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Old 07-02-2009, 07:36 AM   #1
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I see a lot of sites these days that add a lot of well searched keywords on their page in a section "Popular Search Engine Keywords For xxxxx". For an example please see the bottom of the page below

http://tophealthproductreports.com/Acnezine-Product-Report-A...

The above site is ranking well for a number of keywords. I think keyword stuffing means using the same keyword over and over again. This strategy worked a few years back and I believe google has methods to detect such sites and label them spammy.

Having said that, if you stuff LSI keywords (get them from "synonyms" section of adwords keyword tool), it is tough to detect because google wants us to use more LSI keywords.

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Old 07-02-2009, 02:26 PM   #2
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yes, I agree with you my friend. Latent Semantic Indexing is the best way to get rank your website on Google. And even Am also using on my websites.
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Old 07-02-2009, 03:32 PM   #3
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Interesting. I think I might have to put up a test and see for myself.

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Inspiring thread! I didn't see anything like what I was thinking so I just wrote a Wordpress plugin and widget to stuff keywords...err...enhance latent semantic indexing as described above. It's running now on jakesellers.com and it displays the 10 most recent searches sitewide (I put the widget under the adsense in the right sidebar) and works with the 1st tier engines. If you search for 'jake sellers internet' and pretty much anything in google, ask or yahoo you should see your search when you click through to the site. For example 'jake sellers' internet - Google Search

It can be customized to display top all-time searches sitewide or by post, the word can be wrapped in a URL for site search or whatever although WP's too interlinked by default already so that's probably of little value, and I'm working in a few other things, and it should work fine with any dynamic sidebar theme, that is to say, pretty much all of them.

Does this already exist somewhere and I couldn't find it? If not any Warriors interested in such a plugin?

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I am interested Jake. Plug-in should grab keywords from google tool.
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Keyword stuffing is considered to be an unethical search engine optimization (SEO) technique. Keyword stuffing occurs when a web page is loaded with keywords in the meta tags or in content. The repetition of words in meta tags may explain why many search engines no longer use these tags.
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repetition of keywords...that's keyword stuffing...almost the whole percentage of your content are your keywords...

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Jenie0109 is correct. Mixing LSI into content as well as backlinks is the best path. For example, I do a lot of Link Spinning where my text link changes. I will mix in 1-2 LSI phrases depending on the number of actual keyword phrases I am working with.
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Default Re: Keyword Stuffing ??

I agree that you can use synonyms for the keywords and G will not recognize it as keyword stuffing. But i dont think this will have much benefits for your website.

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I believe it does help. I have one website in particular that has a decent number of links but in no way would should it be competing with the sites that show up in the serps with it. It should be well below them. BUT I started sprinkling in some LSI phrases last year along with my continued normal keyword phrase links and I rose in the ranks.

Its probably a fluke but who really knows?
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Wow .. I just analyzed that website using this keyword density analyzer and found that this keyword "acnezine" has a keyword density of 4.81% Isn't that a LOT? Then "buy" "acne" etc have decent density.

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Old 07-04-2009, 09:12 AM   #12
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I think SEO is changing by the day by the minute so only way your are going rank well is keep experimenting with new things. I run three blogs just for experimenting new techniques. No one can give an clear answer o your question because no one apart from google knows what they do all the strategies and procedures you see today are developed purely on the basis of trail and error

I tried having longtail keywords and repeated my main keyword more than 10 times tagged along with some action word. You know my website jumped to the frontpage with 200 links .But another website which had similar keywords stuffed into it didnt do well it was not even in the first 100 for the keyword I targeted so I really confused as to why this is hapening I might break the code.But havent figured it out.

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NO.
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yes, I agree with you my friend. Latent Semantic Indexing is the best way to get rank your website on Google. And even Am also using on my websites.
LSI is dead. . . Google used Referential Integrity to rank results. Not to say that content is irrelevant but the in-site and off site links carry more "ranking power"

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What % is considered keyword stuffing? Say I mention a product brand name or keyword phrase 5 times in a 300 word article - too much??
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I am interested Jake. Plug-in should grab keywords from google tool.
Google doesn't appreciate gaming them like that. If I'm misrepresenting what people have searched for Google will bury the blog I'm testing with on manual review faster than you can say exactlywhathappenedtomyfirstmoneyblog.com

So far test results have been very positive. The main conclusion of the experiment that I've come to is that "SEO" as most people describe and practice it actually has nothing to do with optimization. All the keyword density, title tags and attributes, backlinks, etc. are attempts to convince Google you belong in the top 10 for whatever keywords you're trying to "optimize." That's an uphill battle in most (profitable) cases and turns SEO into a zero-sum game. The realization you don't have to play that game is liberating.

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Wow .. I just analyzed that website using this keyword density analyzer and found that this keyword "acnezine" has a keyword density of 4.81% Isn't that a LOT? Then "buy" "acne" etc have decent density.
2-4 % of keyword density is just ok...

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If you want to test this use a well established site that you have and don't care much about ( ie it's not making money) and at the end of an article post 100 related keywords from your niche with low competition. You may find the results are very good for a few weeks until they tail off , if your site is very well trusted the rankings may even last.

This is not a long term strategy but I used to use a site where you could post purely keyword lists and it ranked like crazy until the owner disbaled submissions as adult webmasters found the site and abused it to an extreme.

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LSI gives the possibility to search engines (especially Google), to associate keywords between them, like a human brain would do. For example we might associate milk with the color white, a ferrari with the color red. That’s exactly what search egines are now doing and learning: the keyword Ferrari will be associated with sports car, speed, red, and expensive keywords, and this is key to take this in consideration when you create content, and also when you build your website.

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Yes, I think it depends on how this is done. This is similar in concept to adding keyword tags to your Wordpress blog. I can add a tag on one of my blog posts and that tag page ends up ranking extremely highly for that tag keyword.

On a selection of my dynamic sites I also have the home link anchor text randonly change from one of three main keyword phrases. This catapulted my sites in the search engines within 2 weeks for ALL three keyword phrases. This is because the link density on ALL pages within the site was spread across three different phrases and not just one.

I have given instructions how to do this on my blog and have also shown screenshots of results.

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that is not build for users, which is the number one rule
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