazed that people waste their precious life checking if backlinks are indexed. If you have built them, and submitted them to social media and RSS, then you have done enough. Rather than wasting time checking when they get into yahoo explorer etc, think of that time being spent...building more links. Far more productive and beneficial.

[Pat Jackson]

Originally Posted by jazbo

I am constantly amazed that people waste their precious life checking if backlinks are indexed. If you have built them, and submitted them to social media and RSS, then you have done enough. Rather than wasting time checking when they get into yahoo explorer etc, think of that time being spent...building more links. Far more productive and beneficial.

If you use something like Andy Black's index checker it doesn't take very long at all to see which backlinks are indexed.

You simply enter in the url's and let it go to work.

Even with RSS feeds and social media postings some of them will occasionally not be indexed for whatever reason, so it's definitely worth spending the time to see which ones aren't.

After all, it's easier and less time consuming to get an existing un-indexed backlink indexed than making a new profile and then trying to get that indexed.

[loginname]

Originally Posted by jazbo

I am constantly amazed that people waste their precious life checking if backlinks are indexed. If you have built them, and submitted them to social media and RSS, then you have done enough. Rather than wasting time checking when they get into yahoo explorer etc, think of that time being spent...building more links. Far more productive and beneficial.

I submit them to pingler.com, wonder if that is enough?
Not sure how to create RSS feeds etc

[belgirl]

Nope, not logged in...

Originally Posted by loginname

Are you logged into Google Webmaster Tools when you check that? I ask because my site is #2 in google when I'm logged in... when logged out I'm at #86 (which mean my site don't exists), think it have something to do with personale search or somthing like that

[Tom Goodwin]

Originally Posted by tim98133

I have a few questions on this subject:

1) I’ve heard mixed messages on the effectiveness of these types of links. This is because the actual page where they’re listed is PR 0 even though the domain is a higher PR >5. Does anyone have an opinion as to if these types of links can help ranking?
2) I’ve noticed a lot of my links have not been indexed. Is there any easy way to do this? I’m not that familiar with using RSS, but my understanding is that you have to submit the links 1 by 1. Is there a way to submit mutable links at the same time?

Tim

1) Many of us rank very high in google for very competitive keywords whereby the majority of our backlinks come from these type of high profile links (i.e., high PR base domain, PR0/NA profile page)./

2) you can create an RSS feed of multile hmtl pages (into one RSS feed) using the bulk converter at feedage.com. Note that we have seen pages show up in the backlink searches even if that particular page isn't showing up in Google's index. Odd, I know, but it happens. That being said, i still of course want my profile pages indexed. I highly recommend Sean Donahue's backlink booster (wso). It is a combination of software, and instructions on how to setup your own enormous linking web. >50% of my profile backlinks are indexed by google within 24 hours after I use backlink booster.

[medway]

Originally Posted by jazbo

I am constantly amazed that people waste their precious life checking if backlinks are indexed. If you have built them, and submitted them to social media and RSS, then you have done enough. Rather than wasting time checking when they get into yahoo explorer etc, think of that time being spent...building more links. Far more productive and beneficial.

The advantage of checking to see if they stick is to compile a list of sites that get indexed. I find some backlinks from certain sites don't or not as easily so I cross them off the list.

That way your backlinking endeavor can be more efficient over time.

I used to not check either but then one day I did check and realized the time I spent posting backlinks to certain areas was a waste and also realized the importance of backlinking my backlinks.

[medway]

Originally Posted by belgirl

Nope, not logged in...

You're number #2 here in the UK.

[Tom Goodwin]

Originally Posted by medway

The advantage of checking to see if they stick is to compile a list of sites that get indexed. I find some backlinks from certain sites don't or not as easily so I cross them off the list.

That way your backlinking endeavor can be more efficient over time.

I used to not check either but then one day I did check and realized the time I spent posting backlinks to certain areas was a waste and also realized the importance of backlinking my backlinks.

A+

This is exactly what I did to create a 100-site "super fast show up in backlink search index" list If I have a new site that I want to get backlinks, I usually start with this "go to" list. There is no point of wasting time backlink to sites that never show up, now matter what I do.

[loginname]

Today I created a backlink, then I created a RSS feed of the backlink (the webpage containing my backlink) using feedage.com. Then submitted the RSS feed using Feedage.com. In addition I used pingler.com against the backlink profile (the page my backlink is stored on)

Is this an okay way of posting backlinks or are there something I've forgotten here? I ask cause I'm a newbie in backlink strategy

[kaos]

I too keep a list of sites that show up and link to these first. I have no idea how the search engines work but I have found some links show up often and others take a while or never show up.
If something works I keep doing it until it quits working(without abusing it) but I believe the real secret is to keep doing SOMETHING everyday.

Doug

[jack7678]

you have to see kkchoon's article in this forum it's the most amazing article for researching article keywords

[Tom Goodwin]

Originally Posted by jack7678

you have to see kkchoon's article in this forum it's the most amazing article for researching article keywords

?????????????

Did you comment on the wrong thread by accident, or was there some other reason to make an off-topic post in a thread that has been over for a couple of months?

[banker0679]

how else is he supposed to get his post count up?

[jasonmorgan]

+1 to my post count

[Ohioquotes]

Plus one for me also. I'll hit 10,000 in no time.

[gundammeister]

It looks like Angela's article isn't ranking for backlinks anymore

[michealcdz]

Use Micro Niche finder for lower competitive keywords

[RalphRobert]

Originally Posted by belgirl

Can you give me an example of proper keyword research? I am a newbie. Thanks,

Try keyword elte, webCEO. IBP is also good.

Robert

[RalphRobert]

Angela packs are good but many people are buying and using it. Sometimes, the websites ban the new users.

Use their strategy but find new sites on your own.

Robert.

[Tom Goodwin]

Originally Posted by gundammeister

It looks like Angela's article isn't ranking for backlinks anymore

She's been dancing between #2/3 and the top of page 2 for the past few weeks. You have to keep in mind that some of us are competing heavily with her now. If you want to brand yourself in the backlinks market, it helps to rank well for that keyword...hence the increased competition. Between Terry Kyle and myself, we have 6 sites in the top 14 including the forum that fluctuates between 2 and 3. It's a brave new world.

Tom

[shaktimaan]

Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin

She's been dancing between #2/3 and the top of page 2 for the past few weeks. You have to keep in mind that some of us are competing heavily with her now. If you want to brand yourself in the backlinks market, it helps to rank well for that keyword...hence the increased competition. Between Terry Kyle and myself, we have 6 sites in the top 14 including the forum that fluctuates between 2 and 3. It's a brave new world.

Tom

Interesting! Angela is a very tough competitor. She has been ranking at # 2 for about 1 year.

[sashagrey]

Tom and Terry are seriously nipping at her heels with several sites and I suspect before the year is out she'll no longer be in the top 5.

[spirituscorpus]

I also use Angela's backlinks package as well as more recently Terry Kyle's.

I must have created hundred of profiles in the last few months and I'll be damned if I can find 10 which are indexing !!

I think more emphasis should be placed on the fact the presumably these links need "backlink boosting".

Any advice is welcome

[Raekwon]

I have done the same myself and i cant see them when i use YSE or OpenSE. But that doesn't mean the don't exist or work as they should because i have pretty good results lately.

Regards,

Raekwon

[kaizenfer]

This is my first month, I can tell you that the backlink show up very fast. I had problems with some websites that didn't allow me to place my website. I use site explorer.

[fotocewek]

Originally Posted by tdave

Use seo tool like IBP ,it has step by step guide on keyword research.

What is mean IBP, sorry newbie here

[theseoguys]

IBP is iBusiness Promoter. They sell a tool that makes mostly onsite recommendations, and generates fairly comprehensive reports. If you follow every step, and achieve a certain score for your site, they guarantee first page results or your money back on the software.

[kea55]

yes I agree really good inspiration and it sounds like quite a useful study!

[victoriakeenato]

Test result as well. I'm in a market of health products. I wrote five articles using keywords I hope you can make. ll post my results here in about 2 weeks.

[Hen8neH]

Hi Everyone,

I've used angela's backlinks in the past and I'm thinking of doing it again now that I have more time to spend on backlinking. I just have a question for people who have bought link packages from Angela during the last 6 months or before. I noticed that most forum script updates resulted in making profiles invisible to non logged in visitors. Did this affect the effectiveness of backlinks built before these updates? If that were the case, I would probably not buy ancient packages where forum profile backlinks are pretty common.

Thanks in advance for your answers.

[stevenjotello]

Test result as well. I'm in a market of health products. I wrote five articles using keywords I hope you can make. I'll post my results here in about 2 weeks.

[fannyballard]

There may be room for some confusion here? symptoms of a heart attack is the anxiety of people who have anxiety attacks and tachycardia. panic symptoms of a heart attack, I suppose, is about the people feel in a panic because they think they are heaving a heart attack. A psychological and other acute chest pain ...

[iresh]

Just woke up this morning to find yet another article of mine at the bottom of page 1 pos 8! It was de-indexed for about 2-3 days,

Hmm good news for you, i am a New Bee in this article submitting thing can any one point me out about the traffic volume associated with this type of SEO

[princeambrose12]

I've tried. I'm using the health product market. I wrote five articles I hope to convert keywords. I'll post my results here for about 2 weeks or so.

[Autobot]

Basically you have to do SEO regularly. Getting those backlinks indexed fast isn't as important as getting a constant stream of them. And they should better be quality backlinks.

If you've got a low competition keyword it's easy to rank, even without any SEO. But if you really want to make money, there will be competition. You will have to provide regular content and keep building them backlinks.