UK Warriors: SEO

Matt Hoey · 06-24-2009, 04:30 AM

As a UK Warrior and part of a UK SEO web design company I research keywords for UK clients marketing in the UK.

There is one aspect i'm still not 100% sure about and have only experimented with slightly.

It sometimes comes to pass that a keyword will have for example:

74,000,000 competing sites in Google selecting "the web" and 300,000 competing sites when selecting "pages from the UK".

I have worked on sites that rnak well in this situation but i'm still not sure fi they make good targets. I can EASILY rnak a site for a 300k keyword, but "the web" 70m results scares me.

Has anyone else faced this situation?

Have you found that the 300k in the UK is an indication of a gap to rank a site or does the 70m "in the web" show that it is too competative?

affiliated survivor · 06-24-2009, 08:59 AM

How large is the percentage of people in Uk that search the "the Web" or "Pages from the UK"? I think most will just leave it at "web". So you will lose a lot of traffic if you rank well in "uk" but not on "web".

PeteHarrison · 06-24-2009, 10:24 AM

Hi Matt,

The results returned will, to a large extent, depend on whether the user uses google.com or google.co.uk to perform their search.
Assuming the site you are trying to rank is a .co.uk and hosted in the UK, if the user uses the Google UK datacenters then their searh results will be biased towards UK results.

Pete

Intrepreneur · 06-24-2009, 10:40 AM

Using a .co.uk domain name and also registering the .com will help.

Although you should really be heading to Google

and using an allintitle: search string to see what you are up against.

Michael Nguyen · 06-24-2009, 06:16 PM

what is the PR and backlink number for "the web" do you feel you can beat them? The 300,000 just mean pages and not all will be competing. Lots will just happen to have the keyword but not exactly optimized

M0n3yMan · 06-24-2009, 06:29 PM

actually if you are searching in the uk and go to google.com you will be redirected to google.co.uk.

also searching on google.co.uk with "the web" will still give you tailored results and uk based sites have more weight, Well certainly on product based searches, I think from testing that info based searches are pretty simular to us .com results.

I wouldnt worry too much about the number of sites it returns and concentrate more on analyzing the top 10 results returned.

I have been number 1 for a result that returned 70+ million with minimal content and 6 crappy backlinks where the top 10 werent optimized and also have not cracked top 10 for terms with less than 300,000 because they were highly optimized.

06-24-2009, 04:30 AM	#1
Matt Hoey Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 624 Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 15 Thanked 18 Times in 15 Posts	UK Warriors: SEO - Competing Sites Data As a UK Warrior and part of a UK SEO web design company I research keywords for UK clients marketing in the UK. There is one aspect i'm still not 100% sure about and have only experimented with slightly. It sometimes comes to pass that a keyword will have for example: 74,000,000 competing sites in Google selecting "the web" and 300,000 competing sites when selecting "pages from the UK". I have worked on sites that rnak well in this situation but i'm still not sure fi they make good targets. I can EASILY rnak a site for a 300k keyword, but "the web" 70m results scares me. Has anyone else faced this situation? Have you found that the 300k in the UK is an indication of a gap to rank a site or does the 70m "in the web" show that it is too competative?

06-24-2009, 08:59 AM	#2
affiliated survivor HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 337 Thanks: 0 Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: UK Warriors: SEO - Competing Sites Data How large is the percentage of people in Uk that search the "the Web" or "Pages from the UK"? I think most will just leave it at "web". So you will lose a lot of traffic if you rank well in "uk" but not on "web".

06-24-2009, 10:24 AM	#3
PeteHarrison Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: UK Posts: 86 Thanks: 8 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts Social Networking	Re: UK Warriors: SEO - Competing Sites Data Hi Matt, The results returned will, to a large extent, depend on whether the user uses google.com or google.co.uk to perform their search. Assuming the site you are trying to rank is a .co.uk and hosted in the UK, if the user uses the Google UK datacenters then their searh results will be biased towards UK results. Pete

06-24-2009, 10:40 AM	#4
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06-24-2009, 06:16 PM	#5
Michael Nguyen Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: London Posts: 1,029 Thanks: 60 Thanked 147 Times in 103 Posts	Re: UK Warriors: SEO - Competing Sites Data what is the PR and backlink number for "the web" do you feel you can beat them? The 300,000 just mean pages and not all will be competing. Lots will just happen to have the keyword but not exactly optimized
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06-24-2009, 06:29 PM	#6
M0n3yMan Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 55 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: UK Warriors: SEO - Competing Sites Data actually if you are searching in the uk and go to google.com you will be redirected to google.co.uk. also searching on google.co.uk with "the web" will still give you tailored results and uk based sites have more weight, Well certainly on product based searches, I think from testing that info based searches are pretty simular to us .com results. I wouldnt worry too much about the number of sites it returns and concentrate more on analyzing the top 10 results returned. I have been number 1 for a result that returned 70+ million with minimal content and 6 crappy backlinks where the top 10 werent optimized and also have not cracked top 10 for terms with less than 300,000 because they were highly optimized.