6 Months Later: $300 Daily w/Adsense (Lessons Learned)

[Razorblade]

John, thank you very much for all the information that you're sharing so generously on this thread.

I have always wanted Adsense as my main internet business model.

Can I track clicks on my Adsense ads from where they're being published in each of my sites?

[lonniewa2]

Originally Posted by XFactor

Yes this may be a problem, and you should have checked out if the
top listed sites for your keyword were high traffic, high PR sites,
before starting your niche.

You always have to make this last stop in your research before diving
into a niche.

The search numbers may be great, the competition numbers low, but
if the leading sites for your keywords are sites that would be more of
a fight than they are worth to beat, then...

I would have moved on.

- John

So you just don't look at the PR of the ranking page but also the PR of the homepage? What criteria do you like for the PR of the main page? Do you go for PR 5 or below, 6 or maybe 4?

thanks,

[Dantplayer]

Article marketing is KING, especially in niches. I have as high as 20% CTR on some my mine.

[Lak Kader]

do you build specific product sites with model numbers ect?

[Ted Demopoulos]

Anyone taking action? XFactor (and others) has given us some great information, but it's easy to soak up and not take any action.

I've put up one site in the Wii Games niche. 10 page site indexed by Google today and got my first Google visitor minutes ago. In retrospect, maybe this is a more competitive niche than I thought, but I took action, and the clicks will follow. Will build some backlinks after I finish this post.

I also put up another site starting yesterday on a fly fishing reel niche. Only 4 pages so far, but I've built some backlinks and will add a couple more pages tonight. Too early to tell anything, but I know this niche and already have one flyfishing site and a smallish email list.

And my existing flyfishing site? I've added (and am adding) many more product specific pages as they seem to get more clicks and higher price clicks. They alsomake affiliate sales better!

My two new sites in the past week, the Wii games and fly reel niche sites, were chosen in part because if they work well I can easily clone them - for example, a similar XBOX 360 site.

I'm sure I'm doing all kinds of crap wrong! But at least I'm doing stuff.

Ohh yeah, today is a record AdSense day for me too. Not XFactor like record, but hey, it's paid for all my coffee today Dwarfed by a good affiliate sale, but I'm moving forward.

Hope lots of you are moving forwards too.

[Avidpoet]

Originally Posted by Ted Demopoulos

Anyone taking action? XFactor (and others) has given us some great information, but it's easy to soak up and not take any action.

I've put up one site in the Wii Games niche. 10 page site indexed by Google today and got my first Google visitor minutes ago. In retrospect, maybe this is a more competitive niche than I thought, but I took action, and the clicks will follow. Will build some backlinks after I finish this post.

I also put up another site starting yesterday on a fly fishing reel niche. Only 4 pages so far, but I've built some backlinks and will add a couple more pages tonight. Too early to tell anything, but I know this niche and already have one flyfishing site and a smallish email list.

And my existing flyfishing site? I've added (and am adding) many more product specific pages as they seem to get more clicks and higher price clicks. They alsomake affiliate sales better!

My two new sites in the past week, the Wii games and fly reel niche sites, were chosen in part because if they work well I can easily clone them - for example, a similar XBOX 360 site.

I'm sure I'm doing all kinds of crap wrong! But at least I'm doing stuff.

Ohh yeah, today is a record AdSense day for me too. Not XFactor like record, but hey, it's paid for all my coffee today Dwarfed by a good affiliate sale, but I'm moving forward.

Hope lots of you are moving forwards too.

Any gaming Niche has alot of competition but unless you are a creator of the games you cant make your money but Adsense is a way. Most people in the gaming Niche are click happy anyways and they are actively looking for new codes, new strategies etc. Its an excellent Niche to get in for some Adsense income.

[oadvantage]

"1) I have seen the light in terms of making more sites instead of
focusing on 1 big one. My health site still does well on its own,
around $100 or so daily, but it takes more maintenance than
my new strategy to go specific with keywords and niche markets."

I started making more money when I quick concentrating just on one thing and started to diversify heavily.

[sherone]

Great achievement! I want to learn something from you.

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by legitimatefreestuff

Thanks very much for your great info.

Do you still use GoArticles for backlinks? Are your backlinks showing?

Have you experienced a drop in CPC because of adding too many sites too fast? Is that why you only add 1-2 sites a week?

TY.

I typically use Goarticles & ezinearticles (I wish ezinearticles would
approve fast, but oh well).

About CPC, it seems to remain steady.

Also, I like to work on 1-2 sites per week only to be able to concentrate
more on getting backlinks in the beginning. I do not just build, build,
build.

It's better to build & promote.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by lonniewa2

So you just don't look at the PR of the ranking page but also the PR of the homepage? What criteria do you like for the PR of the main page? Do you go for PR 5 or below, 6 or maybe 4?

thanks,

I was actually just writing about this part in my course.

In my opinion, and what works for me, is that it really
depends on what the 1st page of Google shows you.

I don't mind it if a very high PR site is in the first position, or
even the second (because the 3rd or so can still be profitable).

However, I've easily knocked down PR3 and PR2 sites.

But the best scenario is none of these showing up. Then you've
got a chance to rank in the top with just a few backlinks.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by Lak Kader

do you build specific product sites with model numbers ect?

Yes this is a great strategy so long as there are enough searches
to make the site profitable.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by Ted Demopoulos

Anyone taking action? XFactor (and others) has given us some great information, but it's easy to soak up and not take any action.

I've put up one site in the Wii Games niche. 10 page site indexed by Google today and got my first Google visitor minutes ago. In retrospect, maybe this is a more competitive niche than I thought, but I took action, and the clicks will follow. Will build some backlinks after I finish this post.

I also put up another site starting yesterday on a fly fishing reel niche. Only 4 pages so far, but I've built some backlinks and will add a couple more pages tonight. Too early to tell anything, but I know this niche and already have one flyfishing site and a smallish email list.

And my existing flyfishing site? I've added (and am adding) many more product specific pages as they seem to get more clicks and higher price clicks. They alsomake affiliate sales better!

My two new sites in the past week, the Wii games and fly reel niche sites, were chosen in part because if they work well I can easily clone them - for example, a similar XBOX 360 site.

I'm sure I'm doing all kinds of crap wrong! But at least I'm doing stuff.

Ohh yeah, today is a record AdSense day for me too. Not XFactor like record, but hey, it's paid for all my coffee today Dwarfed by a good affiliate sale, but I'm moving forward.

Hope lots of you are moving forwards too.

Thanks for taking action on the information in this thread.

I wish everyone would follow my lead. I've laid everything out for
you guys.

Decent Adsense income is very easy to generate when you do
the right things.

- John

[josephalford]

hi John

i m really glad 2 see ur Lessons.i m new and i dont hv much idea how 2 make good money from adsense.brother can u guide me what should i do from beginning.

[hipnol]

Originally Posted by tjk1058

I think John says he uses MicroNicheFinder... if so then you would normally do a keyword search for a root keyword and then take all the secondary keywords- I normally concentrate on the 3-4 word keywords with decent amounts of search traffic and check their SOC.

SOC is MNF term for how competitive that keyword is for competition. If it is green then the SOC is low and there is a good chance you can rank for it.

So if you had a keyword "dog grooming" and ran it through MNF and one of the terms came up "beagle dog grooming" and it had a SOC of like 45 and in green then you should be able to rank for this term pretty easy with some backlinking.

At least that is what I do. Not sure if this is how John does it though?

TedK

Thanks for the info. As I see on this forum, I feel Micro Niche Finder is a tool which is worth to invest. Also watched the video and quite impressed. They provide license for 2 users, thinking of sharing it with a friend.

[Jeremy123]

Hi John,

Once you build your site, how fast before you see traffic coming to your site.
In MNF what minimum search count works best for your sites, provided the SOC
is good.

Also how much avg. does each of your mini-sites typically make.

thanks.

[gabrial]

wow
thanks XFactor
great technic

[bay37]

Got my websites on first page of Google already. Took 5 days to get indexed, then straight to page one, positions 3-9. Mind you these are small websites, 2 articles each, no off site SEO. The keywords get ~1300 searches/month, so I'm not expecting to make big money, was just testing the waters.

[Evita]

John,
Thanks again for this thread

Do you submit your sites to Google webmaster? Some seem to think it is important. I usually do, but don't really know if I need to or not.

Also curious to know how much your CTR went up when you lost the headers!
Do you now only have one graphic next to your headline, or no graphic at all?

It is amazing the niches you can find when you look for the right stuff ;-)

Evita

[dynameek]

This is by far the most useful posts i've read on here all day. I struggle to make money with Adsense. I only made 23 cents so far today and didn't make any yesterday n d day before - must be something to do with the days i guess. Also, I know there's still plenty for me to do to improve my earnings. I'm working on other sources of income too though...

[angelah]

Originally Posted by XFactor

Yes I have, but not too much. It's the little tweaks here and there
that have made a big difference.

I now use very high-quality headers as well, and my menu is on the
right side.

Still using 1 Adsense block under the title.

All white backgrounds (no more colors).

- John

Thanks for all this wonderful information.

Do you use the 468x60 Adsense format?

What is the most effective format to use?

Thanks
Angela

[Steve Crooks]

Experiment yourself with different types, colours, shapes etc.. The whole point that John is making here is that there is no cookie cutter approach to this. He has laid down a system that can work irrespective of what adsense format you use. Get the site up, promote it and then play around with your adsense optimisation once the traffic comes rolling in. Over analysis leads to total paralysis...

Originally Posted by angelah

Thanks for all this wonderful information.

Do you use the 468x60 Adsense format?

What is the most effective format to use?

Thanks
Angela

[LadyL08]

Originally Posted by XFactor

Ok, I'll share one of my most profitable niche topics: Grills

I chose a brand name keyword that gets 6,000 searches per month, and only
has a few thousand competing sites.

In the first week it was #6 in Google for that keyword without any backlinking.
In the second week it was #3 in Google, with 1 article submitted to Goarticles.
By week 3, it was ranking 1 and 2 in Google, with just 5 articles for article marketing.
Submit 1 article every 7-10 days, plus one page of content.
It earns me between $10 and $20 per day in Adsense.
The average click brings in .25 cents (but the click-through is outstanding).

- John

I want to make sure I know what I'm looking for when searching for good niches.

If I was doing keyword research for this example and I looked at the backlinks of the top pages, it would show very few, like perhaps less than 20. Or perhaps the on page SEO is lacking, such as H1 tags, header and description? How else can you get to the top with just a few backlinks?

[Marfling]

Hey everyone,

Just noticed John has decided to go ahead and release an Adsense product. As one of his former Adsense and affiliate marketing apprentices, I would strongly urge anyone to go ahead and buy it. Through his coaching and videos I have significantly increased my income in both areas and this is rising daily.

I work on this about 3 hours a day - when im lucky enough to free up some time, I have no doubt I will pull in a similar amount to John, if not more. He is still good enough to answer my questions and give me his opinions today.

For everyone who is worrying about headers, CTR, CPC, Adsense ad sizes, colour schemes, webmaster tools, how much one site will bring in, indexing times - It really doesnt matter at this stage! Put up some quality unique content and drive targeted visitors, the clicks will look after themselves.

Martin.

[azagon]

Brilliant! I've read quite a few Adsense Guides before, but the last 7 pages of posts has been the most valuable advice on Adsense I have ever read.

Keep up the good work John and I will definitely grab a copy of your guide once completed. Thank you

Just one question relating hosting, Can you setup 1 Hostgator hosting package and have all of your domains point back to one package? (I currently have a seperate hosting package for each of my domains and it costs me about $70 per year per domain+hosting).

I hope this question isnt too technical (off topic).

Cheers

Adrian

[Jeremy123]

Hi Adrian,

I did the same as you when I started.

You can host many websites with one hosting package.
I use lunarpages.com $95 for one year as many websites as I want.

[Steven Carl Kelly]

Ah, I see now that you're going to offer this as a course for sale!

[W.P. Allen]

Anyone taking action? XFactor (and others) has given us some great information, but it's easy to soak up and not take any action.

I'm working on 5 sites right now. Plan on doing 5 per week until I hit $300 per day. Outsourcing most of the writing (I'm not much of a writer) but building the sites and doing most of the linking myself.

My strategy:

-5 sites 5 pages each (if a site starts to make money I'll add more pages)
-5 articles per site submitted to Ezinearticles.com, Goarticles.com and a few more high PR directories
-Directory submission and social bookmarking each site (using WLmarketing.com)
-Angela's linking stratey for each site
-Linkvana links for each site

Hopefully at 5 per week I'll be able to hit my goal in the next two months.

This thread is an inspiration and I advise anyone else who's sitting on the fence to get with it and start building sites.

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by hipnol

Thanks for the info. As I see on this forum, I feel Micro Niche Finder is a tool which is worth to invest. Also watched the video and quite impressed. They provide license for 2 users, thinking of sharing it with a friend.

Yes it is the backbone of my researching small niche markets, but keep
in mind there are others out there that do what Micro Niche Finder
does, and more.

I just like to use what I need, therefore the functions of MNF is
perfect for me.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by Jeremy123

Hi John,

Once you build your site, how fast before you see traffic coming to your site.
In MNF what minimum search count works best for your sites, provided the SOC
is good.

Also how much avg. does each of your mini-sites typically make.

thanks.

I have never had a site that did not start earning within a week, typically
less.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by moqaddasshero

HI
HOPE YOU ARE FINE
THATS A GREAT SECRET THAT U SHARED WITH US.
THANKS FOR SHARING SUCH TINGS.

No secrets my friend, none at all. This is all just basic stuff.

I find a market, build the site, and get backlinks through article marketing.

That's it.

I haven't even upgraded to sitebuilder, not interested in social bookmarking, making blogger blogs, or putting up squidoo and hub pages.

I'm probably missing out on some extra link juice, but I love the way I work
and do not follow trends.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by bay37

Got my websites on first page of Google already. Took 5 days to get indexed, then straight to page one, positions 3-9. Mind you these are small websites, 2 articles each, no off site SEO. The keywords get ~1300 searches/month, so I'm not expecting to make big money, was just testing the waters.

It's simple, isn't it?

Based on what you have told us, your site should make $20 to $30 on
its own.

What I would do is get it listed at the top spot by backlinking with anchor
text of your main keyword.

Also, find 5 more keywords that have 500+ searches and add those
as pages.

With a little backlinking leg-work, you should be able to get traffic and
clicks from all of those keywords, with very little maintenance.

Then build more.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by Marfling

Hey everyone,

Just noticed John has decided to go ahead and release an Adsense product. As one of his former Adsense and affiliate marketing apprentices, I would strongly urge anyone to go ahead and buy it. Through his coaching and videos I have significantly increased my income in both areas and this is rising daily.

I work on this about 3 hours a day - when im lucky enough to free up some time, I have no doubt I will pull in a similar amount to John, if not more. He is still good enough to answer my questions and give me his opinions today.

For everyone who is worrying about headers, CTR, CPC, Adsense ad sizes, colour schemes, webmaster tools, how much one site will bring in, indexing times - It really doesnt matter at this stage! Put up some quality unique content and drive targeted visitors, the clicks will look after themselves.

Martin.

Hey Martin, haven't heard from you in a while.

You know you can contact me anytime!

- John

[LadyL08]

I am so frustrated. I want to take action, but I believe my problem is keyword research. I can find long tail keywords with fairly high searches and low competition. But I still need hundreds of backlinks to pass the top results.

I spent time even brainstorming with my teenage daughter and still couldn't come up with any searches that could be dominated with little backlinking. I just don't think I'm on the right page. I'm missing something.

(See my previous comment a couple posts above.)

[bay37]

Originally Posted by LadyL08

I am so frustrated. I want to take action, but I believe my problem is keyword research. I can find long tail keywords with fairly high searches and low competition. But I still need hundreds of backlinks to pass the top results.

How do you know that you need hundreds of backlinks to get to the top if you haven't even tried yet?

I put up 3 websites ~5 days ago. They are all on the first page of Google now. I haven't done any backlinking to them yet.

You want an easy way to know if you could rank for a long tail keyword without a lot of work? Go to moniker.com and check if keyword.com is available (if it is, then you can probably rank well without any backlinks). This is not a perfect system, and it might not work every time, but is has worked for me so far (3 out of 3).

NOTE: there are many great keywords to target and this is not the best way to go about things. But if you are struggling try this approach first.

[Bounderby]

Originally Posted by XFactor

It's simple, isn't it?

Based on what you have told us, your site should make $20 to $30 on
its own.

What I would do is get it listed at the top spot by backlinking with anchor
text of your main keyword.

Also, find 5 more keywords that have 500+ searches and add those
as pages.

With a little backlinking leg-work, you should be able to get traffic and
clicks from all of those keywords, with very little maintenance.

Then build more.

- John

When back-linking the additional low volume keywords, should the anchor text be these specific keywords linking to the new pages, or do you still link back to the landing page?
This is the one thing I'm still not sure on - if I have ten pages each with a different keyword is it strengthening the ranking of the site as a whole, or just each page separately. For example, my landing page is focused on keyword A. I write a post focused on keyword B - does my site still rank better for keyword A as the site as a whole has more content?
I'm not sure I've managed to get across what I mean. I want Google to rank www. domain.com not www. domain.com/post2, right?

[Bounderby]

Oh, and what price point are you envisaging launching your product for

[LadyL08]

I have taken a good amount of action. I have one site with 100 pages, 80 articles linked to it, 5 Squidoo lenses and 4 separate blogs. My clicks are close to a dollar each but I only get about 10 visitors a day. I've optimized on long tail keywords but as I said I can't break into the top 10.

I have another site with about 20 pages, 40 articles, etc. I am trying to work my way into the top 5, but again to do so will take hundreds of backlinks. I have analyzed the competition using SEO Book and Market Samarai.

I've been spending the last week doing nothing but creating backlinks. I had one page that got to #1 for a day then disappeared out of the top 200. I have looked up keywords from foreclosure to ab machines to baby bottles to cheap flip flops. There is something that is just not connecting with me understanding how to research markets and keywords.

[loybond]

I've launched three sites this week using XFactor's methodology. Went with SoC less than 20, but didn't look at "exact phrase count" so I wonder if that'll affect me.

Created backlinks to the three sites using Angela's backlinks (July's packet). On page SEO done, don't see them in Google yet, let's wait and see.

I wonder if Angela's backlinks are better, equal or worse than 20 articles to Ezine and Go.

[lonniewa2]

Originally Posted by Ted Demopoulos

Anyone taking action? XFactor (and others) has given us some great information, but it's easy to soak up and not take any action.

I've put up one site in the Wii Games niche. 10 page site indexed by Google today and got my first Google visitor minutes ago. In retrospect, maybe this is a more competitive niche than I thought, but I took action, and the clicks will follow. Will build some backlinks after I finish this post.

I also put up another site starting yesterday on a fly fishing reel niche. Only 4 pages so far, but I've built some backlinks and will add a couple more pages tonight. Too early to tell anything, but I know this niche and already have one flyfishing site and a smallish email list.

And my existing flyfishing site? I've added (and am adding) many more product specific pages as they seem to get more clicks and higher price clicks. They alsomake affiliate sales better!

My two new sites in the past week, the Wii games and fly reel niche sites, were chosen in part because if they work well I can easily clone them - for example, a similar XBOX 360 site.

I'm sure I'm doing all kinds of crap wrong! But at least I'm doing stuff.

Ohh yeah, today is a record AdSense day for me too. Not XFactor like record, but hey, it's paid for all my coffee today Dwarfed by a good affiliate sale, but I'm moving forward.

Hope lots of you are moving forwards too.

Since this thread has started I have put up one website that is ranking at #10 and I just received a .99 click today. I only have one content page and one article pointing to is so far.

I have 3 other websites which only one of them are ranking and getting click on page 1 at number 6 & 7 with double listing. Since reading this thread has help me to keep it simple which I did with my last website. I cannot wait for the ebook.

thanks

[lonniewa2]

Originally Posted by XFactor

I was actually just writing about this part in my course.

In my opinion, and what works for me, is that it really
depends on what the 1st page of Google shows you.

I don't mind it if a very high PR site is in the first position, or
even the second (because the 3rd or so can still be profitable).

However, I've easily knocked down PR3 and PR2 sites.

But the best scenario is none of these showing up. Then you've
got a chance to rank in the top with just a few backlinks.

- John

When you say PR3 and PR2 sites are you talking about the page that is ranking or are talking about the homepage. For example. The pages that are ranking for a keyword are all PR2 & PR3 but the homepage for each website/homepage are PR7. What then?

[lonniewa2]

Originally Posted by loybond

I've launched three sites this week using XFactor's methodology. Went with SoC less than 20, but didn't look at "exact phrase count" so I wonder if that'll affect me.

Created backlinks to the three sites using Angela's backlinks (July's packet). On page SEO done, don't see them in Google yet, let's wait and see.

I wonder if Angela's backlinks are better, equal or worse than 20 articles to Ezine and Go.

It could take up to three weeks for Google to find your links because the are deep within the websites on profile pages. At least that is what my experience has been. You should get at least one article written to supplement those links.

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by Ted Demopoulos

I've put up one site in the Wii Games niche. 10 page site indexed by Google today and got my first Google visitor minutes ago.

Good niche buddy! I have a website on the same thing. Unfortunately I didn't get accepted by ebay, so my only revenue is adsense from that site. Get ready for some big $$$ during thanksgiving/christmas.

Last year I made over 1K in adsense just during the shopping season from this website. Work on it consistently and bring it to the top by November and you'll see what I mean. One day I had over 1K visitors and $35, I couldn't believe my eyes. That's when I realized how 'BIG' the internet was and really started working on IM.

You can also apply for Linkshare and sell Wiis through them, but if you're with Ebay, you'll probably end up making many Ks this Christmas!

However, now it's down to a few $$ a day. But only till Christmas!

Good luck!
Chucky

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by LadyL08

I am so frustrated. I want to take action, but I believe my problem is keyword research. I can find long tail keywords with fairly high searches and low competition. But I still need hundreds of backlinks to pass the top results.

I spent time even brainstorming with my teenage daughter and still couldn't come up with any searches that could be dominated with little backlinking. I just don't think I'm on the right page. I'm missing something.

(See my previous comment a couple posts above.)

Yes I do agree that you are missing something.

I'm not sure what the problem could be because there are millions
of profitable mini-niches that only need a few backlinks to keep
your site ranked and making
money.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by Evita

John,
Thanks again for this thread

Do you submit your sites to Google webmaster? Some seem to think it is important. I usually do, but don't really know if I need to or not.

Also curious to know how much your CTR went up when you lost the headers!
Do you now only have one graphic next to your headline, or no graphic at all?

It is amazing the niches you can find when you look for the right stuff ;-)

Evita

Hello Evita,

I only submit my site to Yahoo and MSN (Bing), not Google webmaster or
anything else (article marketing takes care of Google quickly).

My CTR went way up, but I'm not sure of the exact percentage. I have
a bad habit of ignoring stats or even logging into Google analytics.

I have pictures underneath the header area, about 4-5 of them, and
below that the page title and Adsense block (336 X 280)

- John

[Drikus Botha]

I'm so glad to see that Adsense is not just a pipe-dream but a reality. I know that every second person warns against Google and I can understand it but I also see huge websites using Adsense for a very long time.

It really inspires me when I read the lessons learned by my fellow members. I've been making some income from Adsense but not nearly as much as $300 a day. The great thing that helps in my case is the currency of my country. I get about R8.50 for $1.

I dream about the day that I make $300 a day because that would be R2550 a day and that would amount to R76500 a month. Not bad in a country where the top salaries are about R30 000 per month.

Thank you all for the great information.

[loybond]

Originally Posted by lonniewa2

It could take up to three weeks for Google to find your links because the are deep within the websites on profile pages. At least that is what my experience has been. You should get at least one article written to supplement those links.

I was actually just gonna ask how you and others are ranked so quickly. I've started a number of sites in the last few days, and all are in low competition areas, yet none are ranked. Most are indexed, except one, which one seems to have the main page indexed (and that's the one I'm most excited about!).

Also I had started two sites with the approach where each page targets a different keyword phrase. That had worked initially, as many of them were on page 1, but today, no results!

I'll get some articles written and see what that does.

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by loybond

I was actually just gonna ask how you and others are ranked so quickly. I've started a number of sites in the last few days, and all are in low competition areas, yet none are ranked. Most are indexed, except one, which one seems to have the main page indexed (and that's the one I'm most excited about!).

Also I had started two sites with the approach where each page targets a different keyword phrase. That had worked initially, as many of them were on page 1, but today, no results!

I'll get some articles written and see what that does.

Yep, you need backlinks.

I advise my students to submit at least 1-2 articles every day for
each site, until the rankings start to move up.

Some sites need only 1 article. Some need 3 to 4.

Others may need 10 to 15.

And so on...

- John

[jbgal]

John,

Do you use the same category every time you submit articles? You mentioned your sites are all for physical products so do you submit to just "shopping" or do you vary the categories you submit to?

JB

Originally Posted by XFactor

I typically use Goarticles & ezinearticles (I wish ezinearticles would
approve fast, but oh well).

About CPC, it seems to remain steady.

Also, I like to work on 1-2 sites per week only to be able to concentrate
more on getting backlinks in the beginning. I do not just build, build,
build.

It's better to build & promote.

- John

[raymagnetic]

Hi John,

Thanks for the very informative post. It's very much appreciated as I have a couple of websites that have adsense on them but I've never done much to build them up.

You and the other adsense "gurus" here have really put a battery in my back as far as trying to succeed with adsense.

I've already done several searches of keyword phrases and have found a few that have 12000 visitors per month with only 20,000 competing pages on google.

I'm looking to build a site a day optimized with adsense and doing all of the SEO work for each site on the day it's built.

One question I have however, I noticed you said something about building backlinks slowly, but I have also heard that it doesn't actually matter how fast you build up backlinks to your site. Any opinion on this, or is this too far out of scope for this discussion?

[Drikus Botha]

The main thing that really stands out in this thread is the fact that you must focus on doing the small stuff that works over and over again.

John, this is (was) probably one of my biggest problems. I just get going with something that probably would work just fine, then I see something else and try that.

Thank you for showing me that I need the self-discipline to focus on a system that works.