Blasting a WSO and response
Posted 10-02-2008 at 07:07 PM by Glenn Newsome
Warrior Duncan Carver recently posted a WSO about Complete Automation of Yahoo Answers Marketing.
The WSO was immediately blasted and moved to the classifieds section.
I felt the WSO was wrongly blasted.
Here was my response:
First off, let me say that I respect all opinions given
so far, even the ones I disagree with. I have in the
past done business with some of the posters here and
still will in the future when I need them.
Now, on to my thoughts. I just don't get the fuss and
anger towards Duncan. If you don't like what he has to
offer, then ignore it. I have not purchased Duncan's
product or service yet. I did skim the over the WSO.
Maybe my opinion is more of a buy it or leave it alone
attitude and I am not getting the full picture because I
have not studied the service.
That being said, I have purchase several products in the
WSO section that have been questionable at best. Yes, I
understand not all can be seen or followed but there
have been enough for them to be blasted also.
Let me state also that I have not used any of them as of
yet, but may at some point if I see a use for them.
One statement above says:"we don't sell porn here".
Well, sorry to inform you, but, yes we do.
How do I know this? I purchased it. It was in the form of starting
an adult site. This was not a how to, but, the actual
database etc. with videos etc.
Here is a quote from the WSO:
"Publish Your Very Own Fully Featured Adult Website And
Join In On A Multi-Billion Dollar Industry - Resale
Rights For This Week ONLY!"
Here is a quote from another WSO:
"you’ll get a chance to see how everyday marketing
strategies can yield high profits with the adult
industry."
Yet another from a different WSO:
"Like I mentioned above, using this tactic is extremely
black hat, and may even be illegal! I can't be held
responsible if anything bad happens to you, I just want
to let you know that! If you are Mr. Ethical, or don't
want to venture on to the dark side, just leave this
page now, I really don't want any Drama so I am telling
you guys right now that this code may be illegal and by
using it, you risk deletion of your affiliate account!"
Well, I have more, but here are a few other questionable type WSO's:
(I did not go into these files to read again--so some of
these may be perfectly legit ways to promote)
Add digg friends bot
Add myspace friends
traffic exchange trickster
article spinning
posting robots
and totally legit software(that could easily be used the wrong way)
example: social software
Anyway, I think you get the point. These are just a few
that I personally have. There were many that I saw but
passed on.
I probably would have gotten Duncan's service had it not
been for a couple of reasons. One is WSO funds are low
at the moment (I spend way too much on them), and
second, monthly services for me have to be very strong(I
am sure your service is great Duncan) or at least I have
to know that I will use them and right now I am not
ready to use it.
The only problem I have with this is that with all these
other WSO's getting through, why blast this one? In my
opinion, the blasting was enough to damage the WSO and
cause loss of income for Duncan.
Not only Duncan's WSO but others as well. Most everyone
knows blasting a WSO by someone who is known here can
put it in the trash can.
I will say that some WSO's do better when they get
blasted because folks get curious. They would have
quietly faded away otherwise.
I have seen many times statements like: "couldn't your
software be used for .......? Answer: well, yes but we
dont encourage that, etc.
I see the need to police the WSO's. But the one's I usually see blasted is someone offering an affiliate link etc. Yes those ought to be deleted and/or moved. There needs to be some kind of system or guidelines if we are going to blast em. I will blast away myself if I see someone not following the forum guidelines.
At one time--not very long ago--blasting emails was not a bad thing (well it was, but it wasnt illegal). Much money was made. Many things we do right now that are considered perfectly fine to us may one day also be illegal.
Consider this: You have a main website. What if the only way to use social sites is if someone mentions your site because it is good or they liked it. You are not allowed to build squidoo lenses, hub pages,myspace, etc.
If you ask me--all of these are not being used according to their intent at all. People are using them to promote their other websites, products,etc.
To me it is just what you decide is right or acceptable.
Do I think pointing 20 other such sites above to my site is ok. Well, for now it is. I am cool with it.
Maybe not so later on, if too many folks blast the method.
Ok, stepping off of my soap box now.
End of response
What are your thoughts on the WSO's and blasting?
Do you think this WSO crossed the line?
What about all the BlueFart methods listed in WSO's, are they to be blasted or are they ok?
To see Duncans WSO and all responses go here:
http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...marketing.html
The WSO was immediately blasted and moved to the classifieds section.
I felt the WSO was wrongly blasted.
Here was my response:
First off, let me say that I respect all opinions given
so far, even the ones I disagree with. I have in the
past done business with some of the posters here and
still will in the future when I need them.
Now, on to my thoughts. I just don't get the fuss and
anger towards Duncan. If you don't like what he has to
offer, then ignore it. I have not purchased Duncan's
product or service yet. I did skim the over the WSO.
Maybe my opinion is more of a buy it or leave it alone
attitude and I am not getting the full picture because I
have not studied the service.
That being said, I have purchase several products in the
WSO section that have been questionable at best. Yes, I
understand not all can be seen or followed but there
have been enough for them to be blasted also.
Let me state also that I have not used any of them as of
yet, but may at some point if I see a use for them.
One statement above says:"we don't sell porn here".
Well, sorry to inform you, but, yes we do.
How do I know this? I purchased it. It was in the form of starting
an adult site. This was not a how to, but, the actual
database etc. with videos etc.
Here is a quote from the WSO:
"Publish Your Very Own Fully Featured Adult Website And
Join In On A Multi-Billion Dollar Industry - Resale
Rights For This Week ONLY!"
Here is a quote from another WSO:
"you’ll get a chance to see how everyday marketing
strategies can yield high profits with the adult
industry."
Yet another from a different WSO:
"Like I mentioned above, using this tactic is extremely
black hat, and may even be illegal! I can't be held
responsible if anything bad happens to you, I just want
to let you know that! If you are Mr. Ethical, or don't
want to venture on to the dark side, just leave this
page now, I really don't want any Drama so I am telling
you guys right now that this code may be illegal and by
using it, you risk deletion of your affiliate account!"
Well, I have more, but here are a few other questionable type WSO's:
(I did not go into these files to read again--so some of
these may be perfectly legit ways to promote)
Add digg friends bot
Add myspace friends
traffic exchange trickster
article spinning
posting robots
and totally legit software(that could easily be used the wrong way)
example: social software
Anyway, I think you get the point. These are just a few
that I personally have. There were many that I saw but
passed on.
I probably would have gotten Duncan's service had it not
been for a couple of reasons. One is WSO funds are low
at the moment (I spend way too much on them), and
second, monthly services for me have to be very strong(I
am sure your service is great Duncan) or at least I have
to know that I will use them and right now I am not
ready to use it.
The only problem I have with this is that with all these
other WSO's getting through, why blast this one? In my
opinion, the blasting was enough to damage the WSO and
cause loss of income for Duncan.
Not only Duncan's WSO but others as well. Most everyone
knows blasting a WSO by someone who is known here can
put it in the trash can.
I will say that some WSO's do better when they get
blasted because folks get curious. They would have
quietly faded away otherwise.
I have seen many times statements like: "couldn't your
software be used for .......? Answer: well, yes but we
dont encourage that, etc.
I see the need to police the WSO's. But the one's I usually see blasted is someone offering an affiliate link etc. Yes those ought to be deleted and/or moved. There needs to be some kind of system or guidelines if we are going to blast em. I will blast away myself if I see someone not following the forum guidelines.
At one time--not very long ago--blasting emails was not a bad thing (well it was, but it wasnt illegal). Much money was made. Many things we do right now that are considered perfectly fine to us may one day also be illegal.
Consider this: You have a main website. What if the only way to use social sites is if someone mentions your site because it is good or they liked it. You are not allowed to build squidoo lenses, hub pages,myspace, etc.
If you ask me--all of these are not being used according to their intent at all. People are using them to promote their other websites, products,etc.
To me it is just what you decide is right or acceptable.
Do I think pointing 20 other such sites above to my site is ok. Well, for now it is. I am cool with it.
Maybe not so later on, if too many folks blast the method.
Ok, stepping off of my soap box now.
End of response
What are your thoughts on the WSO's and blasting?
Do you think this WSO crossed the line?
What about all the BlueFart methods listed in WSO's, are they to be blasted or are they ok?
To see Duncans WSO and all responses go here:
http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...marketing.html
Total Comments 2
Comments
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I don't understand how that WSO was any different that the brute force one that is still live? Doesn't that software do pretty much the same thing? How is it different? Both automate social marketing right?
Why is one trashed and another hailed?
Sure not starting trouble, but don't understand how it differs.Posted 10-13-2008 at 07:55 PM by Ron Killian
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Ron,
I would rather Pete and Duncan explain the differences as it is their software. Yes, both do automate social marketing, but in different ways.
With Brute Force SEO you are using various sites.
With Duncan's Yahoo Answers Marketing you are using only one site but providing basically both the question and answers.
To me is is just a matter of what you consider playing the system and what is fair play.
I say that technically even article marketing is playing the system also.
Article marketing is considered by many to be perfectly legit form of marketing because they don't look at it's original intent.
Don't get me wrong, I think article marketing is perfectly ok. But, I also think there are other methods (which some may consider grey or BlueFart) being used that are perfectly fine also.
There are areas that I would not tread but would not condemn others for giving it a go.Posted 10-14-2008 at 06:37 PM by Glenn Newsome










