6 Months Later: $300 Daily w/Adsense (Lessons Learned)

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by Drikus Botha

I can see why you recommend getting software like MNF. I was sceptical before but because I value your opinions, I just went ahead and bought it. I was so surprised to see how easy it is to actually find a profitable niche. Now I can spend my time doing things that actually make money instead of trying to find a needle in a hay stack. Thanks for opening up my mind to this.

Also keep in mind that there are other keyword tools that may have
more functions than Micro Niche Finder.

I just stick with it because it has the very basics that I need, and serves
this Adsense approach extremely well.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by dv8

Does Google keyword tool sometime give back false data?

I came across a keyword that came back with 90,500 EXACT searches per month with ZERO competition. There was not even a trace of green in their competition bar. I've never seen anything even remotely close to something like this.

Of course the domain is taken, both .com and .org. Although I can get a .org if I add a hyphen.

Should I be jumping for joy or am I missing something? Seems too good to be true.

I did a google search for the term in brackets and it came back with 4.6 million results. Never saw this before, but the first spot is images. Spots 2 and 3 are youtube videos. Only one of the results has part of the keywords in the domain. But some of the results have a TON of backlinks.

Yes, it sure does.

There are many times that a keyword comes back with crazy stats, but
then the next day changes to what it is supposed to be.

It's part of the aches and pains of keyword research. You just have to
roll with the punches.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by Jeremy123

dv8,

the green bar in the google keyword tool is the adwords competition,
how many merchants are bidding on that keyword.

looking forward to the course John,

by the way John, what is your daily adsense goal

I now have my goal set on $1,000 per day in the next 12-18 months.

- John

[jacoby2005]

Hi John;
I was just curious as to whether you ever used the adsense page generator software thats avaiable with the MNF and if so what kind of rating you would give for a site [page] built with this software.

Brian

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by Joseph Johnson

Hi John,

Was wondering where you at before hitting $300@day?

I'm not sure what you mean. I started at .5 to .20 cents per day, just
like everyone else.

However, although I would like to see $1,000 days, I no longer write
down money goals.

I now write down goes like:

"I want to put up 10 pages of content today" or "I want to get 5 sites
ranked #1 this month," etc.

Follow a set plan of action, without being distracted, and the money
will take care of itself.

- John

[Joseph Johnson]

Sorry I wasn't clear, before the 6 months later, $100 a day, $200 a day in adsense?

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by Joseph Johnson

Sorry I wasn't clear, before the 6 months later, $100 a day, $200 a day in adsense?

Well I was able to go from an average of $100 daily (give or take), to
$300+ in about 6 months using the same strategies I talk about here of
more sites and in less competitive niches.

It's really easy. Every site you build should give you at least $2.00 to
$5.00 each day with little-to-no maintanance.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by jacoby2005

Hi John;
I was just curious as to whether you ever used the adsense page generator software thats avaiable with the MNF and if so what kind of rating you would give for a site [page] built with this software.

Brian

I have never used any Adsense page builders like the one you mention. (I
use XsitePro).

I'm sure it works just fine though.

- John

[ayonline]

300+ daily thats cool. well have learnt valuable lesson for this post.Thanks again

[geosandler]

Based in your experience and with your strategies, how many sites do you think that need to achieve your new goal of $1.000 daily?

[Jeremy123]

Hi John,

In your course could you include what sort of content do you
put on your home page.

Also, just curious, what caused you to change from building
your large pet site to mini sites.

got the answer from your 1st post, you say it is because you have
to maintain it, is that because the pet site is a blog, because from
my experience once a large html static site has enough content and links the rankings
become pretty consistent, blogs usually need maintenance or rankings will drop

what caused you to change from wordtracker to google there is some controversy
as to google's search count being inflated.

[dv8]

Any tips on keyword research?

I downloaded a free trail of SEnuke so now I can do it the right way and check competition. But after 30 minutes of searching for a niche, I haven't really come close to anything.

It seems to be either or....high competition/high searches or no competition but not enough searches ot justify persuing.

Any tips or is that just the way it is...keep looking until you stumble on something? I don't expect to stumble on a great niche in two minutes, but so far I am getting nowhere.

[jitterbug978]

Well im a bit of a noob right now to this whole adsense online marketing thing. I have been layed off from my current job and i have spent the last month working on two websites trying to make money from adsense with one and from an affiliate program with the other. I've downloaded and read about 5 different e-books from different forum members but im still not having much luck as far as profits are concerned.

So far I've made a pretty pathetic amount. My adsense income is like... $4.

When using the Google keyword tool.. say I search.. "Make Money online"..

I want keywords that have very low competition but still a high amount of searches right? Like 0% competition 1,000 searches?

OR will that result in very poor adsense earning per click on my adsense based sites?

You see Im under the influence that if I go to the highest competition keyword.. which might pay the most per click say.. $4.00, wouldnt there be a lot more sites listed on Google. Making it harder for me to get ranked on the front page, which could in the long run make me even less money? Because I could get to the front page of google with a keyword that gets me only $.19 per click and get hundreds of clicks because i get many many more visitors.

Or am is it possible somewhere along the line ive become really really confused and have no diea what im talking about.

[dv8]

Originally Posted by jitterbug978

When using the Google keyword tool.. say I search.. "Make Money online"..

I want keywords that have very low competition but still a high amount of searches right? Like 0% competition 1,000 searches?

OR will that result in very poor adsense earning per click on my adsense based sites?

You see Im under the influence that if I go to the highest competition keyword.. which might pay the most per click say.. $4.00, wouldnt there be a lot more sites listed on Google. Making it harder for me to get ranked on the front page, which could in the long run make me even less money? Because I could get to the front page of google with a keyword that gets me only $.19 per click and get hundreds of clicks because i get many many more visitors.

You can't go by the Google competition bar. I made that mistake. It's for AdWords as Jeremy123 pointed out.

[Fran_C]

This is a very interesting thread - I didn't know anyone yet who was concentrating
on adsense alone ... congratulations for focusing on a plan and sticking with it John,,,

That is probably what accounts for your success... consistency!

Fran

[Fran_C]

Originally Posted by jitterbug978

Well im a bit of a noob right now to this whole adsense online marketing thing. I have been layed off from my current job and i have spent the last month working on two websites trying to make money from adsense with one and from an affiliate program with the other. I've downloaded and read about 5 different e-books from different forum members but im still not having much luck as far as profits are concerned.

So far I've made a pretty pathetic amount. My adsense income is like... $4.

When using the Google keyword tool.. say I search.. "Make Money online"..

Hi,

"Make Money Online" is in a high competition field... If you read what John is doing, he
is working with product niches, products that people are searching for and the words
in those searches are the keywords we hope to nail down...

I know I've read a lot of books but I had to make myself concentrate on one thing at the
time to have some success... and that is what John is doing, he is focusing on adsense
and building his sites and inevitably picks up ideas and tips for improving or innovating as
he goes along.

Try to concentrate on a plan and write down every idea you get or stuff you read as it
relates to your plan... come back to the forum and get some more ideas... you will start
getting some results.

It's tough when you're out of a job... I wish you good luck

Fran

[LeeMasterson]

John, this thread is eye-opening. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience here. I understand now I'm trying to spread myself too thin. I need to get back to focusing on what I do best and stop trying to dabble in everything at the same time.

Thanks

[bigbyte]

Think outside the box. Go away from the big ticket items. Go to Home Depot or Bad Bath & Beyond or Walmart. Take a notepad. Spend some time writing down products (product groups) - preferrably at the bottom or top of a shelf.

Here is an example: female thinning hair

There is a decent number of searches for this term + 781,000 search results in Google. Not a perfect match, but doable to get onto page #1 fairly easy.

femalethinninghair.net is available for registration. The "dot com" has only 3 pages indexed.

I am not saying this is a perfect example, but it shows you a good approach to get away from the main stream. Think about your last job. What area was that in? Anything very specific that is not mainstream?

Another example:

Domain: lefthandedpresidents.com

Search Term: left handed presidents

You can write about presidents in general and left handed presidents.

Disclaimer: the 2 examples are really just examples and not perfect matches. Think outside the box and you can discover many hidden niches and dominate them.

Chris

Originally Posted by jitterbug978

Well im a bit of a noob right now to this whole adsense online marketing thing. I have been layed off from my current job and i have spent the last month working on two websites trying to make money from adsense with one and from an affiliate program with the other. I've downloaded and read about 5 different e-books from different forum members but im still not having much luck as far as profits are concerned.

So far I've made a pretty pathetic amount. My adsense income is like... $4.

When using the Google keyword tool.. say I search.. "Make Money online"..

I want keywords that have very low competition but still a high amount of searches right? Like 0% competition 1,000 searches?

OR will that result in very poor adsense earning per click on my adsense based sites?

You see Im under the influence that if I go to the highest competition keyword.. which might pay the most per click say.. $4.00, wouldnt there be a lot more sites listed on Google. Making it harder for me to get ranked on the front page, which could in the long run make me even less money? Because I could get to the front page of google with a keyword that gets me only $.19 per click and get hundreds of clicks because i get many many more visitors.

Or am is it possible somewhere along the line ive become really really confused and have no diea what im talking about.

[Diana Lane]

Originally Posted by bigbyte

Another example:

Domain: lefthandedpresidents.com

Search Term: left handed presidents

You can write about presidents in general and left handed presidents.
Chris

Don't forget your target market - it's important to have some idea of who's buying these left handed presidents

[kkrueger]

I love the idea about the top and bottom shelf. Those are the less competitive areas from a marketing perspective...but they are still important. Those are your niches.

I never even thought to think of it from that aspect! Thanks Bigbyte for the insight. This thread has been awesome!

Karen

[bigbyte]

Originally Posted by Diana Lane

Don't forget your target market - it's important to have some idea of who's buying these left handed presidents

You're not selling anything. You only provide information. You are trying to make money from Adsense ...

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by beamer1959

John, I just wanted to thank you and let you know that I took what you've said here and repositioned the Adsense on some of my blogs and added it to the ones that didn't already have it. I haven't made much yet, but I have consistently made Adsense money for the last 5 days. I hadn't made 5 days worth of adsense money TOTAL before this. So I thank you very much for all the advice. This has to be one of the best warrior threads I've ever followed!

BTW, I've been sending the link to this thread to all my friends, too, so who knows how many people you've helped!

I'm so happy to have helped you. Now the only thing you have to do is
take action each and every day.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by Jeremy123

Hi John,

In your course could you include what sort of content do you
put on your home page.

Yes I actually put up several example niche sites, with the content
and the resources for that content.

Also, just curious, what caused you to change from building
your large pet site to mini sites.

Mini sites are easy to rank for and earn passive income because
there it's very easy to dominate rankings for stuff like blow dryers,
shelving units, glass pots, nail polish, floor mats, hammers, stair
railings, air conditioners, faucets, etc.

what caused you to change from wordtracker to google there is some controversy as to google's search count being inflated.

Mostly because I started using Micro Niche Finder, which gets its info
from the Google Search Count. Plus wordtracker just seemed
"off" after using it for so long.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by dv8

Any tips on keyword research?

I downloaded a free trail of SEnuke so now I can do it the right way and check competition. But after 30 minutes of searching for a niche, I haven't really come close to anything.

It seems to be either or....high competition/high searches or no competition but not enough searches ot justify persuing.

Any tips or is that just the way it is...keep looking until you stumble on something? I don't expect to stumble on a great niche in two minutes, but so far I am getting nowhere.

I would advise you to start a new thread about SENuke. I do not use
this tool, and starting a new thread would be ideal for your needs.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by jitterbug978

Well im a bit of a noob right now to this whole adsense online marketing thing. I have been layed off from my current job and i have spent the last month working on two websites trying to make money from adsense with one and from an affiliate program with the other. I've downloaded and read about 5 different e-books from different forum members but im still not having much luck as far as profits are concerned.

So far I've made a pretty pathetic amount. My adsense income is like... $4.

When using the Google keyword tool.. say I search.. "Make Money online"..

I want keywords that have very low competition but still a high amount of searches right? Like 0% competition 1,000 searches?

OR will that result in very poor adsense earning per click on my adsense based sites?

You see Im under the influence that if I go to the highest competition keyword.. which might pay the most per click say.. $4.00, wouldnt there be a lot more sites listed on Google. Making it harder for me to get ranked on the front page, which could in the long run make me even less money? Because I could get to the front page of google with a keyword that gets me only $.19 per click and get hundreds of clicks because i get many many more visitors.

Or am is it possible somewhere along the line ive become really really confused and have no diea what im talking about.

Wow, your even confusing me with your questions

First of all, there are many different approaches to Adsense. I have just
found the simplest and easiest approach for passive income that works
for me, and will work for you too.

However...

1) You need to relax, and dump your brain from all of the info that you
have read.

2) Start from scratch, reread this thread and take notes.

3) Keep it simple: Brainstorm products in your keyword tool, find a keyword
that gets a decent amount of searches and low competition (don't forget
to check PR and SOC of the leading sites), then build your site.

4) Use article marketing. It's free, simple, and you are publishing info that
could lead ongoing backlinks and traffic to your sites for years to come.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by bigbyte

Think outside the box. Go away from the big ticket items. Go to Home Depot or Bad Bath & Beyond or Walmart. Take a notepad. Spend some time writing down products (product groups) - preferrably at the bottom or top of a shelf.

This is very good advice. The best niches are ideas you will get from just
going to the store.

Some of the most awful and confusing advice I've read are e-books trying
to make "finding Adsense niches" so mind-boggling.

It's not.

Step 1: Go to the store, walk downtown, or the mall.

Step 2: Write down at least 100 products you see.

Step 3: Use your keyword tool to find ideal numbers (as discussed in this thread).

Build site, promote, promote, promote. Then start again on another site.

- John

[Bounderby]

Originally Posted by bigbyte

You're not selling anything. You only provide information. You are trying to make money from Adsense ...

I think what is being gotten at here, is rather who is paying to place Ads for left-handed presidents at what price. Your site might be a great info site, but the product ultimately wants to be saleable otherwise who is advertising it? Somewhere down the chain, people are paying for Ads for people to click to buy something or pay some money for something.
I could be wrong, but it's logical to me.

[Diana Lane]

Originally Posted by Bounderby

I think what is being gotten at here, is rather who is paying to place Ads for left-handed presidents at what price. Your site might be a great info site, but the product ultimately wants to be saleable otherwise who is advertising it? Somewhere down the chain, people are paying for Ads for people to click to buy something or pay some money for something.
I could be wrong, but it's logical to me.

My thoughts exactly. I'm happy to leave the market for left handed presidents to the people who think it's worth pursuing

[bigbyte]

Originally Posted by Bounderby

I think what is being gotten at here, is rather who is paying to place Ads for left-handed presidents at what price. Your site might be a great info site, but the product ultimately wants to be saleable otherwise who is advertising it? Somewhere down the chain, people are paying for Ads for people to click to buy something or pay some money for something.
I could be wrong, but it's logical to me.

Please read my posting again. I said it is an example and probably not a perfect match. Do a google search and find some sites that write about presidency. You will find tons of advertisers on those. Think outside the box. Think polls and political surveys. I am also a Google Adwords advertiser and did run these ads - especially during the election. There is a ton of money going into those ads.

But again, don't pick this one example and run it into the ground. It is an example and shall just show how to get away from all the normal stuff. You do not want competition, you want searches that scale well and that allow you to dominate the SERPS.

Chris

[JasonC.biz]

Right - people have to be paying for AdWords for AdSense ads to show up on your site. So, there generally has to be a product or service for sale somewhere along the line.

People don't pay for AdWords for nothing.

Jason

[bigbyte]

Originally Posted by JasonC.biz

Right - people have to be paying for AdWords for AdSense ads to show up on your site. So, there generally has to be a product or service for sale somewhere along the line.

People don't pay for AdWords for nothing.

Jason

Our postings might have overlapped. Please read my reply just before you made your posting.

Chris

[JasonC.biz]

I read it.

I wasn't necessarily picking on your example, but using it as an opportunity to tell people (especially newbies) that they should make sure there are AdWords running before they pour a lot of effort into a site.

To my knowledge, if there are no AdWords running in the SERPs, then there's a good chance there either won't be any for content sites, or that they'll be pretty low-paying.

Now, of course there could very well be people out there who are only on the content network. But, it seems to me to be a safer bet to find niches where ads show up in the SERPs, as there are thousands of them.

Jason

[BryanB55]

The problem I'm having is researching a niche and trying to decide to use broad match or exact match. I've found some great results with broad match but when I switch to exact match the search volume drops a lot.

Any tips from someone using Market Samurai?

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by bigbyte

Please read my posting again. I said it is an example and probably not a perfect match. Do a google search and find some sites that write about presidency. You will find tons of advertisers on those. Think outside the box. Think polls and political surveys. I am also a Google Adwords advertiser and did run these ads - especially during the election. There is a ton of money going into those ads.

But again, don't pick this one example and run it into the ground. It is an example and shall just show how to get away from all the normal stuff. You do not want competition, you want searches that scale well and that allow you to dominate the SERPS.

Chris

Actually, Chris has a good point:

1) You can still make a ton of cash from keywords that may not be
product-based, but have a lot of people searching for them.

2) Even if there is nobody bidding on that term, Adsense Ads will still
be served up.

3) The CTR may not be high, but these Ads will still peak the interest
of some individuals landing on your site.

- John

[madmagician]

John how's the WSO coming along? I'm ready to open it up!

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by madmagician

John how's the WSO coming along? I'm ready to open it up!

As I mentioned on a previous page in this thread, please email or PM me
privately about my course.

I do not want to disrespect the rules of the forum (no self-promotion),
and lose this thread.

- John
xfactorpublishing (at) gmail.com

[jfLip]

That's awesome.

[Jeremy123]

Hi John,

Been having a frustrating time with keyword research tools of late.
I used to use wordtracker years ago, worked fine, today it seems to do
the same thing as always. Don't know why people don't like it as much today.

MNF uses Google's search count results, from all the sites you have now,
how accurate are Google's monthly search counts as compared to the traffic you
get when you have a top 3 ranking.

Hope you can give me some insight, I've become to distracted researching keyword research tools, instead of adding articles and getting links.

thanks

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by Jeremy123

Hi John,

Been having a frustrating time with keyword research tools of late.
I used to use wordtracker years ago, worked fine, today it seems to do
the same thing as always. Don't know why people don't like it as much today.

MNF uses Google's search count results, from all the sites you have now,
how accurate are Google's monthly search counts as compared to the traffic you
get when you have a top 3 ranking.

Hope you can give me some insight, I've become to distracted researching keyword research tools, instead of adding articles and getting links.

thanks

No tool is accurate, so don't too frustrated with the search engine
game (because it is a game afterall)

Some keywords pan out great. Others don't.

- John

[dv8]

Originally Posted by XFactor

I would advise you to start a new thread about SENuke. I do not use
this tool, and starting a new thread would be ideal for your needs.

- John

I may have worded it wrong...I meant is there a certain way to search for niches regardless of what tool one uses? I didn't mean in regards to just SEnuke, any tool.

Like I said, I have spent a good amount of time and haven't come up with much. I was wondering if there is a method I should follow or is it basically "just keep looking until you come across something"?

Seems the best method is what has been talked about....go to the store and write down a bunch of items. Then use the keyword tool. And you either get a niche that works or you don't.

[Drikus Botha]

Hello John, I was just wondering, after you build a new site, do you just start to submit articles that point to your site and let the search engines find your site themselves or do you use other means to let the search engines know about the new site.

Thanks,

[jeswarrior]

For the newbies. If you are targeting the niches posted by John or food related equipment, probably you are bound to fail at some point. A ton of people are getting on this bandwagon now. Adsense cpc will get stretched thin and keyword searches are not enough to share between so many sites. Forums are starting to link to this thread, WSOs will spring up by the truckload. Find other niches.

[lh1234]

would you agree John with what jeswarrior just said? I am a newbie and want to follow your system but is she right? Are there too many people on this bandwagon, will adsense be stretched too thin and k/words not enough to share between so many sites for the niches you've shared so far? Would be we better off branching out into new areas - still appliance related perhaps? thanks for any insight.

[Joshua.E1]

That was great! I will take note of your lessons learn and advise.

Thank you.

[game]

It is great, Thanks for share.

[Jeremy123]

there will always be profitable niches to find,
there are so many soc green keywords out there

people just have to be willing to find them and take action

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by dv8

I may have worded it wrong...I meant is there a certain way to search for niches regardless of what tool one uses? I didn't mean in regards to just SEnuke, any tool.

Like I said, I have spent a good amount of time and haven't come up with much. I was wondering if there is a method I should follow or is it basically "just keep looking until you come across something"?

Seems the best method is what has been talked about....go to the store and write down a bunch of items. Then use the keyword tool. And you either get a niche that works or you don't.

Well the thing here is that it's less about the "niche" and more about the
keyword.

You see, like I've discussed, your goal is to build small websites that are
based around products and can easily get ranked at the top of Google
for that specific keyword.

And in order for you to build a site with confidence, knowing that all of
the work you are going to put into marketing it will pay off, can only be
secured by knowing that the following combination of stats mixed
together all equal a profitable outcome:

1) How many competing websites there are.
2) How many of those competing websites have the main keyword
in the title only, URL, page, in anchor.
3) The highest ranking competing sites' competing PR and backlinks,
called the "SOC" (strength of competition).
4) And of course, the number of searches estimated.

Do You Really Want To Do This Manually?

I'll tell you right here and right now, I'm a bit of a dummy when it comes
to formulas and stats. I honestly would not know how in the world to
do all of the above manually, never mind trying to figure out if my results
would make a good keyword.

So the smart guys create keyword tools for dummies like me that
literally can push a button, and calculate all of that crap up an literally
tell you whether or not the keyword should be chased (with a little
common sense of course).

- John

[bigbyte]

Originally Posted by lh1234

would you agree John with what jeswarrior just said? I am a newbie and want to follow your system but is she right? Are there too many people on this bandwagon, will adsense be stretched too thin and k/words not enough to share between so many sites for the niches you've shared so far? Would be we better off branching out into new areas - still appliance related perhaps? thanks for any insight.

Not every niche/keyword will work out for you. Don't bet that every site you build has a build in homerun. But again, with good research you can discover tons of niches to work in with very little competition. Look around in your family and talk to friends. What bothers them? What is happening in their lifes? "Oh, John is painting the deck. What paint is he using?" Make a website about the best paint for a deck. Seasonal, but that does not matter in the end because you have to build several sites. What is the next season? Fall. What "falls" into fall? Leaves. Look at leave blowers and bags. Yes, small niche and seasonal, but use it as a learning experience, too.

These are just examples. Don't be afraid of competition. Many will try, many will fail, many will not follow through - even though there is a blue-print already in this thread. It requires to take action and it is not a get rich quick scheme. Somebody else will promise better returns and a new ecourse or ebook and the masses will follow the next guy.

[Jeremy123]

John,

the numbers SOC gives us allinanchor, allintitle, and allinurl
this refers to the top 10 sites competing with us

because for allinachor lets say it is 20 this is the number of sites
linking to the target site using the keyword in the anchor text

what I want to know is what is the target site, the 1st one
or the top 10

I asked MNF this but have not heard back yet, thought you might know.

thanks

[Hsekhar]

Congratulations, Now I should work hard and smart for my turn!