1WayLinks.net or Linkvana?

[sree94]

Hey,

Can anybody tell me the difference between 1WayLinks.net from Jon Leger and Linkvana?

I am currently a Linkvana subscriber. The price is very steep, and even though my sales are up since I bought, most of my traffic is coming from EzineArticles

I would like something a bit more reasonable

[nikolaaa]

I don't like idea how 1waylinks works.
It just put your article with links on many blogs that are link farms.
As I understand it, you have to make new blog just for that network and that means that all blogs are without reputation, just with random articles...
Like link farm.

[davemoore]

linkvana is a professional service for seo's and folks that actually make a living online, and if one knows how to do key research for your anchors, linkvana is worth 10 times the fee. first I have heard of 1waylinks, but if it is anything like 3waylinks then it is geared more towards the "internet marketing" crowd. From what I have read Jon Leger seems like a cut above your average top level internet marketer integrety-wise, at the same time, he is an internet marketer, and linkvana is run by an SEO's. I am sure both services have their place, and 1waylinks seems like a low enough price to try it, then you can compare to your linkvana results. just keep your tests separate.

P.s. quick advice, I would really keep an eye on a specifc project test or 2 in linkvana to see how certain words react, it will help you understand what keywords work and also the worth of good links. try a couple real general anchors of 2 terms (words), a couple semi-general 3 term anchors, niched 4 term keys that you find in common keyword tools, and a few niched longtail (with historic traffic) 4-5 terms. Then check it every couple weeks in your stats. This applies for any method you are using to get links, linkvana, 1 way links, anything, just keep tests separate and if poss in the same general market. Sorry to ramble.

[Tom Borowski]

Nikolaaa really said it all. Members are required to add a blog to the system that will then be used for posting other members' links to. Most members of 1WayLinks will therefor be setting up some new blog just for adding it to 1WL, and these blogs will hardly every amount to anything so the links from them are probably not going to benefit much.

1WL has some blogs of their own, but the majority will be members' blogs.

Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe Jonathan Leger wants to chime in and clarify how 1WL benefits its members.

Tom

[jonathanleger]

1WayLinks does, in fact, have its users add their own blogs into the network. The reason this is done is 4-fold:

1) Geographically diverse, unique class C IP addresses.

Since individuals from all over the world are adding the blogs in from a large number of diverse web hosts, we get a much greater mix of geographically diverse class-C IP addresses than other services.

2) No footprints.

Individuals setup their own blogs in their own way. They have their own plugins, their own themes, etc. So each blog passes human inspection in a way that would be incredibly difficult to duplicate as a one-man (or even one-team) effort.

3) Large network of blogs.

Since each member submit their own blog, the network of blogs is continually growing. 1,000 users means at least 1,000 blogs in the network, etc. That means your links go to a greater variety of random locations than is possible than when every blog is owned by one person (or company).

4) Keeps cost down.

1WayLinks is purposefully providing a much lower cost solution than competitors such as LinkVana -- which is a whopping $147 a month to be a part of. Having users contribute their blogs makes this posible.

It's working like a champ.

The success forum is loaded with success stories already -- and we've barely passed the one-month mark. The results speak for themselves: 1WayLinks is incredibly effective, while remaining incredibly cost-effective. Even when we're out of beta we'll be one third the price of the competition like LinkVana.

[Austin Delaney]

I'm finding the 1waylinks network pretty good. Can't comment too much on Linkvana as am not a member.

As Jon says there's no footprints in 1waylinks but it is vulnerable if the big G (oogle) decided to check it out.

But only in the same way as linkvana who apparently don't give out the URLs of posts containing ur one way links.

I'm sure Google could afford to buy an account, post an obscure keyword link to the network and then just use the inanchor operator to find the page it's hosted on.

from there they could probably find most of the other URLs in the network by using inanchor on other anchor texts. If they wanted to that is.

I'm confident that 1waylink blogs will gain PR - since IM is our trade it means we have to know a little about SEO and understand the importance of doing some link building for our own blogs too.

At the price it's a bargain esp. when linking strategies are employed properly. And if the network is compromised then it's not too huge of an investment to lose.

Austin.

[anwar001]

Is it still not similar to gaming the system?

[anwar001]

What I would like to know is that once we decide to cancel membership from either 1waylinks.net or articlemarketingautomation.com, will our previous links stay intact of whatever articles and posts we have submitted all the months we were paying members?

According to my opinion, the articles and links should stay. Anyone has any idea on this. I hope Jon answers my question as it is his service.

[adamv]

Originally Posted by anwar001

What I would like to know is that once we decide to cancel membership from either 1waylinks.net or articlemarketingautomation.com, will our previous links stay intact of whatever articles and posts we have submitted all the months we were paying members?

According to my opinion, the articles and links should stay. Anyone has any idea on this. I hope Jon answers my question as it is his service.

In the 1waylinks program, if you cancel your membership your links will remain intact as long as the blog you submitted for others to link from remains live.

[adamv]

Originally Posted by webdesigner4

Google will punish sites using these linking systems, its only a matter of time.

These systems allow you to post to blogs and get backlinks for seo purposes. I don't see much difference in using linkvana or 1waylinks versus submitting articles to directories. Part of the reason for article directories is to build backlinks. Google has not punished sites that get links from EZA.

[magentawave]

Originally Posted by austind72

But only in the same way as linkvana who apparently don't give out the URLs of posts containing ur one way links.

Austin.

Actually, if you use Linkvana for WP sites then you can see the one way back links in your dashboard.

Steve

[Tim Dixon]

Good discussion on these 2 popular services. I don't personally use either but I am interested in possibly using one or both in the future.

Nice to see Jonathan posting on here as well.

Tim

[magentawave]

Originally Posted by Tim Dixon

Good discussion on these 2 popular services. I don't personally use either but I am interested in possibly using one or both in the future.

Tim

In that case, you might want to do a search on this forum for 'nextgen links' because it looks very interesting. I just joined it.

Steve

[Arine Mark]

I use linkvana. Doesn't help much.
Combined with others technique, it works just about fine for me.
Especially for low competition keywords.

[Daniel McGonagle]

I've used LinkVana and 1WL and Next GenLinks.

With 1WL you have the ability to get lots of links in a short period of time.

With LV there are less links needed because they're coming from sites with decent PageRank and linkjuice and linking to your site from "relevant categories".

There's differnet types of links and different styles of linking...

1WL is cheaper, try it and see if it gets you to where you want to go.

If 250 links all at once doesn't help your site's rankings, trying LV or just use 1WL to get LESS links/month but to more sites.

Most people know that a lot of links accrued in a short period of time doesn't necessarily mean high rankings right away.

Some links won't get credited by the SEs if too many are obtained at once.

SEO is a patient person's game...if your SEO competition is non-existent or poor, then you could achieve high rankings with just a few LV or 1WL links.

One tactic that has worked for me in the past is to write a KW-rich EZA article which links back to one of your sites.

Then link to the EZA articles using LV or 1WL or even your network of blogs....

This props up the EZA article in SERPS, and a high-ranking pag ein SERPS (the EZA article) linking back to one of your sites will boost its ranking also...

Eventually, if this tactic is done right, you'll see your EZA and your sit eurl on page 1...

Here's proof this method works:

Top 2 spots are mine using this method, with NO LV or 1WL link spointing to them right now...

webprosperity review - Google Search

Point being, think out of the box for a bit here, be patient, and test things....

You also need a variety of links, not just blog post links.

Social bookmarking, Diggs, Stumbles, Mixx, RSS feed submissions etc...

[Daniel McGonagle]

Here's another example to ponder about getting lots of links at once...

If you edited your WF member profile to add in another link to one of your sites, that might add that link to the end of each and every forum post you've ever made here on WF....thereby adding perhaps hundreds of new links to your site almost instantly (if you post a lot here)...

The SEs aren't going to instantly recognize and credit you with all these backlinks

[magentawave]

Daniel, you said...

"With LV there are less links needed because they're coming from sites with decent PageRank and linkjuice and linking to your site from "relevant categories".

Hmmm, I'm not too sure about that "sites with decent pagerank" and "relevant categories" thing you said about Linkvana. I mean, I know that is what the Linkvana people say, but I can see all my Linkvana back links in my WP dashboard and they are ALL from junk spammy blogs of no visitor value with PR0 pages that have NOTHING at all to do with the subject of my sites. Time will tell (at $147 per month!) how well Linkvana works for my sites, and IF it does work, well that just gives heaps of credence to the power of the one way back link. Geez, I figure if Linkvana's junk links can boost my site, then just think how much juice you would get from a one way back link from a page that has high PR?

"Some links won't get credited by the SEs if too many are obtained at once."

Yes, and too many links at once may get your site sandboxed by Google like what happened to me about three years ago. In my case, it was almost two years before Google stopped spanking my site.

I just joined NextGen Links yesterday. Its early because they are new, but what do you think about them? I'm hopeful since the monthly cost is a fraction of what Linkvana is costing me.

Steve

[Daniel McGonagle]

NextGenLinks seems OK. Not sure how many unlimited links I'll be getting when using just the wordpress sidebar thing.

TO be fair, I am testing too many link building services on too many seperated sites to tell for sure which one is best, but they all do have some sort of effect..

To date, LV has provided the best results.

Sometimes I think NeuroLinker and 3WayLinks are good for getting a lot of sites started at once, then once they become indexed, and rankings rise, there will be those splogs auto-linking and pulling your posts from their WP-OMATIC RSS aggregators, and this is true automted link building, but not really the most desirable link building strategy.

Regarding LV and 1WL and getting sandboxed, yep you can get sandboxed if you build links too fast, or more accurately, you could get sandboxed if you're seen as getting too many links in a short period of time.

But you don't get credited for links if they all come on suddenly, like from 1WL junk donor blogs. With 1WL service, you need to offer up a donor blog to host all the backlinks you'll be providing others. Leger recommends putting all these backlink generating posts into a category called miscellaneous, especially if you're using a quality site as your donor blog also.

Best thing to do is register a domain name and make your donor blog a hands-off thing you don't try to use as a selling site. This is what I do. I registered a domain name, submitted it as my donor blog, and left things alone...

If people were smart, they'd use a throwaway site as their donor blog, but this means that you're getting backlinks most likely from crappy sites with irrelevant content, but backlinks nonetheless.

But how powerful are those backlinks if the donor blogs don't even have good ping lists on them?

Which is why LV has been the best solution thus far for me, since the sites linking to me have achieved PageRank of some kind and Linkjuice, too, unlike the 1WL donor blogs which are linking out 3 times per page o rpost per article submitted to them.

I haven't been sandboxed with the few sites I got 1WL links from/for/to...

So, it's a weird thing...

With LV I DID see the sites linking to me in the Google blog Search gadget thing there, and when I went to the ROOT, main URL of site they were all at least PR 2-4, so no issues there.

Dave at LV never said the blogs linking to you were beautiful readable sites, but he does say they all have "linkjuice" and they leave your blurb post there for a day so it gets spidered, ie. notice by the SEs.

One lesson I've learned from all this is that it's still really only a guessing game, SEO is... you can do a lot of the right things and still not achieve rankings, or you can throw up a site with one page, forget about it and then see good results without doing a lot of work for it.

I mess aorund a lot with SEO and do some really stupid stuff, plus also do some stuff everyone says not to do and it works out fine most of the time.

I wrote an article you might like to read, it doesn't have much to do with link building services and which ones are best, but it does tell you what really works for SEO, as seen by watching on the sidelines during a product launch when everyone is slamming up sites and doing hubs, lenses, EZAs etc....

How to Learn What Really Works For Search Engine Optimization

The main lesson I learned from all of this is that top rankings don't mean squat unless your site content is designed to sell well.

Learning traffic generation is good to know, learning how to convert traffic is even more important.

So many people focus on page 1 of google, but OWNING page one for "money terms"is more important,and sometimes even easier than going after terms like Make Money Online...

With LV you aren't getting one way links from highPR pages, just from a high PR site, big difference there. And the sites linking toyou from the LV network ARE categorizedlike business health, hobbies, tools etc... and that'sprobably as best you can hope for in regard tohaving your post put into a relevant area of the site.

Look at DMOZ, a lot of the SEOs say you should submit your site there, but your site goes into the same type of main general category there as LV's blogs put your posts.

I hope Dave K. from LV doesn't mindme sharing an excerp tof our conversation we had on phone, but he did say that theSEs know how "aged" your domain is,and also the average rate of your backlink accrual/creditting...

So, a new site 2 weeks old with zero links is going tohave a otugh time outranking the 5-year- old site with a PR6 and 5k backlinks accredited toitby Yahoo's Site Explorer.

Trying to close the gap on that SEO competitior of yours by getting 750 backlinks a month may get you sandboxed in a hurry.

I'm by no means an expert on SEO, and don't claim to be,but there's so much conflicting evidence and opinions out there that I just do what I always do when I want to take action, but am worried about the best path.

Just DO It...

Your experiences with testing SEO and link building services and what-not will be the only SEO guide you need to listen to.

Regarding that article I wrote

How to Learn What Really Works For Search Engine Optimization

I am still watching this launch carefully as I am involved in it and I'm seeing a lot of interesting things, but I am cataloguing some important factoids... like which sites remain atop the SERPS for 2 weeks then disappear forever, what sites will slowly creep up in the SERP sand stay there long after the launch, and also...

noticing that there are some black-hat SEO types out there dominating the SERPS by using some practices unknown to me to rank well forthe next few weeks.

It's absolutely fascinating to watch, in my opinion and many valuable SEO lessons can be learned from watching a massive product launch lik ethat.

[freetraff]

Originally Posted by adamv

These systems allow you to post to blogs and get backlinks for seo purposes. I don't see much difference in using linkvana or 1waylinks versus submitting articles to directories. Part of the reason for article directories is to build backlinks. Google has not punished sites that get links from EZA.

Very clear and concise understanding of it.

The only difference is that blogs who republish your content do not touch your backlinks. And sites that steal content from article directories delete your backlinks.

[ebizza]

If you have the money, go for Linkvana.

However, 1Waylinks is still highly effective for its cost.

[australianrealestate]

Great posts and great thread. Just a quick thought on admav's comment above about the blogs being no different than article submissions. I don't agree ( and I'm not a user of either service ) I would imagine that the vast range of blog ip's from all over the world would make the service useful. Throw in Googles current obsession with Wordpress and I think such services may be worthwhile.

And yes it's nice to see luminaries such as Jonathon Leger in here. It suggests we are hanging in the right spot for good info.

[adamv]

Originally Posted by freetraff

Very clear and concise understanding of it.

The only difference is that blogs who republish your content do not touch your backlinks. And sites that steal content from article directories delete your backlinks.

I use 1waylinks, I wasn't suggesting that people should just post to article directories. I was responding to someone that thought Google would punish the sites that get links from programs like 1waylinks, linkvana, neurolinker, 3-waylinks, etc.

If Google doesn't "punish" sites that get backlinks from article directories, I don't expect them to punish sites that get backlinks from other blogs. That's what I meant with my initial response.

In regards to sites deleting backlinks after scraping article directories for content, I've found that a lot of the parked domains that my articles appear on will disable my ancher text links but if my article originally posted on EZA has the entire url in the resource box ie. http:// www . yourdomain . com then the link on the scraper sites is clickable. In my articles now I usually put one link with keyword ancher text and one link that is a full URL.

[magentawave]

Daniel said...

"NextGenLinks seems OK. Not sure how many unlimited links I'll be getting when using just the wordpress sidebar thing."

Can you explain that a little more please?

I just read your article where you mentioned Knol. Is Knol Knol: a unit of knowledge owned by Google?

I started using Linkvana about 5 weeks ago and am using it for 6 sites so far. PR2 just popped on two of the sites in the last week and I'm starting to see commissions so it shouldn't be too long before the commissions will pay for Linkvana and then some...and hopefully a lot more then somes! I outsource my 100 word articles for 40 to 50 cents a piece.

Thanks
Steve

[freetraff]

Originally Posted by adamv

I use 1waylinks, I wasn't suggesting that people should just post to article directories. I was responding to someone that thought Google would punish the sites that get links from programs like 1waylinks, linkvana, neurolinker, 3-waylinks, etc.

If Google doesn't "punish" sites that get backlinks from article directories, I don't expect them to punish sites that get backlinks from other blogs. That's what I meant with my initial response.

In regards to sites deleting backlinks after scraping article directories for content, I've found that a lot of the parked domains that my articles appear on will disable my ancher text links but if my article originally posted on EZA has the entire url in the resource box ie. http:// www . yourdomain . com then the link on the scraper sites is clickable. In my articles now I usually put one link with keyword ancher text and one link that is a full URL.

I understand what you say, just wanted to highlight the advantage of blog posting for growing backlinks compared for article marketing for growing backlinks.

It will take time before people understand that submitting your content for republishing on niche blogs is just a new level of article marketing.

People typically think in terms of 'officially accepted and approved' notions. Article marketing for them is good (and it is good). But not all people are ready to open the eyes and understand what writing an article and submitting it to the network of relevant blogs (for republishing) is actually nothing but an article marketing.

The only difference from traditional article marketing is that you have 'closer connection' to the blog owners who republish your info and can be sure they do not touch your backlinks.

Bottom line: anyone who says that republishing content on niche blogs with different IPs, (blogs belonging to different people, some of the blogs for years in the Internet) is a link farm should tell the same about article marketing.

[bshearer]

Originally Posted by freetraff

It will take time before people understand that submitting your content for republishing on niche blogs is just a new level of article marketing.

I agree big time!!!

[adamv]

@Freetraff

I agree. There is definitely a lot of value in posting your content on blogs with "in context" backlinks rather than only posting them to article directories. I think people should get as much mileage out of their content as possible. Submit your articles to EZA, make a Squidoo lens, put it on your own blog, make a video, make a podcast etc.

For people that think there is something BlueFart about using these services:

I would completely disagree with that. What is wrong or unethical about services that help automate some of the linking process? I don't see anything wrong with these services at all.

The people that submit content get a backlink and the people that own the blogs get automated content. This saves everyone some time and I'm not worried about Google punishing these sites. If the big G decides they don't like something and my sites suffer I will look for alternate methods to get rankings but there is certainly nothing black hat about using linkvana or 1waylinks IMO.

[freetraff]

My vision is that Google will never fight backlink strategies that force people to create content (for building backlinks).

Unlike link farms where you get backlinks just because you are in, here you need to create content.

No content - no backlinks.

I assume this is exactly what Google wants = > people who are creating more content in all niches. Because the more content Google has to offer to its surfers, the more helpful Google becomes to its users, the more powerful it becomes as a search engine.

[bshearer]

Nicely put. Now that their position on duplicate content has been more defined this becomes more true.

[locke]

This is one of the most helpful threads I have had the honor of reading here at the warrior forum. It sounds like a few things have been established based on everyone's posts :

1.) Both 1WayLinks and LinkVana are respected but recognized as being different in regard to the quality of blogs and the price tag that each one is accompanied by.

2.) These services should not be used without a decent understanding of long tail keywords and the ability to find niche keyword terms that have high search / high adwords bids and low competition

3.) Everyone that has used either of these services recognizes their value.

At this point I am sold... I have been working like a dog trying to build up backlinks the "old fashioned way" via article directories, forum signatures, blog posts, author pages etc...

My new strategy involves signing up for a 1waylinks account and then purchasing the more expensive/premium Linkvana account after my revenue has increased enough to justify both services at the same time.

At some point down the road, the 1waylinks account will only be used for new blogs and the LinkVana account will be used to fight off the internet marketing vultures trying to take my 1st place spots for my most conveted niches.

I really appreciate everyone's contribution and I only have 1 question left :

Can someone please refer me to a quality article writing service where I can obtain 100 word mini posts with targeted seo terms for under 2 bucks/each? (thats what Linkvana charges...)

[ahefner33]

Originally Posted by locke

Can someone please refer me to a quality article writing service where I can obtain 100 word mini posts with targeted seo terms for under 2 bucks/each? (thats what Linkvana charges...)

I use MTurk with Amazon and find writers that will do it at that price. Post a HIT stating that you are looking for someone to do your specific tasks and get in touch via email. Mturk fee is higher than than paypals receiving fee, so I get most my work done outside the initial HIT post. Hope this helps.

ADam

[magentawave]

The good thing about using Linkvana's writers is that for $2.00 per article, they will not only write the snippets, but they will also submit them to your account. Having them do the submissions will save you a lot of time. However, if you go the cheap route (like I did), then you can put up a project at one of those free lance type sites and pay someone as little as fifty cents per 100 word article.

Steve

[Oling]

I have never use any of these link building stuffs because i was scared Big G will disable my account. But as far as I can read on this thread I am thinking of getting into one of these services where everybody has to write and original article and I do not see anything wrong or link farming in this case.

Thanks guys for a very informative thread.

Oling

[fifitesmartin]

Hi, new to the forum but been a full time affiliate for 9 years now and only just getting into blogs.

I've been looking at 1waylinks and ArticleMarketingAutomation, both these allow you to spin your article, so unique versions are posted. I've looked at the Linkvana site but there is no mention of being able to spin an article, so I'm assuming a duplicate version is posted to the blogs in the network, am I right in assuming this. This is a big deal for me.

[niceweb]

for LinkVana you have to post unique nonspun 200 words for each link you want. It only get posted once.

So if you want 20 links from linkvana you need 20 unique 200 words post.

[fifitesmartin]

I suppose one answer would be to sign up for the jetspinner (jetsubmitter) free trial, build an article and spin it, then download the spun versions to your pc. You could then have, say, 500 unique articles to copy and paste, (you get a zip file containing a txt file for each spun version). A lot of faffing about but better than doing them all manually. I say free trial of jetsubmitter because I'm still unsure of it's worth paying for yet.

[magentawave]

Hey do you guys have any suggestions for other ways I could use all these 100 word articles I've submitted to Linkvana?

Steve

[askloz]

Neither, both systems are flawed, results are not sustained indefinitely.

[magentawave]

Originally Posted by askloz

Neither, both systems are flawed, results are not sustained indefinitely.

Okay, so what is the best solution for getting one way back links?

Steve

[kkchoon]

BEST Solution - Mix different types of links!

1. Submit directory
2. Web 2.0 traffic and links
3. Bookmarks
4. Article directories
5. Blog Networks
6. Blog comment /forum
7. RSS directories

Mixes of different types of links and grow naturally will give you more sustainable result... just keep doing it even you don't see result in 2 months!

[roddaut]

I agree with the post above. Use many strategies. I can say that adding 1waylinks did help my sites ranking and sales. However, its one of several strategies I use.

Rodney

[Dellco]

Edit: Support issue resolved with Jon Leger.

[japanguy]

Long term, isn't it best to do it the hard way? By that I mean, quality content, quality backlinks?

[mrichards1984]

hey why not UAW?? the best part I like about them is that they spin the article before posting on each blog does LV has that option too? :-/

[locke]

I definitely agree with kkchoon in regards to mixing links as much as possible, i try to use social bookmarking in conjunction with blogroll exchanges in addition to various other methods which i will choose not to mention (i.e. trade secrets lol..). if someone wants to know more about 1wyl they can feel free to contact me with questions or read the following review I have written...

1WayLinks Review | Your Blog Is Money

I offer a starter pack and training material if people choose to sign up with my affiliate link

[kkchoon]

I personally prefer linkvana for its' high PR blogs.

Yes, some would argue linkvana blogs is not high PR, that is because some of the blogs are actually new, and they keep adding more!

But rest assure those blogs will grow to PR 4 or 5 in a year, your link value will go up as well! After you have joined for few months, they actually let you access to more high PR blogs, this might be their policy to protect both their client and themselves...

One thing I don't like about any kind of blog network, they tend to work slowly, and I mean too slow for me. A blog getting content too fast might get penalized, but not for us as the user. I don't think getting tons of links will get my site sandbox or anyway.

However, if my links is inconsistent, my site might be dancing around up and down. That's why I advice people to spread link building evenly, but don't worry about getting too much links.

If you have 1000 link resources, just spread it across 5 days or 10 days, your site should be staying without any problem!

[BenjaminGates]

I never knew these two sites. It is a good thing to have such link resources with just a single click action. I was relying on ezinearticles and articlesnatch which Google keeps on de-indexing or down ranking in the search results.

I will give them a try.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by BenjaminGates

I never knew these two sites. It is a good thing to have such link resources with just a single click action. I was relying on ezinearticles and articlesnatch which Google keeps on de-indexing or down ranking in the search results.

I will give them a try.

You should try Angela & Paul backlinks or my Nuclear Link Booster, High PR links tends to rank better.

Linkvana is powerful and very good for long term SEO effort, however, if you want to see result faster, get Angela backlinks - Higly recommended!

[magentawave]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

You should try Angela & Paul backlinks or my Nuclear Link Booster, High PR links tends to rank better.

Linkvana is powerful and very good for long term SEO effort, however, if you want to see result faster, get Angela backlinks - Higly recommended!

I was a subscriber to Angla's backlink service but never got around to using it because it seems so labor intensive. Do you outsource it?

Steve

[Raphael1]

I heard about Linkvana - probably good but also pricy (I also read some not so cool reviews on other forums) - SEO is a lot about automisation and outsourcing -> we outsource Angelas Link stuff to some of our indian guys (however we noticed that this method is not working that good anymore, cause there to many Id*ots that just spam these sites, so that the owners get pissed and turn the links no follow) - Link Juicer which does pretty much the same like Linkvana, BMD for Bookmarking (not to much so it is not to spammy)...

I also like the list from kkchoon - the key is to make it relevant / look natural and high power links

[magentawave]

Originally Posted by Raphael1

I heard about Linkvana - probably good but also pricy (I also read some not so cool reviews on other forums) - SEO is a lot about automisation and outsourcing -> we outsource Angelas Link stuff to some of our indian guys (however we noticed that this method is not working that good anymore, cause there to many Id*ots that just spam these sites, so that the owners get pissed and turn the links no follow) - Link Juicer which does pretty much the same like Linkvana, BMD for Bookmarking (not to much so it is not to spammy)...

I also like the list from kkchoon - the key is to make it relevant / look natural and high power links

I will check out Link Juicer, so thanks for mentioning it. Have you yourself used them? If so, is Link Juicer more or less work than Link Vana. I've been using NextGenLinks for a while now too.

Steve