6 Months Later: $300 Daily w/Adsense (Lessons Learned)

[Magy]

damn, my first website is now indexed but not like i want...

with an addon domain i created for my niche website domain, i have in google results :

mymaindomain.info/thenichesitedomain.org/index.html...
my main domain is the domain that i choose when i got my hosting.
this one is not ready to be well ranked in SERPS

someone know what's my problem, if you do multipe websites, you use cpanel and addons domains too?

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by Marigold

Suppose I want to get the first three position for my 10 something keyword/category.
It will be a huge boost for my traffic.
What do I do?
I have a one year old site with my main keyword in the second position.
But I also want to be there for my other related keywords.
I have not tried article marketing.
So if I do article marketing do I back link with my related keyword as anchored text?
Marigold

Yes, that is what works for me: Submitting articles with your keyword
in the anchor text of the resource box.

(But nowhere else in the article)

- John

[EricGiguere]

Magy, you should be able to fix your problem with redirection directives in a .htaccess file at the root of your domain. See my blog post here for some instructions, look at the section "Prefixed with 'www' or not?", which also links to some other examples. Basically once you do this it will force anyone who comes into your domain without the "www.thenichesitedomain.org" as the root of the URL to be redirected to the proper URL.

[Magy]

Ok thanks Eric, do you think that google will change the url with the correct one when it's redirected? the site is not fully indexed now, only one page and not the same, i hope that will work.

[Bishop81]

I'm curious about the ways that some of you are figuring out your competition strength without using MNF. Are you checking the keywords in Google Adwords Keyword Tool, then searching Google for that exact phrase and finding the number of competing websites?

Is that basically what MNF does for you, only a lot faster?

[EricGiguere]

Originally Posted by Magy

Ok thanks Eric, do you think that google will change the url with the correct one when it's redirected? the site is not fully indexed now, only one page and not the same, i hope that will work.

Yes, Google is very good at tracking redirections and updating its site. Make sure you do a permanent redirect (301), which is what my examples do.

[EricGiguere]

Originally Posted by Bishop81

I'm curious about the ways that some of you are figuring out your competition strength without using MNF. Are you checking the keywords in Google Adwords Keyword Tool, then searching Google for that exact phrase and finding the number of competing websites?

Is that basically what MNF does for you, only a lot faster?

Yeah, although MNF has some other analysis. Mind you, I have my own tool for doing this that I've been thinking of making into a proper product... but it's a lot of work. Same basic idea, though: I download a spreadsheet of keywords from the AdWords Keyword Tool and my tool looks for keywords that match certain criteria, i.e. searches >= 3000, competing pages <= 10000, no PR 5+ pages, etc.

Eric

[stevendennis]

great things you done there ..thanks for posting nice informative post

[Magy]

Eric you are a genius it works!

In my main domain i have the 301 for each /folder to each http://www.
and in the different folders, the differents rules to rewrite from http:// to http://www. and addondomain.mydomain.com to addondomain.com, etc. Well, everything works correctly now, i will wait for google to reindex it correctly now.

Thanks a lot again Eric, i was pretty sad when i see that it was not indexed correctly. I am now confident and ready to work

[EricGiguere]

Glad I could help. Bonne chance!

[jbgal]

Originally Posted by EricGiguere

Magy, you should be able to fix your problem with redirection directives in a .htaccess file at the root of your domain. See my blog post here for some instructions, look at the section "Prefixed with 'www' or not?", which also links to some other examples. Basically once you do this it will force anyone who comes into your domain without the "www.thenichesitedomain.org" as the root of the URL to be redirected to the proper URL.

Eric,

Should this 301 redirect work for human visitors too, not just search engines? When I use Wordpress for my adsense sites, I just set it to use www in the general settings but not as easy in Dreamweaver/Xsitepro. I used your .htaccess file but when I typed http://mydomain.com in my browser, it did not redirect to http://www.mydomain.com like I wanted it to.

JB

[amerigo]

I am done waiting for the wso, i had about 20 domains I was going to use on it.
Since Xfactor is having trouble with the launch, i am going to go ahead and start launching the sites.

[D3t0x]

Originally Posted by amerigo

I am done waiting for the wso, i had about 20 domains I was going to use on it.
Since Xfactor is having trouble with the launch, i am going to go ahead and start launching the sites.

Yeah, that's what i've done with mine too. Couldn't wait any longer so I started a week ago.

[XFactor]

It's coming guys, should be posted tonight.

- John

[jspmedia]

Originally Posted by XFactor

It's coming guys, should be posted tonight.

- John

great..can't wait to see.

[Oling]

Welcome back John!
I have been hearing form you since your Adsense membership stuff. I learn too from your previous thread here about adsense and again now.

Thanks for sharing your new discoveries about how you use more websites to and make them to the top of Big G searches..

thanks again
Oling

[D3t0x]

I think that would take a long time to pass those other sites. Probably months. I've done it before with an old site of mine but it took forever.

I just found a niche with 27,100 searches, 5 SOC, and an Ezine Article on the first page.

I better jump on this one!

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by Riposte

Does anyone have any input on this? Has anyone gotten a .net or .org domain on the first page with little to no backlinks?

.

I have a .info ranking at #4 on first page for a term that is searched 22,000 times/day. May be five backlinks max (other than bookmarking)

[lonniewa2]

Well since the cat is out of the bag up until last week I had a .info ranking for # 4 & 5. It is not ranking #5 & 6.

[blogsy]

Originally Posted by reelfat

New thread title...

"6 Months Later: John Finishes His Adsense Course (Lessons Learned)



RF

Give the guy a break, the internet isn't going anywhere and better a good product than some of the half baked products that I have seen rushed to the market just to lock in a $ ... most wont do the work required anyway, so why the panic.

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by D3t0x

Yeah, that's what i've done with mine too. Couldn't wait any longer so I started a week ago.

Me three :-)

[madmagician]

Originally Posted by blogsy

Give the guy a break, the internet isn't going anywhere and better a good product than some of the half baked products that I have seen rushed to the market just to lock in a $ ... most wont do the work required anyway, so why the panic.

What panic? I'm just tired of seeing posts or getting emails that says "it'll be released on this date", only for that date to be passed several times. Like 5 hours ago a post that says "tonight". It's 10:30.

I don't mind waiting for a good product but to be let down on every release date sucks. IDC, I'm just glad he's made this thread.


Anyway to anyone waiting, just go start! That's some of the advice mentioned over and over in this thread.

[Mark McClure]

@MadMagician - lol - it's like waiting for Xmas ;-)
I agree with you that there's enough info in this thread alone to get started. I wonder how many would still delay if the course was unavailable for months? Carpe Diem!

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by reelfat

New thread title...

"6 Months Later: John Finishes His Adsense Course (Lessons Learned)



RF

A comedian in the house!

Listen guys, I am working my tail off on this course. Yes I know
that I have been saying "tomorrow" or "tonight", etc. and each
time I honestly think it will be ready.

Two days ago I had 6 chapters and 53 pages to wrap up.

Tonight I'm editing 8 chapters and around 90 pages.

Every time I go through the course I realize that there is another
little **important** item to add.

But really, I'm sitting on the finished product now, but the last thing
I can do is release something with information out of order, bad
spelling and grammar, etc.

And it is equally important for me to create a video to accompany
each chapter, especially when it is about my template and finding
niches.

There are just certain things that need to be said instead of written.

So yes, 2 or so weeks ago I did jump the gun and thought I was going
to put together a course in a couple of days.

However, I had no idea that once I poured open my brain that I was
really creating a long-term, kick-ass E-book and a members area that
will be constantly updated with new information and detailed answers
to questions that I open myself up to.

Wheeeew... I'm winded. Back to work

But seriously guys, anyone that does not want to participate in getting
the course at your early discount can surly let me know and we can
take care of it.

- John

[skytechhosting]

Nice Information john i have started 5 websites lets see soon ill post my sucess

[Zor Prime]

I was waiting around myself, doing niche research and this or that.

Picked up a couple domains and just jumping in. I've got the bare bones of a new site up using Drupal - I'll see how that goes. Learning experience since I've never used Drupal before but I figured why not try something new. I might end up just using XSPro2 which I have on hand if I want things to be quick and dirty, but hey who knows. I would prefer someone from Google taking a look and seeing some effort invested and throw me in the accepted column without thinking twice.

And when the finished product does come around, it'll be like Christmas and I can review what I've already done and get on what I should be doing.

John did say everything in the product is already laid out in this thread. If I get hard up enough I'll just review what already has been wrote.

The date might be delayed but every time the finished product is getting larger beyond what John anticipates. That's pretty cool, IMO, and added value. Am I frustrated, yes. But I've got stuff to do, so, I'll just get on my way. John is probably frustrated as much as everyone else, I would be. It's one of the projects you've done before where every corner there's some other damn thing that pops up that you need to handle. I can relate.

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by Zor Prime

I was waiting around myself, doing niche research and this or that.

Picked up a couple domains and just jumping in. I've got the bare bones of a new site up using Drupal - I'll see how that goes. Learning experience since I've never used Drupal before but I figured why not try something new. I might end up just using XSPro2 which I have on hand if I want things to be quick and dirty, but hey who knows. I would prefer someone from Google taking a look and seeing some effort invested and throw me in the accepted column without thinking twice.

And when the finished product does come around, it'll be like Christmas and I can review what I've already done and get on what I should be doing.

John did say everything in the product is already laid out in this thread. If I get hard up enough I'll just review what already has been wrote.

The date might be delayed but every time the finished product is getting larger beyond what John anticipates. That's pretty cool, IMO, and added value. Am I frustrated, yes. But I've got stuff to do, so, I'll just get on my way. John is probably frustrated as much as everyone else, I would be. It's one of the projects you've done before where every corner there's some other damn thing that pops up that you need to handle. I can relate.

Good one mate!
What took you so long to make your first post?

[Thomas Wilkinson]

John - Take your time - Get it right - Say what you want to say.
You've given away enough on this thread to keep me going for weeks,
maybe months.

Tom

[Zor Prime]

Originally Posted by Chucky

What took you so long to make your first post?

Guess I didn't really feel like saying anything until now. Hi btw!

[iwebtopia]

I don't know how to set up a website at all and so am stuck and can't get off starting block. I desperately need to start making some $$, even if just one dollar! Once I can set up a simple site and understand what I'm doing, then everything will be good. So looking forward to the course and I don't mind that it's taking longer. It will be worth it.

[EricGiguere]

Originally Posted by jbgal

Should this 301 redirect work for human visitors too, not just search engines? When I use Wordpress for my adsense sites, I just set it to use www in the general settings but not as easy in Dreamweaver/Xsitepro. I used your .htaccess file but when I typed http://mydomain.com in my browser, it did not redirect to http://www.mydomain.com like I wanted it to.

301 redirects absolutely work for humans as well. It's what websites use when they move pages around to make sure that visitors who come in via old links still get to the right page.

The .htaccess examples I gave on my blog definitely work, so there must be something in your setup that's not working.

[runner]

Looks like a clear strategy for AdSense earnings.
But how you can reach high PR without a battery of backlinks?
Hmmm...

Actually you are saying that your templates
convert extremely well, right?

[Si_P]

Can anyone tell me realistically how long Google takes to index sites?

I have had my first adsense site up and going since Wednesday (5 days), I have 9 pages, 20 backlinks (not from main keyword articles), I have submitted the sitemap and main URL to Google but none of my pages are yet indexed. I am holding off doing any social bookmarking as i dont want to risk outranking my main URL

I am either very impatient or just too eager as I wanted just to use this site to test the water and see if i can really make the first page for my main keyword.

Anyone got advice to get indexed quicker??

Thanks,
Si

[terryd]

Originally Posted by Si_P

Can anyone tell me realistically how long Google takes to index sites?

I have had my first adsense site up and going since Wednesday (5 days), I have 9 pages, 20 backlinks (not from main keyword articles), I have submitted the sitemap and main URL to Google but none of my pages are yet indexed. I am holding off doing any social bookmarking as i dont want to risk outranking my main URL

I am either very impatient or just too eager as I wanted just to use this site to test the water and see if i can really make the first page for my main keyword.

Anyone got advice to get indexed quicker??

Thanks,
Si

Most of my sites seem to get indexed and ranking in a day or less. In fact I just finished off one of these sites this morning and it's already at #7 with just RSS submission.

[msalada]

Woedpress usually indexes within 2 days. Normally less. If you submit an article to EZA with a link back to the site or submit the site to an RSS feed directory, this can sometimes speed up the indexing process.

~Marj

[internetmarketer99]

Si,

It can vary widely, from a day or two to many weeks. 5 days is not terribly unusual.

Things you can do to help:

Submit your sitemap
Submit pages to Digg
Social Bookmark pages
Submit a RSS feed to aggregators
Ping your pages (pingoat.com, pingomatic.com)

Mark

[SoundsGood]

Originally Posted by reelfat

New thread title...

"6 Months Later: John Finishes His Adsense Course (Lessons Learned)

Now this is funny. I love it.

[SoundsGood]

Originally Posted by XFactor

However, I had no idea that once I poured open my brain that I was really creating a long-term, kick-ass E-book and a members area that will be constantly updated with new information and detailed answers to questions that I open myself up to.

Pheww, it's a good thing self-promotion is not allowed here.

kidding, jussst kidding...

[BrightLife]

Originally Posted by XFactor

A comedian in the house!

Listen guys, I am working my tail off on this course. Yes I know
that I have been saying "tomorrow" or "tonight", etc. and each
time I honestly think it will be ready.

Two days ago I had 6 chapters and 53 pages to wrap up.

Tonight I'm editing 8 chapters and around 90 pages.

Every time I go through the course I realize that there is another
little **important** item to add.

But really, I'm sitting on the finished product now, but the last thing
I can do is release something with information out of order, bad
spelling and grammar, etc.

And it is equally important for me to create a video to accompany
each chapter, especially when it is about my template and finding
niches.

There are just certain things that need to be said instead of written.

So yes, 2 or so weeks ago I did jump the gun and thought I was going
to put together a course in a couple of days.

However, I had no idea that once I poured open my brain that I was
really creating a long-term, kick-ass E-book and a members area that
will be constantly updated with new information and detailed answers
to questions that I open myself up to.

Wheeeew... I'm winded. Back to work

But seriously guys, anyone that does not want to participate in getting
the course at your early discount can surly let me know and we can
take care of it.

- John

Hi John,

you should remember that you sent us a mail for your course on a Friday weeks ago that you gave the material to a beta tester and that we should have it on the following Monday. Since then we got 2 or 3 mails from you with the next dates that all exploded. Every time I see a sign of life from you I read that you are nearly done. I gave up wondering what is going with you, but something isn´t right. I mean, when you started to announce the course did you have nothing? And after getting the first money you began to work?

[Si_P]

Originally Posted by msalada

Woedpress usually indexes within 2 days. Normally less. If you submit an article to EZA with a link back to the site or submit the site to an RSS feed directory, this can sometimes speed up the indexing process.

~Marj

Ive just realised that EZA still havent approved my articles. I am Platinum level but for some reason they are taking longer than 48hours!

[Si_P]

Originally Posted by internetmarketer99

Si,

It can vary widely, from a day or two to many weeks. 5 days is not terribly unusual.

Things you can do to help:

Submit your sitemap
Submit pages to Digg
Social Bookmark pages
Submit a RSS feed to aggregators
Ping your pages (pingoat.com, pingomatic.com)

Mark

I am running Wordpress but as you mentioned it pinging, i had actually deleted my ping list during my site development and forgot to add it back in. Silly Si!

Can you recommend any top RSS aggregators?

[internetmarketer99]

Si,

I'm PM'ing you a link for the RSS list I use. Drop it into "Update Services" (under Settings/Writing).

Mark

[EricGiguere]

Originally Posted by BrightLife

you should remember that you sent us a mail for your course on a Friday weeks ago that you gave the material to a beta tester and that we should have it on the following Monday. Since then we got 2 or 3 mails from you with the next dates that all exploded. Every time I see a sign of life from you I read that you are nearly done. I gave up wondering what is going with you, but something isn´t right. I mean, when you started to announce the course did you have nothing? And after getting the first money you began to work?

Speaking as someone who's been down the path that John is on, I can assure you that delays in creating and putting up material for a new product are quite normal when you're a one-person operation doing other things. Life often interferes, trust me, and you end up having way less time than you thought to work on things, plus inevitably it takes longer than you thought it would in the first place, so it's a double-whammy.

Pre-announcing a product is a good way to see if there's actually any interest in it, but it has the unfortunate side effect of making things harder when you miss your own self-imposed deadlines.

All I can say is to be patient.

[remodeler]

Originally Posted by Si_P

Ive just realised that EZA still havent approved my articles. I am Platinum level but for some reason they are taking longer than 48hours!

It happens. I've been submitting to them for years and some days you can get approved in just a few hours, while other times it can take 5 days. But it all works out in the end.

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by Si_P

I am holding off doing any social bookmarking as i dont want to risk outranking my main URL

Si

Hey Si,

Can you pls elaborate what you're saying here? Are you saying that you will bookmark internal pages and not the home page so that it looks more natural? And if you do bookmark the internal pages, there's threat that it/they will outrank the home page? Is that what you're saying?

I just experienced that. One of my homepages (let's say HomeTheaterSystems.com) were ranking on something like page 5-7 for the kw home theater systems. Then I built links for a internal page from Angela's packet. The page was something like Philips Home Theater Systems. Now the homepage is there no more! And neither is the philips page (which was never ranked in the top 10 pages anyways). Don't know if it's the Google dance or something like what you're talking about.

Anybody?
Thanks!
Chucky

[Si_P]

Originally Posted by internetmarketer99

Si,

I'm PM'ing you a link for the RSS list I use. Drop it into "Update Services" (under Settings/Writing).

Mark

Mark thanks, i received it and have updated my ping list.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

John,

This thread has enormous value for me (along with one by Mark-internetmarketer99). I have literally copied several posts into a Word document, printed them out and put them in my Adsense study binder. I have learned more about getting real results from Adsense from these 2 threads than I have from studying several formal courses.

Or maybe the knowledge is accruing... At any rate, these 2 threads killed dead some frustrating issues I was having.

Also, your tip on using the anchor text only in the resource box on Ezine articles (not using the main keyword in the rest of the article in order to avoid competition between the site being promoted and the article) was one of those priceless "Why didn't I think of that?" gems.

I have already had good results from putting only one block of Adsense code between the header and the content before I read this thread. I did it because it seemed like a good idea and my conversions increased. But I have never seen anyone come out and say this is one of the best ways, so there was always a doubt lingering in the back of my mind that maybe I have been missing something.

About your delays, I say take all the time you need. Just make a kick-ass product. Once that happens, all the people who are complaining will go silent and no one will remember the inconvenience after a very short time. But they will talk about the product.

As a positive result from the dark side, a delay controversy like the present one is great build-up for promotion. You will probably get more initial sales from it.



Michael

[glencumbie]

Thanks John.. great information. I am still a bit of a newbie when it comes to Adsense, however have spent the last 3 months off and on, trying to figure out why I cannot get clicks on Adsense For Feeds. I have watched video after video and still cannot get a click to save my life. This after over 10,000 impressions.. you would think I would get at least one. I have checked and double and triple checked to make sure I am doing it right, and I must be messing up somewhere. Am I understanding correctly that after redirect on lets say Blogger, that the landing page would be the blog itself (placed into the site field), or should the landing page be Feedburner itself? Found I think under optimize. Sorry for so many questions but this has been a huge time consumer that I feel very close in figuring out. Anyone have any suggestions? Training videos? I am needing an expert in the Adsense For Feeds field.. is it okay to reach out? Thank you all in advance for any help. Glen

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by glencumbie

I am needing an expert in the Adsense For Feeds field..

RSS feed readers aren't buyers, they're information and entertainment seekers. Adsense needs targeted buyers to work well.

[azagon]

John's Adsense Course should just be this thread copy and pasted to a pdf file. Everything is in these pages folks, and the info here is worth $1000s to the folks who sit back, grab a coffee and soak it in.

If you can't wait around for an eBook, where will you find the patience to wait for your site/s to start making money? eh?

Cause it's gonna take time.. a whole lotta precious time (I can hear George Harrison...) before you see results with any new site.

But I do have another question...

With Adsenses new sizes, what size and font do you usually use John?

I don't think this has been asked.

I'm using Arial and Small on most of my ads with fairly good CTR. But just wondering if there is a size and font that works good / better for you?

Cheers

Adrian