6 Months Later: $300 Daily w/Adsense (Lessons Learned)

[bigbyte]

For those that use Wordpress, take a look at the Thesis Theme. You can easily modify it to match John's template with a few clicks and a small custom file for the colors. It's well worth the money

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by ArtfulWebSites

John,

Have you ever considered (or tested) also putting some kind of AdSense block at the end of the article on the bottom of each page?

I read somewhere that, psychologically, a viewer is ready to take some action after finishing reading an article (if they DO, in fact, read the article). Giving them something to do (like clicking on your AdSense ad right there) is a good strategy. What do you think?

Yes I've tested this, but with product sites I like the results better
above the fold.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by John McEachern

Thanks for that Jeremy. And I think John has said over and over to find something that works for you.

I may be wrong, but it seems you can have successful adsense sites that don't focus squarely on one particular brand name product. Maybe an example of this is something like "oversized cat litter boxes". If that's a good paying keyword with low competition, why is a particular brand name product associated with that term necessary to make the site successful?

Maybe just find other complimentary keywords for additional pages to the site. I don't know. It just seems to me there has to be more ways than to skin this cat. But who knows, maybe I'm way off base. Won't know until I try.

You've got the idea!

Be like liquid, go with the flow... Be willing to change...

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by stillstranger

Hi John,

I feel like I’m late to the party (in terms of price)  When I stumbled on the thread it was already 22 pages. Obviously I started from page #1 and made h-u-g-e list of notices.

Can’t thank you enough for the thread but still have one but very important question.

The fact is that I’m bilingual and I won’t dare to run my IM business in English.

The problem that structures like e-Bay, Amazon and others you mentioned here are not reachable for my targeted customers. I’m talking about Russia. So, as I can see the picture, I won’t be able to build my business on physical products.

On the same time Google.ru is 10y.o. only and IM blooming. I’m positive that won’t be any problem with article marketing and CB already accepts Russian digital products but again refund is up to 90%! and 95% of them about IM, yes one niche only.

I would appreciate some advice here, just simple thoughts will do.

Thank you in advance,

Nina

I have no idea what you are asking me. Please clarify.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by John McEachern

I have a question for John or anyone else who has experience in adsense. I've seen some adsense sites where when I checked their backlinks, all I saw was EZA articles. (Which I thought was kind of nice because it shows me that not just John is using these techniques successfuly.)

But all of their articles were related to the niches they were promoting on their adsense site. (If I recall correctly, John says he only writes 1 out of 10 articles for the directories on the topic of his niche). And quite a few of the EZA articles were ranking on the front page.

So, the question I have is that if articles are written for the targeted niche, but don't contain the keywords being promoted on the actual adsense site, that has to be a good thing, right? EZA articles on the first page of Google will drive traffic to the intended sites.

But is it possible that the payout of any adsense ads clicked on the adsense sites would pay a lower amount than had the traffic been straight from a search engine, rather than EZA?

Who really knows? I just do what I do, and it works.

There is no science behind the search engines, they are always
changing.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by John McEachern

I just had one other question. Ideally, just go for one major keyword per site with at least 3,000 or so searches, get that site to rank in the first 3 positions in Google and move on to the next site. Is that right? Is that the plan?

Yes that can work. Did you read my course? I'm not sure if you are
already a customer, but I touch up on that in my book.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by jiajilah

Thank you for everyone contribute to this thread.
I've been reading for 3 days and finally I'm here
Busying modifying my current websites and see how much it can improve.
Will make it as ugly as possible.

I have 1 doubt, the medium size of adsense seems uglier, what's the font size you guys tested has the best performance?
I'm using the prettier small size.

I use the default. Any bigger than that has reduced my CTR.

But that's just me.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by EricGiguere

From a strict viewpoint, yes, better to split the articles among different directories.

BUT some article directories (like EzineArticles) are much better at "propagating" articles out to other sites. So your 20 articles to EZA may in fact get copied onto many more sites than if you split them across different directories. So in the long run you'll get the benefit of different IPs...

AND if you submit a lot of articles to EzineArticles your author bio will start getting link juice and pass it onto your articles.

Eric's a smart guy on this stuff, take his advice.

- John

[fullmatrix]

Hi guys,

I have followed this thread for a long time and finally I decided to buy John's adsense course... I read all the 94 pages in one go! This is the kind of guide that fits my need, no fluff and straight to the point.

The method is actually very simple, and John is right.. there are no secret! The key is to keep working and test everything. What makes this guide different is, its written by person who has been practice for 4 years and has been perfected and successful with his method.. Yes, this is a Masters course! The Master himself is the writer.

Actually I have bought a domain that I'm going to dedicate for this method few days ago, and its already online. But after I read the course, I will tweak it a little bit especially the template to follow guideline that written in the course.

We'll see the result and thanks to John, this is one of the best investment I've ever made, especially in adsense course

[LikeBarryBonds]

24 hrs later I just finished reading this thread and am about to dig in. I have zero experience building websites. I dont know how to use wordpress.org. Would it be possible to use wordpress.com to build my site using one of their templates. Can you make pages instead of posts using wordpress.com? Do they allow you to change a domain name to one that you bought? Buying xsitepro for $200 isn't an option at this point.

Thank you sooo much xFactor. This thread really opened up my eyes. I'm a complete noob. But I have already downloaded a free trial of MS. Allready found some niches and have a list of keywords for my first site. Also I'm buying the exactkeywords.org

How will the s ending effect searches for that exact keyword? My research shows me that both exact keyword and exact keywords get almost identical search volume. I want to try to rank for both. Is that possible? advise?

I'm feeling pretty good after spending the last 24 hrs immersed in this stuff. Help me out though. Gotta Sleep for now.

[andyj00]

John
Could I ask why you dont put something like Infolinks or Kontera on your websites? I have done this on my sites and it brings in good supplemetry cash without affecting Adsense earnings.

[JakeDaly]

Originally Posted by LikeBarryBonds

24 hrs later I just finished reading this thread and am about to dig in. I have zero experience building websites. I dont know how to use wordpress.org. Would it be possible to use wordpress.com to build my site using one of their templates. Can you make pages instead of posts using wordpress.com? Do they allow you to change a domain name to one that you bought? Buying xsitepro for $200 isn't an option at this point.

Yes, you may use Wordpress.org to build your site on any domain and it can be installed through your cPanel. One of the best templates to use on Wordpress with concern to AdSense is one called BlueSense(say that three times fast). Type it into google and you'll find it.

Best Regards,

Jake

[fortony]

Since ezine limits how many resources boxes you can have, even with premium membership, it seems like you can only use them to promote a limited number of sites unless I am missing something.....

[jbgal]

John,

Do you mean the smallest one like in your example template? For some reason my adsense account default is the biggest size. Also, do you use Arial font? I can't quite determine from the yoga mat example either.

JB

Originally Posted by XFactor

I use the default. Any bigger than that has reduced my CTR.

But that's just me.

- John

[DireStraits]

Originally Posted by fortony

Since ezine limits how many resources boxes you can have, even with premium membership, it seems like you can only use them to promote a limited number of sites unless I am missing something.....

I do believe you are: multiple accounts (different email addresses)! :-)

It is better to spread your articles about across multiple accounts anyway in my opinion because it makes it harder for anyone who may be looking to steal your niches to track exactly which sites you run (since you won't have articles in that account pointing to EVERY site you own).

Having said that, I'm not sure if you're limied to a certain number of resource boxes anyway. Maybe a certain number of "stored" / pre-written boxes, but from what I can see you can type a unique one out for each and every article you write as you submit it?

Any case, multiple accounts is the way to go IMO.

[dectomax]

Originally Posted by jbgal

John,

Do you mean the smallest one like in your example template? For some reason my adsense account default is the biggest size. Also, do you use Arial font? I can't quite determine from the yoga mat example either.

JB

I have the same problem. I have just built a site as per Johns template in the book using Xsitepro 2. When I insert the adsense blocks, it results in quite a large font in the adsense block on the web page. Nothing like the smaller font in Johns example.

I know you can set up font size in the adsense setup in your account but as far as I can tell, Xsitepro just takes your publisher i.d. (not the adsense generated code) and sorts the rest out. Is there a way to change font size for the adsense in Xsitepro 2 ?

Thanks.

[dv8]

Originally Posted by melanied

As far as analyzing the strength of the top 10 search results, I wanted to toss a quick plug for the SEOQuake plugin for Firefox. It's free, and you can click one button to have it return all the parameters it searches (PR, Domain Link, and Page Link are what I mainly look at) and then export the results to csv for later perusal, if you like. Very convenient!

Yup, that's what I do as well. I use MNF, then go to Google to double check what MNF told me. Then check SpyFu for advertisers. All of that can be done in literally one minute.

Sometimes I'll also use TrafficEstimate.com. I put the top site into TE.com and see what it says. But this doesn't usually offer anymore additional info for the most part for a few reasons...

1. If the top site is domain.com/whatever, TE will give the results for the entire site, not the exact page you want. Sometimes this doesn't help you...if the site was Amazon.com then obviously the results will be huge compared to the exact page traffic.

2. The site may be targeting a bunch of keywords hence getting traffic from all of them and not just the one you want to go after.

But, if you find a site that is obviously only doing it for AdSense, is one page, and TE spits back a number, well, now you have a general idea of what kind of traffic you can get. It's probably more accurate than the KW tool.

Sounds like a lot of extra work, but checking TE can be done in about 30 seconds.

[dectomax]

Originally Posted by John McEachern

Thanks for that Jeremy. And I think John has said over and over to find something that works for you.

I may be wrong, but it seems you can have successful adsense sites that don't focus squarely on one particular brand name product. Maybe an example of this is something like "oversized cat litter boxes". If that's a good paying keyword with low competition, why is a particular brand name product associated with that term necessary to make the site successful?

Maybe just find other complimentary keywords for additional pages to the site. I don't know. It just seems to me there has to be more ways than to skin this cat. But who knows, maybe I'm way off base. Won't know until I try.

This is exactly what I've done. I found a great keyword that was of the more general descriptive type rather than brand name specific. All my other pages on that site are just longer tail related keywords (that i have optimized and will promote with articles) that I felt didn't deserve a site of their own. That's the beauty of it, you can use up the lower volume keywords as website filler. If these end up ranking aswell........ Wahoo!!

[fortony]

DireStraits thanks for the tip on multiple accounts.

dectomax I took the plunge and got Xsitepro. I'm not familiar with the software yet so I do not know about the adsense problem.

I am wondering. Did you make the site from scratch or is there an easier way with one of the templates that come with the software?

[dectomax]

I built the site from scratch. I didn't do any tutorials just dived in 'trial and error' style. I've got my template EXACTLY as described in the book apart from the adsense font size. The rest is pretty striaghtforward. I'm hoping Johns videos will clear up any gray areas I had.

[SoundsGood]

Hey guys, I haven't used XSitePro in quite some time. Can you create a "master" template in it, then use that template for each new site you create?

[RobertAxelsen]

Greast post, Xfactor. Thanks for sharing your deep earned experience with us.

Your 'Some Lessons Learned' list has been printed out and will be consumed slowly

[lonniewa2]

Originally Posted by SoundsGood

Hey guys, I haven't used XSitePro in quite some time. Can you create a "master" template in it, then use that template for each new site you create?

You can create your website to the specification that is outline in the course and save it as a template for later use.

[Jerry Mcvictor]

"Originally Posted by EricGiguere

.....

AND if you submit a lot of articles to EzineArticles your author bio will start getting link juice and pass it onto your articles."


Right on! Work at boosting your author page's PR. You can do this by submitting more articles and by linking to it.

Best,

Johan

[SoundsGood]

Originally Posted by lonniewa2

You can create your website to the specification that is outline in the course and save it as a template for later use.

Perfect. Thank you, lonniewa2.

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by andyj00

John
Could I ask why you dont put something like Infolinks or Kontera on your websites? I have done this on my sites and it brings in good supplemetry cash without affecting Adsense earnings.

Because I do not try to fix what isn't broke

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by jbgal

John,

Do you mean the smallest one like in your example template? For some reason my adsense account default is the biggest size. Also, do you use Arial font? I can't quite determine from the yoga mat example either.

JB

Yep. You may need to change your settings inside your adsense account.

But about fonts, test the bigger font. It may work well for you.

- John

[dectomax]

Originally Posted by XFactor

Yep. You may need to change your settings inside your adsense account.

But about fonts, test the bigger font. It may work well for you.

- John

Am I missing something here? You can only change your font size in adsense.

So if I set up an ad in adsense and set the font to small, it will produce the code that you would normally paste into your site. Each individual advert has an 'adslot' that instructs Google about which font, pallete etc to show.

BUT with Xsitepro 2, it ONLY asks for your publisher ID which is the ID for the WHOLE account. The various colors, ad type etc are set in a menu in Xsitepro with font size not being an option. Xsite pro then subs this into the source code for the page BUT although the colrs, fonts etc are set, the font size or adslot isn't.

This is as I understand it,

Any ideas?

[lonniewa2]

Well if you want to test the font then do not use the xsitepro insertion module insted paste the adsense directly into your templates source code.

[kislany]

I was searching in MNF for a related keyword to use as filler article on my new site and when I checked on Google, one of the top pages was a site with one of the pages using exactly that keyword. I bet it's somebody from here as, although the template is not using the same colors as John said (it's using a Wordpress theme), everything else is exactly as in this free thread, even down to the pictures in the proper location, with the sidebar as John explained, etc. Ok time to move on to another filler keyword, lol, plenty to choose from. But this does reinforce that it's totally easy to get to the top of the first page with this technique, I've just seen it with my own eyes!

[Evita]

Originally Posted by dectomax

BUT with Xsitepro 2, it ONLY asks for your publisher ID which is the ID for the WHOLE account. The various colors, ad type etc are set in a menu in Xsitepro with font size not being an option. Xsite pro then subs this into the source code for the page BUT although the colrs, fonts etc are set, the font size or adslot isn't.

This is as I understand it,

Any ideas?

Just take the adsense code and insert it onto your page. (Source mode)

Evita

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by dectomax

Am I missing something here? You can only change your font size in adsense.

So if I set up an ad in adsense and set the font to small, it will produce the code that you would normally paste into your site. Each individual advert has an 'adslot' that instructs Google about which font, pallete etc to show.

BUT with Xsitepro 2, it ONLY asks for your publisher ID which is the ID for the WHOLE account. The various colors, ad type etc are set in a menu in Xsitepro with font size not being an option. Xsite pro then subs this into the source code for the page BUT although the colrs, fonts etc are set, the font size or adslot isn't.

This is as I understand it,

Any ideas?

I just manually insert my code into each page on my sites.

I probably do not use 90% of the "automatic" functions with
this program.

And I still use version 1

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by fortony

DireStraits thanks for the tip on multiple accounts.

dectomax I took the plunge and got Xsitepro. I'm not familiar with the software yet so I do not know about the adsense problem.

I am wondering. Did you make the site from scratch or is there an easier way with one of the templates that come with the software?

It's so easy to make it from scratch, because it's just a header, sides
and main page, all which can be made easily in Xsitepro by working
with that specific section.

Any other sitebuilder will work though to make my "ugly" template

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by kislany

I was searching in MNF for a related keyword to use as filler article on my new site and when I checked on Google, one of the top pages was a site with one of the pages using exactly that keyword. I bet it's somebody from here as, although the template is not using the same colors as John said (it's using a Wordpress theme), everything else is exactly as in this free thread, even down to the pictures in the proper location, with the sidebar as John explained, etc. Ok time to move on to another filler keyword, lol, plenty to choose from. But this does reinforce that it's totally easy to get to the top of the first page with this technique, I've just seen it with my own eyes!

Yep, probably one of my students.

That's what is good about this course, it cannot really "water down" the
effectiveness because there are millions of products to go after.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by fullmatrix

Thanks to John, this is one of the best investment I've ever made, especially in adsense course

I never dreamed so many people needed the information in my course,
so let me give a big "Thanks" back to you all for influencing me to write
it.

- John

[mrtrance]

John,

With the theme setup that you recommend do all your sites get those high CTRs or some will not work no matter what theme you use? I ask because before implementing your new theme on two of my sites I was getting CTR of greater than 20% on the two sites regularly. I implemented your theme exactly has you have shown in the ebook and today I have not seen any kind of improvement. Their CTR are about the same and bit lower than normal for one site. Should we just see what the average will be over like a few weeks or a month before coming to a conclusion?

[rnjonjo]

Hey John,

any ideas when the vids you promised are coming out?

currently going thru your ebook and LOVING it.

good job.

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by mrtrance

John,

With the theme setup that you recommend do all your sites get those high CTRs or some will not work no matter what theme you use? I ask because before implementing your new theme on two of my sites I was getting CTR of greater than 20% on the two sites regularly. I implemented your theme exactly has you have shown in the ebook and today I have not seen any kind of improvement. Their CTR are about the same and bit lower than normal for one site. Should we just see what the average will be over like a few weeks or a month before coming to a conclusion?

As I say throughout this thread and in my Adsense course, with
everything that I do, you may find a better way.

So if your site was getting a good CTR then by all means DON'T
CHANGE IT!

If it ain't broke, then don't try to fix it

Having said that, I commend you for testing. It's the only way to
succeed.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by rnjonjo

Hey John,

any ideas when the vids you promised are coming out?

currently going thru your ebook and LOVING it.

good job.

Yes, I will start publishing videos on Monday. There is not
much else to touch up on that isn't in the course, but many
people would like to see some example keyword research.

I also would like to "talk" to you guys about some additional
points about things in my course.

- John

[VipulShah]

Hi John

Just finished your ebook to the last page. While reading it, I immediately noticed the one thing that separates your ebook from others I've bought in the past is that I can honestly see myself implementing your step by step approach and not just dream about it and put it aside. Your ebook is truely one of its kind to me and highly recommended!

Looking forward for the videos

Vipul

[kislany]

Originally Posted by Rajul kaushik

Hello friends,
I suck at creating html denominated sites and have always admired the functionality and user-friendliness of wordpress. John's research and then sharing the inferences derived out, is worth sincere appreciation. How many of us do that?

I found his tips and techniques to making a worthy beginning in so far as gaining from adsense sites is concerned.

And what can be better than a ready made collection of Adsense WP themes which all of us can use to crank out adsense sites in different niches.

Not to piss in your bucket, but affiliate links are not allowed here. You'd better take it down pronto before the 'WF police' catches you.

[Rajul kaushik]

Hello Kislany,
Appreciate your heads up.
I was already caught..........thanks.

Hello John,
Your post is very helpful. I have bought lot of ebooks related to ideas on making money over the internet but the tips which you spelled out for making money through adsense are are nothing but pure 24 carat golden nuggets.
I am using these tips in combination with Adsense themes created by Mark Mason and they just work.
Thanks.

[andyj00]

Well this technique certainly works!
The last couple of days I've set up a brand new site with brand new domain name based on my main keyword.

Yesterday morning it was not indexed in Google at all so followed John's advice on submitting the articles as per his ebook. I also ran the site through socialmarker.com as I've found in the past this a very effective way of getting sites/pages indexed quickly.

Well just checked and my site (indexed 9 hours ago) is sitting on page 2 already for my main keyword!! Very pleased with that! I dont expect it to stay there as all new sites/pages seem to get a little "boost" from Google when they are first indexed, but with a little more backlinking I think I can easily get it to move up.

I think this immediate success was down to a) choosing the correct keyword based on John's criteria and b) using socialmarker to get the site indexed quickly. Simple!

[andyj00]

Forgot to mention I had a couple of visitors from the social bookmarking sites and I had 2 clicks already totalling £2.52 (I've changed my Adsense currency to UK sterling - not sure what this is in dollars )
Still yet to get any Google traffic - but the site hasnt been indexed 24 hours yet

[andyj00]

I have a question. I'm a little nervous of using certain words in the title tag, meta description tag etc such as...........

"....buy product xxxx here...."
"...Find The Best Deals...."

If we are building simple content sites, is it recommended to use this kind of wording on our sites?

My point is - our sites are supposed to be informative and not a gateway to lure people in to click on ads (in the eyes of Google)? What are peoples views on this?

I'm nervous about getting sites de-indexed or worse getting an Adsense ban. How far do we go on the wording when it comes to the "sales" part? Or should we just leave the words as "....help and advice on xxxx.....".

Thanks.
Andy

[kislany]

Just got my first Adsense click on my site. Not much, only 56 cents but it's a start. I've submitted some articles at Ezinearticles, but they haven't been approved yet, so all I've done is submitted one of the pages to social bookmarking. Site is not even indexed yet.
I think I've never been so happy about 56 cents ever before, lol.

[Loloy Diango]

Hi everyone!

Anyone has any advice on a Wordpress theme that we could use which looks similar to John's template?

I feel more comfortable with WP so I might consider Xsite Pro as a low priority option.

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by andyj00

I have a question. I'm a little nervous of using certain words in the title tag, meta description tag etc such as...........

"....buy product xxxx here...."
"...Find The Best Deals...."

If we are building simple content sites, is it recommended to use this kind of wording on our sites?

My point is - our sites are supposed to be informative and not a gateway to lure people in to click on ads (in the eyes of Google)? What are peoples views on this?

I'm nervous about getting sites de-indexed or worse getting an Adsense ban. How far do we go on the wording when it comes to the "sales" part? Or should we just leave the words as "....help and advice on xxxx.....".

Thanks.
Andy

If you don't feel good about anything, then by all means go with your
gut instincts. Never follow anyone's path exactly, add your own twist.

However...

NEVER put those kinds of phrases in your page title (the text above
your adsense ads).

On the other hand, I do like that wording in my headers and articles,
etc.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by VipulShah

Hi John

Just finished your ebook to the last page. While reading it, I immediately noticed the one thing that separates your ebook from others I've bought in the past is that I can honestly see myself implementing your step by step approach and not just dream about it and put it aside. Your ebook is truely one of its kind to me and highly recommended!

Looking forward for the videos

Vipul

Love to hear it, thanks!!

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by andyj00

Well this technique certainly works!
The last couple of days I've set up a brand new site with brand new domain name based on my main keyword.

Yesterday morning it was not indexed in Google at all so followed John's advice on submitting the articles as per his ebook. I also ran the site through socialmarker.com as I've found in the past this a very effective way of getting sites/pages indexed quickly.

Well just checked and my site (indexed 9 hours ago) is sitting on page 2 already for my main keyword!! Very pleased with that! I dont expect it to stay there as all new sites/pages seem to get a little "boost" from Google when they are first indexed, but with a little more backlinking I think I can easily get it to move up.

I think this immediate success was down to a) choosing the correct keyword based on John's criteria and b) using socialmarker to get the site indexed quickly. Simple!

Again, I LOVE seeing people taking action!

Great job

- John