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Old 06-20-2009, 10:42 AM   #101
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Hi jay,

I have done one listing. The listing appeared in approx 12 hours. The search seems to only pick up when the keyterm is in the company field.

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takingaction,

I understand your point and agree with you.

Jay uses a little more "creative license" than I do in the business name field. I only use the proper, legal name of the business. So, I'm compliant with big G's terms. I was smart and used one of my keywords in my formal company name, so I'm good with Google. I would never do anything even grayhat for work I perform for another business. The lawsuits would cost way more than I make! That's just me.

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Old 06-20-2009, 11:11 AM   #103
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Jay Rhome,

You're right on.

If they type dentist or back pain they'll see a local business listing, but it most often is statewide (here in the states), but if they type in a city name with the word dentist, the results are very focused around that city, much more valuable/targeted.

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I am brand spanking new to IM. My background is Finance. Is this possible for me to do?

I just need to learn how to find the keywords.

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Great post! I copied it to my desktop.

Just FYI - the link to the Youtube video, in your first post, isn't working.

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Robert - Excellent post! You're touching on the strategy I use for my business "inbound marketing". I hate cold calling, so I market in a way (similar to your post (but more face-to-face networking) and try to get people to come to me for help, instead of asking if they need help.

BTW, where have you been since 2004? You've got game, come around more often!

Topgunb - Ya, that's the way this "local business results" thing works. A person must type a keyword/phrase in along with a city/state name for
"local business results" to show up. HTH.

Ron - What kind of "finance"? If you're an accountant, then optimize your listing for "accountant", "book keeping", "business taxes", "payroll processing" and stuff like that. Make sense? This will tell you how many people are searching for those terms every day - Free Keyword Suggestion Tool From Wordtracker

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Dana,

That's funny, that linked worked yesterday!


Try this one.

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Mergers and Acqusitions, Private Equity........etc.






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Robert - Excellent post! You're touching on the strategy I use for my business "inbound marketing". I hate cold calling, so I market in a way (similar to your post (but more face-to-face networking) and try to get people to come to me for help, instead of asking if they need help.

BTW, where have you been since 2004? You've got game, come around more often!

Topgunb - Ya, that's the way this "local business results" thing works. A person must type a keyword/phrase in along with a city/state name for
"local business results" to show up. HTH.

Ron - What kind of "finance"? If you're an accountant, then optimize your listing for "accountant", "book keeping", "business taxes", "payroll processing" and stuff like that. Make sense? This will tell you how many people are searching for those terms every day - Free Keyword Suggestion Tool From Wordtracker

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your google map video is not found Jay...

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Hey guys,

This thread has taken on a complete life of it's own... lol
Mark, thank you for keeping an eye on this thread and answering
many of the questions.

@Jay Rhome - You're right on the mark with everything.
This is a simple yet powerful method to get businesses out in
front of their target audiences. For those that are new to IM
understanding the significance of keywords is essential. Here is
the bottom line... **Remember** those people that are looking
to buy are specific in their keyword research. Meaning, buyers
of products tend to use three or more keywords in their search
to find exactly what they're looking for. For example, someone
that just did a search for the keyword 'golf' is far too vague.
There are too many subtopics under golf to know what that
people is truly looking for. However, someone that types in -
'6 volt golf cart batteries' is very specific and more likely to
purchase that item. When someone searches for the product
and the location then this is someone that is thinking about
making a purchase.

Hence, tanning salon new york, book keeping boston etc.

@codepoint786 Maybe, the immediate area that you're living
in has limited businesses to approach? However, I'm in a
metropolitan area that has numerous businesses that need our
services. The opportunity is more then all those IM's living in my
geographic area will ever be able take complete advantage
of. Offline marketing is not for everyone but we all can make
great livings doing it.

@Dana and @Zoobie - thanks and the video is all sorted out

@topgunb: After you setup the company name, address etc.
on the next page you'll have categories to choose from. Go
ahead and add a few categories.

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Old 06-20-2009, 01:07 PM   #111
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I'm talking about using simple things like classified ads and direct mail.
Robert
Hey Robert,

I fully agree that there are many ways to approach the offline
arena. I use a wide array of methods. My business model uses
phone, direct mail, classified ads etc. etc. Here is a thread post
that I highly recommend by David Preston...

Here's A Stupidly Simple Way To Generate "Emergency" Cash NOW!

This is very easy to do and can generate at least $1,000-$1,500 within the next few days!

First, you need to find some local business owners who need what you're about to offer them here. No, you won't be pounding
the pavement or cold calling anyone....they will be calling YOU.

You can use a couple of methods to find these clients.

1. You can simply go to the phone book and look up businesses in your local area. Write down any business that you want. You will
use that list to check the internet in a minute or two, so keep it handy.

2. OR you get an in depth "drill down" listing from GoLeads which will give you tons of information on all businesses in ANY geographic area. Cost is about $15 for unlimited access. :-)

Once you have your list, about 20-25 is all you need to start. Look them up on the internet to see if they have a website. For this particular deal you want them to have a website. (If they don't have a site yet, we can deal with that later.)

Once you have a few of the websites, visit them. Here's what you're looking for: Any business site that does not have a capture
mechanism installed on their FRONT page.

In other words, they need to have an autoresponder opt in form on their front page. If they don't....you're in for some quick cash.

When you have about 10-15 "prospects" send them this letter:

************************************************** *
Mr./Ms. ___________

My name is ______________ and I am a local e-commerce business consultant.

I know your time is valuable, as is mine so I'll get right to the point. If I could show you an unused asset that you ALREADY
have that could make you thousands of dollars, would you be willing to speak with me for 15 minutes?

This free consultation can save you as much as 50% off your entire monthly advertising budget AND bring you brand new customers at the same time! The best part is that you already have it, so the cost to implement this marketing weapon is minimal.

Please call me at 416 *** **** at your earliest convenience to schedule a free "no strings" consultation. I promise you, it will be worth your time.

To Your Success,
Jay Sabree

Internet Marketing Expert

416 *** ****
************************************************** ***
That's it! Believe me when I say that your phone will ring off the hook. DO NOT mass mail that letter! You really only need to mail
25-30 per week and you'll be busy.

Now that you have the clients calling you, the next step is to set a consultation appointment and meet them. The unused asset they have is of course their website which has no list building capabilities.

The "money is in the list" applies to ALL businesses, not just online marketers. By building a proper list they can cut their
advertising dollars at least in half. Just send a customer blast about an upcoming sale instead of paying $4,000 for a half page ad.

You follow me here? All you have to do is set up an autoresponder opt in form on their existing site! That's it.

I have coaching students who are making $250-$500 a deal with just this method. It's very easy to generate 4, 5 or even 6 deals
per week this way. Heck, it only takes about 20-30 minutes to put the form on their site and that's if you're slow!

I usually visit their site, right click and select "view source" and save it in notepad. Then I open the notepad in an html editor and install the form. (I use Trellian pagebuilder, which is free and allows me to preview the finished site.) Once I'm done I save it as, "theirsitename.html" send it to their programmer and they can swap it. (I charge $50 if I have to load it.)

You can use your autoresponder account or let them get an aweber account with your affiliate link of course. If you use your account then you control their list. In either case this usually leads to "who is going to write the emails" which is another monetization chapter for later....

Just so you know, almost half of all the sites I look at fall into the category of no capture system. It may be more or less where you
live, but it's a rampant problem.... everywhere. Why? Because they simply don't understand e-commerce.

By the way, GoLeads will also give you the name of the business owner, number of employees, etc. Do your first one the hard way if you have to, but it's worth the $15 to be able to put their name on the letter.

Response rates will triple if you use their name and this little trick.

Stamp "CONFIDENTIAL" in red block letters on the front of the envelope. This will make them put your letter in the "open later"
pile instead of straight into the trash. It's a simple but effective strategy especially if you use their name. You can get a confidential stamp at Staples for $5. I've used the same one for years.

Keep this in mind. People sort their mail while standing over the trash can. You do it, so you know it's true. You have to have
something that stands out and says, "This might be important, I'll look at it later."

*NOTE*
Change their cash register and credit card terminal receipt to read, "For Preferred Customer Discounts Sign Up At: (their
website) There is a toll free number on the side of every register and terminal for support. Just call them and they will walk you through changing it. It only takes about 10 minutes.

This strategy is awesome because it does two major jobs when it comes to marketing.

1. It captures all their current customers because everybody reads their receipt, and everybody wants to be a preferred customer to get discounts. It also captures all walk in traffic that actually BUY something. Which leads us to:

2. A list of nothing but BUYERS of their product. No tirekickers or browsers, buyers only! You may need to clarify to them exactly why that's so powerful.
Now you've made a client for life and there are tons of other methods to help them, and generate a great living for you as well.

I've just shared a tested, proven method to generate some serious emergency money FAST! Just copy and paste the direct
mail letter and get to work.

You can do this.

I told you it was stupidly simple, and it works because it really is helping them, and that's what it's all about.

Make it a great marketing day,

David Preston

Cheers

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I am brand spanking new to IM. My background is Finance. Is this possible for me to do? I just need to learn how to find the keywords.
Hey Ron,

Welcome to the world of IM

Watch the below video on keyword research. Also on the first page of this thread I posted many tools for you to use


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Very nice idea!

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Ron,

You probably need a tool to hep you out. I use Keyword Elite and it's great. Market Samurai is the latest / greatest tool from what I can tell. Goggle's tool will help somewhat, but you really need more to do a good job.

Zoobie,

I posted the same video in post #111.

Jay,

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Mark, thank you for keeping an eye on this thread and answering
many of the questions.
No problem. Just covering for you while you were talking to customers! I'm sure my answers were different than yours might have been, but that's the beauty of this concept. A lot of ways to skin the cat!

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Thanks for the sales pitch and marketing idea. I was thinking of doing this and some door to door work as well.
Hey there,

Great stuff... Now it's time to take some action steps...

I'm a huge believer in mindset and personal development...

Start with the below video, add a few ideas from this forum and
run with it


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Wow Jay you're on a roll. That David Preston's post is gold - though I find it hard to believe sending a mere 25 letters will get one flooding with leads, the simple steps of setting autoresponders and putting the website address on the receipts are yet again amazingly simple yet efficient.

For a weird reason, I didn't want to do offline and consultant work before. I wanted to use IM to set myself free on my "own terms". I had been designing SEO/PPC/Email Marketing services for the last few weeks, and approached a few prospects, but my heart wasn't into it.

Since a few days ago though, it has changed completely. I need to see "real faces", and if I make $500 with a client instead of trying to sell $500 of a product, it's still $500- but I get feedback, can influence the outcome with my own persuasive powers, etc. The lack of feedback is what kills me the most. I've had recent SEO successes that have resulted in little or no money and I'm tired of the randomness.

I'll use the earnings to outsource many of the stuff needed to build true businesses - and not just become a decently paid self-employed consultant.

I've found your thread by looking for a way I can offer my services of putting ezines and hubpages for low-medium competition keywords in the Google top 10 in a few days. This might be of value to many marketers and businesses.

Anyway good thread! This is "offline" gold.
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Anyway good thread! This is "offline" gold.
Hey Jay,

Glad I could help. I learned a ton from this forum.
I spent entire nights reading threads like this one.
Then jumping out there and trying things out. Now
I'm really enjoying everything that's happening
around me. Hopefully, you make each system your
own, close all your back doors, stop making excuses,
start taking consistent actions and never look back!!!

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One thing is for sure: there's no excuses left if I want to make money offering SEO services.
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MarkR,

You said you put the business name and not keywords in the business name field.

Are their listings on page 1 of google within 24 hours?

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Joan,

Generally yes. When I enter a new LBC listing, or edit an existing listing, Google used to say something like "please wait for your listing to be approved" but I haven't been seeing that message lately for some reason. As I remember, all listings seem to appear within 24 hours, but honestly, I don't check on it very often. These listings are pretty quickly listed, so no reason to monitor it that close for me.

Yes, when they show up, they show up in 1st position, if you're targeting the right keywords and you do you research it right. It's not like traditional on-page SEO where your keyword rankings change quite often before settling down after a few weeks. This is pretty stable.

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Thanks for your reply, Mark.

I appreciate it.

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Per jsherloc:

"The other horrible thing I was thinking about was I'd imagine that some less-techy biz owners probably see other businesses, especially their direct competition, doing this. Then they might go and change their name listings to some keyword term as well. I literally just learned about this, so I highly doubt a regular business owner knows whats up with Google TOS."

I likewise can't totally knock the method since I don't have the experience. But doesn't the business lose something in the process by NOT using and listing their business under the established name?

I did a local search just last week for a restaurant who's name my old tired, foggy brain just could not recall. But I knew I would recognize it when I saw it. It did show up in the 10 Pack Map listings. But if the name had been disguised with food keywords, I might have missed it.

The bottom line though is that this concept is a winning proposition with many avenues for success. And no need for pushy sales.

March on Jay.
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Thanks Jay for sharing, I'd be wary of doing this over, could be seen as an undesirable trick

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Wow,...I just finished reading every single post and I must say that this is some good stuff Jay! Even if we don't use the exact methods that Jay recommends,...the tips and ideas gathered,... leaves the door wide open for other ideas & opportunities!

Thanks Jay --> keep me posted on any wso you start!

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I'd be wary of doing this over, could be seen as an undesirable trick
This is where you and I defer. There is no way that I would give up
something that is fruitful because of a little negative press. This
method works and very well for those that use it. I've been an
affiliate marketer for sometime driving traffic through PPC. I learned
a lot of how to generate income through trial and error. Whenever
I didn't play by Google's rules then my bank account felt that cold
reality. So, whenever my traffic was cut off or Google decided to
hike up my minimum bid 'The Google Slap', I simply contacted the
powers that be and found out what the issue was. Then I sourced
out a solution, took action and never made the same mistake twice.
The difference between the highly successful and the mediocre is
speed of implementation.

BTW: For anyone that is having issues with adwords PPC here is
their phone number - 866 246 6453

This was and still is a fantastic brainstorming session for the forum.

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it's sound like very easy and quick method..... i like to try it to my next blog.... thanks for sharing


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Well, I just set up a local listing for my Etsy shop (http://www.tinkerandpo.etsy.com)...it took me about 2 minutes total and is immediately showing if I look up "fingerless gloves Chicago" in Google Maps. We'll see in the next couple days if I'm on page one!

ETA: UM, WOW. There I am in 7th position on the first page of Google

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Awesome idea. Thats a great sales pitch!! I am not very much familiar with such things, but the whole idea impressed me a lot
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If anyone is looking for some free sales leads to get going:

Welcome to Salesgenie.com® - We Put You in the Lead

They allow you sign up and get 100 leads for free without even putting a CC # down. You can refine your search based on a zip code and then refine it even further from there.

It will then pull up all the leads that match your criteria. Then you can pick and choose which leads you want as part of your free 100.

That should be enough to get you rocking and rolling...
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it's sound like very easy and quick method
Hey there,

This is easy but you need to try it to find out

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ETA: UM, WOW. There I am in 7th position on the first page of Google
Great! Thx for trying this out. Now see if this can make you some
money!

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Thats a great sales pitch!!
Glad you like it. Here's a little tip - I brought on a new telesales
lady this week. Every morning for one hour 8:30a.m. to 9:30a.m. I do
training with her. First we go over the pitch together and then at
9:00 we call a few businesses. I pitch the first company then talk about
what happened with her next she pitches the second company and
of course we chat about what happened.

If you want to keep your 100% commission sales guys working hard
for you then I suggest doing training like this for 5 to 10 business
days. That means YOU need to become the expert, FIRST! That's
only going to happen if you pitch a few businesses and close a
couple sales.

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Jay,

I decided to try this for my dad's insurance agency before trying to get paid clients. Now, my Dad's industry has a lot of Google Local Listings, but they don't seem to be optimized for the keyword I'm targeting.

Well, I set up a listing, but I can't even find the listing in Google Local. I notice when I look at my Dashboard, it says my ad is 77% complete. I've filled out every form, added a photo, everything except a video. I entered the code Google called to me. Nothing.

Do you know of any simple thing I might be missing? I'm really interested in trying this, but I want to make sure I can do this before attempting to talk to business owners.

Also, when you talk about being on the first page of google, do you mean the Google Local Ad will be listed on the first page of Google or that the actual site usually gets listed on Google?
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David,

I'll let Jay answer the first question.

What this does for you is get your "Local business results" listing on page one of Google. It has no bearing on the organic search results as far as I know, although you can be on page one for organic results also.

PS. Did you try typing in all of the various keywords you were shooting for followed by the city name? Do you get other "Local business results" showing up when you type in your keywords and city name?

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Thanks, Mark! I did some more searching and see that my listing is in Google for my Dad. I stopped before on page 20 of Google Local Businesses and there he is on Page 24. That's for the primary keyword I targeted. You gave me an idea though to check the listing for the other categories I entered and he's actually ranked higher (page 5) for the secondary keyword.

I knew going into this that my dad's in a pretty competitive industry, but I figured if I could get him on the first page that would be great. No such luck, but in researching, I see the next town over has no one listed in just about any of the few categories I checked. I think I'll just target another town and see what happens.

Thanks again.

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I just set up one company at my office and will see how it ranks in the next 2 days.
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Great idea, Jay!

I have several questions.

1. If you are doing this for 12 local Italian restaurants, wouldn't it be somewhat challenging to find 12 different keywords that are not in google maps?

2. I just looked in the phone book for jewelers.
One of the listings said, "custom jewelry"

I put it into google, and two other stores, not this one, appeared in google maps.
However, this particular store was the first organic entry.
Would you still ask them if they wanted to appear in google maps?

3. When I did a test listing, I entered a voicemail only number. It sounded like google left a message with the number 2. I entered the number as the pin and was told it was incorrect. Does google maps leave the pin number right away? If so, the first part of it is probably cut off when the greeting is playing if the call goes to voicemail.

How many digits is the pin?

4. Do you know how much David Preston charges for his service of adding the optin box and autoresponder service?

If not, what would you charge?

If you wanted to provide the optin service recommended by David Preston and your technique also, would you offer a package deal?

5. optin box placement

Where is the best placement for the optin box? Left, center, right.
I guess it depends on what is on the website.

I know how to revise HTML. I have put optin boxes in Wordpress, not on a regular website.
What code do you use to put the box on the left, center or right side of the page?
Is there a website you could suggest that explains this?

Thanks,
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p.s.

The jewelry business with the custom jewelry does not have its own website. The organic entry is a free business directory listing. So all that is on the listing is the name of the store, a description that consists of keywords, the address and phone.

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David,

Good job taking initiative.

In a competitive city/industry, it puts more emphasis on keyword research. If you find a better keyword with less competition, you'll get him on page one for sure. Go back and edit the listing and see where it takes you!

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p.s.

The jewelry business with the custom jewelry does not have its own website. The organic entry is a free business directory listing. So all that is on the listing is the name of the store, a description that consists of keywords, the address and phone.

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In that case maybe you could sell them a website?
You can make a nice looking site (with Wordpress) in an hour so, especially if they provide the content. I have done this for a few local businesses and always ranked them #1, #2 or #3 in the organic results... It's easy to do with self-hosted Wordpress and a good domain.

For such service I'd charge... from $1k to $5k depending on the business, also monthly maintenance charges. Opt-in could be extra and make sure to charge for hosting

... just a few ideas...

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Thanks, Alex.

What WP theme do you use for these sites?

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Jay,
I decided to try this for my dad's insurance agency before trying to get paid clients.
Hey David,

Good work on trying things out...

A couple things that I need to correct here.
The organic listing where a page of a website is
optimized towards a keyword is different then the
local business listings. Guys, it is possible for web
sites to out rank the Google Maps listings within
the organic rankings. Insurance is a very
competitive industry! Play with the categories to
see if you can find a couple placements that is not so
tough. Also, type in (Your Father's Business Name +
your locations) and see what comes up. If you used
the company's name then you should be on the first
page for that keyword.

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I knew going into this that my dad's in a pretty competitive industry, but I figured if I could get him on the first page that would be great. No such luck, but in researching, I see the next town over has no one listed in just about any of the few categories I checked. I think I'll just target another town and see what happens.
David,

Again, it is Very possible to outrank the Google Maps!
Setup a wordpress blog with a few good articles and start
a back linking campaign with Angela Edwards back links
and you can outrank the Map in no time.

The only way to target a different city is by having an
address in that city. Remember this is a 'Local Business
Listing'. Hence, if your address is not in that city then
you need to get an address in the city that you plan to
post the listing for.

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I decided to try this for my dad's insurance agency before trying to get paid clients. Now, my Dad's industry has a lot of Google Local Listings, but they don't seem to be optimized for the keyword I'm targeting.
Hey David,

Send me a quick pm with your business name and categories.

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Wow, this thread is so informative!!
So many helpful posts in here. Jay thankyou for sharing this and for taking the time to write out those answers for all of us to see, a lot of my questions have been answered
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Jay it would be better to use the actual business phone number to verify the listing. But I guess you can't.

Some more questions regarding phone numbers:

* I'm guessing here, but you probably need a phone number at least in the same area code as the business?
* Can you change the listing's number after the fact?

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Hey there

I missed your question before... You can use your phone number to verify
2 sometimes 3 listings after that use family/friends/work at home commission employees for more numbers. Once they accept or decline your offer then you either change the phone to their number or you delete the listing.

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Jay it would be better to use the actual business phone number to verify the listing. But I guess you can't.

Some more questions regarding phone numbers:

* I'm guessing here, but you probably need a phone number at least in the same area code as the business?
* Can you change the listing's number after the fact?
Hey Joe,

It is better to use the business number so please do that
if you can. You don't need to be in the same area code.
I work out of a couple different area codes. I'm not
experiencing any problems. You can change the listing at
anytime you want. You have complete control over the
listing and all the different categories.

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Jay,

This is my first post and really one of the first threads that i have read. This is such a great idea. I wanted to do this for my business site but had no idea how to even begin. Thanks for your insight on this. If you decide to do a pdf file or WSO for this i would definitely be interested.

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It's OK if there's other business results for your keywords. What you want to see is that none of these businesses bothered to obtain a google maps listing. Then you're home free

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Just got done reading this thread and doing some research on it.

Let me make sure I am getting this right because I can't find any workable keywords to use.

We are looking for keywords that don't have any local business results at all? correct?

And that are geo targeted (to the city)?

I have been using google keyword tool and the 2 cities around me with accountants and dentists and I can't find any geo targeted keywords that I could use that don't already have a local business results.

The only thing I could find that is remotely close are keywords that get 0 searches a month.

Am I missing something here?
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Not sure if Google takes into account the geo-location of the browser in what it shows. That would indeed be great.

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It's for local searches, but doesn't Google pretty much give us local results in most searches? I mean, when I put "dentists" in Google, I get a local dentists listing in there along with broader search results. Is that right?

Let say you put a local chiropractor in "back pain" or any such great keyword without a Google Map listing showing up, if a browser from the chiro's area searches on Google for back pain, won't that result pop up?

If yes, that is mighty powerful! At least till that tip spreads to the mainstream and everyone is doing it, or Google cracks down on it, but that could be months or a few years down the road. And who says any kind of SEO results are to be permanent? Your client gets your money's worth IMO.
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Hi Jay,

Doing the listings are easy. Put the business name in the place it belongs.

Tip
You can achieve multiple listings at the same address by using office no:1 in the address line after the street address - if you have it available. or you can put the street number on the second listing on 11a if the number is 11.

I'm with you Jay, do the keyterm research first.

I find the lisings on google in approx 12 hours now.

If you have a office away from home, get both listings.

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The only way to target a different city is by having an
address in that city. Remember this is a 'Local Business
Listing'. Hence, if your address is not in that city then
you need to get an address in the city that you plan to
post the listing for.
Jay,

I'm sorry. I meant that I would target another city to try what you are doing. The plan seems feasible and I can rank at the top of Google Maps for almost any category because there's no competition (NONE!) in most categories. Zero for insurance. Zero for apartments. Zero for Dentists. In my city there are over 3000 results on Local Directory for insurance. In the next city over there are zero. Granted my city has about 1/4 million people and the other city only has about 80,000, but I'll take my chances.

I can set appointments from my home and drive there once a week to meet face-to-face with prospects. Even if every appointment canceled or didn't buy it would be OK because it's the town I grew up in and I love visiting there.

I really appreciate your help!

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