6 Months Later: $300 Daily w/Adsense (Lessons Learned)

[AllAboutAction]

Originally Posted by dv8

Hope this helps some of you guys. But of course none of it would be possible without all of the info John (and other contributors to this thread) have posted. So thanks to them.

Thanks for taking the time to post this. I wonder what it would look like if you made the size of each step relative to the average amount of time that step takes you.

According to John the backlinks have the most variance, but it would be interesting to take timing data from, say, doing 100 sites and weight the steps according to the resulting timings.

Also, while the backlinks have the most variance, and could conceivably be the biggest time sync of all, it also appears to be the easiest portion to do in parallel, and to outsource.

[dv8]

Originally Posted by AllAboutAction

Thanks for taking the time to post this.

You're welcome.

Originally Posted by AllAboutAction

I wonder what it would look like if you made the size of each step relative to the average amount of time that step takes you.

According to John the backlinks have the most variance, but it would be interesting to take timing data from, say, doing 100 sites and weight the steps according to the resulting timings.

Also, while the backlinks have the most variance, and could conceivably be the biggest time sync of all, it also appears to be the easiest portion to do in parallel, and to outsource.

I'm not sure I fully understand you. It is 5:18 in the morning here, so maybe that has something to do with it.

Are you saying to kind of do an 80/20 to the steps? See which ones give the most payoff for the least amount of time....or am I way off?

[terryd]

XFactor, I know you put your adsense code up straight away on your sites but do you put both adsense and amazon at the same time or is it always one or the other and not both?

[Dimebag]

Your model makes use of specific products, right? I am unsure as to how you are ranking above the manufacturer itself if you are using brand names ect as your keyphrases?

Thanks for the amazing insight so far

[Magy]

Hello,

First, i am sorry if i write like a child, but i am french, so i try to do my best, sorry for your

eyes
then, i must congrats you for the 300$/day! you work harder than me, that's certain lol.


Well, i have some adsense sites, im still a newbie in that. First time, i have bought some articles and i have started some websites in big markets, so, duplicate content and big competition > fail, the clicks i have on those sites come only from directories.

Then, i have started a wordpress blog about weight loss. I have selected a good keyword for the domain name, and 10 differents keywords with not so much competition, and with that, i wrote 1 page for every keyword (10 differents pages). Second try, well, it's better than before but not the paradise : some days, 0.50 cents, to 1.5 Euro luckys days (some days 0 too). That's for my little experience.
Every things i tried for now are in french, french markets/website/content.

I was not on the warrior forum for a moment now, but when i came and see your post, i got back some motivation to try again. I have read the 13 pages and now, i have a lost of questions before i start.

The first thing : with a product for keyword, i have always some online-shops websites and some websites that list the best prices for every online shops (i dont know how to say in english, we says
"comparateur de prix" in french.) I have a chance to be before those sites in google results?

Second one when i do a page about a product in amazon, amazon will always appear in results no?

Then, about niches, i still have problems. When you say, "i choose a keyword and i create some pages about that keyword it's like for exemple if : i select the niche "inox toaster" with a domain name like "inoxtoastersite_DOT_com and i create 4-5 pages like
1) The best inox toasters on the market
2) How to choose your inox toaster
3) How an inox toaster works
4) Why people like inox toasters?

then i creater others pages, like specific models of inox toaster,

The toaster philips hb45785568989,
etc.

Say me if i'm right with that thing or not please, it's the biggest thing that stop me to start working.

Thanks in advance, and good luck for the 1000$/day!

[jtwardy]

Read the entire thread - great insight - but I have a question - somewhere in the thread you mentioned that you wouldn't give out any urls because google could shut you down for violating there adsense rules. Now I understand about not giving out any urls just from keeping your "realestate" safe - but what rule(violation) could that trigger with google adsense? Thanks

[Rully]

I learned so much :-D thank you

[refa93]

"
6) Some of my sites only have 1 page of content, yet remain earning
$2 to $3 daily without any upkeep.
"

Very hard to beleive.

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by terryd

XFactor, I know you put your adsense code up straight away on your sites but do you put both adsense and amazon at the same time or is it always one or the other and not both?

1) I have Adsense code from the moment the site is launched.

2) I am now taking off all of my amazon links, just pure content with
no distractions from the Adsense Ads.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by Dimebag

Your model makes use of specific products, right? I am unsure as to how you are ranking above the manufacturer itself if you are using brand names ect as your keyphrases?

Thanks for the amazing insight so far

Again, this is another question that have different variables:

1) I don't always use a specific name-brand product, for example "high
mount ceiling fans" is not brand-specific.

2) There aren't always manufacturers listed for all of these keywords.

3) Even if the manufacturer's sites are listed, I'm very happy to sit in the
#3, #4, or #5 position and still earn a passive $75 to $150 per month.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by refa93

"
6) Some of my sites only have 1 page of content, yet remain earning
$2 to $3 daily without any upkeep.
"

Very hard to beleive.

It's actually quite easy.

Have you ever found a keyword that has only a few hundred competing
sites? These types of keywords only need 1 or two backlinks to sit in
the 1st page.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by jtwardy

Read the entire thread - great insight - but I have a question - somewhere in the thread you mentioned that you wouldn't give out any urls because google could shut you down for violating there adsense rules. Now I understand about not giving out any urls just from keeping your "realestate" safe - but what rule(violation) could that trigger with google adsense? Thanks

First let me say that my Adsense income is my Golden Goose that
I will never again in a million years risk having shut down (I've had
this possibility in the past from showing my URLs.)

Second, in addition to being click-bombed or having my niches taken
over, I would imagine that Google does not condone people specifically
telling people how to make money with their program. It's an oxymoron,
I know, but Google is weird like that.

So why risk it? I'm making too much money to tread the waters.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by Magy

Hello,

First, i am sorry if i write like a child, but i am french, so i try to do my best, sorry for your

eyes
then, i must congrats you for the 300$/day! you work harder than me, that's certain lol.


Well, i have some adsense sites, im still a newbie in that. First time, i have bought some articles and i have started some websites in big markets, so, duplicate content and big competition > fail, the clicks i have on those sites come only from directories.

Then, i have started a wordpress blog about weight loss. I have selected a good keyword for the domain name, and 10 differents keywords with not so much competition, and with that, i wrote 1 page for every keyword (10 differents pages). Second try, well, it's better than before but not the paradise : some days, 0.50 cents, to 1.5 Euro luckys days (some days 0 too). That's for my little experience.
Every things i tried for now are in french, french markets/website/content.

I was not on the warrior forum for a moment now, but when i came and see your post, i got back some motivation to try again. I have read the 13 pages and now, i have a lost of questions before i start.

The first thing : with a product for keyword, i have always some online-shops websites and some websites that list the best prices for every online shops (i dont know how to say in english, we says
"comparateur de prix" in french.) I have a chance to be before those sites in google results?

Second one when i do a page about a product in amazon, amazon will always appear in results no?

Then, about niches, i still have problems. When you say, "i choose a keyword and i create some pages about that keyword it's like for exemple if : i select the niche "inox toaster" with a domain name like "inoxtoastersite_DOT_com and i create 4-5 pages like
1) The best inox toasters on the market
2) How to choose your inox toaster
3) How an inox toaster works
4) Why people like inox toasters?

then i creater others pages, like specific models of inox toaster,

The toaster philips hb45785568989,
etc.

Say me if i'm right with that thing or not please, it's the biggest thing that stop me to start working.

Thanks in advance, and good luck for the 1000$/day!

Why not just do the best you can with your information, plus use my tips
as a guideline, and see what happens?

It's all in this thread, just go back over it and jump into the water with
your site.

- John

[Carl Pruitt]

Originally Posted by refa93

"
6) Some of my sites only have 1 page of content, yet remain earning
$2 to $3 daily without any upkeep.
"

Very hard to beleive.

Feel free not to believe it and to avoid using this strategy. The rest of us are very happy to have less competition.

[RaShon Wells]

I just finished setting up 24 sites with content and installed google analytics on all of them. A couple of the sites rank on the first page and is already receiving traffic with no backlinks or promotion.

I know will start creating articles and backlinks for all 24 sites. My goal is 100 dollars per day with these sites and I know that it is really possible. Will post some update when I start making money.

[angelah]

Originally Posted by Kael41

Great follow-up John! Like others have said, i wonder where you've been. One thing i'd loooove to emphasize that John is talking about, is that the keyword in the domain name is CRUCIAL. Overly so. I've got many sites, like John, that do well on:

1) Domain keyword name
2) keyword categories
3) Keyword 3-5% usage on the front page (with readability being the goal)
4) and keyword article usage for distribution.


Everything else is fluff. To also highlight what John is talking about, once you've done your due diligence on researching a niche based on SOC and other factors...build it! See how it performs and continue on. It's a numbers game friends, and if you don't play, you won't win

Hi Kael41,
Thanks for this information.

From what I understand in this thread, it is advised not to use the targeted keyword in the article a person writes, so the article doesn't outrank your website.

Could you please explain in a little more detail how you do the 'keyword article usage for distribution'?

Thanks
Angela

[dv8]

Originally Posted by angelah

Hi Kael41,
Thanks for this information.

From what I understand in this thread, it is advised not to use the targeted keyword in the article a person writes, so the article doesn't outrank your website.

Could you please explain in a little more detail how you do the 'keyword article usage for distribution'?

Thanks
Angela

He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he just means to use the keywords in the anchor text in the resource box.

Because, as you have read, you do not want your article ranking higher than your site. If it does, then people will obviously see the article first and may not even click on the link in your article to go to your site. No site visit, no adsense click.

[dv8]

Originally Posted by RaShon Wells

I just finished setting up 24 sites with content and installed google analytics on all of them. A couple of the sites rank on the first page and is already receiving traffic with no backlinks or promotion.

I know will start creating articles and backlinks for all 24 sites. My goal is 100 dollars per day with these sites and I know that it is really possible. Will post some update when I start making money.

24 sites?! Was this all recent? Or did you have some already made?

Are you using a static site or WP?

I'm thinking of switching to WP. I set up a static site a few days ago and Google still hasn't seen it. Submitted 2 articles to 5 directories each. Not all went through yet, so maybe I should just hold off until they do.

[RaShon Wells]

Originally Posted by dv8

24 sites?! Was this all recent? Or did you have some already made?

Are you using a static site or WP?

I'm thinking of switching to WP. I set up a static site a few days ago and Google still hasn't seen it. Submitted 2 articles to 5 directories each. Not all went through yet, so maybe I should just hold off until they do.

Yes this was recent I've been researching and writing content for the past 2 weeks. Even since I read this thread I've been taking massive action to make money with adsense. I already do pretty good with CB but adsense is a great passive income.

I am using wordpress since I find it easy to rank with those. I just added adsense to one of my sites and made $1.43 so far to day can't wait to add to the rest.

As far as indexing I have UAW and Linkvana so getting index was pretty easy. Thanks for making this thread it has helped me to take massive action throw mud at the wall and see what sticks. I already have 20 more domains I registered to add content to after I do those I will have 44 adsense sites!!

[dv8]

Originally Posted by RaShon Wells

Yes this was recent I've been researching and writing content for the past 2 weeks. Even since I read this thread I've been taking massive action to make money with adsense. I already do pretty good with CB but adsense is a great passive income.

I am using wordpress since I find it easy to rank with those. I just added adsense to one of my sites and made $1.43 so far to day can't wait to add to the rest.

As far as indexing I have UAW and Linkvana so getting index was pretty easy. Thanks for making this thread it has helped me to take massive action throw mud at the wall and see what sticks. I already have 20 more domains I registered to add content to after I do those I will have 44 adsense sites!!

Nice work!!

Keep it up and you'll be making some pretty decent money.

[RaShon Wells]

Originally Posted by dv8

Nice work!!

Keep it up and you'll be making some pretty decent money.

Thanks. The hardest part is not getting discouraged trying to promote all these sites. It is a big task but im up for it.

[dv8]

Originally Posted by RaShon Wells

Thanks. The hardest part is not getting discouraged trying to promote all these sites. It is a big task but im up for it.

Yeah, I submitted 10 articles in the past 2 days. Nothing complicated about it, just no fun at all!! So repetitive. Definitely going to be buying software to help with this in the near future.

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by dv8

I set up a static site a few days ago and Google still hasn't seen it.

Try Pingler and social bookmarking to get your static site indexed.

[dv8]

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

Try Pingler and social bookmarking to get your static site indexed.

Thanks. I used onlywire for the bookmarking. I'll give this a try as well for the pinging.

[jtwardy]

I'm not suggesting you give out any more information than you already have - just trying to find out the rules as a newbie so I don't get blindsided by google - thanks.

[mrrichesinniches]

All of you guys who are using WP for your adsense sites what theme or template are you using? Alot of people seem to recommend prosense by doshdosh but it doesn't want to work on WP 2.8.

[D3t0x]

Originally Posted by RaShon Wells

I just finished setting up 24 sites with content and installed google analytics on all of them. A couple of the sites rank on the first page and is already receiving traffic with no backlinks or promotion.

I know will start creating articles and backlinks for all 24 sites. My goal is 100 dollars per day with these sites and I know that it is really possible. Will post some update when I start making money.

Damn man that's a lot of sites to do at once. I plan to eventually get up to 50 sites but I am going to only do patches of 5-10 at a time so I don't get discouraged and can stay focused on getting them up 1 at a time.

[mayapearl]

Great info, I was wondering whether it is best to concentrate on one main site as opposed to having many individual blogs. I am so new at this that my head spins with conflicting information. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[RaShon Wells]

Well in my case since I am using the KW sniping technique to build sites I am targeting multiple sites. I am able to target so many sites because I have the resource to outsource a lot of the tedious link building.

Today I had 84 visits total from all 24 of my sites. I say this is pretty good being though I have not built one link to any of them yet and only 3 of them rank on the first page. I also made close to 2 dollars today with adsense and only put adsense on 1 blog.

Thanks to this thread I have taking massive action now its your turn!

[Razorblade]

Originally Posted by RaShon Wells

Well in my case since I am using the KW sniping technique...

Can you elaborate a little more on this technique, RaShon Wells? Are you referring to Micro Niche Finder or some other software?

[dv8]

Originally Posted by mayapearl

Great info, I was wondering whether it is best to concentrate on one main site as opposed to having many individual blogs. I am so new at this that my head spins with conflicting information. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

This has been talked about MANY times.

Many sites instead of just one.

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by dv8

This has been talked about MANY times.

Many sites instead of just one.

Or just one can work too...

[XFactor]

Guys..... Gals... EVERYTHING WORKS...

You just have to find a daily work schedule that makes you
happy.

I am moving to Hawaii in the next 10 months, and the one
spiritual movement that transcends into reality with Adsense is
this: Do what matters....

...TO YOU...

[azagon]

I totally agree with "doing what matters to you"... oh and stay focused. There are a million other things you could be doing instead of the steps laid out in this thread.

Things I've learnt from this thread so far are...

1. You can host unlimited domains on 1 hosting account - Saved me $1000 a year already.
2. Grey Text and Black Hyper link - Increased CTR of about 1% on one of my adsense sites in the last few days (Gold Hyperlink and Black Text Works well for me too).
3. Namecheap.com is offering free Whoisguard (Private Whois reg) at the time of this post. They also seem to be the best all round domain provider (From all the posts I've read on WF)
4. dv8's Mindmap should be sold for at least $27 on CB.
5. Micro Niche Finder was a good investment (Been using for about a week with very good results).

I'm making average around $20 a day from adsense using techniques similar to John's and that's only with a handful of sites. So I know this stuff works and if I get more focused, more passive income will roll in. Keep up the great (informative) posts!

Cheers

Adrian

[SoundsGood]

XFactor, how do you handle (and suggest) inter-linking of your sites?:

1. Link your sites together in a string (site A links to site B, site B links to site C, site C links to site D).
2. Link several sites to just one (sites A, B and C link to site D).
3. Use either #1 or #2 above, but only link similar topic sites.
4. Do not link ANY of your sites to ANY of your other sites.

Also, (this one is purely curiosity) why do you use Reseller hosting plans as opposed to regular shared plans?

Thanks...

[clickbump]

He doesn't link his sites. Each site is built with no exit route other than adsense.

His sites consist of appx 10-12 pages: home page, ~5 to 7 sub pages, then 4 boilerplate pages (Terms & Conditions, Privacy Statement, Contact Us, Sitemap)

The site blueprint is a two column layout as follows:

Left column:
Page title in H1 headings
Adsense Block (336x280) grey text, blue links, domain name in black.
Content (appx 5-10 paragraphs of text, no images, no links)

Right Column:
Site subject image to the right of the heading (appx 170x113)
Site menu with articles and boilerplate pages in a list (site menu usually has an image labeled "'sitename' articles" as a header.

[loybond]

I'm moving there for the winter too!

Originally Posted by XFactor

Guys..... Gals... EVERYTHING WORKS...

You just have to find a daily work schedule that makes you
happy.

I am moving to Hawaii in the next 10 months, and the one
spiritual movement that transcends into reality with Adsense is
this: Do what matters....

...TO YOU...

[dv8]

Originally Posted by azagon

4. dv8's Mindmap should be sold for at least $27 on CB.

Haha, I'll get right on that.

Originally Posted by azagon

I'm making average around $20 a day from adsense using techniques similar to John's and that's only with a handful of sites. So I know this stuff works and if I get more focused, more passive income will roll in. Keep up the great (informative) posts!

Cheers

Adrian

Nice work!!

I've got one site up but Google still hasn't found it, it's been a good 4-5 days. And I have submitted articles and pinged the site. Thinking of starting another site but using WP. Never had problems getting them indexed. Gonna get working on that today.

[dv8]

Thanks to this thread, I have come across a keyword phrase that according to Google keyword tool got over 40,000 exact searches last month. And the #1 spot is pathetic, to say the least.

Off to buy a domain...

[Paul Kramer]

Man, how do you find time to write so many articles???

[dv8]

Originally Posted by Paul Kramer

Man, how do you find time to write so many articles???

"There is no shortage of time, only a confusion of priorities."

[iwebtopia]

John,

Great stuff you are providing here and I am learning a lot! Now I just need to do something and so I have a quick question and apologize in advance if already asked (I didn't run across it anywhere).

I am technically-challenged and don't know the first thing on how to set up a website or wordpress blog, but do understand basics of setting up blogger blogs.

So if all I want to do is just get "started" and even if I make $1 that's fine by me, so can this work with blogger blogs? Also I should mention the need to use blogger blogs is because they are free and right now I am flat broke and maxxed-out on credit cards and can't afford to buy domains or hosting. I just want to get a little something going and so any advice appreciated!

Thank you and have a nice day,

[internetmarketer99]

Hey John,

Here's a question I hope you can help with:

I'm setting up a product-centric site, based on an appliance type. For illustration's sake, we'll say "coffee makers".

I've found a great set of keywords revolving around 4-5 different coffee maker brands. I've purchased a domain name that covers one of the root keywords, "coffeemakerstop.com" (example).

The keywords, for illustration purposes, include:

mr coffee drip machine
mr coffee filters
carafe for mr coffee
mr coffee reviews

sunbeam drip coffee maker
sunbeam coffee maker reviews
top sunbeam coffee makers

braun drip coffee maker
braun coffee maker filters


Each keyword group has a combined daily search volume around 750, with each having only a few hundred to a few thousand competing pages.

Using Xsitepro, I had planned on having a few top-level menu entries:

Mr. Coffee Drip Coffee Maker
Sunbeam Drip Coffee Maker
Braun Drip Coffee Maker

with each menu going to an appropriate sub-page:

mr coffee drip machine
mr coffee filters
carafe for mr coffee
mr coffee reviews

etc.

My question is, in your experience, does a single-product-specific flat site work better than something like the above?

Thanks for your thoughts, and for all your generous insight on this thread.

Mark

[BryanB55]

Does anyone have any experience with sites such as walmart, target, yahoo answers, nexttag and cnet?

If they have internal pages indexed are they difficult to outrank or easier? At first I was under the impression that they were difficult but now I've seen that amazon ranking at the top is generally a good sign.

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by SoundsGood

XFactor, how do you handle (and suggest) inter-linking of your sites?:

1. Link your sites together in a string (site A links to site B, site B links to site C, site C links to site D).
2. Link several sites to just one (sites A, B and C link to site D).
3. Use either #1 or #2 above, but only link similar topic sites.
4. Do not link ANY of your sites to ANY of your other sites.

Also, (this one is purely curiosity) why do you use Reseller hosting plans as opposed to regular shared plans?

Thanks...

I'm not quite sure what you mean. I do not link any of my sites together.

- John

[XFactor]

If you want to copy the site layout that I show in my upcoming
course then blogger will not work.

However, I'm pretty sure there are some wordpress designers that could
make a wordpress template in the same fashion.

Also, I too am technically challenged. And because of this I strongly
advise that you get XsitePro.

It's very easy to use.

- John

Originally Posted by iwebtopia

John,

Great stuff you are providing here and I am learning a lot! Now I just need to do something and so I have a quick question and apologize in advance if already asked (I didn't run across it anywhere).

I am technically-challenged and don't know the first thing on how to set up a website or wordpress blog, but do understand basics of setting up blogger blogs.

So if all I want to do is just get "started" and even if I make $1 that's fine by me, so can this work with blogger blogs? Also I should mention the need to use blogger blogs is because they are free and right now I am flat broke and maxxed-out on credit cards and can't afford to buy domains or hosting. I just want to get a little something going and so any advice appreciated!

Thank you and have a nice day,

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by internetmarketer99

Hey John,

Here's a question I hope you can help with:

I'm setting up a product-centric site, based on an appliance type. For illustration's sake, we'll say "coffee makers".

I've found a great set of keywords revolving around 4-5 different coffee maker brands. I've purchased a domain name that covers one of the root keywords, "coffeemakerstop.com" (example).

The keywords, for illustration purposes, include:

mr coffee drip machine
mr coffee filters
carafe for mr coffee
mr coffee reviews

sunbeam drip coffee maker
sunbeam coffee maker reviews
top sunbeam coffee makers

braun drip coffee maker
braun coffee maker filters


Each keyword group has a combined daily search volume around 750, with each having only a few hundred to a few thousand competing pages.

Using Xsitepro, I had planned on having a few top-level menu entries:

Mr. Coffee Drip Coffee Maker
Sunbeam Drip Coffee Maker
Braun Drip Coffee Maker

with each menu going to an appropriate sub-page:

mr coffee drip machine
mr coffee filters
carafe for mr coffee
mr coffee reviews

etc.

My question is, in your experience, does a single-product-specific flat site work better than something like the above?

Thanks for your thoughts, and for all your generous insight on this thread.

Mark

I like the way you planned this out. And I do believe that this can work
just as well (I'm actually doing one site like this too, because I found
just too many good keywords in the same sub-niche).

Give it a go and put enough work into it so that all of your keywords
rank.

- John

[Jeremy123]

John,

In Google's TOS, it says not to make sites just for adsense,

is it a good idea to take off amazon links.

How many sites do you have by now.

[terryd]

Is it better to have multiple Adsense units on the page (up to the maximum of 3) or is it better to have only one or two units so that the higher paying ads are shown instead of the lesser paying ads?

[SoundsGood]

XFactor, why do you use Reseller hosting plans as opposed to regular shared plans?

Thanks...