Need Critique for my B2B Sales Page

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Hi all, thanks in advance for taking the time to look at my sales page.

The difficulty I am having is it's an relatively unknown service and many people find it hard to believe.

Workers Compensation Insurance Mistakes Costing Employers Thousands

Two questions:

What things should I look into changing as far as the copy goes?

And do you have any opinions on how to spruce up the page? Maybe more of a web 2.0 look or adding graphics that might help with conversions?

Thanks for your time, it's very appreciated.
#b2b #critique #page #sales
  • Profile picture of the author -Jericho-
    Originally Posted by Onslaught View Post

    For this type of ad you want to make sure your grammar and spelling are
    good. I noticed 'were' instead of 'we're' for instance.

    I think it needs a lot of work
    Found the we're that needed fixing, thanks.

    You mentioned it needs a lot of work, can you elaborate on that?

    I had a copywriter draft this up a few months back and I've been trying to tweak it because I always felt it could be better. Since I'm not a copywriter I'm struggling to figure out what should be fixed.
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      • Profile picture of the author -Jericho-
        I think I found him on DP's forum. He was on the cheaper side and I won't mention the name. I was on a budget and needed something up. I actually had another copywriter (not from here) do a quick critique on some changes.

        If anyone has any links that can help me to stylize it better with examples I would really appreciate it.


        Originally Posted by MarkAndrews IMCopywriting View Post

        Would you mind elaborating on your point in the last paragraph, since I'm not about to lamblast the work of a fellow copywriter here on this forum, if you used someone from here.

        Thanks.


        Mark
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  • Jericho,

    Every element on a sales page is either positive, negative or neutral--meaning each element either moves the prospect toward the sale, moves them away from the sale or has no impact at all on the sale.

    Having said that I think there are some visual problems with the page--the graphics are dark and distract from the overall message of the page. I would go with much less intrusive graphics--maybe even a "piece of paper" style without a header.

    Since the goal of this page is simply to generate a lead, it is probably much longer than it needs to be. I would create a compellingly titled report and make this a squeeze page or I would look at an "advertorial" style sales page, telling real stories of real business owners who have lost money because their insurance was paying claims to people who didn't deserve them.

    I would lose the links at the top of the page--why send them away from the page or distract them before they have given you their contact information?

    The headline colors are a problem. You will probably do better with a deep red for the headline--though this depends on the overall look of the site.

    I've got to run, but if you want more input on this PM me and I'll get more detailed.

    My two cents.
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    • Profile picture of the author -Jericho-
      Thanks for the tips. The issue with the top of the page is because I'm using wordpress and still trying to figure out how to change that particular page more.

      I'm a little confused about the headline color because it should be a deep red, at least it is when I look at it. I changed the blue headline to black though.

      I'll look into your other tips in more detail.

      Originally Posted by Kevin-VirtualProfitCenter View Post

      Jericho,

      Every element on a sales page is either positive, negative or neutral--meaning each element either moves the prospect toward the sale, moves them away from the sale or has no impact at all on the sale.

      Having said that I think there are some visual problems with the page--the graphics are dark and distract from the overall message of the page. I would go with much less intrusive graphics--maybe even a "piece of paper" style without a header.

      Since the goal of this page is simply to generate a lead, it is probably much longer than it needs to be. I would create a compellingly titled report and make this a squeeze page or I would look at an "advertorial" style sales page, telling real stories of real business owners who have lost money because their insurance was paying claims to people who didn't deserve them.

      I would lose the links at the top of the page--why send them away from the page or distract them before they have given you their contact information?

      The headline colors are a problem. You will probably do better with a deep red for the headline--though this depends on the overall look of the site.

      I've got to run, but if you want more input on this PM me and I'll get more detailed.

      My two cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Murdaugh
    I don't like it... It just sounds flat.

    Also, take the opt in form off of your contact page... If they're already there they probably want to contact you, having the opt in form just confuses them. (It looks like it's also required information... Just let them contact you, what's the point of going for an email at this point in the funnel?)

    On the same note, why not just stick the contact form on the main page and get rid of the additional action on the users side? That's a guaranteed way to increase conversions.

    I'd go with something like...

    Attention Business Owners:

    There's A 75% Chance That You're Overpaying Workman's Comp To The Tune Of $35,289 Per Year...

    75% Of Businesses We Talk To Overpay By Over $35,000... Luckily, You Can Find Out If You're Overpaying... AND If You're Entitled To A Refund, Absolutely FREE... Here's How...

    Could your company use an extra $300,000 this year?

    That's exactly what happened to Company xyz, after we discovered a critical oversight by their insurance company.

    The problem is that most businesses have no idea whether or not they're overpaying... There's no oversight, and all of that "extra" money goes right into the pockets of the insurance companies.

    And it's a BIG problem... 75% of our clients overpay! For a limited time, you can find out if you're overpaying... AND if you're eligible for a refund, absolutely FREE...

    Here's the deal... If you're one of the lucky few that isn't overpaying into workman's comp, you don't owe us a dime... So at the very least you can sleep easy at night knowing you're not flushing money down the drain.

    BUT, if you happen to be one of the 75% of businesses who DO overpay, we'll see to it that you get a refund... Every penny you've paid extra, and ONLY AFTER you get your refund do you have to pay our fee...

    We've created this win/win offer because quite frankly, we're sick of small businesses being taken advantage of by the huge insurance corporations... When 75% of businesses are being overcharged, that's a SERIOUS problem.

    But don't delay... This opportunity is only available (blah blah)....

    </copy>


    When I say I think the copy on your page sounds "flat", I'm saying there's no momentum... There's very little incentive to keep the reader engaged long enough to find out what the offer is all about.

    To your credit, it sounds like it really is a great offer for businesses, so if they do read the entire thing, they'll probably be interested in contacting you.

    You'll notice I do a lot of things "wrong"... I begin sentences with "and" and "but"... I use (dot,dot,dot) a lot...

    I use short sentences and single sentence paragraphs. I emphasize A LOT of words by capitalizing them...

    That's all designed for momentum... To make it as easy and engaging to read as possible.

    I think that's the main problem with the copy, it's not fun to read. You've got most of the bases covered otherwise.

    Lose the opt in form on the contact page, that's only going to confuse people.

    Good luck,

    -Scott
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    • Profile picture of the author -Jericho-
      Great tips, thanks so much.

      Unfortunately I have to go make dinner now but I will definitely go over this in detail.

      Originally Posted by Scott Murdaugh View Post

      I don't like it... It just sounds flat.

      Also, take the opt in form off of your contact page... If they're already there they probably want to contact you, having the opt in form just confuses them. (It looks like it's also required information... Just let them contact you, what's the point of going for an email at this point in the funnel?)

      On the same note, why not just stick the contact form on the main page and get rid of the additional action on the users side? That's a guaranteed way to increase conversions.

      I'd go with something like...

      Attention Business Owners:

      There's A 75% Chance That You're Overpaying Workman's Comp To The Tune Of $35,289 Per Year...

      75% Of Businesses We Talk To Overpay By Over $35,000... Luckily, You Can Find Out If You're Overpaying... AND If You're Entitled To A Refund, Absolutely FREE... Here's How...

      Could your company use an extra $300,000 this year?

      That's exactly what happened to Company xyz, after we discovered a critical oversight by their insurance company.

      The problem is that most businesses have no idea whether or not they're overpaying... There's no oversight, and all of that "extra" money goes right into the pockets of the insurance companies.

      And it's a BIG problem... 75% of our clients overpay! For a limited time, you can find out if you're overpaying... AND if you're eligible for a refund, absolutely FREE...

      Here's the deal... If you're one of the lucky few that isn't overpaying into workman's comp, you don't owe us a dime... So at the very least you can sleep easy at night knowing you're not flushing money down the drain.

      BUT, if you happen to be one of the 75% of businesses who DO overpay, we'll see to it that you get a refund... Every penny you've paid extra, and ONLY AFTER you get your refund do you have to pay our fee...

      We've created this win/win offer because quite frankly, we're sick of small businesses being taken advantage of by the huge insurance corporations... When 75% of businesses are being overcharged, that's a SERIOUS problem.

      But don't delay... This opportunity is only available (blah blah)....

      </copy>


      When I say I think the copy on your page sounds "flat", I'm saying there's no momentum... There's very little incentive to keep the reader engaged long enough to find out what the offer is all about.

      To your credit, it sounds like it really is a great offer for businesses, so if they do read the entire thing, they'll probably be interested in contacting you.

      You'll notice I do a lot of things "wrong"... I begin sentences with "and" and "but"... I use (dot,dot,dot) a lot...

      I use short sentences and single sentence paragraphs. I emphasize A LOT of words by capitalizing them...

      That's all designed for momentum... To make it as easy and engaging to read as possible.

      I think that's the main problem with the copy, it's not fun to read. You've got most of the bases covered otherwise.

      Lose the opt in form on the contact page, that's only going to confuse people.

      Good luck,

      -Scott
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Jeffels
    In my opinion Scott gave you some Killer advice.

    More then enough to get you going.

    -Bill Jeffels
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  • Profile picture of the author -Jericho-
    I just had to PM Scott to thank him for such an awesome critique and all the help he gave me.

    Thanks Scott
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    • Profile picture of the author -Jericho-
      Yeah trying to figure out how to make it not show up on that page. I'll take a look at that link. Thanks.

      Originally Posted by MarkAndrews IMCopywriting View Post

      Someone turned the light off, no sooner had I read the first couple of words, out went the lights, as if to say, "Hey, this copy ain't that important, what is important is that I grab your contact details."

      At which junction, I would just leave the site instantly.

      http://InstantSlideUp.com <----- Use that instead, it's far less obstrusive and will not disturb me from reading the rest of your sales copy.

      I don't need to instantly be presented with two conflicting calls to action, let me concentrate on one at a time.

      When you've fixed that let me know and I'll critique the rest, but not before.

      I can't personally stand it when one gets asked to provide a copywriting critique only to make the page completely unreadable, within the first 2 seconds, both for myself and more importantly - your genuine website visitors.

      Get that sorted first and I'll come back to it.

      Best regards.


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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Lam
    In your header image, I'd change your slogan to "Reversing Workers' Compensation Insurance Mistakes Since 1999", because it immediately implies that you're doing more than just finding the mistake.

    Btw, I thought it should be "workers'" with an apostrophe, but whatever.

    And change "phone:" to "Call:" - a stronger call-to-action.

    With such short copy, I'd make the page more narrow and easier to read so that the eyes are not going side to side as much. You want to drive the reader downward as much as possible to get them to the end and giving you their information.

    I.E. Your #wrap is currently 852px and #content is 780px. I'd change it to 800px and 750px, respectively.

    I'd remove this whole thing:

    Could your company use an extra $300,000 this year?

    That's exactly what happened to The Broe Group, after we discovered several critical oversights by their insurance company.
    It's already setting people up for skepticism. The headline imposed by Scott mentions a lot of big numbers, but it comes off as if it were a fact, not a claim. They're almost the same thing, but we all know facts has more impact than claims.

    Here's how I'd want the headline to be with some SLIGHT changes:

    There's A 75% Chance You're Overpaying Workers' Comp To The Tune of $35,289 Per Year...

    75% of Businesses We Talk To Overpay By At LEAST $35,000... Luckily, You Can Find Out If You're Overpaying... AND If You're Entitled To An Immediate Refund, Absolutely FREE... Here's How...
    After the quote, you should build on the fear about overpaying, provide facts and supporting information, then provide the solution to their problem.

    There's just TOO MUCH white space. There isn't enough emphasis where they should be. Nothing really keeps the visitor on the page and read.

    If you're able to, change your button to "Click Here To Get A Refund Now", because then they're not signing up for anything, they're requesting a refund, which is much easier to give up their information.

    Overall, you really need to get rid of the empty space and emphasize on your content. Your opening paragraphs need to be strong and easy to read. Short sentences with information that really captures their attention. Starting out with "The problem is that most businesses have no idea whether or not they're overpaying" after the testimonial is just not attention grabbing.

    Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author -Jericho-
      Thanks for the tips. I started throwing stuff together haphazardly after Scott's advice and I need to go back and rework it.

      Apparently Scott's tips were not free and he has instructed me to take it down, which is a shame because I came here for advice not to hire another copywriter. I'm happy to pay for services but I only through it up to work on more ideas and get more input. Hardly a final draft.

      Funny thing is I just PM'd Kevin about his copywriting services. I probably would've even looked into hiring Scott had he been upfront from the beginning.

      Now I'm paranoid about using any tips from people here.

      Well, I'm off on vacation. So Scott if you read this, that's why I haven't taken it down yet.

      Originally Posted by Kevin Lam View Post

      In your header image, I'd change your slogan to "Reversing Workers' Compensation Insurance Mistakes Since 1999", because it immediately implies that you're doing more than just finding the mistake.

      Btw, I thought it should be "workers'" with an apostrophe, but whatever.

      And change "phone:" to "Call:" - a stronger call-to-action.

      With such short copy, I'd make the page more narrow and easier to read so that the eyes are not going side to side as much. You want to drive the reader downward as much as possible to get them to the end and giving you their information.

      I.E. Your #wrap is currently 852px and #content is 780px. I'd change it to 800px and 750px, respectively.

      I'd remove this whole thing:



      It's already setting people up for skepticism. The headline imposed by Scott mentions a lot of big numbers, but it comes off as if it were a fact, not a claim. They're almost the same thing, but we all know facts has more impact than claims.

      Here's how I'd want the headline to be with some SLIGHT changes:



      After the quote, you should build on the fear about overpaying, provide facts and supporting information, then provide the solution to their problem.

      There's just TOO MUCH white space. There isn't enough emphasis where they should be. Nothing really keeps the visitor on the page and read.

      If you're able to, change your button to "Click Here To Get A Refund Now", because then they're not signing up for anything, they're requesting a refund, which is much easier to give up their information.

      Overall, you really need to get rid of the empty space and emphasize on your content. Your opening paragraphs need to be strong and easy to read. Short sentences with information that really captures their attention. Starting out with "The problem is that most businesses have no idea whether or not they're overpaying" after the testimonial is just not attention grabbing.

      Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Lam
    Well, I've sent you a response. Enjoy your vacation. You're like the 4th person I know of that's taking a vacation. I think I will soon myself! Where you headed?

    And don't be paranoid. I guess some copywriters are so good they don't want to share for free. I'll continue to help where I can. Take it easy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Murdaugh
    If you want to keep it up, keep it up.

    I wrote it to help you out.

    I guess some copywriters are so good they don't want to share for free.
    I take offense to that...

    Apparently Scott's tips were not free
    I wrote that to illustrate a point... I would have appreciated a heads up if you wanted to use it word for word. As a copywriter, I do take offense to someone using the work I legally own without permission... I did write it for your site though, and I didn't make it clear that I wasn't trying to provide a free rewrite.

    Not a big deal.

    -Scott
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Lam
    Scott, I'm sorry you take offense to that. It's just that no one knew there was a fine print for what you provided. Just like Darrin (Jericho), I thought we're just providing free advice here. This was the first I heard any of the copywriters here telling another member they need to pay for their "assumed" free advice and re-write.

    You're a very talented writer, I see that, but if you intend to charge, you really shouldn't be providing advice here. Just my opinion, that's all. Take care.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Lam
    I guess that's something for Darrin to answer, but he'll be on vacation. I'm sure he'll be back to clear things up. From what I understand though, Darrin sent me the PM before hearing from Scott that he should be paying for the headline. So it could of been something else not related to the headline.
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  • Profile picture of the author ayolov
    Such talent! It seem I missed the transformation process of the site, I saw it today and the copy is sooo good! You guys have given superb advice, thumbs up for all who contributed, it really is motivating, the flow is compelling and inviting, especially the first fold, it’s brilliant.

    “Could your company use an extra $300,000 this year?” could be bold as it is an alluring phrase.

    Once you click on the contact page it gets a little messy, to many fields, a pup-up and more fields, a free report to the right with another opt-in, this all is a bit too much if you ask me, I’d concentrate in one action per page, to show the form in a separate page looks interesting, I would like to know how well that works for you.

    Again, it’s a honor to see these minds at work, congratulations to all the copywriters, you are gifted individuals!
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Murdaugh
    Kevin,

    I wrote the entire lead, not just the headline... Everything in the post above.

    In fact, you "critiqued" some of the copy that I wrote.

    My only gripe is that I wrote that to illustrate how he can take his (formerly) flat copy and make it more exciting.

    "So if you write it like THIS... It will be easier to read and more engaging for your audience...."

    That was the point.

    Using the copy word for word without a heads up or anything wasn't the point. It's not a big deal.

    Regarding "trying to make him pay for a headline"... I was a little upset that he didn't ask for permission, it's a little more than JUST a headline...

    I guess that's something for Darrin to answer, but he'll be on vacation. I'm sure he'll be back to clear things up. From what I understand though, Darrin sent me the PM before hearing from Scott that he should be paying for the headline. So it could of been something else not related to the headline.
    Yeah, it's the entire lead, I don't care though.

    You're a very talented writer, I see that, but if you intend to charge, you really shouldn't be providing advice here. Just my opinion, that's all. Take care.
    Go read through some of my posts before you make a comment like that... I've never charged for advice on this forum.

    You're making it sound like I tried to extort the guy or something. I would have appreciated a heads up, that's all.

    Funny thing is I just PM'd Kevin about his copywriting services. I probably would've even looked into hiring Scott had he been upfront from the beginning.
    You and Kevin take what I wrote and run with it...

    The main problem here is that you're both missing the point of the entire post... Kevin, I don't even want to hear your comments because you didn't see the original copy.

    The POINT was to show you how to take flat copy, and essentially say the same thing in a different and more interesting way.

    Apparently Scott's tips were not free
    My tips were free... And I still see that they still have to click through to get to the contact form (an additional user action that is going to hurt conversions) and that there's still an opt in form on the contact page (something that confuses people and will hurt conversions).

    You're more than welcome to keep the copy up on your site. That wasn't my intention, but you can use it/adapt it to fit your needs.

    Good luck,

    -Scott
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Lam
      Originally Posted by Scott Murdaugh View Post

      Kevin,

      I wrote the entire lead, not just the headline... Everything in the post above.
      One word: "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh", lol. Didn't know that. Kinda just jumped in and gave my advice.


      Originally Posted by Scott Murdaugh View Post

      In fact, you "critiqued" some of the copy that I wrote.

      My only gripe is that I wrote that to illustrate how he can take his (formerly) flat copy and make it more exciting.

      "So if you write it like THIS... It will be easier to read and more engaging for your audience...."

      That was the point...
      So I guess I won't even know what it looked like before. But okay, gotcha. I was under the impression that it was JUST the headline - hence why I said what I said. Wasn't trying to insult, but I can see why you'd be frustrated with that. Hopefully, you won't give away too much next time.

      When I saw the quote in your post, I was thinking that's what you were quoting from his site because some people do that. But yeah, I wasn't aware of the whole situation, so my bad, Scott. Hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me. *hugs* LOL.

      Paul, yes, in this case, I agree. But Darrin is new to the forum and obviously new to copywriting. Let's cut him some slack and now he knows what to expect for future posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Murdaugh
    Thanks Paul.

    I know that Jericho wasn't trying to rip anyone off... Looking back I was just surprised to see the copy live on his site and others critiquing my work... I wrote it for him, I should have just kept my mouth shut.

    It's all good now guys. This can get personal with the very opinionated
    parties involved.
    I agree, no harm no foul, let's not turn this into a big deal for no reason. I'm fine with you using the copy, and Kevin, I don't take offense to any of your comments, I don't think you understood my side of the story.

    Peace,

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  • Profile picture of the author activetrader
    I think it's good overall. The only thing I would change is to not introduce the action button so early on... IMO it would be more convincing and better converting if you presented a longer pitch and then the button. Having the button near the top on your copy sort of cuts the expectations of wanting to know more before making an investment.
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  • Profile picture of the author LoveTheSun
    I tend to agree with active trader, the button is a bit to quick for people, I also think that you should highlight the most important parts like the
    Our service is free unless we recover money.

    This should be in bold red or something, make it stand out more, it is a great feature so make it stand out more.
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  • Profile picture of the author -Jericho-
    Thanks for all of your tips.

    I'm sorry if my intentions here were not clear. I came for some tips on improving my sales page and didn't realize that people would not give advice willingly on the forum without some forethought on their end. I don't intend to steal anything but hope to use advice from experts to better convey a point.

    I guess some copywriters are much more fickle than others. For me any advice I give on any forum, which has been a lot, I do so freely to help others. I understand what it costs to run a business and have people expect things for free. That is why I chose this forum where information and ideas are freely expressed among members. Had I wanted another copywriter (a third one no less) I would have said so upfront. But the bottom line is I have had bad ones in the past and wanted help from others to try and do it for myself.

    Thanks again everyone for there time and help.

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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Murdaugh
    Jericho,

    You're still missing the point. Use the copy I wrote, I don't care.

    The point was to help you realize WHY your letter sounded flat. I'm not "fickle" and I give free advice on this forum everyday.

    Free advice and free copy are two different things. I got upset because there was no heads up, and clients pay me a lot of money to write similar amounts of copy.

    I wasn't trying to get you to hire me (I'm booked solid) I was offering free advice.

    You're welcome.

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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Jeffels
      I'm going to bring another point of view into this.

      I did a critique for someone a while back. They PM'd me and asked if they could use the headline that I crafted for them. I said "Yes go ahead your more then welcome to use it".

      Then a few weeks ago again I gave someone a critique... I was more then happy to help.

      Recently I observed they used the subhead I crafted for them word for word. You know what? That's cool... I'm glad to help people... but I still had a feeling that it would have been nice if they had of shot a PM over and said "Hey Bill, would you mind if I..."

      I'm not going to speak for Scott, because he's more then capable... but what I think Scott was looking for was a PM... "Hey Scott, would you mind if I..."

      Best,

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