1WayLinks.net or Linkvana?

[Ehsan_am]

Thelink juicer does much more than Trafficbug. It bookmarks the bookmarks and posts on blogs and then creates link wheels to them.

[The Expert]

I'm going to say that The Link Juicer is my #1 link building tool right now.

Reason is that it's 100% automated after you set up a campaign, so if you get busy it's ALWAYS continuing to build a baseline of links to your site AND it does it in a multi-layered, linkwheel format!

I use other services as well and am a firm believer that the more you can afford the better. The more ways you can get links the more 'noise' you create in your overall link profile which makes you look more diverse and reduces footprints.

[sammoro]

I new to 'participating' in the forum and find this thread invaluable. I've just upped my game and started taking a more serious and thoughtful approach to site building so thanks for the info here.

One question I have is about my plan for content for my LV or 1WL. I've taken over a large advice related forum with thousands (and thousands) of posts. This includes article style submissions from members and some great topics.

Since this is the site I want to create new backlinks for (in the beginning), I'm planning to use relevant posts or portions of them as the articles I submit. I mean, the content is already there, natural and original. Seems like a no-brainer to me but I'd be interested in feedback. The site already has a large number of backlinks but I want to create new and better targeted ones

Again, awesome thread and really helped me understand what I should consider when creating backlinks.

[ppaamm]

I use freetrafficsystem and it works nicely for me. I think its similar with the concept of 1waylinks but it offers a free subscription which is nice.

[magentawave]

Originally Posted by ppaamm

I use freetrafficsystem and it works nicely for me. I think its similar with the concept of 1waylinks but it offers a free subscription which is nice.

A couple questions about freetrafficsystem please...

1) Are you still using their free system or did you upgrade to their $47.00 per month service?

2) If you already have your articles written, how much work is it to use their system?

3) Will you lose your backlinks if you stop using their system like you do with a few other backlinking services?

Thanks
Steve

[The Expert]

Steve,

I use FTS myself. Your question as to how long it takes to use it is difficult to answer.

The biggest issue is how you spin your articles. If do three re-writes on every sentence then it takes about 3 times as long to spin the article as to write the original (if you wrote it yourself that is). If you only rewrite the first and last sentence of each paragraph three times (and the entire first paragraph and last paragraph), or if you only do two rewrites of every sentence then it takes about twice as long to spin the article as to create the original.

Dropping the spun content into the system and then inserting your link positions takes another 10 minutes and checking off the blogs you want to distribute to takes 5-10 minutes.

I'm sure it's like anything else...you get faster as you do it more.

[magentawave]

Originally Posted by The Expert

Steve,

I use FTS myself. Your question as to how long it takes to use it is difficult to answer.

The biggest issue is how you spin your articles. If do three re-writes on every sentence then it takes about 3 times as long to spin the article as to write the original (if you wrote it yourself that is). If you only rewrite the first and last sentence of each paragraph three times (and the entire first paragraph and last paragraph), or if you only do two rewrites of every sentence then it takes about twice as long to spin the article as to create the original.

Dropping the spun content into the system and then inserting your link positions takes another 10 minutes and checking off the blogs you want to distribute to takes 5-10 minutes.

I'm sure it's like anything else...you get faster as you do it more.

Do you take articles you already have on your site and drop them into their article spinner? Are you using FTS's free service or did you upgrade to their $47 per month service?

Thanks
Steve

[The Expert]

Do you take articles you already have on your site and drop them into their article spinner? Are you using FTS's free service or did you upgrade to their $47 per month service?

I upgraded to the paid service. I don't ever use the same content that I have on my sites for article distribution. I have other, low quality articles done up cheap which I'll then spin and drop into the various services.

[magentawave]

Originally Posted by The Expert

I upgraded to the paid service. I don't ever use the same content that I have on my sites for article distribution. I have other, low quality articles done up cheap which I'll then spin and drop into the various services.

So the only purpose for spinning the "low quality" articles and posting them to multiple article directories was to get the backlinks to your sites, right?

Is FTS's article spinner decent?

And does anyone know how FTS's service differs from a million other article spinning/posting type sites like Unique Article Wizard (Unique Article Wizard - Submit Unique Content to Hundreds of Websites) for example?

Steve

[pauljeaston]

I have success with one way links too...cool tool

[steveniam]

For backlinking I have used the following:

(1) Linkvana - use it for about 6 months but unsubscribing recently (too costly)
(2) NextgenLinks - have use it for about 9 months as it is quite competitively priced
(3) Social Bookmarking 101 - About 3 months
(4) Linkjuicer - About a month
(5) Angelina and Paul - quite a number of months
(6) Free Traffic System - almost a year
(7) Other freelance services on and off

Seriously I do not know which one really works but just want to make sure my backlinks come from various sources to make it natural so as to avoid any Google slaps.

[The Expert]

Is FTS's article spinner decent?

The system itself does not have a spinning tool. They have one that they recomment, but I use Power Article Rewriter myself. The spyntax that Power Article Rewriter produces is not in the format which FTS uses, so I have to drop it into notepad and do two quick find-n-replace runs before inserting it into the sites.

All of these sites themselves are very similar in nature FTS. FTS has a few "fancy" features for pro members which I like. In the end, it's like steveniam said, you want to use as many tools to get your links out on as many networks as possible.

In the end this has you getting a bunch of links across tons of different IP addresses...which is very important.

I think it should be the goal of every IMer to get a site setup that produces about $800 p/month which will be dedicated to funding as many of these tools as possible.

[SoundsGood]

Originally Posted by steveniam

For backlinking I have used the following:

(1) Linkvana - use it for about 6 months but unsubscribing recently (too costly)
(2) NextgenLinks - have use it for about 9 months as it is quite competitively priced
(4) Linkjuicer - About a month

Out of these 3 services, which would you recommend most?

Thanks.

[suncit]

Great Thread, I've learned allot, now I got some homework to do. Was going with UAW but have since changed my mind. Do all of the previously mentioned tools allow you to control the rate your links are built? Cause I know you can set the number of articles distributed per day in the UAW control panel.

Again great thread, thanks for the education.
Garth

[magentawave]

Just don't get anything that will erase all your one way back links if or when you stop subscribing to it.

Steve

[SEOArbiter]

Originally Posted by sree94

Hey,

Can anybody tell me the difference between 1WayLinks.net from Jon Leger and Linkvana?

I am currently a Linkvana subscriber. The price is very steep, and even though my sales are up since I bought, most of my traffic is coming from EzineArticles

I would like something a bit more reasonable

I personally would not recommend LinkVana. I haven't used 1WayLinks.net.

I don't want to say anything negative about the service. However, there is a big time committment in terms of writing the blog posts. This wasn't an issue for us, as we outsource.

However, we setup google alerts to monitor our SEO and we happen to see several of the sites\blogs in the linkvana network that our links ended up on.

They were extremely simple, very ugly wodpress sites. They had zero page rank, even though based on the archives the sites were up for at least a year or more, which means the sites had absolutely no link building done.

Anyway, because of the lack of page rank (page rank IS important when it comes to the sites\pages your links are on), we stopped using the service.

They are obviously making some money and have quite a few people using their service, so I don't understand why they don't hire a team of outsourcers to promote the sites, and make them look like real blogs.

[anwar001]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

I believe linkvana is the best in terms of link power!

The linkjuicer is bookmarking backlinks, similar to trafficbug, but I prefer trafficbug! You will receive better price when you join 30 days challenge. I am still testing linkjuicer, still not see significant result yet, it is just too soon to tell.

Trafficbug gives you better value, and you can post unlimited links??

Did you experience any success with trafficbug? How long have you been using it and did it work at getting rankings for competitive keywords?

[samony]

Originally Posted by anwar001

Did you experience any success with trafficbug? How long have you been using it and did it work at getting rankings for competitive keywords?

I tested traffic bug on a dozen of sites for 4 months. It was complete waste of time. It's not in the same category as other link-building tools mentioned in this thread.
Cheers,
S.

[macchiavelli]

I used linkvana on a couple of my websites and all of em mysteriously dissapeared out of google....bummer

[SoundsGood]

Originally Posted by macchiavelli

I used linkvana on a couple of my websites and all of em mysteriously dissapeared out of google....bummer

Yikes!

[blue_sky]

Originally Posted by macchiavelli

I used linkvana on a couple of my websites and all of em mysteriously dissapeared out of google....bummer

is there an update to this post?
Linkvana def leaves a "footprint" in terms that you can spot the short postings easily

[Craig McPherson]

Originally Posted by askloz

results are not sustained indefinitely.

I know 2 years is not indefinite but I'm liking whats happening.

[blue_sky]

Originally Posted by Craig McPherson

I know 2 years is not indefinite but I'm liking whats happening.

so you are using the service for more than 2 years and still have all your sites??????

[Craig McPherson]

Originally Posted by blue_sky

so you are using the service for more than 2 years and still have all your sites??????

Absolutely.

I am not sure how long the service has been going but I have been a member since day 1, roughly 2 years I think and all the sites I have submitted are doing beautifully.

Never had an issue with one of them.

One is a .info that has sat at #1 - #3 for the last 2 years for a search term with over 156 million competing . 1 way links has gotten over 23 sites onto page 1 with only 3 failing to get to page 1.

Hugely recommend it.

[ryanvroman]

I use both 1waylinks and Linkvana successfully. Both are good for their own reasons.

[COBSolutions]

Originally Posted by anwar001

Is it still not similar to gaming the system?

What is SEO then, to an extent, you are gaming Google

[Vesuvio]

I will be trying the 1waylinks system as it is the most reasonably priced. Will post results.

[magentawave]

I would make sure its not one of those back link "services" that makes all your back links disappear when you stop subscribing. I made that mistake once with a deal called NextGen Links.

Steve

Originally Posted by Vesuvio

I will be trying the 1waylinks system as it is the most reasonably priced. Will post results.

[pinewinds8]

Hey Daniel, what about your own free 3-way links service? How does IT compare to Leger's and Linkvana? I use your service on a couple of my sites. It shows me that my link quantities are growing everyday, but it does not appear that google sees them at all. I would love to hear your response.

[Tom Goodwin]

Originally Posted by Daniel McGonagle

With LV there are less links needed because they're coming from sites with decent PageRank and linkjuice ....

Really?

According to LV's own sales page, a blog in their network must only meet 1 of 3 three criteria:

(1) PR of 2-5
(2) aged (I think 6+ years); OR
(3) 1000+ backlinks.

According to this, a blog could be in their network with PR of 0 and zero backlinks, but is 7 years old. For that kind of juice, you might as well just buy your own expiring domains from GoDaddy.

Tom

[TheChanger]

Great thread!

I am going to give 1waylinks.net a go. I will post my results

[magentawave]

I don't remember the specifics of 1waylinks.net at the moment, but just make sure its not the kind of deal where when you stop paying for it you lose all your backlinks.

Steve

Originally Posted by Gordon Hay

Great thread!

I am going to give 1waylinks.net a go. I will post my results

[ursimrankhanna]

Hi. such a nice and help full post.thx for share.

[gjnr7522]

I've been considering 1wayLinks.net by Leger and LinkVana. The price of LinkVana scares me, though. It's high. Leger's service is more affordable. However, I believe Leger has integrity. I once emailed him and he sent me a free copy of his Instant Article Writing software 2.0. It was good for its time. I always thought that was very generous of him. With so many IM guys trying to fleece people w/ crap products, for someone to GIVE me something made an impression. I use his IAW3 now and love it.

I'm also considering another service too, buildmyrank.

[magentawave]

Just don't subscribe to any backlinking service where you will lose all your backlinks if/when you cancel your subscription. I made that mistake once.

Originally Posted by greschke363

I've been considering 1wayLinks.net by Leger and LinkVana. The price of LinkVana scares me, though. It's high. Leger's service is more affordable. However, I believe Leger has integrity. I once emailed him and he sent me a free copy of his Instant Article Writing software 2.0. It was good for its time. I always thought that was very generous of him. With so many IM guys trying to fleece people w/ crap products, for someone to GIVE me something made an impression. I use his IAW3 now and love it.

I'm also considering another service too, buildmyrank.

[Fking]

is it still any good? 1waylinks?

[juxter]

I have been considering 1waylinks, but am not sure how it works. Right now, I have four blogs in different niches. Can I add all four to the network or even more as they are created?

LJ

[magentawave]

Just make sure to NOT choose any backlink plan where if you stop paying the monthly fee that you will lose all your backlinks. I did that once - BIG mistake!

Steve

Originally Posted by juxter

I have been considering 1waylinks, but am not sure how it works. Right now, I have four blogs in different niches. Can I add all four to the network or even more as they are created?

LJ

[Rita]

Best thing is invest to buy 10 hogh PR domain and build your own backlink system. It works

[Fking]

Originally Posted by Rita

Best thing is invest to buy 10 hogh PR domain and build your own backlink system. It works

how far you think you would go with 10 links?